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[UmbrageOfSnow]

Spectator Thread — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/EzQ4DkNKudg7Z

[MiX]

If Uncle saw the mail-mi slip, the Uncle is super-duper-extra MVP, well played.

[arishipshape]

I'm really looking forward to playing as town and actually scumhunting with you guys. This is quite fun. Well played to you all. Except those of you that voted for debatepro. I wasn't lying when I said he was the towniest town to ever town.

@Faust I gunned for you this game, and then some. Sorry if it seemed like an a-hole move, I felt it was the optimal strategy, and being a jerk and obfuscating, playing dumb, etc was all a part of my town confusing ruse. No hard feelings?

[silverspawn]

I'm really looking forward to playing as town and actually scumhunting with you guys. This is quite fun. Well played to you all. Except those of you that voted for debatepro. I wasn't lying when I said he was the towniest town to ever town.

I, too, was not lying about my town"read" on debatepro.

Though we both can't know for sure whether we would actually have those reads if we were town. It feels that way, but still, we can't know.

[MiX]

I'm really looking forward to playing as town and actually scumhunting with you guys. This is quite fun. Well played to you all. Except those of you that voted for debatepro. I wasn't lying when I said he was the towniest town to ever town.

@Faust I gunned for you this game, and then some. Sorry if it seemed like an a-hole move, I felt it was the optimal strategy, and being a jerk and obfuscating, playing dumb, etc was all a part of my town confusing ruse. No hard feelings?

You definitly squeezed that "ari is newb and doesn't know how to play" angle HARD, as in, D3 you should've died on the spot but you lived...

It's a good example of "this is soooo scummy and soooo obvious and soooo easy that it CAN'T be scummy!". I also can't believe I let you be on my wagon for so long, wow. I'll be crashing down on you so hard next time!

[Debatepro]

GG - SS, Eddie, Ari. MVP - I'll keep sheeping SS and vote for Eddie. 

GG - EFHW, Raerae, faust, shraeye, Lalight, datswan, MiX, mail-mi/dylan, and joseph.

Super interesting experience. If take my scum!radar and assign town values to the results, then I would look for scum beyond MiX, Mail-Mi, Joseph, Faust, and EFHW. Just do the opposite of what I think.

My QT debatepro 01-26-2019 09:11 AM ET - Note to self: Ariship, Mix, and SS seem scummy to noob!me... or at least 2 out of 3... I had a crisis of confidence when SS didn't take the bait, shifted to a town read on me D1, and MiX flipped town, so I started looking elsewhere.

[faust]

I do think the setup was somewhat town favored, based on how close it felt after three mislynches and killing neap with just one result and dodging all of EFHW's targets. But I don't think there's anything wrong with the MD in particular, just with the amount of power.

I agree. But it does make your win all the more rewarding, doesn't it?

[faust]

@Faust I gunned for you this game, and then some. Sorry if it seemed like an a-hole move, I felt it was the optimal strategy, and being a jerk and obfuscating, playing dumb, etc was all a part of my town confusing ruse. No hard feelings?

I don't particularly like plays that are deliberately walking that line, as I think scum does not need them. But it was your first game, and you were scum, I can see that you would think you needed to do it.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

David Hume - Neapolitan Enabler — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/fHfgy5G6REE
 https://i.imgur.com/H0U9VAY.png
Socrates - Mafia Goon — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/LJujL2CVB9uEK
 https://i.imgur.com/X3eKk2x.png
An Evil Demon - Mafia Goon — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/T4M7gMbVaa9
 https://i.imgur.com/2WzJCa1.jpg
Scum Fake Claims: Albert Camus, Epictetus

Jean Paul Sartre - Mason — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/weELN2N22PgNA
 https://i.imgur.com/eZEDmyB.png
Søren Kierkegaard - Mason — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/Wn4fG4jRV5HC
 https://i.imgur.com/9EwDlc0.png
Rudolf Carnap - Motion Detector — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/n8xM9ab4s3iBU
 https://i.imgur.com/YZquGlP.png
Immanuel Kant - Neapolitan  — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/qafhvYYpsaN7
 https://i.imgur.com/40GhcFQ.png
Simone de Beauvoir - VT — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/PZHYEWB8UTxv
 https://i.imgur.com/ElAK7Le.png
Ludwig Wittgenstein - VT — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/qBe8gUeKmcX
 https://i.imgur.com/HB1faYr.png
Karl Marx - VT — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/tHySZewVpu2M
 https://i.imgur.com/Iskdsvr.png
René Descartes - VT — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/rbN2YPA3gE6
 https://i.imgur.com/lR6g1X9.png
Plato - VT — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/Y6LxTmhPpqFKH
 https://i.imgur.com/OgnCiAw.png
Friedrich Nietzsche - VT — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/bdhQ6YkFDDU
 https://i.imgur.com/LuFrSdr.png
Spectator Thread — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/EzQ4DkNKudg7Z
Scum QT — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/GGTPmRXzTAB
Mason QT — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/CbbE9C4dM6fND
Mod QT — https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/j3La2PPqA78

May as well quote this here

• Debatepro Ludwig Wittgenstein, Vanilla Townie, Lynched Day 4
• faust Friedrich Nietzsche, Vanilla Townie, Endgamed
• mail-mi (formerly Dylan32) Immanuel Kant, Neapolitan, Killed Night 2
• silverspawn An Evil Demon, Mafia Goon, Survived
• Uncleeurope Socrates, Mafia Goon, Survived
• DatSwan Simone de Beauvoir, Vanilla Townie, Lynched Day 2
• MiX René Descartes, Vanilla Townie, Lynched Day 1
• LaLight Søren Kierkegaard, Mason, Killed Night 1
• Joseph2302 Plato, Vanilla Townie, Lynched Day 3
• arishipshape David Hume, Mafia Neapolitan Enabler
• shraeye Jean-Paul Sartre, Mason, Killed Night 3
• EFHW Rudolf Carnap, Town Motion Detector, Endgamed
• raerae Karl Marx, Vanilla Townie, Endgamed

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Uncleeurope is MVP.

[jotheonah]

Can I just say how aesthetically pleasing it is that this ended on page 100? Let's try not to post more than 14 more times...

Umbrage, it was super fun to co-mod with you and you did an excellent job with the setup. Congrats to Eddie and to the whole scum team.

[Awaclus]

Can I just say how aesthetically pleasing it is that this ended on page 100? Let's try not to post more than 14 more times...

But it ended on page 50.

[faust]

I am still angry at DatSwan for lying as town.

[jotheonah]

Can I just say how aesthetically pleasing it is that this ended on page 100? Let's try not to post more than 14 more times...

But it ended on page 50.

Also aesthetically pleasing!

[Joseph2302]

I'm really looking forward to playing as town and actually scumhunting with you guys. This is quite fun. Well played to you all. Except those of you that voted for debatepro. I wasn't lying when I said he was the towniest town to ever town.

@Faust I gunned for you this game, and then some. Sorry if it seemed like an a-hole move, I felt it was the optimal strategy, and being a jerk and obfuscating, playing dumb, etc was all a part of my town confusing ruse. No hard feelings?

Literally no idea how you survived. Obvious scum being bussed....

[Swowl]

Good game all (especially skum).
Thanks for the game Snow!

I had trouble getting into this one, and once I did I just felt like I could not pick up any traction.

Faust - Totally understand your frustration. I made a call; I either was gonna claim VT or I was gonna claim some PR. I found myself fairly certain of a potential at least skum base (guessed it to 100% in my QT the day I died ). You hammering threw a wrench in the thought process. I would of assumed most Town would of forced results later in the game to either let me hang myself, or at least gain info. In fairness - it was not a long planned out thing - and you did have a point that I made the role a little too convenient. If I were to do it again I would of just claimed a more vanilla type of cop.

At the time of the claim, I had two skum reads I was pretty set on [Ari, Uncle], and one that I was in that weird spot of either "strong Town!PR" or Skum [Silver].
Ari was on me.
Uncle and Silver were on Ari.

My idea was that since i was not strong on the reads after the wagons laid out in the end of day, but also I could not be the only person with that suspicion pool, that by claiming 2 things could happen:
1) Ari gets lynched - which I was really really really confident on being a skum flip. Even if not, info gathered, and better them than me.
2) Since all my skum reads were on Ari (also an SR)... if there was a jump I assumed it would be from skum attempting to prevent the obvious next option of Ari from happening.

- I did not think Town would snap hammer (thus my flip in read on you).

In the end, I am sorry if my play made things harder on Town... But my deciding factor on why to do it the way I did was that I thought the lynch on me would occur for sure vs second wagon if I claimed VT, whereas I thought there was a chance of either me not being lynched (and lynching skum) could happen if I fake claimed... combined with the other possibility of me still being lynched but the info being much more valuable.

That was all predicated on Town not quick hammering... so I guess shame on me for not thinking it through enough.


Any which way - great game to all. Was fun as always!

[Dylan32]

It is a month later, and 100 pages of game later, and I still don't have my car fixed...