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Author Topic: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Game Over, Perfect Mafia Victory!)  (Read 294081 times)

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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1925 on: February 19, 2019, 05:23:05 am »

I could be tempted by EFHW, but for now I want to Vote: Debatepro
Feels like scum just wanting to burn time with pointless lists and suggesting bad wagons

This is the laziest post ever. "Bad wagon" because it's on you?
Not just that, it's based on entirely cheap pointless reads lists that we didn't need to waste time doing
And trying to waste more time with more lists is scummy
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1926 on: February 19, 2019, 06:53:35 am »

So of the people alive, my views are:

Town: me, shraeye, raerae, faust
Null: Uncle
Slightly scummy: EFHW, ss
Scummy: Debatepro, ari
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1927 on: February 19, 2019, 06:54:42 am »

I think Debatepro and ss could be a scum combo. Debatepro suggesting a wagon for no reason on me, and ss then calling me scummy for calling Debatepro out on it
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1928 on: February 19, 2019, 07:06:38 am »

I think Debatepro and ss could be a scum combo. Debatepro suggesting a wagon for no reason on me, and ss then calling me scummy for calling Debatepro out on it

I've been calling debatepro obv!town and my biggest townread since day 1 and now you think we're a team because I'm calling you out for a lazy read?

I think you're flat wrong on lists being anti town if that's something you actually believe.

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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1929 on: February 19, 2019, 07:09:58 am »

I could be tempted by EFHW, but for now I want to Vote: Debatepro
Feels like scum just wanting to burn time with pointless lists and suggesting bad wagons

It’s mental list, you know a thought experiment.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1930 on: February 19, 2019, 07:10:36 am »

I could be tempted by EFHW, but for now I want to Vote: Debatepro
Feels like scum just wanting to burn time with pointless lists and suggesting bad wagons

It’s mental list, you know a thought experiment.
Okay well then my list above would be the thought experiment done for me
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1931 on: February 19, 2019, 07:11:23 am »

I think Debatepro and ss could be a scum combo. Debatepro suggesting a wagon for no reason on me, and ss then calling me scummy for calling Debatepro out on it

I've been calling debatepro obv!town and my biggest townread since day 1 and now you think we're a team because I'm calling you out for a lazy read?

I think you're flat wrong on lists being anti town if that's something you actually believe.
How is Debatepro obv!town?
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1932 on: February 19, 2019, 07:45:21 am »

I'm not really feeling like digging out everything I've said about him. Everything he does is consistent with a relatively new town player, stating with tone and ending with specific posts.  I don't think I've seen anything he's done that seems more likely to come from scum.

As a new player, aren't there some advantages to pulling the trigger a bit earlier than expected if you are fairly certain? I mean...  doesn't it give their scum!buddies a chance to build an alternative narrative impacting future votes.

Let's be honest, it's MiX, why keep them around? If you are their scum!buddy you have read the writing on the wall and you want to keep the day going long enough to build some alternative narratives. And if we're wrong... I'm not sure its a huge loss.

This is nothing against MiX, I'll be the first one to pour one out for them if they are town and put on the dunce hat. I think some of the issues are a change in the speed of the game compared to what they are used to and the available time.

This is the post that I think is the most alignemnt indicative because scum is too afraid to support a mislynch that openly that early on (lynch was not set in stone at that point)

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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1933 on: February 19, 2019, 07:52:17 am »

I could be tempted by EFHW, but for now I want to Vote: Debatepro
Feels like scum just wanting to burn time with pointless lists and suggesting bad wagons

This is the laziest post ever. "Bad wagon" because it's on you?
Not just that, it's based on entirely cheap pointless reads lists that we didn't need to waste time doing
And trying to waste more time with more lists is scummy
Three posts in a row complaining about the lists after faust said the complaining was towny.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1934 on: February 19, 2019, 07:55:20 am »

If one is pro-town and they have a case to make, then my recommendation is you lay it out clearly with reasons and references. I seem to recall someone asking for that a lot in d1 and d2.
Look, dude, if I was sure who is scum here, I would lay out a case. I'm not. I think I have made my thought process on EFHW very transparent.
Except that you said you were trying to make my claim look good so I would be nk'd.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1935 on: February 19, 2019, 07:57:19 am »

Hmmm, no support for a Faust lynch.  But also only raerae saying no to it.

Just on my phone here, but was Uncle's awkward vote after I voted for Faust or before?
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1936 on: February 19, 2019, 08:00:45 am »

If one is pro-town and they have a case to make, then my recommendation is you lay it out clearly with reasons and references. I seem to recall someone asking for that a lot in d1 and d2.
Look, dude, if I was sure who is scum here, I would lay out a case. I'm not. I think I have made my thought process on EFHW very transparent.
Except that you said you were trying to make my claim look good so I would be nk'd.
I did... I am not sure how that is a point against what I said.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1937 on: February 19, 2019, 08:01:53 am »

Hmmm, no support for a Faust lynch.  But also only raerae saying no to it.
Not only raerae:

Town: me, shraeye, raerae, faust

(also me, but I suppose I don't count.)
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1938 on: February 19, 2019, 08:02:15 am »

I'm leaning town on faust.

PPE faust - that's not being transparent.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1939 on: February 19, 2019, 08:02:37 am »

Just on my phone here, but was Uncle's awkward vote after I voted for Faust or before?
After.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1940 on: February 19, 2019, 08:03:18 am »

I'm leaning town on faust.

PPE faust - that's not being transparent.
True, but I have since clarified that. I assure you that I have no further hidden agenda with my read on you.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1941 on: February 19, 2019, 08:03:34 am »

Ah, phones and bad memories.  Got it.

Also, DebatePro is reading more town all the time, I feel
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1942 on: February 19, 2019, 08:06:00 am »

Ah, phones and bad memories.  Got it.

Also, DebatePro is reading more town all the time, I feel
I don't see that. The main thing Debatepro has got going for him in my eyes is that he's unlikely to be ari's partner.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1943 on: February 19, 2019, 08:11:22 am »


I'm not saying ari is definitely town, but I think it's important to remember that EVERYBODY (save raerae) put him on their list.  I find that a bit suspicious, and he's off my #1 slot by a long shot.
Why does everyone voting for him take him off your list? It could mean easy mislynch or it could mean scum bussing and not wanting to be seen as supporting him.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1944 on: February 19, 2019, 08:13:11 am »

I'm up for a

vote: faust

lynch.

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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1945 on: February 19, 2019, 08:31:16 am »

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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1946 on: February 19, 2019, 08:32:44 am »

But why did it take you so long to vote for me?
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1947 on: February 19, 2019, 09:05:32 am »

because not lynching ari is stupid

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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1948 on: February 19, 2019, 09:08:25 am »

If one is pro-town and they have a case to make, then my recommendation is you lay it out clearly with reasons and references. I seem to recall someone asking for that a lot in d1 and d2.
Look, dude, if I was sure who is scum here, I would lay out a case. I'm not. I think I have made my thought process on EFHW very transparent.
I know I can be frustrating, but my post is a plea to potential town.faust to pretend like he is teaching a child how to ride a bike and spell it out more clearly.

Also if the ari shenanigans at the end of D1 and my vote on MiX taught me anything, it is to treat my scum reads as somewhere way less than 90% certain.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1949 on: February 19, 2019, 09:22:32 am »

because not lynching ari is stupid
And yet you have never voted for ari today.
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