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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #875 on: November 23, 2021, 07:43:36 pm »

m m No
n o No
o o No
p hd No
m op Yes
m oo No
o oo Yes
xx xx No
pa ss No
xo xo No
ot oo No
oo oo No

BRUTE STRENGTH Yes

oy oo No
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #876 on: November 24, 2021, 07:32:09 am »

mop
m op
mp o
mo p
o mp

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #877 on: November 24, 2021, 08:23:43 am »

mop No
m op Yes
mp o Yes
mo p Yes
o mp Yes
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #878 on: November 24, 2021, 09:33:00 am »

OII IO
I cooe
we see
om nom
my gym

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #879 on: November 24, 2021, 09:34:03 am »

sphi x

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #880 on: November 24, 2021, 10:06:00 am »

can I say jacuzzi undemanding by six?
can I say jacuzzi undemanding by six ?
I can say jacuzzi undemanding by six
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #881 on: November 24, 2021, 11:02:41 am »

OII IO Yes
I cooe No
we see Yes
om nom No
my gym No
sphi x Yes

can I say jacuzzi undemanding by six? Yes
can I say jacuzzi undemanding by six ? No
I can say jacuzzi undemanding by six Yes
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #882 on: November 24, 2021, 11:40:05 am »

OIIII IO
xoxoo IO
xxoxx IO
xxoxx xx

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #883 on: November 24, 2021, 12:16:40 pm »

OIIII IO Yes
xoxoo IO Yes
xxoxx IO Yes
xxoxx xx Yes
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #884 on: November 24, 2021, 12:22:49 pm »

o o o
o xo o
o xo xo

x o o
xo x o
xo xo x

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #885 on: November 24, 2021, 12:52:12 pm »

Call it     the woodpecker.
The woodpecker?
It needs more of a pause for effect :
...     the woodpecker.
...  the woodpecker?
The        woodpecker?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #886 on: November 24, 2021, 02:07:05 pm »

o o o No
o xo o Yes
o xo xo No

x o o No
xo x o No
xo xo x No

Call it     the woodpecker. Yes
The woodpecker? Yes
It needs more of a pause for effect : No
...     the woodpecker. No
...  the woodpecker? No
The        woodpecker? Yes
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #887 on: November 24, 2021, 02:18:55 pm »

can I say jacuzzi undemanding by six
but I say jacuzzi undemanding by six
but I was jacuzzi undemanding by six
but I was already undemanding by six
but I was already celebrating by six
but I was already celebrating my six
but I was already celebrating my win

It needs more of a pause for effect
It needs more of a pause for effect?
It needs more of a pause for effect ?
It needs more of a pause for effect :
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #888 on: November 24, 2021, 02:40:16 pm »

can I say jacuzzi undemanding by six Yes
but I say jacuzzi undemanding by six Yes
but I was jacuzzi undemanding by six No
but I was already undemanding by six Yes
but I was already celebrating by six Yes
but I was already celebrating my six Yes
but I was already celebrating my win Yes

It needs more of a pause for effect No
It needs more of a pause for effect? No
It needs more of a pause for effect ? Yes
It needs more of a pause for effect : Yes

This is definitely harder than it should be. No
Please don't put random symbols in places, I got excited. No
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #889 on: November 24, 2021, 02:44:22 pm »

This seems too complicated but maybe you have an equivalent simpler formulation?

Guess: [number of vowels is odd] AND [parity of words = parity of consonants]

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #890 on: November 24, 2021, 02:51:17 pm »

This seems too complicated but maybe you have an equivalent simpler formulation?

Guess: [number of vowels is odd] AND [parity of words = parity of consonants]

Correct!

My wording was [odd number of words must have an odd number of vowels] AND [even number of words must have an even number of consonants], but that is equivalent to what you wrote.

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #891 on: November 24, 2021, 03:12:16 pm »

My wording was [odd number of words must have an odd number of vowels] AND [even number of words must have an even number of consonants], but that is equivalent to what you wrote.

Now I'm confused -- doesn't an odd number of words also need to have an odd number of consonants? E.g., "notoo" was false

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #892 on: November 24, 2021, 03:14:24 pm »

My wording was [odd number of words must have an odd number of vowels] AND [even number of words must have an even number of consonants], but that is equivalent to what you wrote.

Now I'm confused -- doesn't an odd number of words also need to have an odd number of consonants? E.g., "notoo" was false

notoo was false because notoo is an odd number of words having an even number of consonants.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #893 on: November 24, 2021, 03:19:54 pm »

But isn't that allowed by your rule?

odd number of words must have odd number of vowels -- true
even number of words must have [...] vacuously true

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #894 on: November 24, 2021, 03:49:58 pm »

But isn't that allowed by your rule?

odd number of words must have odd number of vowels -- true
even number of words must have [...] vacuously true

I don't pick the even number: I just check all words and add up the number of words that satisfy it (that have an even number of consonants), and that number must be even.

I guess "the number of words that have an even number of consonants is even" is more correct.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #895 on: November 24, 2021, 04:17:18 pm »

Ah, I see. You mean

[the number of words that have [an odd number of vowels]] must be odd AND [the number of words that have [an even number of consonants]] must be even

 whereas I read it as

if the number of words in the question is even, then the question is true iff the number of vowels is odd; otherwise, the question is true iff the number of consonants is even

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #896 on: November 24, 2021, 04:18:19 pm »

Agree your reading is more natural

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #897 on: November 24, 2021, 04:19:32 pm »

Ok, so is there enough interest in continuing?

Or should we create another thread with slightly changed rules where

- you're only allowed to guess with dictionary words, but
- it's encouraged to create somewhat easier rules

This rule was pretty cool, but probably too hard to guess with dictionary words only

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #898 on: November 24, 2021, 04:28:22 pm »

Ok, so is there enough interest in continuing?

Or should we create another thread with slightly changed rules where

- you're only allowed to guess with dictionary words, but
- it's encouraged to create somewhat easier rules

This rule was pretty cool, but probably too hard to guess with dictionary words only

I definitely don't design rules with dictionary words in mind. I prefer this version of the game, but you can create your thread if you want.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #899 on: November 24, 2021, 04:32:33 pm »

Ok, so is there enough interest in continuing?

Or should we create another thread with slightly changed rules where

- you're only allowed to guess with dictionary words, but
- it's encouraged to create somewhat easier rules

This rule was pretty cool, but probably too hard to guess with dictionary words only

I'd play it.
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