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[UmbrageOfSnow]

Interesting. I'm not actually sure how many scum there are even now.

Really?

Really. It wasn't in my PM or anything.

With the flips we've seen you think 2 or 4 scum are possible?

This feels disingenuous as hell to me from you. You aren't totally foreign to setup design.

[jotheonah]

Four seems bastard. I wouldn’t roll out two. Not with a dayvig and a cult leader who kills when he fails to recruit.

But you’re right, Three is most likely. But I would not use the word “sure” like you just did.

[Glooble]

Joth, when you first suggested UoS’s sureness that there were three scum as a Scumslip it seemed reasonable to me, but her explanation doesn’t seem scummy to me at all. Up until this point we haven’t had a conversation about how many scum there are, but really any answer other than three seems unlikely, and I don’t actually think taking that as a given is suspicious.

I think maybe you’re the one starting to get tunnel vision now.

[WestCoastDidds]

WCD: weren't you in LYLO with scum LL in Adventure Time? Do you remember if she avoided voting for her partners in that game?

Reread complete....so, yes, he voted for his scum partner Hydrad consistently on Day 2 up to and including his lynch. So, its not unlike LaLight to vote for bus his buddies. It was only a two person scum team, so once Hydrad was lynched LL was in charge of his own fate and then won the day (by lynching me at the dentist!  I am still scarred!)

[WestCoastDidds]

Joth, when you first suggested UoS’s sureness that there were three scum as a Scumslip it seemed reasonable to me, but her explanation doesn’t seem scummy to me at all. Up until this point we haven’t had a conversation about how many scum there are, but really any answer other than three seems unlikely, and I don’t actually think taking that as a given is suspicious.

I think maybe you’re the one starting to get tunnel vision now.

I don't disagree, Glooble. Although it has been useful to see UoS engage with us more fully.  Perhaps a better question is why is Awaclus voting for UoS?

[Awaclus]

Perhaps a better question is why is Awaclus voting for UoS?

Why not?

[Awaclus]

Eh I guess the post you're quoting and said you agree with answers that question. Vote: joth

[jotheonah]

Yes at some point I started doing it for the reactions— his and others. But votes on me are no bueno.

I do think Umbrage is scum though. The “slip” is just a piece of it. The other pieces are POE-related and his total lack of reads for the first three days of the game. I think the “Really, Joth”s feel like disingenuous appeal to emotion also.

[jotheonah]

Awaclus and Glooble, go reread Umbrage. It won’t take long. See if you come to the same conclusions as me.

[Awaclus]

Awaclus and Glooble, go reread Umbrage. It won’t take long. See if you come to the same conclusions as me.

Sure.

[Awaclus]

Done.

[jotheonah]

What is Awaclus like at LyLo? Do his posts finally start to exceed 10 words?

[jotheonah]

I’m at L2, btw. With (apparently) two scum in the game.

[Awaclus]

What is Awaclus like at LyLo? Do his posts finally start to exceed 10 words?

That depends on the situation, there are examples of both.

[WestCoastDidds]

Okay, I reread UoS, too.  I don't know that I am ready to say he is scummy, but Joth is correct that this is her very first vote EVER in this game since she subbed just now on Joth. So, that isn't a bad reason to vote for UoS.  But Snow's vote on Joth....It seems to OMGUS and has no explanation.  And then Awaclus follows with a Joth vote with no explanation.

I am reading Joth as towny, and I think this is a dangerous game if y'all are town and just want to see what flies because could be lynched out from under us because of the hated part. Can we please not get so close just yet?

[WestCoastDidds]

Awaclus will answer direct questions, even the irrelevant ones. 
So, I know that he like tarantulas, but doesn't own one and that makes me like him a little more.

[Awaclus]

Can we please not get so close just yet?

I super wish there was a better option than joth but there isn't.

[jotheonah]

Can we please not get so close just yet?

I super wish there was a better option than joth but there isn't.

There are several. But I super wish you'd explain what makes you think that. Also, let's definitely not think about ending the day before ashersky's even posted.

[Awaclus]

There are several. But I super wish you'd explain what makes you think that.

The fact that you're scummy.

Also, let's definitely not think about ending the day before ashersky's even posted.

It's just L-2, why does it sound like you're freaking over it so much?

[jotheonah]

I’m really not. I just think if I clearly state it then quickhammwring scum can’t say “I forgot about hated” or “I didn’t know” tomorrow.

Also there was something final-sounding about your “I wish there was a better option, but”.

If I’m so scummy, why do you wish there was a better option? Commit to your read, man.

[Awaclus]

If I’m so scummy, why do you wish there was a better option? Commit to your read, man.

Don't you wish I had a better option?

[ashersky]

Sorry for the late arrival.

I favor joth’s thinking re: UoS.

I’m starting to wonder why 2.7 isn’t dying, but Haddock was a sensible target, so maybe he just hasn’t been useful enough during the day to warrant taking out?

UoS, if I were going to shoot you, what would your last post be?

[2.71828.....]

I mean, PoE could make me vote UoS, but I am not a huge fan of the case that I see against them

[WestCoastDidds]

I agree, e. Although here is part of why I keep,stumbling with that....there isn’t much case against them because she hasn’t been engaging much until just now. So, not much material has been generated... and if the lack of material is the only real reason she not scum then maybe the lack of material is scummy. The lack of a vote D3 is notable.

I think Joth’s scumslip case about the certainty of the number of scum wasn’t the strongest, but it wasn’t all bad, but Snow’s resulting defensiveness and subsequent vote on Joth are not awesome, either.

So, that was a bunch of words that don’t result in any real conclusion...sorry. Ok, I think I end on this exchange making Joth more towny for looking for and pressing a scum read (albeit a weak one) and a slight scum lean on UoS for the reaction. I also find the Awaclus votes rather opportunistic.

[jotheonah]

If I’m so scummy, why do you wish there was a better option? Commit to your read, man.

Don't you wish I had a better option?

Nah, I know you have better options. Totally different.