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[Glooble]

This is the ball game, folks.

[Awaclus]

One of them is lying.

One of e/ash?

[Glooble]

One of them is lying.

One of e/ash?

Yeah. It's ridiculously unlikely they're both telling the truth.

[Awaclus]

One of them is lying.

One of e/ash?

Yeah. It's ridiculously unlikely they're both telling the truth.

Huh. I guess I have to pay a bit more attention to that then.

[WestCoastDidds]

Think with me Glooble...

If Ashersky is lying, its about being double hated?

[Glooble]

Think with me Glooble...

If Ashersky is lying, its about being double hated?

Yes.

[Awaclus]

How does Governor work with a plurality lynch?

[WestCoastDidds]

And if e is lying, its about ending the day?

[WestCoastDidds]

The wiki says it ends the day and no one gets lynched. We lynched Asher, but she didn't die.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Governor

[Glooble]

And if e is lying, its about ending the day?

That's what I'm saying, yes. Am I missing something obvious?

[Glooble]

The wiki says it ends the day and no one gets lynched. We lynched Asher, but she didn't die.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Governor

The plurality lynch isn't normal. It seems obvious to me that in a game with a plurality lynch that lynch would take effect regardless of whether the day ended by deadline or by governor.

[Awaclus]

I don't see why this doesn't work.

1) e targets ash with cop governor
2) ash is double hated
3) ash gets 5 votes and is lynched due to being double hated
4) e's governor saves ash
5) ash doesn't die

[jotheonah]

No, I think you're right. faust takes liberties with roles, but generally the names he gives them seem to match up with what that role name is traditionally understood to do. So if e is a Governor, we'd expect his power to, at a minimum, end the day. If it does other things too, like make someone unlynchable and cop them, that's well in the realm of believability.

But then we have ash saying, unequivocally, that he is double-hated as part of his role and that's why he died at five votes. So if we believe both of them, we have the ending for two reasons at the same time. Unless it was a perfect coincidence of e using his power during twilight after ash was lynched and no one knew it, we do have a contradiction.

[jotheonah]

I don't see why this doesn't work.

1) e targets ash with cop governor
2) ash is double hated
3) ash gets 5 votes and is lynched due to being double hated
4) e's governor saves ash
5) ash doesn't die

In that scenario we have a power called "Governor" that doesn't end the day.

[Glooble]

No, I think you're right. faust takes liberties with roles, but generally the names he gives them seem to match up with what that role name is traditionally understood to do. So if e is a Governor, we'd expect his power to, at a minimum, end the day. If it does other things too, like make someone unlynchable and cop them, that's well in the realm of believability.

But then we have ash saying, unequivocally, that he is double-hated as part of his role and that's why he died at five votes. So if we believe both of them, we have the ending for two reasons at the same time. Unless it was a perfect coincidence of e using his power during twilight after ash was lynched and no one knew it, we do have a contradiction.

Thank you! Someone gets it.

[Awaclus]

I don't see why this doesn't work.

1) e targets ash with cop governor
2) ash is double hated
3) ash gets 5 votes and is lynched due to being double hated
4) e's governor saves ash
5) ash doesn't die

In that scenario we have a power called "Governor" that doesn't end the day.

The day ended.

[jotheonah]

Though, looking at mafiascum, "A Governor is a role that can stop a lynch." Awaclus's version does stop a lynch. Actually the mafiascum definition kind of kills the theory.

[WestCoastDidds]

And if e is lying, its about ending the day?

That's what I'm saying, yes. Am I missing something obvious?

No, I'm just making sure I am following correctly

[jotheonah]

It doesn't say anything about ending the day. It says they PM the mod during Twilight. It also says it can work differently in games with a plurality lynch.

[Glooble]

I don't see why this doesn't work.

1) e targets ash with cop governor
2) ash is double hated
3) ash gets 5 votes and is lynched due to being double hated
4) e's governor saves ash
5) ash doesn't die

In that scenario we have a power called "Governor" that doesn't end the day.

The day ended.

ashersky has been lynched. She did not die. Day 1 ends now. Night 1 starts and lasts at least until January 21, 2019, 06:00:00 pm. Night actions are due within 48 hours.

Thread locked!

Ash was lynched, but she didn't die. So if your interpretation of governor is "stops the lynch" rather than "ends the day" then e's claim makes even less sense.

[jotheonah]

That's semantics. It stopped the lynch in every way that matters.

[jotheonah]

If you read the wiki, there's no inconsistency. I would quote it but I'm wary of quoting stuff.

[Glooble]

It doesn't say anything about ending the day. It says they PM the mod during Twilight. It also says it can work differently in games with a plurality lynch.

Oh damn. Well that kills my theory. I was basing my understanding of governor off of this:

Good morning, folks!

Hi Haddock....in your giant post you quoted me and said that in regard to plan discussions that I had completely missed the point. So, uhm, yeah....that is accurate. I’m newish to the game (this is my 5th game) and something’s that are obvious to others take me awhile to work out. I think I miss the point of posts quite a bit at first, but improve with time....or at least that is my hope.

I am still confused about how Asher got lynched with only 5 votes so far from the deadline. Is there a power that can end the day, and then it’s the plurality vote? Is that more likely than two people having an extra vote? And did Asher’s shot give her immunity?

There is a power called Governor that ends the day, though I’ve never seen it combined with a plurality lynch. Usually it just causes a no lynch. A power like that seems very very strong, basically dayvig and end the day but you can only target the leading wagon. I can maybe see it as a once per game.

[Glooble]

I didn't read the wiki, I just remembered joth saying "There's a power called governor that can end the day".

[Glooble]

unvote I guess. Damn I really thought we had them.