This is also a good point about ash having literally already been lynched going into Night 1. That actually, to me, makes e-ash scum team a lot more plausible.
Like, if they were a scum team coming out of that day 1 they would have to make a choice between writing off ash for dead or making a proactive gambit to stay alive (with LaLight as a backup if town called bullshit and lynched them together.) I know the last thing anyone wants right now is another "creative" joth theory, but here I go I guess.
If you look at the beginning of Day 2, it is literally the e and ash show for like 12 posts. It includes this post by e:
Also, I assume stuff happened last night (no NK, jotheonah is hated, and that's just the public information). Anyone want to share with the group or is this going to be another RMM where it is partial claims until D4 or so before we mass claim?
It takes on a different tone if you imagine it coming from scum!e who is about to go all in on a risky early cop claim. After all, a real cop who cops him could ruin the plan real fast, so it might be worth the risk to try and out, or at least PoE, some power roles.
The third person to show up is LaLight. By itself, a scum team spending a good chunk of D2 just interacting with each other seems ... weird. So that's a strike against. But they mostly talk about ash's shot and how likely it is to be town. So maybe they're trying to set the conversation up so e doesn't have to use the fake claim. i.e., it's a fallback.
So then Awaclus and DatSwan show up and honestly that's the first time the discussion turns toward re-lynching ashersky.
Also, thinking more about ashersky and what we know about his role: being forced to publicly shoot someone is just so bad for scum. Being forced to publicly shoot someone makes for an interesting position for town. I am fairly confident that Ash is town, not lynching today.
Why? this is an issue that will be brought up throughout the game and used against town the whole time. it doesn't matter if they are town or skum to a sense at this point.... best case scenario what- they have another shot to fire? they can hide that as skum, get lucky as town, or be lying all together. There is def value in lynching ash today, you dismissing is asinine.
Then Haddock and Glooble show up and change the subject to the hatedness (mine and ash's). e participates, ash doesn't.
Then I show up and turn the topic back to "let's lynch ash again". I also introduce the idea of ash being an SK. Then I vote for ash. Then ash votes for ash, which I think is notable.
I wish I was an SK here. MVP win last time out.
It's been a long time since I've played a game with joth, I think. What I don't remember is if shutdown-ignore everything-confirmation bias joth is scum!joth or town!joth.
As most would know, I'm always happy to get lynched just to say I told you so. My green flip just proves you wrong and proves me right.
vote: ash
In retrospect, this post seems scummy. Oh wait, it seemed scummy at the time.
That's when e comes in with the cop claim. When ash is at 2 votes, one of them his own. Even with hated that's not risk-of-a-lynch territory. If scum was holding it in reserve as a last resort option, I'd expect them to wait longer to deploy. So that's points against. Still, e was clearly worried ash would get lynched.
Calm down guys.
Ashersky is town
I like the idea of calming down! The caught us unawares quick lynch when we thought we actually had a whole extra day has made me hesitant to vote at all. But I want to vote for Joth.
E, you say that with authority....how do you know she’s town?
As a part of my role I have a 1-shot cop. I used it on ashersky. I wanted to let it play out a bit longer, but ashersky self-voting kind of made me claim earlier than I wanted, but I didn't want my investigation to be for nothing with a quick lynch
Then e votes for me. At this point I'm hated with a vote and case from Haddock already on me.
Alright, I'll stop my day 2 reread there. Here is my conclusion: The events of day 2 are consistent with a narrative wherein e, ash, and lalight are on a scum team, that scum team got spooked by ash's day 1 lynch, and e and ash, being experienced players who thought they could pull it off, hatched a plan to steer suspicion away from themselves with a proactive cop claim.
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