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Zendo Questions 2
« on: December 17, 2018, 05:04:00 pm »

Welcome to Zendo Questions 2!

Would you like to play this game? Yes
Is it fun? Yes
Can you join any time? Yes
Can you guess the rule? Yes
Is your guess correct? No

Play on...

This post is mostly copied from mafiascum: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=23946

Those of you familiar with both Twenty Questions and Zendo already know the rules. For everyone else, let me break it down.
  • Each round, there is one Oracle and a flock of Petitioners.
  • At the beginning of the round, the Oracle invents a secret rule, completely mechanical, based on - and solely on - the exact wording of the questions asked. This rule will, given the exact wording of a question, tell the Oracle to reply either "Yes" or "No". You must be able to answer the same question the same way, regardless of the context of the question. Examples include:
    • Any question with an even number of words, reply "Yes"; otherwise, reply "No".
    • Any question beginning with a consonant, reply "Yes"; otherwise, reply "No".
  • Bear in mind that, first, any overly-complicated rule (e.g. "Any question whose SHA-1 hash ends with an even number, say 'No'; otherwise, say 'Yes'") will get you mocked and shunned; second, every rule is more complicated than it initially appears; and third, if you screw up three times, you must concede (and thereby become an object of pity and lose 1d6 points of respect).
  • During the round, any Petitioner (i.e. anyone other than the Oracle) may either ask questions, or attempt to guess the rule. Each question asked shall be answered in order by the Oracle, according to the rule. Guesses the Oracle shall deal with in one of exactly two ways:
    • By conceding, and revealing the rule that had been used.
    • By replying with a question whose answer is different under the actual rule than according to the guess.
    • For example: if the rule is "beginning with a consonant = yes" and someone guesses "beginning with a W = yes", the Oracle might say, "Had it the ability, would a woodchuck chuck wood?"
  • The Oracle shall include in each post answering questions and responding to guesses a list of all prior questions, answers, guesses, and responses.
  • If the Oracle takes longer than 72 hours to answer a question, the Oracle shall forfeit. If no Petitioners have submitted questions or guesses for 96 hours, then any Petitioner may ask the Oracle to reveal the rule and step down.
  • The Petitioner who first guesses correctly shall become the next Oracle. If there is no such petitioner (such as after an Oracle is forced to forfeit) [edit: or if said petitioner does not choose a rule within a reasonable timespan], the first poster to so choose may become the next Oracle.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2018, 05:04:36 pm »

The start of the current rule is ...there is no current rule!

Here is a list of rules used so far.
Note that I have modified some of the wordings in order to present them all in the same format: If <property> then "yes", otherwise "no". Let me know if you spot any mistakes I've made.
Also there have been a handful of aborted rules, never stated and not listed here.

Rules from previous thread:

The question contains a doubled character.

The question contains a comma.

The question contains a word that starts with "m".

The question contains a capital vowel.

The words in the question are arranged alphabetically.

The question contains all of the letters in "a rule".

The question has a prime number of characters.

Both first and last letters of the question are both consonants or both vowels.

The previous question shares any words with current question. (later ruled an invalid rule)

The average word length of the question is greater than 4 characters.

The third letter of the question is a vowel.

The last word of the question has at least one letter from each QWERTY keyboard row.

The question contains a capitalized T,H,E,O,R or Y.

The question has a one-syllable word, a two-syllable word, and a three-syllable word.

The question contains the letters in 'meme,' i.e., at least two m's and two e's.

The only 't's in the question are not at the start of words.

The question contains 4 or more characters that are not lowercase letters or spaces.

The question contains a letter in the range N-Z.

The question has two letters that are next to each other in the alphabet next to each other in the right order.

The questions does not contain any of the letters j,q,x or z.

The question has at least as many words with five or more letters than words with 4 or fewer letters.

The question contains a word with the same number of letters as the number of words in the question.

The question contains a 'y' or does not contain an 'n'.

The question contains an n-th word which has exactly n letters.

The question contains an anagram of a Dominion card.

The first letter of the alphabet occurring in the question occurs only once.

The question has at least 3 words all of the same length.

The first and last word of the question share any letters.

The third word of the question has an even number of letters.


Rules from this thread:

The last word of the question contains a letter that hasn't occurred before.

Every word of the question has an adjacent word which has a letter in common with it.

The number of letters in the question is congruent to 1 mod 3.

The question contains both an r and an s.

The number of words with an even number of characters is even.

Between the first and last lowercase letters there is nothing but lowercase letters and spaces.

The question contains the name of a Dominion card-shaped thing.

There are two consecutive words with the same number of characters.

The median number of letters per word is an integer.

Either the number of words or the number of letters is a square number.

More than half of the characters in the question form a single word.

There is an 'N' in the first three words of the question.

The question does not contain two words in alphabetical order.

The question contains two consecutive letters which are consecutive in the alphabet, in order.

The question contains the string "Elliptic Curve Cryptography".

The question contains at least one word which is made up of symbols of chemical elements.

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2018, 05:05:01 pm »

I have a rule
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2018, 05:09:06 pm »

Is it a rule?
When will you post the previous rules?
Can I guess the rule correctly?
Can I guess the rule incorrectly?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2018, 05:23:35 pm »

tag?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2018, 10:51:56 pm »

Does the set of all sets that do not contain themselves contain itself?
Does the barber who only shaves men who don’t shave themselves shave himself?
What if the barber is a woman?
What if the set is a woman?
Did the Butler do it?
How many cooks is too many cooks?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2018, 01:57:29 am »

Is it a rule? Yes
When will you post the previous rules? No
Can I guess the rule correctly? Yes
Can I guess the rule incorrectly? Yes

tag? Yes

Does the set of all sets that do not contain themselves contain itself? No
Does the barber who only shaves men who don’t shave themselves shave himself? Yes
What if the barber is a woman? Yes
What if the set is a woman? Yes
Did the Butler do it? No
How many cooks is too many cooks? No
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2018, 02:29:13 pm »

Does the barber of all shaves contain sets who don't shave contains himself themselves shaves?
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2018, 02:34:44 pm »

Does?
Your rule?
Have anything to?
Do with the number?
Of words in the question?
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2018, 02:48:44 pm »

Is it a rule? Yes
When will you post the previous rules? No
Can I guess the rule correctly? Yes
Can I guess the rule incorrectly? Yes

tag? Yes

Does the set of all sets that do not contain themselves contain itself? No
Does the barber who only shaves men who don’t shave themselves shave himself? Yes
What if the barber is a woman? Yes
What if the set is a woman? Yes
Did the Butler do it? No
How many cooks is too many cooks? No

Does the barber of all shaves contain sets who don't shave contains himself themselves shaves? No

Does? Yes
Your rule? Yes
Have anything to? Yes
Do with the number? Yes
Of words in the question? Yes
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2018, 03:19:49 pm »

contain contain?
shave shave?
set sets?
barber barber?
barber?
set?
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2018, 03:20:12 pm »

set set?
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2018, 04:58:46 pm »

Maybe?
I didn't?
Keep the pyramid?
Of word lengths going?
For long enough to determine?
The nature of your silly rule?
This sentence has seven words in it?
This sentence has eight words in it, right?
This sentence has nine words in it, doesn't it?
This sentence has ten words in it, does it not?
This sentence is chock full of words, sporting a dizzying eleven?
This sentence puts that last one to shame because it has twelve?
Those other two sentences have nothing on this final sentence, which has thirteen?
And boy, if you thought Mr. Thirteen was long, wait until you see this?
In case you lost count, we're up to a fourteen word sentence now, y'dig?
This is probably overkill, but I'm just kind of having fun with this absurd premise now?
Still I'll probably stop once I get to seventeen words because it seems like a good milestone?
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2018, 06:52:13 pm »

Jotheonah, do you realize that "Did the Butler do it?" has five word as well, so it can't only be about word count?
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2018, 06:59:58 pm »

What if the is a woman?
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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2018, 03:44:57 am »

Is it a rule? Yes
When will you post the previous rules? No
Can I guess the rule correctly? Yes
Can I guess the rule incorrectly? Yes

tag? Yes

Does the set of all sets that do not contain themselves contain itself? No
Does the barber who only shaves men who don’t shave themselves shave himself? Yes
What if the barber is a woman? Yes
What if the set is a woman? Yes
Did the Butler do it? No
How many cooks is too many cooks? No

Does the barber of all shaves contain sets who don't shave contains himself themselves shaves? No

Does? Yes
Your rule? Yes
Have anything to? Yes
Do with the number? Yes
Of words in the question? Yes

contain contain? No
shave shave? No
set sets? No
barber barber? No
barber? Yes
set? Yes

set set? No

Maybe? Yes
I didn't? Yes
Keep the pyramid? Yes
Of word lengths going? Yes
For long enough to determine? Yes
The nature of your silly rule? No
This sentence has seven words in it? No
This sentence has eight words in it, right? No
This sentence has nine words in it, doesn't it? No
This sentence has ten words in it, does it not? No
This sentence is chock full of words, sporting a dizzying eleven? Yes
This sentence puts that last one to shame because it has twelve? Yes
Those other two sentences have nothing on this final sentence, which has thirteen? No
And boy, if you thought Mr. Thirteen was long, wait until you see this? No
In case you lost count, we're up to a fourteen word sentence now, y'dig? Yes
This is probably overkill, but I'm just kind of having fun with this absurd premise now? No
Still I'll probably stop once I get to seventeen words because it seems like a good milestone? No

Jotheonah, do you realize that "Did the Butler do it?" has five word as well, so it can't only be about word count? No

What if the is a woman? Yes
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2018, 07:25:12 am »

Is rule?
What woman?
This it?
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2018, 07:57:27 am »

Is rule? Yes
What woman? Yes
This it? No
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2018, 01:44:38 pm »

contain?
shave?
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2018, 02:30:20 pm »

containcontain?
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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2018, 02:55:35 pm »

contain? yes
shave? yes

containcontain? yes
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2018, 02:57:06 pm »

parity?
parity parity?
parity parity parity?
parity parity parity parity?
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2018, 02:58:32 pm »

you should answer yes to this sentence?
but this one is one where no is the answer?
on the one hand, however, this sentence should be a yes?
But on the other hand, the sentence now should be now?
On the third hand, there's a yes?
But on the forth hand, there are only three hands, so this is a no?

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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2018, 03:02:58 pm »

parity? yes
parity parity? no
parity parity parity? no
parity parity parity parity? no

you should answer yes to this sentence? yes
but this one is one where no is the answer? yes
on the one hand, however, this sentence should be a yes? yes
But on the other hand, the sentence now should be now? no
On the third hand, there's a yes? yes
But on the forth hand, there are only three hands, so this is a no? no

<note, the list of all questions for the current rule was getting quite long - I'll post the full list again near the top of the next page>
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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2018, 03:06:37 pm »

interesting interesting?
interesting interesting very much so yes absolutely totally completely biong?
interesting interesting kind of?

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« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2018, 03:12:35 pm »

Did?
Did the?
Did the Butler?
Did the Butler do?
Did it?
Did the it?
Did the Butler it?
Did do it?
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« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2018, 03:12:45 pm »

Will?
All?
Of?
These?
Be?
Yes?

Will some?
of these?
be yes?
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« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2018, 03:16:30 pm »

test testing testingtest?

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« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2018, 03:18:10 pm »

barber barber b?
barber barber c?
barber barber d?
barber barber x?
barber barber y?
barber barber xy?
barber barber xyz?
barber barber xx?
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« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2018, 03:23:46 pm »

Is it a rule? Yes
When will you post the previous rules? No
Can I guess the rule correctly? Yes
Can I guess the rule incorrectly? Yes

tag? Yes

Does the set of all sets that do not contain themselves contain itself? No
Does the barber who only shaves men who don’t shave themselves shave himself? Yes
What if the barber is a woman? Yes
What if the set is a woman? Yes
Did the Butler do it? No
How many cooks is too many cooks? No

Does the barber of all shaves contain sets who don't shave contains himself themselves shaves? No

Does? Yes
Your rule? Yes
Have anything to? Yes
Do with the number? Yes
Of words in the question? Yes

contain contain? No
shave shave? No
set sets? No
barber barber? No
barber? Yes
set? Yes

set set? No

Maybe? Yes
I didn't? Yes
Keep the pyramid? Yes
Of word lengths going? Yes
For long enough to determine? Yes
The nature of your silly rule? No
This sentence has seven words in it? No
This sentence has eight words in it, right? No
This sentence has nine words in it, doesn't it? No
This sentence has ten words in it, does it not? No
This sentence is chock full of words, sporting a dizzying eleven? Yes
This sentence puts that last one to shame because it has twelve? Yes
Those other two sentences have nothing on this final sentence, which has thirteen? No
And boy, if you thought Mr. Thirteen was long, wait until you see this? No
In case you lost count, we're up to a fourteen word sentence now, y'dig? Yes
This is probably overkill, but I'm just kind of having fun with this absurd premise now? No
Still I'll probably stop once I get to seventeen words because it seems like a good milestone? No

Jotheonah, do you realize that "Did the Butler do it?" has five word as well, so it can't only be about word count? No

What if the is a woman? Yes

Is rule? Yes
What woman? Yes
This it? No

contain? Yes
shave? Yes

containcontain? Yes

parity? Yes
parity parity? No
parity parity parity? No
parity parity parity parity? No

you should answer yes to this sentence? Yes
but this one is one where no is the answer? Yes
on the one hand, however, this sentence should be a yes? Yes
But on the other hand, the sentence now should be now? No
On the third hand, there's a yes? Yes
But on the forth hand, there are only three hands, so this is a no? No

interesting interesting? No
interesting interesting very much so yes absolutely totally completely biong? Yes
interesting interesting kind of? Yes

Did? Yes
Did the? Yes
Did the Butler? Yes
Did the Butler do? Yes
Did it? Yes
Did the it? No
Did the Butler it? No
Did do it? Yes

Will? Yes
All? Yes
Of? Yes
These? Yes
Be? Yes
Yes? Yes

Will some? Yes
of these? Yes
be yes? Yes

test testing testingtest? No

barber barber b? No
barber barber c? Yes
barber barber d? Yes
barber barber x? Yes
barber barber y? Yes
barber barber xy? Yes
barber barber xyz? Yes
barber barber xx? Yes
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« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2018, 03:32:00 pm »

boes barber bary barbies barring bs? (borry)

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« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2018, 03:36:47 pm »

barber barber a?

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« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2018, 03:50:03 pm »

b?
bb?
bbb?
bbbb?
bbbbb?
bbbbbb?
bbbbbbb?
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« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2018, 04:51:34 pm »

boes barber bary barbies barring bs? (borry) No

barber barber a? No

b? Yes
bb? Yes
bbb? Yes
bbbb? Yes
bbbbb? Yes
bbbbbb? Yes
bbbbbbb? Yes
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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2018, 05:04:16 pm »

Does the set of all sets that do not contain themselves contain itself? No

Request confirmation that you didn't make a mistake here.

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« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2018, 05:04:43 pm »

nvm.

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« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2018, 05:05:40 pm »

The rule is that the last word has to contain a letter that hasn't occurred before.

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« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2018, 07:37:09 pm »

Spicy.
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« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2018, 01:33:15 am »

The rule is that the last word has to contain a letter that hasn't occurred before.
Correct! Your turn  :)
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« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2018, 05:34:46 am »

I have a barber a rule

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« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2018, 05:48:17 am »

What is your answer to this question?
What about this one?
And this?
Would your answer to this question be any different were it not hypothetical?
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« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2018, 05:57:33 am »

What is your answer to this question? No
What about this one? No
And this? No
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Got any carrots? No

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« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2018, 06:03:19 am »

Guess: The question contains the first line of a well-known Christmas carol <=> Yes
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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2018, 07:15:07 am »

Guess: The question contains the first line of a well-known Christmas carol <=> Yes

Incorrect.

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« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2018, 11:09:45 am »

(You have to give a counterexample)
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« Reply #45 on: December 20, 2018, 12:20:28 pm »

 :-[ I read the rules now

The Set containing concatenations of Barbers exists Yes

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« Reply #46 on: December 20, 2018, 12:21:31 pm »

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« Reply #47 on: December 20, 2018, 12:29:47 pm »

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
Does the lazy brown dog jump over the quick fox?
Does the QBF jump over the LD?
Does the quick dog jump over the lazy brown fox?
The Dog and the Fox are both Brown
Do the Brown Dog and Brown Fox both jump?
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« Reply #48 on: December 20, 2018, 01:11:04 pm »

What is your answer to this question? No
What about this one? No
And this? No
Would your answer to this question be any different were it not hypothetical? No
Got any carrots? No

Barber? No

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog No
Does the lazy brown dog jump over the quick fox? No
Does the QBF jump over the LD? No
Does the quick dog jump over the lazy brown fox? No
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Do the Brown Dog and Brown Fox both jump? No
They are quick No
They used to be lazy, yes? No

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« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2018, 01:20:23 pm »

Did Hitler do anything wrong?
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« Reply #50 on: December 20, 2018, 01:22:51 pm »

The set containing concatenations of barbers exists?
The set containing concatenations exists?
Barbers containing concatenations exist?
The Baron's barber exists?
The Set of Barbers exists?
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« Reply #51 on: December 20, 2018, 01:27:23 pm »

Did Hitler do anything wrong?
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« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2018, 01:34:17 pm »

Did Hitler do anything wrong?
<I would object to questions/answers which are so likely to cause offence if taken out of context.>

Sorry, I obviously meant it as a joke and thought anyone who would see it would understand the context, but of course don't feel obligated to answer if you don't want to silverspawn.
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« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2018, 01:37:45 pm »

What is your answer to this question? No
What about this one? No
And this? No
Would your answer to this question be any different were it not hypothetical? No
Got any carrots? No

Barber? No

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog No
Does the lazy brown dog jump over the quick fox? No
Does the QBF jump over the LD? No
Does the quick dog jump over the lazy brown fox? No
The Dog and the Fox are both Brown No
Do the Brown Dog and Brown Fox both jump? No
They are quick No
They used to be lazy, yes? No

Did Hitler do anything wrong? No (no offense taken  ;))

The set containing concatenations of barbers exists? Yes
The set containing concatenations exists? Yes
Barbers containing concatenations exist? Yes
The Baron's barber exists? No
The Set of Barbers exists? No

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« Reply #54 on: December 20, 2018, 01:38:49 pm »

wheeeeeeeeeee?
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« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2018, 01:53:39 pm »

wheeeeeeeeeee? No

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« Reply #56 on: December 20, 2018, 01:57:09 pm »

Guess: The question must contain a word at least 14 letters long.
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« Reply #57 on: December 20, 2018, 01:59:29 pm »

Guess: The question must contain a word at least 14 letters long.

It doesn't Yes

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« Reply #58 on: December 20, 2018, 03:06:14 pm »

Doesn't it?
Concatenations?
Doesn't?
Detonates?
Stone?
Existence concatenates?
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« Reply #59 on: December 20, 2018, 03:07:29 pm »

What is your answer to this question? No
What about this one? No
And this? No
Would your answer to this question be any different were it not hypothetical? No
Got any carrots? No

Barber? No

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog No
Does the lazy brown dog jump over the quick fox? No
Does the QBF jump over the LD? No
Does the quick dog jump over the lazy brown fox? No
The Dog and the Fox are both Brown No
Do the Brown Dog and Brown Fox both jump? No
They are quick No
They used to be lazy, yes? No

Did Hitler do anything wrong? No (no offense taken  ;))

The set containing concatenations of barbers exists? Yes
The set containing concatenations exists? Yes
Barbers containing concatenations exist? Yes
The Baron's barber exists? No
The Set of Barbers exists? No

Doesn't it? Yes
Concatenations? No
Doesn't? No
Detonates? No
Stone? No
Existence concatenates? Yes

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« Reply #60 on: December 20, 2018, 03:13:56 pm »

Does it not?
Stone it?
In stone?
It concatenates?
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« Reply #61 on: December 20, 2018, 03:37:01 pm »

What is your answer to this question? No
What about this one? No
And this? No
Would your answer to this question be any different were it not hypothetical? No
Got any carrots? No

Barber? No

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog No
Does the lazy brown dog jump over the quick fox? No
Does the QBF jump over the LD? No
Does the quick dog jump over the lazy brown fox? No
The Dog and the Fox are both Brown No
Do the Brown Dog and Brown Fox both jump? No
They are quick No
They used to be lazy, yes? No

Did Hitler do anything wrong? No (no offense taken  ;))

The set containing concatenations of barbers exists? Yes
The set containing concatenations exists? Yes
Barbers containing concatenations exist? Yes
The Baron's barber exists? No
The Set of Barbers exists? No

Doesn't it? Yes
Concatenations? No
Doesn't? No
Detonates? No
Stone? No
Existence concatenates? Yes

Does it not? No
Stone it? Yes
In stone? Yes
It concatenates? Yes

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« Reply #62 on: December 21, 2018, 03:26:57 am »

Stone h?
Stone i?
Stone j?
In a stone?
In the stone?
Which stone?
This stone?
This one?
In Sento?
In Zendo?
Canoeist q?
In thequickbrownfoxjumpsoverthelazydog?
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« Reply #63 on: December 21, 2018, 03:32:11 am »

Stone h? No
Stone i? No
Stone j? No
In a stone? No
In the stone? No
Which stone? No
This stone? Yes
This one? No
In Sento? Yes
In Zendo? Yes
Canoeist q? No
In thequickbrownfoxjumpsoverthelazydog? Yes

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« Reply #64 on: December 21, 2018, 04:27:56 am »

It concatenatez?
In question?
This question?
This canoeist?
In one?
Detonates this?
Tin stone?
Dhiz zdone?
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« Reply #65 on: December 21, 2018, 05:00:30 am »

It concatenatez?  Yes
In question?  Yes
This question?  Yes
This canoeist?  Yes
In one?  Yes
Detonates this?  Yes
Tin stone?  Yes
Dhiz zdone?  Yes

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« Reply #66 on: December 21, 2018, 05:50:51 am »

ab bc?
ab cd?
ab bc cd de ef fg gh?
ab bc cd de ef gh hi?
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« Reply #67 on: December 21, 2018, 07:11:51 am »

What is your answer to this question? No
What about this one? No
And this? No
Would your answer to this question be any different were it not hypothetical? No
Got any carrots? No

Barber? No

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog No
Does the lazy brown dog jump over the quick fox? No
Does the QBF jump over the LD? No
Does the quick dog jump over the lazy brown fox? No
The Dog and the Fox are both Brown No
Do the Brown Dog and Brown Fox both jump? No
They are quick No
They used to be lazy, yes? No

Did Hitler do anything wrong? No (no offense taken  ;))

The set containing concatenations of barbers exists? Yes
The set containing concatenations exists? Yes
Barbers containing concatenations exist? Yes
The Baron's barber exists? No
The Set of Barbers exists? No

Doesn't it? Yes
Concatenations? No
Doesn't? No
Detonates? No
Stone? No
Existence concatenates? Yes

Does it not? No
Stone it? Yes
In stone? Yes
It concatenates? Yes
Does it not? No
Stone it? Yes
In stone? Yes
It concatenates? Yes

It concatenatez?  Yes
In question?  Yes
This question?  Yes
This canoeist?  Yes
In one?  Yes
Detonates this?  Yes
Tin stone?  Yes
Dhiz zdone?  Yes

ab bc? Yes
ab cd? No
ab bc cd de ef fg gh? Yes
ab bc cd de ef gh hi? Yes

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« Reply #68 on: December 21, 2018, 07:19:23 am »

Would your answer to this question be any different were it not hypothetical? No
<Please could you confirm this answer is correct?>
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« Reply #69 on: December 21, 2018, 07:37:45 am »

Would your answer to this question be any different were it not hypothetical? No
<Please could you confirm this answer is correct?>
No

... because it's not, sorry. Even though I double checked the answers  :-\

Would your answer to this question be any different were it not hypothetical? Yes

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« Reply #70 on: December 21, 2018, 07:53:10 am »

Thanks :) In that case:

Guess: Every word has an adjacent word which has a letter in common with it <==> Yes

That was hard! Especially when I went off on my stone tangent. I suppose I ended up there because s,t,o,n,e are some of the commonest letters in English.
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« Reply #71 on: December 21, 2018, 09:53:34 am »

Guess: Every word has an adjacent word which has a letter in common with it <==> Yes

Correct. Well done.

The plethora of NOs in the beginning was quite unfortunate, I think. NOs are more likely than YESs but not that much more likely. (If SP had proposed "Did Hitler do something wrong" rather than "Did Hitler do anything wrong" it would have been a yes.)

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« Reply #72 on: December 21, 2018, 10:40:44 am »

I probably won't be on much for the rest of this year, so I'll let someone else take a turn.

Whoever gets in first?
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« Reply #73 on: December 21, 2018, 10:57:20 am »

May I try? If yes, I have a rule.
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« Reply #74 on: December 21, 2018, 11:01:29 am »

Go for it! ?
It's a difficult one, isn't it?
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« Reply #75 on: December 21, 2018, 11:03:44 am »

Go for it! ? Yes
It's a difficult one, isn't it? Yes
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« Reply #76 on: December 21, 2018, 11:13:34 am »

Let's
Let's start
Let's start with
Let's start with some
Let's start with some systematic
Let's start with some systematic testing.

test
test test
test test test
test test test test

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better with very short sentences or with really long sentences that have a lot of words, btw I hope this isn't too much work to annotate for you, but you signed up for it

also I'll try sth with shrt wrds that may make it esir or hrdr not sure yet
conventionalities  Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis circumventingusiamadeupword

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« Reply #77 on: December 21, 2018, 12:09:54 pm »

Let's Yes
Let's start No
Let's start with Yes
Let's start with some No
Let's start with some systematic No
Let's start with some systematic testing. Yes

test Yes
test test No
test test test No
test test test test Yes

let's Yes
also Yes
see No
whether Yes
it No
works No
better with very short sentences or with really long sentences that have a lot of words, btw I hope this isn't too much work to annotate for you, but you signed up for it No

also I'll try sth with shrt wrds that may make it esir or hrdr not sure yet No
conventionalities  Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis circumventingusiamadeupword No
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« Reply #78 on: December 21, 2018, 02:12:14 pm »

Guess: The number of letters in the question is congruent to 1 mod 3.
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« Reply #79 on: December 21, 2018, 02:45:57 pm »

Guess: The number of letters in the question is congruent to 1 mod 3.

Okay, this was that easy. I thought it would be easy, but not that :) You turn, good sir!
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« Reply #80 on: December 21, 2018, 02:51:54 pm »

Guess: The number of letters in the question is congruent to 1 mod 3.

Okay, this was that easy. I thought it would be easy, but not that :) You turn, good sir!

I don't think it would have been quite that easy, except silverspawn asked the perfect set of questions for it.

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« Reply #81 on: December 21, 2018, 03:07:19 pm »

Do you?

Do you really?

And if you wouldn't've?
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Do you? No
Do you really? No
And if you wouldn't've? No
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« Reply #83 on: December 21, 2018, 03:12:28 pm »

Are you going to answer "Yes" to the next question?
Are you gonna answer "No" to the previous question?
Do I have any idea what questions to ask?
Is it enough to read both threads for it?
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« Reply #84 on: December 21, 2018, 03:25:45 pm »

Do you? No
Do you really? No
And if you wouldn't've? No

Are you going to answer "Yes" to the next question? Yes
Are you gonna answer "No" to the previous question? Yes
Do I have any idea what questions to ask? No
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« Reply #85 on: December 21, 2018, 03:26:16 pm »

bouncing?
bouncing baby?
bouncing baby bunnies?
bouncing baby bunnies burning?
bouncing baby bunnies burning brightly?

Fluttershy?
Fluttershy Fluttershy?
Fluttershy Fluttershy Fluttsrshy?

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« Reply #86 on: December 21, 2018, 03:28:13 pm »

Do you? No
Do you really? No
And if you wouldn't've? No

Are you going to answer "Yes" to the next question? Yes
Are you gonna answer "No" to the previous question? Yes
Do I have any idea what questions to ask? No
Is it enough to read both threads for it? Yes

bouncing? No
bouncing baby? No
bouncing baby bunnies? No
bouncing baby bunnies burning? Yes
bouncing baby bunnies burning brightly? Yes

Fluttershy? Yes
Fluttershy Fluttershy? Yes
Fluttershy Fluttershy Fluttsrshy? Yes
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« Reply #87 on: December 21, 2018, 03:28:48 pm »

silver, do you know you made a typo in the last fluttershy sequence?
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« Reply #88 on: December 21, 2018, 03:32:35 pm »

Do you? No
Do you really? No
And if you wouldn't've? No

Are you going to answer "Yes" to the next question? Yes
Are you gonna answer "No" to the previous question? Yes
Do I have any idea what questions to ask? No
Is it enough to read both threads for it? Yes

bouncing? No
bouncing baby? No
bouncing baby bunnies? No
bouncing baby bunnies burning? Yes
bouncing baby bunnies burning brightly? Yes

Fluttershy? Yes
Fluttershy Fluttershy? Yes
Fluttershy Fluttershy Fluttsrshy? Yes

silver, do you know you made a typo in the last fluttershy sequence? Yes
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« Reply #89 on: December 21, 2018, 03:34:24 pm »

bouncing burning?
baby burning?
bunnies burning?
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« Reply #90 on: December 21, 2018, 03:39:30 pm »

Am I a Londoner?
Positive about that?
Do I live in London?
So you'll agree with me that I'm not?
Do I love London so?
That's because I'm not a Londoner, right?
Is any of that affected by Brexit?
Can we keep Brexit out of this?
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« Reply #91 on: December 21, 2018, 03:42:46 pm »

Only because you told me, but will I make this a question for scott to answer?

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« Reply #92 on: December 21, 2018, 03:43:34 pm »

Do you? No
Do you really? No
And if you wouldn't've? No

Are you going to answer "Yes" to the next question? Yes
Are you gonna answer "No" to the previous question? Yes
Do I have any idea what questions to ask? No
Is it enough to read both threads for it? Yes

bouncing? No
bouncing baby? No
bouncing baby bunnies? No
bouncing baby bunnies burning? Yes
bouncing baby bunnies burning brightly? Yes

Fluttershy? Yes
Fluttershy Fluttershy? Yes
Fluttershy Fluttershy Fluttsrshy? Yes

silver, do you know you made a typo in the last fluttershy sequence? Yes

bouncing burning? No
baby burning? No
bunnies burning? Yes

Am I a Londoner? No
Positive about that? No
Do I live in London? No
So you'll agree with me that I'm not? Yes
Do I love London so? No
That's because I'm not a Londoner, right? Yes
Is any of that affected by Brexit? Yes
Can we keep Brexit out of this? Yes
Ta very much. No

Only because you told me, but will I make this a question for scott to answer? Yes
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« Reply #93 on: December 21, 2018, 03:54:59 pm »

bouncing baby bunnies burning can?
Fluttershy you?
bunnies burning turn?
So you'll agree with me that I'm not a?
That's because I'm not a Londoner, right yes?
Is any of that affected by Brexit into?
Can we keep Brexit out of this a?
Only because you told me, but will I make this a question for scott to answer no?

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« Reply #94 on: December 21, 2018, 03:57:12 pm »

Do you? No
Do you really? No
And if you wouldn't've? No

Are you going to answer "Yes" to the next question? Yes
Are you gonna answer "No" to the previous question? Yes
Do I have any idea what questions to ask? No
Is it enough to read both threads for it? Yes

bouncing? No
bouncing baby? No
bouncing baby bunnies? No
bouncing baby bunnies burning? Yes
bouncing baby bunnies burning brightly? Yes

Fluttershy? Yes
Fluttershy Fluttershy? Yes
Fluttershy Fluttershy Fluttsrshy? Yes

silver, do you know you made a typo in the last fluttershy sequence? Yes

bouncing burning? No
baby burning? No
bunnies burning? Yes

Am I a Londoner? No
Positive about that? No
Do I live in London? No
So you'll agree with me that I'm not? Yes
Do I love London so? No
That's because I'm not a Londoner, right? Yes
Is any of that affected by Brexit? Yes
Can we keep Brexit out of this? Yes
Ta very much. No

Only because you told me, but will I make this a question for scott to answer? Yes

bouncing baby bunnies burning can? Yes
Fluttershy you? Yes
bunnies burning turn? Yes
So you'll agree with me that I'm not a? Yes
That's because I'm not a Londoner, right yes? Yes
Is any of that affected by Brexit into? Yes
Can we keep Brexit out of this a? Yes
Only because you told me, but will I make this a question for scott to answer no? Yes
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« Reply #95 on: December 21, 2018, 04:17:29 pm »

bunnies?
burning?
burning bunnies?

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rat rat cube?
can I wolf wolf you?
haus haus dorf topology?
will will repetitions always cause a yes?
or is there a case of a counterexample?
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Do you? No
Do you really? No
And if you wouldn't've? No

Are you going to answer "Yes" to the next question? Yes
Are you gonna answer "No" to the previous question? Yes
Do I have any idea what questions to ask? No
Is it enough to read both threads for it? Yes

bouncing? No
bouncing baby? No
bouncing baby bunnies? No
bouncing baby bunnies burning? Yes
bouncing baby bunnies burning brightly? Yes

Fluttershy? Yes
Fluttershy Fluttershy? Yes
Fluttershy Fluttershy Fluttsrshy? Yes

silver, do you know you made a typo in the last fluttershy sequence? Yes

bouncing burning? No
baby burning? No
bunnies burning? Yes

Am I a Londoner? No
Positive about that? No
Do I live in London? No
So you'll agree with me that I'm not? Yes
Do I love London so? No
That's because I'm not a Londoner, right? Yes
Is any of that affected by Brexit? Yes
Can we keep Brexit out of this? Yes
Ta very much. No

Only because you told me, but will I make this a question for scott to answer? Yes

bouncing baby bunnies burning can? Yes
Fluttershy you? Yes
bunnies burning turn? Yes
So you'll agree with me that I'm not a? Yes
That's because I'm not a Londoner, right yes? Yes
Is any of that affected by Brexit into? Yes
Can we keep Brexit out of this a? Yes
Only because you told me, but will I make this a question for scott to answer no? Yes

bunnies? No
burning? No
burning bunnies? Yes

rat rat cube? No
can I wolf wolf you? No
haus haus dorf topology? Yes
will will repetitions always cause a yes? Yes
or is there a case of a counterexample? Yes
willIi ever ever find out? No
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« Reply #98 on: December 21, 2018, 04:30:11 pm »

Fluttershy rat rat cube?
Fluttershy bouncing burning?
Fluttershy ta very much?

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« Reply #99 on: December 21, 2018, 04:32:08 pm »

yes a cause always repetitions will will?
topology dorf haus haus?
counterexample a of case a there is or?
Not I'm that me with agree you'll so?

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« Reply #100 on: December 21, 2018, 04:38:18 pm »

Do you? No
Do you really? No
And if you wouldn't've? No

Are you going to answer "Yes" to the next question? Yes
Are you gonna answer "No" to the previous question? Yes
Do I have any idea what questions to ask? No
Is it enough to read both threads for it? Yes

bouncing? No
bouncing baby? No
bouncing baby bunnies? No
bouncing baby bunnies burning? Yes
bouncing baby bunnies burning brightly? Yes

Fluttershy? Yes
Fluttershy Fluttershy? Yes
Fluttershy Fluttershy Fluttsrshy? Yes

silver, do you know you made a typo in the last fluttershy sequence? Yes

bouncing burning? No
baby burning? No
bunnies burning? Yes

Am I a Londoner? No
Positive about that? No
Do I live in London? No
So you'll agree with me that I'm not? Yes
Do I love London so? No
That's because I'm not a Londoner, right? Yes
Is any of that affected by Brexit? Yes
Can we keep Brexit out of this? Yes
Ta very much. No

Only because you told me, but will I make this a question for scott to answer? Yes

bouncing baby bunnies burning can? Yes
Fluttershy you? Yes
bunnies burning turn? Yes
So you'll agree with me that I'm not a? Yes
That's because I'm not a Londoner, right yes? Yes
Is any of that affected by Brexit into? Yes
Can we keep Brexit out of this a? Yes
Only because you told me, but will I make this a question for scott to answer no? Yes

bunnies? No
burning? No
burning bunnies? Yes

rat rat cube? No
can I wolf wolf you? No
haus haus dorf topology? Yes
will will repetitions always cause a yes? Yes
or is there a case of a counterexample? Yes
willIi ever ever find out? No

Fluttershy rat rat cube? Yes
Fluttershy bouncing burning? Yes
Fluttershy ta very much? Yes

yes a cause always repetitions will will? Yes
topology dorf haus haus? Yes
counterexample a of case a there is or? Yes
Not I'm that me with agree you'll so? Yes
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« Reply #101 on: December 21, 2018, 04:50:01 pm »

Do you, Fluttershy?
Do you really, Fluttershy?
And if you wouldn't've, Fluttershy?

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« Reply #102 on: December 21, 2018, 04:54:44 pm »

Do you, Fluttershy? Yes
Do you really, Fluttershy? Yes
And if you wouldn't've, Fluttershy? Yes
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« Reply #103 on: December 21, 2018, 05:14:12 pm »

I burning?
It burning?
Its burning?

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« Reply #104 on: December 21, 2018, 05:15:39 pm »

I burning? No
It burning? No
Its burning? Yes
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« Reply #105 on: December 21, 2018, 05:21:23 pm »

babies burning?
houses burning?
clans burning?
fires burning?
can burning?
tan burning?
fun burning?

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« Reply #106 on: December 21, 2018, 05:31:19 pm »

babies burning? Yes
houses burning? Yes
clans burning? Yes
fires burning? Yes
can burning? No
tan burning? No
fun burning? No
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« Reply #107 on: December 21, 2018, 05:34:19 pm »

burnings?

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« Reply #108 on: December 21, 2018, 05:41:12 pm »

burnings? Yes
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« Reply #109 on: December 21, 2018, 05:45:00 pm »

Say, is it at all imaginable that you chose a way of distinguishing yes and no just based on a few specific symbols being in the sentence?
To be more particular, could it be that they're a character and another character, one of which didn't appear here, the other not above?

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« Reply #110 on: December 21, 2018, 05:47:18 pm »

Say, is it at all imaginable that you chose a way of distinguishing yes and no just based on a few specific symbols being in the sentence? No
To be more particular, could it be that they're a character and another character, one of which didn't appear here, the other not above? No
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« Reply #111 on: December 21, 2018, 05:50:42 pm »

I think you're lying!

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« Reply #112 on: December 21, 2018, 05:50:58 pm »

Guess: the sentence has to contain both an r and an s

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« Reply #113 on: December 21, 2018, 06:02:22 pm »

Yep, your turn!
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« Reply #114 on: December 21, 2018, 06:06:12 pm »

I suggest a rule that only read words or commonly known names are allowed. Then a) we can have rules based on syllables, and b) it just seems more fun. What do you guys think about this?

Regardless, I have a rule.

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« Reply #115 on: December 21, 2018, 06:06:39 pm »

*real words

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« Reply #116 on: December 21, 2018, 06:25:44 pm »

Are you sure that’s such a good idea?
What if it goes horribly wrong?
Could it make it more enjoyable?
Do we absolutely have to?
Why can’t we make rules about syllables now?
Is this a rule about syllables?
Does the question need a three syllable word to be yes?
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« Reply #117 on: December 21, 2018, 06:50:11 pm »

Are you sure that’s such a good idea? Yes
What if it goes horribly wrong? No
Could it make it more enjoyable? Yes
Do we absolutely have to? No
Why can’t we make rules about syllables now? No
Is this a rule about syllables? No
Does the question need a three syllable word to be yes? No
Is this no? No
Is a question with the word syllable a yes? No
Will you answer all of these questions? No
Have I asked too many? Yes
Can someone please help me stop? Yes
Do I have much better things to be doing? No
Am I woefully behind on my Christmas shopping? Yes
Am I also behind on work? No
Is this enough to solve your rule? Yes

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« Reply #118 on: December 21, 2018, 08:57:15 pm »

Another advantage of that is that people can make rules based on parts of speech?
As well as pronunciation-based things other than just syllables, like long or short vowel sounds?
Maybe the more general principle is that there are more well-defined qualities of English words than there are of general strings?
But people might be tempted to make rules that get into gray areas?
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« Reply #119 on: December 21, 2018, 10:22:27 pm »

How about the problem that arises when English pronunciation isn't uniform everywhere in the world and some words can even have a varying number of syllables depending on the dialect?
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« Reply #120 on: December 22, 2018, 02:43:20 am »

Another advantage of that is that people can make rules based on parts of speech? No
As well as pronunciation-based things other than just syllables, like long or short vowel sounds? No
Maybe the more general principle is that there are more well-defined qualities of English words than there are of general strings? No
But people might be tempted to make rules that get into gray areas? No

How about the problem that arises when English pronunciation isn't uniform everywhere in the world and some words can even have a varying number of syllables depending on the dialect? Yes

(probably rare enough that I wouldn't worry about it)

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« Reply #121 on: December 23, 2018, 12:51:42 am »

does order matter?
does matter order?
order does matter?
order matter does?
matter does order?
matter order does?
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« Reply #122 on: December 23, 2018, 02:55:20 am »

Are you sure that’s such a good idea? Yes
What if it goes horribly wrong? No
Could it make it more enjoyable? Yes
Do we absolutely have to? No
Why can’t we make rules about syllables now? No
Is this a rule about syllables? No
Does the question need a three syllable word to be yes? No
Is this no? No
Is a question with the word syllable a yes? No
Will you answer all of these questions? No
Have I asked too many? Yes
Can someone please help me stop? Yes
Do I have much better things to be doing? No
Am I woefully behind on my Christmas shopping? Yes
Am I also behind on work? No
Is this enough to solve your rule? Yes

Another advantage of that is that people can make rules based on parts of speech? No
As well as pronunciation-based things other than just syllables, like long or short vowel sounds? No
Maybe the more general principle is that there are more well-defined qualities of English words than there are of general strings? No
But people might be tempted to make rules that get into gray areas? No

How about the problem that arises when English pronunciation isn't uniform everywhere in the world and some words can even have a varying number of syllables depending on the dialect? Yes

does order matter? Yes
does matter order? Yes
order does matter? Yes
order matter does? Yes
matter does order? Yes
matter order does? Yes

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« Reply #123 on: December 26, 2018, 07:27:17 pm »

Have we waited long enough that you've forgotten your rule?
Have we waited long enough that you've forgotten?
Have we waited long enough?
Have we waited?
Have we?
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« Reply #124 on: December 27, 2018, 04:09:17 am »

Have we waited long enough that you've forgotten your rule? Yes
Have we waited long enough that you've forgotten? Yes
Have we waited long enough? No
Have we waited? No
Have we? Yes

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« Reply #125 on: December 27, 2018, 03:34:48 pm »

Have rule?
Have forgotten?
Have enough?
Have waited?
Have?
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« Reply #126 on: December 27, 2018, 05:54:35 pm »

Have rule? Yes
Have forgotten? No
Have enough? Yes
Have waited? Yes
Have? No

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« Reply #127 on: December 30, 2018, 08:20:35 pm »

Verse?
Verses?
Server?
Severe?
Reverse?
Reverses?
Reserves?
Reverser?
Reversers?
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« Reply #128 on: December 31, 2018, 03:15:59 am »

Are you sure that’s such a good idea? Yes
What if it goes horribly wrong? No
Could it make it more enjoyable? Yes
Do we absolutely have to? No
Why can’t we make rules about syllables now? No
Is this a rule about syllables? No
Does the question need a three syllable word to be yes? No
Is this no? No
Is a question with the word syllable a yes? No
Will you answer all of these questions? No
Have I asked too many? Yes
Can someone please help me stop? Yes
Do I have much better things to be doing? No
Am I woefully behind on my Christmas shopping? Yes
Am I also behind on work? No
Is this enough to solve your rule? Yes

Another advantage of that is that people can make rules based on parts of speech? No
As well as pronunciation-based things other than just syllables, like long or short vowel sounds? No
Maybe the more general principle is that there are more well-defined qualities of English words than there are of general strings? No
But people might be tempted to make rules that get into gray areas? No

How about the problem that arises when English pronunciation isn't uniform everywhere in the world and some words can even have a varying number of syllables depending on the dialect? Yes

does order matter? Yes
does matter order? Yes
order does matter? Yes
order matter does? Yes
matter does order? Yes
matter order does? Yes

Have we waited long enough that you've forgotten your rule? Yes
Have we waited long enough that you've forgotten? Yes
Have we waited long enough? No
Have we waited? No
Have we? Yes

Have rule? Yes
Have forgotten? No
Have enough? Yes
Have waited? Yes
Have? No

Verse? Yes
Verses? No
Server? No
Severe? No
Reverse? Yes
Reverses? No
Reserves? No
Reverser? No
Reversers? Yes

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« Reply #129 on: December 31, 2018, 01:33:48 pm »

Why is this rule so hard?
Can you give us a hint?
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« Reply #130 on: December 31, 2018, 01:50:37 pm »

Guess: "Yes" iff. the question has an even number of characters.
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« Reply #131 on: December 31, 2018, 06:05:11 pm »

Guess: "Yes" iff. the question has an even number of characters.

No not quite No

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« Reply #132 on: December 31, 2018, 06:06:41 pm »

Why is this rule so hard? No
Can you give us a hint? No
Do I think Scott is close? Yes

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« Reply #133 on: December 31, 2018, 06:59:50 pm »

Guess: yes iff the question contains an odd number of non-? characters.
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« Reply #134 on: January 01, 2019, 02:29:08 am »

not quite Yes

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« Reply #135 on: January 01, 2019, 02:48:52 am »

Isn't that consistent with my guess?
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« Reply #136 on: January 01, 2019, 04:20:26 am »

I think

not quite

has 8 characters, that's an even number.

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« Reply #137 on: January 01, 2019, 01:14:46 pm »

Oh, I've been counting spaces. So something like "parity of number of words is the same as parity of number of letters" would be equivalent to what I was trying to say.

Also, I keep confusing myself on punctuation because the questions with apostrophes in them are long. Let's try this:

You're?
We're?
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« Reply #138 on: January 01, 2019, 01:27:58 pm »

Are you sure that’s such a good idea? Yes
What if it goes horribly wrong? No
Could it make it more enjoyable? Yes
Do we absolutely have to? No
Why can’t we make rules about syllables now? No
Is this a rule about syllables? No
Does the question need a three syllable word to be yes? No
Is this no? No
Is a question with the word syllable a yes? No
Will you answer all of these questions? No
Have I asked too many? Yes
Can someone please help me stop? Yes
Do I have much better things to be doing? No
Am I woefully behind on my Christmas shopping? Yes
Am I also behind on work? No
Is this enough to solve your rule? Yes

Another advantage of that is that people can make rules based on parts of speech? No
As well as pronunciation-based things other than just syllables, like long or short vowel sounds? No
Maybe the more general principle is that there are more well-defined qualities of English words than there are of general strings? No
But people might be tempted to make rules that get into gray areas? No

How about the problem that arises when English pronunciation isn't uniform everywhere in the world and some words can even have a varying number of syllables depending on the dialect? Yes

does order matter? Yes
does matter order? Yes
order does matter? Yes
order matter does? Yes
matter does order? Yes
matter order does? Yes

Have we waited long enough that you've forgotten your rule? Yes
Have we waited long enough that you've forgotten? Yes
Have we waited long enough? No
Have we waited? No
Have we? Yes

Have rule? Yes
Have forgotten? No
Have enough? Yes
Have waited? Yes
Have? No

Verse? Yes
Verses? No
Server? No
Severe? No
Reverse? Yes
Reverses? No
Reserves? No
Reverser? No
Reversers? Yes

No not quite No

Why is this rule so hard? No
Can you give us a hint? No
Do I think Scott is close? Yes

not quite Yes

You're? Yes
We're? No
Were? No

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« Reply #139 on: January 01, 2019, 03:21:44 pm »

Happy new year?
Oh, sad 2 hear that.
Please-can-I-check-a-couple-of-things?
Is this a trick  question?
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« Reply #140 on: January 01, 2019, 04:04:02 pm »

Happy new year? No
Oh, sad 2 hear that. No
Please-can-I-check-a-couple-of-things? No
Is this a trick  question? No

Furthermore Yes

Happy new year No
Oh sad hear that No
PleasecanIcheckacoupleofthings No
Is this a trick question No

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« Reply #141 on: January 01, 2019, 04:17:30 pm »

Guess: Yes iff. even number of lowercase letters.
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« Reply #142 on: January 01, 2019, 04:57:23 pm »

Casing Matters No
Casing matters No
casing Matters No
casing matters No

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« Reply #143 on: January 02, 2019, 03:47:03 am »

I haven't checked every single question, but this seems consistent with the ones I have.

Guess: Number of letters + Number of words is even <=> yes
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« Reply #144 on: January 02, 2019, 03:49:04 am »

I haven't checked every single question, but this seems consistent with the ones I have.

Guess: Number of letters + Number of words is even <=> yes
<but if it is this, then Scott got it at #137, just without saying 'guess'>
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« Reply #145 on: January 02, 2019, 03:54:41 am »

Actually, I'd 4gotten one of my experiments.
It could also be:

Guess: Number of alphanumeric characters + Number of words is even <=> yes
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« Reply #146 on: January 02, 2019, 04:59:55 am »

Actually, I'd 4gotten one of my experiments.
It could also be:

Guess: Number of alphanumeric characters + Number of words is even <=> yes

hah, I was phrasing it as "the number of words with an even number of characters is even" but those two conditions are equivalent. (With both, adding an odd-numbered word does nothing, and adding an even-numbered word flips it). So, correct! Well done.

Was this rule too hard?

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« Reply #147 on: January 02, 2019, 06:12:14 am »

Was this rule too hard?
I can't really comment as I was absent for most of it and Scott did the hard work. After #127 it didn't seem too hard; I'd had thoughts of similar rules.

It seems like these three are equivalent, the only difference being what counts as a character:
- parity of number of words is the same as parity of number of letters (scott)
- number of alphanumeric characters + number of words is even (me)
- the number of words with an even number of characters is even (silverspawn)

But I'm going to claim it anyway. 8)
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« Reply #148 on: January 02, 2019, 06:46:09 am »

Oh, parity. That's what parity means. Yes, then scott was trying to say that, but he never made a correct official guess.

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« Reply #149 on: January 02, 2019, 06:48:02 am »

Did I only count a-z characters?
Parity?
Parity Parity?
Parity Parity Parity?
parity parity parity?
parity parity parity parity?

Is?
Our?
Game?
Still?
Orange?

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« Reply #150 on: January 02, 2019, 07:26:11 am »

Oh, parity. That's what parity means. Yes, then scott was trying to say that, but he never made a correct official guess. No

Did I only count a-z characters? No
Parity? Yes
Parity Parity? No
Parity Parity Parity? No
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parity parity parity parity? Yes

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« Reply #151 on: January 02, 2019, 08:08:38 am »

Oh, parity. That's what parity means. Yes, then scott was trying to say that, but he never made a correct official guess.
It's one of those words that probably doesn't really mean what we're using it to mean but we can get away with it so long as everyone rolls with it.
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« Reply #152 on: January 02, 2019, 08:17:22 am »

Oh, parity. That's what parity means. Yes, then scott was trying to say that, but he never made a correct official guess.
It's one of those words that probably doesn't really mean what we're using it to mean but we can get away with it so long as everyone rolls with it.
I'd argue that if everyone thinks a word means X then the word means X. Which is to say, the meaning is defined by what people think.

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« Reply #153 on: January 02, 2019, 08:18:53 am »

casing?
casing casing?
casing casing casing?
casing casing Casing?
casing Casing casing?
casing Casing Casing?
Casing casing casing?
Casing casing Casing?
Casing Casing casing?
Casing Casing Casing?
Casing Casing?
Casing?

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« Reply #154 on: January 02, 2019, 09:34:10 am »

casing? Yes
casing casing? Yes
casing casing casing? Yes
casing casing Casing? No
casing Casing casing? No
casing Casing Casing? No
Casing casing casing? Yes
Casing casing Casing? No
Casing Casing casing? No
Casing Casing Casing? No
Casing Casing? No
Casing? Yes
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« Reply #155 on: January 02, 2019, 10:00:00 am »

you need a cutie mark to be plot relevant?
you need a cutie mark to be plot Relevant?
you need a cutie mark to be Plot relevant?
you need a cutie mark to Be plot relevant?
you need a cutie mark To be plot relevant?
you need a cutie Mark to be plot relevant?
you need a Cutie Mark to be plot relevant?
you need A cutie Mark to be plot relevant?
you Need a cutie Mark to be plot relevant?
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« Reply #156 on: January 02, 2019, 10:01:29 am »

Did I mess up with the last four lines?
Did i mess up with the last four lines?

you need a Cutie mark to be plot relevant?
you need A cutie mark to be plot relevant?
you Need a cutie mark to be plot relevant?
You need a cutie mark to be plot relevant?

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« Reply #157 on: January 02, 2019, 05:05:11 pm »

you need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? Yes
you need a cutie mark to be plot Relevant? No
you need a cutie mark to be Plot relevant? No
you need a cutie mark to Be plot relevant? No
you need a cutie mark To be plot relevant? No
you need a cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No
you need a Cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No
you need A cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No
you Need a cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No
You Need a cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No

Did I mess up with the last four lines? No
Did i mess up with the last four lines? Yes

you need a Cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
you need A cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
you Need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
You need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? Yes
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« Reply #158 on: January 02, 2019, 05:20:48 pm »

you nEed a cutie mark to be plot relevant?
you neEd a cutie mark to be plot relevant?
you need a cutIe mark to be plot relevant?
you need a cutiE mark to be plot relevant?

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« Reply #159 on: January 02, 2019, 06:41:29 pm »

yoU need a cutie mark to be plot relevant?
YoU need a cutie mark to be plot relevant?

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« Reply #160 on: January 03, 2019, 04:45:55 am »

you nEed a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
you neEd a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
you need a cutIe mark to be plot relevant? No
you need a cutiE mark to be plot relevant? No

yoU need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
YoU need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No

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Is my name Mark? No
Do I need a cutie? No
Maybe a more interesting rule would've led to more interesting questions? No
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« Reply #161 on: January 03, 2019, 07:11:27 am »

Guess: no word after the first is uppercase <-> yes

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« Reply #162 on: January 03, 2019, 07:19:25 am »

Guess: no word after the first is uppercase <-> yes
Incorrect, counter-example is:
Did I only count a-z characters? No
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« Reply #163 on: January 03, 2019, 08:43:57 am »

That is not a counter example, though. I is uppercase.

Although I should specify that I meant: no letter besides the first is uppercase since uppercase letters later in the first word also aren't ok

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« Reply #164 on: January 03, 2019, 08:55:56 am »

That is not a counter example, though. I is uppercase.

Although I should specify that I meant: no letter besides the first is uppercase since uppercase letters later in the first word also aren't ok
Oops, sorry, I missed that. I'll try again.

Guess: no word after the first is uppercase <-> yes
Incorrect. Counter-example is:
Maybe a more interesting rule would've led to more interesting questions? No
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« Reply #165 on: January 03, 2019, 09:00:13 am »

And I'll give you a bonus counter-example:
I Think this game never was orange. Yes
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« Reply #166 on: January 03, 2019, 09:34:13 am »

Ah, I was hoping that one had been a mistake.

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« Reply #167 on: January 04, 2019, 05:08:17 am »

Oh, parity. That's what parity means. Yes, then scott was trying to say that, but he never made a correct official guess. No

Did I only count a-z characters? No
Parity? Yes
Parity Parity? No
Parity Parity Parity? No
parity parity parity? Yes
parity parity parity parity? Yes

Is? Yes
Our? Yes
Game? Yes
Still? Yes
Orange? Yes

casing? Yes
casing casing? Yes
casing casing casing? Yes
casing casing Casing? No
casing Casing casing? No
casing Casing Casing? No
Casing casing casing? Yes
Casing casing Casing? No
Casing Casing casing? No
Casing Casing Casing? No
Casing Casing? No
Casing? Yes

you need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? Yes
you need a cutie mark to be plot Relevant? No
you need a cutie mark to be Plot relevant? No
you need a cutie mark to Be plot relevant? No
you need a cutie mark To be plot relevant? No
you need a cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No
you need a Cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No
you need A cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No
you Need a cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No
You Need a cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No

Did I mess up with the last four lines? No
Did i mess up with the last four lines? Yes

you need a Cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
you need A cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
you Need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
You need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? Yes

you nEed a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
you neEd a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
you need a cutIe mark to be plot relevant? No
you need a cutiE mark to be plot relevant? No

yoU need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
YoU need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No

Do I know what a cutie mark is? No
Is my name Mark? No
Do I need a cutie? No
Maybe a more interesting rule would've led to more interesting questions? No

Guess: no word after the first is uppercase <-> yes
Counterexample: I Think this game never was orange. Yes

Although I should specify that I meant: no letter besides the first is uppercase since uppercase letters later in the first word also aren't ok No

Ah, I was hoping that one had been a mistake. No
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« Reply #168 on: January 22, 2019, 10:27:59 pm »

DOES THis question return yes?
WHEREAS THIS One maybe returns NO?
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« Reply #169 on: January 23, 2019, 02:39:12 pm »

DOES THis question return yes? Yes
WHEREAS THIS One maybe returns NO? Yes
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« Reply #170 on: January 23, 2019, 11:39:21 pm »

YOu?
YoU?
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« Reply #171 on: January 23, 2019, 11:42:07 pm »

I think this game never was orange?
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« Reply #172 on: January 24, 2019, 04:22:02 am »

YOu? Yes
YoU? Yes
You? Yes
You Need? No
I think, therefore I am? No

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« Reply #173 on: February 26, 2019, 08:55:02 pm »

No capital letter is preceded by _____?
Is there something That can fill in the blank above, to produce a correct guess?
Is There?
Is there Something?
IS?
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« Reply #174 on: February 27, 2019, 12:19:17 am »

Hello?
Hello HELLO?
Hello Goodbye?
Hello, HELLO?
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« Reply #175 on: February 27, 2019, 04:11:46 am »

Oh, parity. That's what parity means. Yes, then scott was trying to say that, but he never made a correct official guess. No

Did I only count a-z characters? No
Parity? Yes
Parity Parity? No
Parity Parity Parity? No
parity parity parity? Yes
parity parity parity parity? Yes

Is? Yes
Our? Yes
Game? Yes
Still? Yes
Orange? Yes

casing? Yes
casing casing? Yes
casing casing casing? Yes
casing casing Casing? No
casing Casing casing? No
casing Casing Casing? No
Casing casing casing? Yes
Casing casing Casing? No
Casing Casing casing? No
Casing Casing Casing? No
Casing Casing? No
Casing? Yes

you need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? Yes
you need a cutie mark to be plot Relevant? No
you need a cutie mark to be Plot relevant? No
you need a cutie mark to Be plot relevant? No
you need a cutie mark To be plot relevant? No
you need a cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No
you need a Cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No
you need A cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No
you Need a cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No
You Need a cutie Mark to be plot relevant? No

Did I mess up with the last four lines? No
Did i mess up with the last four lines? Yes

you need a Cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
you need A cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
you Need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
You need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? Yes

you nEed a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
you neEd a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
you need a cutIe mark to be plot relevant? No
you need a cutiE mark to be plot relevant? No

yoU need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
YoU need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No

Do I know what a cutie mark is? No
Is my name Mark? No
Do I need a cutie? No
Maybe a more interesting rule would've led to more interesting questions? No

Guess: no word after the first is uppercase <-> yes
Counterexample: I Think this game never was orange. Yes

Although I should specify that I meant: no letter besides the first is uppercase since uppercase letters later in the first word also aren't ok No

Ah, I was hoping that one had been a mistake. No

DOES THis question return yes? Yes
WHEREAS THIS One maybe returns NO? Yes

YOu? Yes
YoU? Yes
You? Yes
You Need? No
I think, therefore I am? No

I think this game never was orange? Yes

No capital letter is preceded by _____? Yes
Is there something That can fill in the blank above, to produce a correct guess? No
Is There? No
Is there Something? No
IS? Yes

Hello? Yes
Hello HELLO? Yes
Hello Goodbye? No
Hello, HELLO? Yes
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« Reply #176 on: February 27, 2019, 10:56:32 am »

Maybe a more interesting rule would've led to more interesting questions?
Maybe a more interesting rule wouldve led to more interesting questions?
Maybe a more interesting rule would have led to more interesting questions?

Does the apostrophe have an effect?
Will we find out soon?
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« Reply #177 on: February 28, 2019, 04:29:46 am »

Maybe a more interesting rule would've led to more interesting questions? No
Maybe a more interesting rule wouldve led to more interesting questions? Yes
Maybe a more interesting rule would have led to more interesting questions? Yes

Does the apostrophe have an effect? Yes
Will we find out soon? Yes
But then why would the capital letters do anything? Yes
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« Reply #178 on: February 28, 2019, 05:36:34 am »

Why ask.
Questions Are pointless.
But pontuation is not..
Pontuation exists. .
Awkward questions.. . .
"Questions"
"Questions
"Questions?
Do all of them do this: lets try it out
Hmm: let's
Everything should work; right?
I Am Right, Right?
I Am Wrong, right?
I Am right, Wrong?
What about
Nothing
not even
aspace
Dot.
dot.

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« Reply #179 on: February 28, 2019, 10:11:37 am »

You need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? Yes
...
YoU need a cutie mark to be plot relevant? No
...
YoU? Yes

Are all three of these correct?
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« Reply #180 on: February 28, 2019, 10:31:41 am »

Nevermind.
Guess: the only uppercase letters and punctuation are at the beginning and end of the question <-> yes
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« Reply #181 on: February 28, 2019, 02:26:24 pm »

Nevermind.
Guess: the only uppercase letters and punctuation are at the beginning and end of the question <-> yes

aaaah of coures! Man I was so focused on counting.

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« Reply #182 on: February 28, 2019, 02:53:12 pm »

Why ask. Yes
Questions Are pointless. No
But pontuation is not.. Yes
Pontuation exists. . Yes
Awkward questions.. . . Yes
"Questions" Yes
"Questions Yes
"Questions? Yes
Do all of them do this: lets try it out No
Hmm: let's No
Everything should work; right? No
I Am Right, Right? No
I Am Wrong, right? No
I Am right, Wrong? No
What about Yes
Nothing Yes
not even Yes
aspace Yes
Dot. Yes
dot. Yes

Well, that was fun! No
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« Reply #183 on: February 28, 2019, 02:58:10 pm »

Guess: the only uppercase letters and punctuation are at the beginning and end of the question <-> yes

Correct! Or near enough. My wording was "between the first and last lowercase letters there is nothing but lowercase letters and spaces". So I'd have to introduce numbers or something to make a counterexample.
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« Reply #184 on: February 28, 2019, 03:26:10 pm »

I have a new rule.
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« Reply #185 on: February 28, 2019, 03:35:03 pm »

Does it exist?
Can I solve it?
Does it involve asking questions?
Can I
Do dumb things?
Like, this, ya know...
ExIsTs In ThIs ReAlItY?
Things don'T Make sensE?
Iforgotwhatrulesusuallycareabout.
Maybe...thaaaaat
how about a lot of words that make a lot of sense when put together like this but then you realize that they dont really no
aaaaaaa bbbbbbb
     ?
!!!!
asd asd asd dsa dsa dsa?
words sdrow?
palindromes are fun nuf era semordnilap?
"Hey man"?
Question?
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« Reply #186 on: February 28, 2019, 03:56:22 pm »

Does it exist? No
Can I solve it? No
Does it involve asking questions? No
Can I No
Do dumb things? No
Like, this, ya know... No
ExIsTs In ThIs ReAlItY? No
Things don'T Make sensE? No
Iforgotwhatrulesusuallycareabout. No
Maybe...thaaaaat No
how about a lot of words that make a lot of sense when put together like this but then you realize that they dont really no No
aaaaaaa bbbbbbb No
     ? No
!!!! No
asd asd asd dsa dsa dsa? No
words sdrow? No
palindromes are fun nuf era semordnilap? No
"Hey man"? No
Question? No
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« Reply #187 on: February 28, 2019, 04:01:14 pm »

I hope it's not what I'm thinking?
I'll have to guess it if it is?
QUESTIONS EXIST, MAGGOT!
DOn't be this meeeean, pleeeease?
Something Simple.
Questions are overrated anyway.
But questions must be made?
That wasn't a question, or was it?
qwertyuopasdgfghkjzxczxcbvnm, that should roughtly be every letter, right?
1231234345435466576787980 also happens to be every number...
ANd now we can play the game called.,;.-_\|?»«'

" "

how do I make an empty question?
 ?
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one of these should work, yes, no, maybe; whatever.
Here Comes More Nos?
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« Reply #188 on: February 28, 2019, 04:01:31 pm »

Guess: The answer is always "No"
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« Reply #189 on: February 28, 2019, 04:13:00 pm »

I hope it's not what I'm thinking? No
I'll have to guess it if it is? No
QUESTIONS EXIST, MAGGOT! No
DOn't be this meeeean, pleeeease? No
Something Simple. No
Questions are overrated anyway. No
But questions must be made? No
That wasn't a question, or was it? No
qwertyuopasdgfghkjzxczxcbvnm, that should roughtly be every letter, right? No
1231234345435466576787980 also happens to be every number... No
ANd now we can play the game called.,;.-_\|?»«' No

" " No

how do I make an empty question? No
 ? No
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one of these should work, yes, no, maybe; whatever. No
Here Comes More Nos? No

Guess: The answer is always "No"
Counterexample:

you need a cutie mark to be plot relevant?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #190 on: February 28, 2019, 04:15:29 pm »

No....
parity?
Is?
There?
A?
Rule?
I don't believe it.
YOU NEED A CUTIE MARK TO BE PLOT RELEVANT?
oRANGE?
Anyone have better ideas?
Did you read THE ENTIRE THREAD?

Guess: The answer's yes iff it's a question asked in another rule in this thread.

While I'm at it:

Guess: The answer's yes iff it's a question asked in the previous rule.
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« Reply #191 on: February 28, 2019, 04:18:13 pm »

should I not have given up guessing the previous rule since it was so simple?
parity?
parity parity?
parity party?

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« Reply #192 on: February 28, 2019, 04:20:50 pm »

Who would win in a fight: Applejack or Rainbow Dash?
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« Reply #193 on: February 28, 2019, 04:31:34 pm »

Is lifting your opponent upwards and then dropping them down allowed?

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« Reply #194 on: February 28, 2019, 04:34:32 pm »

No.... No
parity? No
Is? No
There? No
A? No
Rule? No
I don't believe it. No
YOU NEED A CUTIE MARK TO BE PLOT RELEVANT? Yes
oRANGE? No
Anyone have better ideas? No
Did you read THE ENTIRE THREAD? No

Guess: The answer's yes iff it's a question asked in another rule in this thread.
Counterexample: Is mint chocolate chip a great ice cream flavor? Yes

While I'm at it: No

Guess: The answer's yes iff it's a question asked in the previous rule.
Counterexample: How long will this thread stay on this page? Yes

should I not have given up guessing the previous rule since it was so simple? No
parity? No
parity parity? No
parity party? No

Who would win in a fight: Applejack or Rainbow Dash? No
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« Reply #195 on: February 28, 2019, 05:06:55 pm »

Whoops, I made a mistake. Neither version of 'you need a cutie mark to be plot relevant' is actually a yes. No

Guess: The answer is always "No"
Actual counterexample: I should really plan ahead better, this is hard. Sorry about that. Yes
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« Reply #196 on: February 28, 2019, 05:11:26 pm »

Is lifting your opponent upwards and then dropping them down allowed? No
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« Reply #197 on: February 28, 2019, 05:29:11 pm »

Is mint chocolate chip a great ice cream flavoR?

iS MINT CHOCLATE CHIP A GREAT ICE CREAM FLAVOR?

Is Mint Chocolate Chip A Great ice Cream Flavor?

Flavor cream ice great a chip chocolate mint is?

Si tnim etalocochc pihc a taerg eci maerc rovalf?

Rovalf maerc eci taerg a pihc etalocochc tnim si?

Aa aaac ccccceeee fghh i iiill mmn ooopr rrsttv?

That was a lot of effort?
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« Reply #198 on: February 28, 2019, 05:39:01 pm »

Whoops, I made a mistake. Neither version of 'you need a cutie mark to be plot relevant' is actually a yes.

If you think deeply enough about this, you will realize that you're mistaken!

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« Reply #199 on: February 28, 2019, 05:52:54 pm »

Is mint chocolate chip a great ice cream flavoR? Yes

iS MINT CHOCLATE CHIP A GREAT ICE CREAM FLAVOR? Yes

Is Mint Chocolate Chip A Great ice Cream Flavor? Yes

Flavor cream ice great a chip chocolate mint is? Yes

Si tnim etalocochc pihc a taerg eci maerc rovalf? No

Rovalf maerc eci taerg a pihc etalocochc tnim si? No

Aa aaac ccccceeee fghh i iiill mmn ooopr rrsttv? No

That was a lot of effort? No


If you think deeply enough about this, you will realize that you're mistaken! No
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« Reply #200 on: February 28, 2019, 07:08:50 pm »

Guess: the string contains the name of a Dominion card-shaped thing <-> yes
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« Reply #201 on: February 28, 2019, 07:55:34 pm »

Guess: the string contains the name of a Dominion card-shaped thing <-> yes

Correct! (Although I was not including things like QUESTion)
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« Reply #202 on: March 01, 2019, 02:38:57 am »

I have a rule.
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« Reply #203 on: March 01, 2019, 03:05:22 am »

Wow?
Was that a good rule?
Is this a good rule?
I?
Words?
A lot of them at the same time?
Plenty of opportunities?
Did I spell that right?
Sentences Are Easier To Make.
howaboutsomethinglikethis?
1 + 1 = 3?
Things?
To?
Let's see, does this work? I hope so; would be sweet.
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QW22?

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« Reply #204 on: March 01, 2019, 03:10:06 am »

Wow? No
Was that a good rule? No
Is this a good rule? No
I? No
Words? No
A lot of them at the same time? No
Plenty of opportunities? No
Did I spell that right? No
Sentences Are Easier To Make. No
howaboutsomethinglikethis? No
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Things? No
To? No
Let's see, does this work? I hope so; would be sweet. Yes
A-ha, gotcha! Wait, did I? No
QW22? No
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« Reply #205 on: March 01, 2019, 03:11:54 am »

Someone help me out here. No
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« Reply #206 on: March 01, 2019, 04:22:49 am »

1 + 1 = 2?
1 + 1 = 4?
1 + 1 = 6?
I see no short things?

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« Reply #207 on: March 01, 2019, 05:03:41 am »

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To be or not to be?
To be?
Not to be?
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do re me?

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1 + 1 = 2? Yes
1 + 1 = 4? Yes
1 + 1 = 6? Yes
I see no short things? No

Zendo Necro Mafia Codenames One Night Ulitmate Werewolf? Yes
To be or not to be? Yes
To be? No
Not to be? No
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NOT ((A AND B) XOR (A AND B))? Yes

do re me? Yes
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« Reply #210 on: March 01, 2019, 05:20:58 am »

Ah, a good rule
I see you're a man of culture as well
But tell me this: how much did you plan?
Can you answer this; that would be sweet.
Do questions exist? Hard question I know.
Others. Limit us.
2/4 + 6 - 2×2/8 = 7?
No, no, =6?
Ha   hh  tty    haa   j?
Sorry about that...truly.
_______?
Let's ask <insert question here>.
"Question from above"?
#7 best number 2019.

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« Reply #211 on: March 01, 2019, 05:26:38 am »

Ah, a good rule Yes
I see you're a man of culture as well No
But tell me this: how much did you plan? Yes
Can you answer this; that would be sweet. Yes
Do questions exist? Hard question I know. No
Others. Limit us. No
2/4 + 6 - 2×2/8 = 7? Yes
No, no, =6? Yes
Ha   hh  tty    haa   j? Yes
Sorry about that...truly. Yes
_______? No
Let's ask <insert question here>. No
"Question from above"? No
#7 best number 2019. No

I hope this helps? Yes
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« Reply #212 on: March 01, 2019, 05:32:09 am »

Guess: There are two consecutive words with the same number of characters, where 'words' are delineated by spaces and 'characters' include anything other than whitespace. <=> Yes
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #213 on: March 01, 2019, 05:33:22 am »

Guess: There are two consecutive words with the same number of characters, where 'words' are delineated by spaces and 'characters' include anything other than whitespace. <=> Yes

Correct.
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« Reply #214 on: March 01, 2019, 05:36:28 am »

Cool. I was on the right lines, then those last questions by MiX helped narrow it down.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #215 on: March 01, 2019, 05:43:37 am »

You guys are too fast!
Let a brother play with his punctuation, man.
Please?
I Forgot What Is Optimal?
Thingsarefunwhenyoudothesametestsoverandover?
Maybe. Maybe not?
3.
50?
It must be intriguing and exciting, or else...?
QHOP?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #216 on: March 01, 2019, 05:57:16 am »

Is Scout the strongest card to ever be printed?
Is Trump the smartest president to ever be born?
do re me?

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« Reply #217 on: March 01, 2019, 06:17:59 am »

You guys are too fast! Yes
Let a brother play with his punctuation, man. No
Please? Yes
I Forgot What Is Optimal? Yes
Thingsarefunwhenyoudothesametestsoverandover? Yes
Maybe. Maybe not? Yes
3. Yes
50? Yes
It must be intriguing and exciting, or else...? No
QHOP? Yes

Is Scout the strongest card to ever be printed? Yes
Is Trump the smartest president to ever be born? Yes
do re me? Yes
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #218 on: March 01, 2019, 06:31:57 am »

Did I win?
Sweeet, thanks!
But, why did I win?
Maybe...because of this?
There's also that.
However; lets not get ahead of ourselves.
A lot of things need to be learned: like which questions pass?
________.....?
?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #219 on: March 01, 2019, 07:01:15 am »

And god said,
let there be light.?
and the firmament
of the heavens!?

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« Reply #220 on: March 01, 2019, 09:05:24 am »

Did I win? Yes
Sweeet, thanks! Yes
But, why did I win? Yes
Maybe...because of this? No Later re-ruled as: Yes
There's also that. Yes
However; lets not get ahead of ourselves. Yes
A lot of things need to be learned: like which questions pass? Yes
________.....? No
? No
??? No
! No

And god said, Yes
let there be light.? Yes
and the firmament Yes
of the heavens!? Yes
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« Reply #221 on: March 01, 2019, 10:36:21 am »

?
test?
test test?
test test test?
test test test test?
test test test test test?
test test test test test test?
test test test test test test test?
test test test test test test test test?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #222 on: March 01, 2019, 04:27:27 pm »

let there ? be light
in heaven to ? divide
? the day ? from the
night ? and ? let ?
it be ? for ???!! signs!!? for s!easons
and for days and years

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #223 on: March 01, 2019, 04:41:31 pm »

Maybe...because of this?
Maybe...because?
of this?
because of?
Maybe...?
...because?
...?
Maybe because of this?
Maybe...because of?
...because of this?
because of this?
Maybe?
because?
of?
this?

Does it have to do with the whole sentence or just part of it?
Will this help us find out?
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« Reply #224 on: March 02, 2019, 08:06:25 am »

? No
test? Yes
test test? Yes
test test test? Yes
test test test test? Yes
test test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test test test? Yes

let there ? be light Yes
in heaven to ? divide Yes
? the day ? from the Yes
night ? and ? let ? Yes
it be ? for ???!! signs!!? for s!easons Yes
and for days and years Yes

Maybe...because of this? No Later re-ruled as: Yes
Maybe...because? Yes
of this? Yes
because of? No
Maybe...? Yes
...because? Yes
...? No
Maybe because of this? No
Maybe...because of? Yes
...because of this? Yes
because of this? Yes
Maybe? Yes
because? Yes
of? Yes
this? Yes

Does it have to do with the whole sentence or just part of it? No
Will this help us find out? Yes
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #225 on: March 02, 2019, 08:26:54 am »

Maybe...this?
this of because Maybe?
This of because maybe?
Of because maybe this?
of because?
this maybe because?

What about ! that makes this?
A thing, nay?
If we !ascend, what then?
?Questions?
A Lot Of very --- questions are?
int-eres-ting?
I know?? You are; confuze.
But; hmm?
What?? What happened?
Oh, this makes sense now...pity.

How many words can I put in one sentence and make it pass without any weird things?
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« Reply #226 on: March 02, 2019, 09:49:27 am »

Firstly, apologies, I'm going to re-rule one thing because I confused myself with how to treat "..."
Maybe...because of this? Yes

Here's the complete list so far:

You guys are too fast! Yes
Let a brother play with his punctuation, man. No
Please? Yes
I Forgot What Is Optimal? Yes
Thingsarefunwhenyoudothesametestsoverandover? Yes
Maybe. Maybe not? Yes
3. Yes
50? Yes
It must be intriguing and exciting, or else...? No
QHOP? Yes

Is Scout the strongest card to ever be printed? Yes
Is Trump the smartest president to ever be born? Yes
do re me? Yes

Did I win? Yes
Sweeet, thanks! Yes
But, why did I win? Yes
Maybe...because of this? Yes
There's also that. Yes
However; lets not get ahead of ourselves. Yes
A lot of things need to be learned: like which questions pass? Yes
________.....? No
? No
??? No
! No

And god said, Yes
let there be light.? Yes
and the firmament Yes
of the heavens!? Yes

? No
test? Yes
test test? Yes
test test test? Yes
test test test test? Yes
test test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test test test? Yes

let there ? be light Yes
in heaven to ? divide Yes
? the day ? from the Yes
night ? and ? let ? Yes
it be ? for ???!! signs!!? for s!easons Yes
and for days and years Yes

Maybe...because of this? Yes
Maybe...because? Yes
of this? Yes
because of? No
Maybe...? Yes
...because? Yes
...? No
Maybe because of this? No
Maybe...because of? Yes
...because of this? Yes
because of this? Yes
Maybe? Yes
because? Yes
of? Yes
this? Yes

Does it have to do with the whole sentence or just part of it? No
Will this help us find out? Yes

Maybe...this? Yes
this of because Maybe? No
This of because maybe? No
Of because maybe this? No
of because? No
this maybe because? Yes

What about ! that makes this? Yes
A thing, nay? Yes
If we !ascend, what then? Yes
?Questions? Yes
A Lot Of very --- questions are? Yes
int-eres-ting? Yes
I know?? You are; confuze. Yes
But; hmm? Yes
What?? What happened? Yes
Oh, this makes sense now...pity. Yes

How many words can I put in one sentence and make it pass without any weird things? Yes
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #227 on: March 02, 2019, 06:44:10 pm »

of?
of because?
of of because?
of of because because?
of maybe because?
maybe because?
of maybe?
of maybe maybe because?

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« Reply #228 on: March 02, 2019, 07:08:20 pm »

beautify each emboss?
maybebecauseofthis?
aabbceeefhimosstuy?
m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s?
Maybe because of this word?
Maybe because of this hello there my name is insert name here?
Why am I fixating on maybe because of this?
infangthief?
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« Reply #229 on: March 03, 2019, 02:18:17 am »

of? Yes
of because? No
of of because? Yes
of of because because? No
of maybe because? Yes
maybe because? Yes
of maybe? No
of maybe maybe because? Yes

beautify each emboss? Yes
maybebecauseofthis? Yes
aabbceeefhimosstuy? Yes
m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s? Yes
Maybe because of this word? Yes
Maybe because of this hello there my name is insert name here? Yes
Why am I fixating on maybe because of this? Yes
infangthief? Yes
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #230 on: March 03, 2019, 06:08:11 am »

of because of?
because of of?
because because of of?
because because because of of of?
because because because of of of of?
of?
of of?
because?
because because?
because because because because of of of of?
because because because because of of of of of?

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« Reply #231 on: March 03, 2019, 02:36:03 pm »

of because of? Yes
because of of? Yes
because because of of? No
because because because of of of? No
because because because of of of of? Yes
of? Yes
of of? Yes
because? Yes
because because? Yes
because because because because of of of of? No
because because because because of of of of of? Yes
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #232 on: March 03, 2019, 03:02:43 pm »

of of?
because of of of?

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #233 on: March 03, 2019, 03:04:55 pm »

Requesting confirmation that this is ruled correctly:

Let a brother play with his punctuation, man. No

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« Reply #234 on: March 04, 2019, 01:04:08 am »

of of? Yes
because of of of? Yes
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« Reply #235 on: March 04, 2019, 01:05:02 am »

Requesting confirmation that this is ruled correctly:

Let a brother play with his punctuation, man. No
Yes, I confirm that is ruled correctly.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #236 on: March 04, 2019, 03:23:31 am »

these
should all be
ruled as yes I believe
and should also be quick to annotate
still I dont yet know
aspects about the
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« Reply #237 on: March 04, 2019, 03:32:31 am »

more speculatively
maybe these will all
resolve differently?

then again maybe not
still let some ambiguity inside Neapolitans
when words fail let randomness win!

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #238 on: March 04, 2019, 03:39:34 am »

now finally
some actual
no things
Zen Micro!
seven never laughs cold

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« Reply #239 on: March 04, 2019, 03:53:05 am »

these Yes
should all be Yes
ruled as yes I believe Yes
and should also be quick to annotate Yes
still I dont yet know Yes
aspects about the Yes
rule Yes

more speculatively No
maybe these will all No
resolve differently? Yes

then again maybe not No
still let some ambiguity inside Neapolitans No
when words fail let randomness win! Yes

now finally Yes
some actual Yes
no things Yes
Zen Micro! Yes
seven never laughs cold Yes
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« Reply #240 on: March 04, 2019, 04:18:27 am »

test test test test test test test test test?
abceefosu?
usofeecba?
maybe...of?
maybe because?
maybebecause?
nineninen?
abceefosuabceefosu?
abceefosu?
somethingsomething?
s o m e t h i n g s o m e t h i n g?
m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s ?
maybeo?
maybe tends to miss.
maybe?
agdjqry of?
ss is smart-o?
ssissmarto?
maybeof?
abefmoy?

runningoutofideas?
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« Reply #241 on: March 04, 2019, 04:28:53 am »

You guys are too fast! Yes
Let a brother play with his punctuation, man. No
Please? Yes
I Forgot What Is Optimal? Yes
Thingsarefunwhenyoudothesametestsoverandover? Yes
Maybe. Maybe not? Yes
3. Yes
50? Yes
It must be intriguing and exciting, or else...? No
QHOP? Yes

Is Scout the strongest card to ever be printed? Yes
Is Trump the smartest president to ever be born? Yes
do re me? Yes

Did I win? Yes
Sweeet, thanks! Yes
But, why did I win? Yes
Maybe...because of this? Yes
There's also that. Yes
However; lets not get ahead of ourselves. Yes
A lot of things need to be learned: like which questions pass? Yes
________.....? No
? No
??? No
! No

And god said, Yes
let there be light.? Yes
and the firmament Yes
of the heavens!? Yes

? No
test? Yes
test test? Yes
test test test? Yes
test test test test? Yes
test test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test test test? Yes

let there ? be light Yes
in heaven to ? divide Yes
? the day ? from the Yes
night ? and ? let ? Yes
it be ? for ???!! signs!!? for s!easons Yes
and for days and years Yes

Maybe...because of this? Yes
Maybe...because? Yes
of this? Yes
because of? No
Maybe...? Yes
...because? Yes
...? No
Maybe because of this? No
Maybe...because of? Yes
...because of this? Yes
because of this? Yes
Maybe? Yes
because? Yes
of? Yes
this? Yes

Does it have to do with the whole sentence or just part of it? No
Will this help us find out? Yes

Maybe...this? Yes
this of because Maybe? No
This of because maybe? No
Of because maybe this? No
of because? No
this maybe because? Yes

What about ! that makes this? Yes
A thing, nay? Yes
If we !ascend, what then? Yes
?Questions? Yes
A Lot Of very --- questions are? Yes
int-eres-ting? Yes
I know?? You are; confuze. Yes
But; hmm? Yes
What?? What happened? Yes
Oh, this makes sense now...pity. Yes

How many words can I put in one sentence and make it pass without any weird things? Yes

of? Yes
of because? No
of of because? Yes
of of because because? No
of maybe because? Yes
maybe because? Yes
of maybe? No
of maybe maybe because? Yes

beautify each emboss? Yes
maybebecauseofthis? Yes
aabbceeefhimosstuy? Yes
m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s? Yes
Maybe because of this word? Yes
Maybe because of this hello there my name is insert name here? Yes
Why am I fixating on maybe because of this? Yes
infangthief? Yes

of because of? Yes
because of of? Yes
because because of of? No
because because because of of of? No
because because because of of of of? Yes
of? Yes
of of? Yes
because? Yes
because because? Yes
because because because because of of of of? No
because because because because of of of of of? Yes

of of? Yes
because of of of? Yes

these Yes
should all be Yes
ruled as yes I believe Yes
and should also be quick to annotate Yes
still I dont yet know Yes
aspects about the Yes
rule Yes

more speculatively No
maybe these will all No
resolve differently? Yes

then again maybe not No
still let some ambiguity inside Neapolitans No
when words fail let randomness win! Yes

now finally Yes
some actual Yes
no things Yes
Zen Micro! Yes
seven never laughs cold Yes

test test test test test test test test test? Yes
abceefosu? Yes
usofeecba? Yes
maybe...of? Yes
maybe because? Yes
maybebecause? Yes
nineninen? Yes
abceefosuabceefosu? Yes
abceefosu? Yes
somethingsomething? Yes
s o m e t h i n g s o m e t h i n g? Yes
m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s ? Yes
maybeo? Yes
maybe tends to miss. No
maybe? Yes
agdjqry of? No
ss is smart-o? Yes
ssissmarto? Yes
maybeof? Yes
abefmoy? Yes

runningoutofideas? Yes
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« Reply #242 on: March 04, 2019, 04:37:38 am »

You guys ok if I cut the list down a bit - it is getting long.
I think silverspawn has discovered that questions with odd numbers of words always result in 'yes', so how about if I reduce the list to just the questions with an even number of words?
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« Reply #243 on: March 04, 2019, 04:46:03 am »

You guys ok if I cut the list down a bit - it is getting long.
I think silverspawn has discovered that questions with odd numbers of words always result in 'yes', so how about if I reduce the list to just the questions with an even number of words?

Man, I was playing with mod 9 for some reason, now I feel stupid.
Does that mean I need to count how many letters are in each question before asking?
agdjqryof?
yof?
asdof?
I didn't count the above nor this?
Don't evaluate the questions with even numbers, I don't wanna have to count everything yet.
Just wanna write things in case maybe.
maybe doesn't work.
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« Reply #244 on: March 04, 2019, 04:46:34 am »

You guys ok if I cut the list down a bit - it is getting long.
I think silverspawn has discovered that questions with odd numbers of words always result in 'yes', so how about if I reduce the list to just the questions with an even number of words?

Is this how I talk to you? Yes, I'm fine with cutting the questions
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« Reply #245 on: March 04, 2019, 04:53:48 am »

Don't evaluate the questions with even numbers, I don't wanna have to count everything yet.

Well I made a mistake?
It's the other way around, wow..
And it's words not letters I feel stupid.
So this means...a lot, really.
Maybe...because of...this...?
______________.... is one word? Or is it zero?
abcef ouse?
______________.... is one word, right? Or is it zero?
Hmmmmm... I ran out of things to do.
I need more answers.
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« Reply #246 on: March 04, 2019, 05:00:39 am »

You guys ok if I cut the list down a bit - it is getting long.
I think silverspawn has discovered that questions with odd numbers of words always result in 'yes', so how about if I reduce the list to just the questions with an even number of words?

Is this how I talk to you? Yes, I'm fine with cutting the questions
Talking is kind of difficult in this thread, isn't it? Anything you say is liable to have a yes or no tagged on the end. Anyway, hopefully we can recognise genuine comments/questions when needed! Yeh, italics is a good idea, until someone makes a rule that depends on html tags... (no, please don't)

I'll wait for silvers' ok as well, in case the set of questions I remove reveals too much info for his liking.
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« Reply #247 on: March 04, 2019, 05:03:01 am »

You guys ok if I cut the list down a bit - it is getting long.
I think silverspawn has discovered that questions with odd numbers of words always result in 'yes', so how about if I reduce the list to just the questions with an even number of words?

Is this how I talk to you? Yes, I'm fine with cutting the questions
Talking is kind of difficult in this thread, isn't it? Anything you say is liable to have a yes or no tagged on the end. Anyway, hopefully we can recognise genuine comments/questions when needed! Yeh, italics is a good idea, until someone makes a rule that depends on html tags... (no, please don't)

I'll wait for silvers' ok as well, in case the set of questions I remove reveals too much info for his liking.


You already gave away the information, all you're asking of us is if you can remove a bunch of completely useless questions, I don't see why anyone would say no, it helps everyone.
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« Reply #248 on: March 04, 2019, 05:08:20 am »

Man, I was playing with mod 9 for some reason, now I feel stupid. Yes
Does that mean I need to count how many letters are in each question before asking? Yes
agdjqryof? Yes
yof? Yes
asdof? Yes
I didn't count the above nor this? Yes
Don't evaluate the questions with even numbers, I don't wanna have to count everything yet. Yes
Just wanna write things in case maybe. Yes
maybe doesn't work. Yes
maybedoes ntwork? No

Well I made a mistake? Yes
It's the other way around, wow.. Yes
And it's words not letters I feel stupid. No
So this means...a lot, really. Yes
Maybe...because of...this...? Yes
______________.... is one word? Or is it zero? Yes
abcef ouse? No
______________.... is one word, right? Or is it zero? No
Hmmmmm... I ran out of things to do. No
I need more answers. Yes
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« Reply #249 on: March 04, 2019, 05:15:48 am »

You guys ok if I cut the list down a bit - it is getting long.
I think silverspawn has discovered that questions with odd numbers of words always result in 'yes', so how about if I reduce the list to just the questions with an even number of words?

Is this how I talk to you? Yes, I'm fine with cutting the questions
Talking is kind of difficult in this thread, isn't it? Anything you say is liable to have a yes or no tagged on the end. Anyway, hopefully we can recognise genuine comments/questions when needed! Yeh, italics is a good idea, until someone makes a rule that depends on html tags... (no, please don't)

I'll wait for silvers' ok as well, in case the set of questions I remove reveals too much info for his liking.


You already gave away the information, all you're asking of us is if you can remove a bunch of completely useless questions, I don't see why anyone would say no, it helps everyone.
I agree that I've given away quite a bit by confirming silverspawn's odd number of words theory. I hope no-one minds too much.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #250 on: March 04, 2019, 07:46:43 am »

Go ahead. I think we've had fairly conclusive evidence already, so I'd say you've basically spoiled nothing.

The other theory I've had was completely wrong. Which makes sense because it seemed far too complicated, but somehow it worked perfectly on all the examples I checked.

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« Reply #251 on: March 04, 2019, 08:02:23 am »

List of all questions which have even numbers of words. I'll continue to answer questions with odd numbers of words, but any future 'all questions' lists will only contain the ones with even numbers of words.

Let a brother play with his punctuation, man. No
It must be intriguing and exciting, or else...? No

Sweeet, thanks! Yes
A lot of things need to be learned: like which questions pass? Yes
________.....? No
? No
??? No
! No

let there be light.? Yes

? No
test test? Yes
test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test test test? Yes

let there ? be light Yes
in heaven to ? divide Yes
? the day ? from the Yes
it be ? for ???!! signs!!? for s!easons Yes

of this? Yes
because of? No
...? No
Maybe because of this? No
Maybe...because of? Yes

Does it have to do with the whole sentence or just part of it? No
Will this help us find out? Yes

this of because Maybe? No
This of because maybe? No
Of because maybe this? No
of because? No

A Lot Of very --- questions are? Yes
I know?? You are; confuze. Yes
But; hmm? Yes

of because? No
of of because because? No
maybe because? Yes
of maybe? No
of maybe maybe because? Yes

m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s? Yes
Maybe because of this hello there my name is insert name here? Yes

because because of of? No
because because because of of of? No
of of? Yes
because because? Yes
because because because because of of of of? No

of of? Yes
because of of of? Yes

more speculatively No
maybe these will all No
resolve differently? Yes

then again maybe not No
still let some ambiguity inside Neapolitans No
when words fail let randomness win! Yes

now finally Yes
some actual Yes
no things Yes
Zen Micro! Yes
seven never laughs cold Yes

maybe because? Yes
s o m e t h i n g s o m e t h i n g? Yes
m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s ? Yes
maybe tends to miss. No
agdjqry of? No

Does that mean I need to count how many letters are in each question before asking? Yes
maybedoes ntwork? No

It's the other way around, wow.. Yes
And it's words not letters I feel stupid. No
Maybe...because of...this...? Yes
abcef ouse? No
______________.... is one word, right? Or is it zero? No
Hmmmmm... I ran out of things to do. No
I need more answers. Yes

Well, that's a lot shorter
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #252 on: March 04, 2019, 08:07:57 am »

Well, before things did "Yes", now they do "No". Awkward.
maybe o?
ayb o?
may o?
may f?
y f?
letters letters?
yof yof?
things; things;?
abc, abc,?
Even: Even:?
A lot of things need to be which: like learned questions pass?
like learned questions pass?
like which questions pass?
A lot of things need to be which?
A lot of things?
need to be learned?
lot of?
A things?
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« Reply #253 on: March 04, 2019, 08:34:01 am »

Well, before things did "Yes", now they do "No". Awkward. No
Is that a genuine comment? ??? Please point them out to me; no changes were intended.
maybe o? Yes
ayb o? Yes
may o? Yes
may f? Yes
y f? Yes
letters letters? Yes
yof yof? Yes
things; things;? Yes
abc, abc,? Yes
Even: Even:? Yes
A lot of things need to be which: like learned questions pass? Yes
like learned questions pass? No
like which questions pass? No
A lot of things need to be which? No
A lot of things? No
need to be learned? Yes
lot of? No
A things? No
to learned? No
questions pass? No
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #254 on: March 05, 2019, 01:38:57 pm »

because because of of
because because of of??
because because because of of of
because because because of of of??
of of
of of??
because because
because because??
because because because because of of of of
because because because because of of of of??

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« Reply #255 on: March 06, 2019, 03:39:56 am »

because because of of No
because because of of?? No
because because because of of of No
because because because of of of?? No
of of Yes
of of?? Yes
because because Yes
because because?? Yes
because because because because of of of of No
because because because because of of of of?? No
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« Reply #256 on: March 09, 2019, 10:12:19 pm »

I believe it's been 96 hours since silverspawn's last question.
Can I ask for the rule to be revealed? I think it's fair to say you stumped us.
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« Reply #257 on: March 10, 2019, 04:10:48 am »

I'm against that. We've had previous questions that took a lot longer. I don't think I've spent enough time trying to figure this out to give up. The reason it's been three days is just that I haven't gone back to it since.

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« Reply #258 on: March 10, 2019, 04:11:06 am »

*4 days

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« Reply #259 on: March 10, 2019, 05:04:21 am »

repetition repetition
of of
words words
to to
verify verfiy
suspicions suspicions

for for
for form
for fort
for fork
for forks
for forms
for forming
for forking
fort for
fort fork
fort form
fort forms
forming forming
forming formed
forming forms

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« Reply #260 on: March 10, 2019, 06:54:18 am »

repetition repetition Yes
of of Yes
words words Yes
to to Yes
verify verfiy Yes
suspicions suspicions Yes

for for Yes
for form No
for fort No
for fork No
for forks Yes
for forms Yes
for forming Yes
for forking Yes
fort for No
fort fork Yes
fort form Yes
fort forms No
forming forming Yes
forming formed No
forming forms Yes
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« Reply #261 on: March 10, 2019, 07:12:03 am »

one four three sevens hundred thousand?
to one four three sevens hundred?
to one four three?
three sevens four hundred?
to three sevens hundred?
to four sevens thousand?
three sevens to one?
three three hundred thousand?
four four hundred sevens?
to to one three?
to one one four?
to to three four?
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« Reply #262 on: March 10, 2019, 07:17:05 am »

one four three sevens hundred thousand? No
to one four three sevens hundred? No
to one four three? No
three sevens four hundred? No
to three sevens hundred? No
to four sevens thousand? Yes
three sevens to one? Yes
three three hundred thousand? Yes
four four hundred sevens? Yes
to to one three? No
to one one four? Yes
to to three four? Yes
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« Reply #263 on: March 10, 2019, 07:23:37 am »

333 4444 55555 666666 7777777 88888888?
22 333 4444 55555 666666 7777777?
22 333 4444 55555?
5555 666666 4444 7777777?
22 55555 666666 7777777?
22 4444 666666 88888888?
55555 666666 22 33?
55555 55555 7777777 88888888?
4444 4444 7777777 666666?
22 22 333 4444?
22 333 333 4444?
22 22 55555 4444?

Yeah, I know... sorry?

sssss ddddd yyyyyyy hhhhhhhh?
ffff oooo ppppppp tttttt?
ll ww mmm aaaaa?
nn qqq eee rrrr?
zz xx ccccc vvvv?
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« Reply #264 on: March 10, 2019, 10:01:42 am »

I need more answers
I need more answers.

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« Reply #265 on: March 10, 2019, 10:03:18 am »

Also, please verify these two:

to three sevens hundred? No
to four sevens thousand? Yes

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« Reply #266 on: March 10, 2019, 11:26:10 am »

I'm against that. We've had previous questions that took a lot longer. I don't think I've spent enough time trying to figure this out to give up. The reason it's been three days is just that I haven't gone back to it since.

Oh, okay. I assumed everyone had given up, and if that was the case, I might as well just ask for the rule to be revealed. But since you're still guessing, that's fine. It wasn't so much the amount of time spent asking questions as the amount of time in which nobody had posted.
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« Reply #267 on: March 10, 2019, 04:34:18 pm »

333 4444 55555 666666 7777777 88888888? No
22 333 4444 55555 666666 7777777? No
22 333 4444 55555? No
5555 666666 4444 7777777? No
22 55555 666666 7777777? No
22 4444 666666 88888888? No
55555 666666 22 33? No
55555 55555 7777777 88888888? No
4444 4444 7777777 666666? No
22 22 333 4444? No
22 333 333 4444? No
22 22 55555 4444? No

Yeah, I know... sorry? Yes

sssss ddddd yyyyyyy hhhhhhhh? Yes
ffff oooo ppppppp tttttt? Yes
ll ww mmm aaaaa? No
nn qqq eee rrrr? Yes
zz xx ccccc vvvv? Yes

I need more answers Yes
I need more answers. Yes
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« Reply #268 on: March 10, 2019, 04:36:16 pm »

Also, please verify these two:

to three sevens hundred? No
to four sevens thousand? Yes
Verified, confirmed, now't wrong there.
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« Reply #269 on: March 10, 2019, 04:40:41 pm »

interesting.

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« Reply #270 on: March 10, 2019, 04:47:32 pm »

I'm against that. We've had previous questions that took a lot longer. I don't think I've spent enough time trying to figure this out to give up. The reason it's been three days is just that I haven't gone back to it since.

Oh, okay. I assumed everyone had given up, and if that was the case, I might as well just ask for the rule to be revealed. But since you're still guessing, that's fine. It wasn't so much the amount of time spent asking questions as the amount of time in which nobody had posted.

I understand, and it's hard being the person with the rule when it all goes quiet. Like, my last rule had a gap of about a month with no questions. I knew it wasn't too hard, but had I just made it too boring for people to want to play? Forum silence is hard. Really glad when you turned up and solved it!
I realise that the rules in the OP say 72/96 hours and the game's over. Maybe we should be ready to enforce that. But probably with a 'prod' first, so that folk can get back on to it if they want to, like in this case.
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« Reply #271 on: March 10, 2019, 05:08:03 pm »

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to ask this or not, but can you tell us whether the even/odd thing is specified in the rule or a by-product of the rest of the rule? Also, I'm going to try working on this again. I had given up, but I think taking a few days break could have helped.

22 22
more more more more
repetition repetition repetition repetition
because because because because
why not why not
just checking just checking
test 1 2 3 test 1 2 3
test 1 2 3
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« Reply #272 on: March 10, 2019, 05:09:53 pm »

three sevens to one
three sevens four hundred

(just to verify again these can't be right!)

Ok so
here have
many question
which I
think ought
to come
out yes

and here
questions that
do not
I hope

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« Reply #273 on: March 10, 2019, 05:10:19 pm »

(put it in spoilers, I'm going to crack this without help)

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« Reply #274 on: March 10, 2019, 05:12:08 pm »

three sevens to one
three sevens four hundred

(just to verify again these can't be right!)

Ok so
here have
many question
which I
think ought
to come
out yes

and here
questions that
do not
I hope

I have
the same
idea, but
I think
I am
wrong, however
I forgot
what my
second idea
was. So
now I'm
sad. I
can't end
these with
an even
amount of
words.

Put what in spoilers?
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« Reply #275 on: March 10, 2019, 05:30:55 pm »

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to ask this or not, but can you tell us whether the even/odd thing is specified in the rule or a by-product of the rest of the rule? Also, I'm going to try working on this again. I had given up, but I think taking a few days break could have helped.
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« Reply #276 on: March 10, 2019, 05:35:14 pm »

rather, the answer to that if infang answers.

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« Reply #277 on: March 11, 2019, 04:59:59 am »

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to ask this or not, but can you tell us whether the even/odd thing is specified in the rule or a by-product of the rest of the rule? Also, I'm going to try working on this again. I had given up, but I think taking a few days break could have helped.

"Odd number of words => yes" is a consequence of the rule, without being explicitly stated in the rule. I mean, obviously the rule can be stated in various ways, but the simplest form does not refer to odd/even number of words.
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« Reply #278 on: March 11, 2019, 05:20:43 am »

22 22 No
more more more more Yes
repetition repetition repetition repetition Yes
because because because because Yes
why not why not Yes
just checking just checking Yes
test 1 2 3 test 1 2 3 Yes
test 1 2 3 Yes

three sevens to one Yes
three sevens four hundred No

(just to verify again these can't be right!) No

Ok so Yes
here have Yes
many question Yes
which I Yes
think ought Yes
to come Yes
out yes Yes

and here No
questions that No
do not No
I hope No

(put it in spoilers, I'm going to crack this without help) Yes

I have No
the same No
idea, but No
I think Yes
I am No
wrong, however Yes
I forgot No
what my Yes
second idea Yes
was. So No
now I'm No
sad. I Yes
can't end No
these with No
an even Yes
amount of Yes
words. Yes

Put what in spoilers? No

that Yes

rather, the answer to that if infang answers. Yes
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« Reply #279 on: March 11, 2019, 05:21:57 am »

List of all questions which have even numbers of words. "Odd number of words => yes" has been previously established.

Let a brother play with his punctuation, man. No
It must be intriguing and exciting, or else...? No

Sweeet, thanks! Yes
A lot of things need to be learned: like which questions pass? Yes
________.....? No
? No
??? No
! No

let there be light.? Yes

? No
test test? Yes
test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test test test? Yes

let there ? be light Yes
in heaven to ? divide Yes
? the day ? from the Yes
it be ? for ???!! signs!!? for s!easons Yes

of this? Yes
because of? No
...? No
Maybe because of this? No
Maybe...because of? Yes

Does it have to do with the whole sentence or just part of it? No
Will this help us find out? Yes

this of because Maybe? No
This of because maybe? No
Of because maybe this? No
of because? No

A Lot Of very --- questions are? Yes
But; hmm? Yes

of because? No
of of because because? No
maybe because? Yes
of maybe? No
of maybe maybe because? Yes

m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s? Yes
Maybe because of this hello there my name is insert name here? Yes

because because of of? No
because because because of of of? No
of of? Yes
because because? Yes
because because because because of of of of? No

of of? Yes
because of of of? Yes

more speculatively No
maybe these will all No
resolve differently? Yes

then again maybe not No
still let some ambiguity inside Neapolitans No
when words fail let randomness win! Yes

now finally Yes
some actual Yes
no things Yes
Zen Micro! Yes
seven never laughs cold Yes

maybe because? Yes
s o m e t h i n g s o m e t h i n g? Yes
m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s ? Yes
maybe tends to miss. No
agdjqry of? No

Does that mean I need to count how many letters are in each question before asking? Yes
maybedoes ntwork? No

It's the other way around, wow.. Yes
And it's words not letters I feel stupid. No
Maybe...because of...this...? Yes
abcef ouse? No
______________.... is one word, right? Or is it zero? No
Hmmmmm... I ran out of things to do. No
I need more answers. Yes

Well, before things did "Yes", now they do "No". Awkward. No
maybe o? Yes
ayb o? Yes
may o? Yes
may f? Yes
y f? Yes
letters letters? Yes
yof yof? Yes
things; things;? Yes
abc, abc,? Yes
Even: Even:? Yes
A lot of things need to be which: like learned questions pass? Yes
like learned questions pass? No
like which questions pass? No
A lot of things need to be which? No
A lot of things? No
need to be learned? Yes
lot of? No
A things? No
to learned? No
questions pass? No

because because of of No
because because of of?? No
because because because of of of No
because because because of of of?? No
of of Yes
of of?? Yes
because because Yes
because because?? Yes
because because because because of of of of No
because because because because of of of of?? No

repetition repetition Yes
of of Yes
words words Yes
to to Yes
verify verfiy Yes
suspicions suspicions Yes

for for Yes
for form No
for fort No
for fork No
for forks Yes
for forms Yes
for forming Yes
for forking Yes
fort for No
fort fork Yes
fort form Yes
fort forms No
forming forming Yes
forming formed No
forming forms Yes

one four three sevens hundred thousand? No
to one four three sevens hundred? No
to one four three? No
three sevens four hundred? No
to three sevens hundred? No
to four sevens thousand? Yes
three sevens to one? Yes
three three hundred thousand? Yes
four four hundred sevens? Yes
to to one three? No
to one one four? Yes
to to three four? Yes

333 4444 55555 666666 7777777 88888888? No
22 333 4444 55555 666666 7777777? No
22 333 4444 55555? No
5555 666666 4444 7777777? No
22 55555 666666 7777777? No
22 4444 666666 88888888? No
55555 666666 22 33? No
55555 55555 7777777 88888888? No
4444 4444 7777777 666666? No
22 22 333 4444? No
22 333 333 4444? No
22 22 55555 4444? No

Yeah, I know... sorry? Yes

sssss ddddd yyyyyyy hhhhhhhh? Yes
ffff oooo ppppppp tttttt? Yes
ll ww mmm aaaaa? No
nn qqq eee rrrr? Yes
zz xx ccccc vvvv? Yes

I need more answers Yes
I need more answers. Yes

22 22 No
more more more more Yes
repetition repetition repetition repetition Yes
because because because because Yes
why not why not Yes
just checking just checking Yes
test 1 2 3 test 1 2 3 Yes

three sevens to one Yes
three sevens four hundred No

(just to verify again these can't be right!) No

Ok so Yes
here have Yes
many question Yes
which I Yes
think ought Yes
to come Yes
out yes Yes

and here No
questions that No
do not No
I hope No

I have No
the same No
idea, but No
I think Yes
I am No
wrong, however Yes
I forgot No
what my Yes
second idea Yes
was. So No
now I'm No
sad. I Yes
can't end No
these with No
an even Yes
amount of Yes

Put what in spoilers? No

rather, the answer to that if infang answers. Yes
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« Reply #280 on: March 11, 2019, 06:18:56 am »

I think?
I might know that?
But maybe I wrong?
Am Me genius am?
I doubt it lots?

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« Reply #281 on: March 11, 2019, 06:27:50 am »

Am I allowed to just pop in here like this or do I have to sign up or something.

Go ahead
Have fun with us
You're a smart guy
You can help, right?
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« Reply #282 on: March 11, 2019, 06:41:58 am »

I think? Yes
I might know that? Yes
But maybe I wrong? Yes
Am Me genius am? Yes
I doubt it lots? Yes

Am I allowed to just pop in here like this or do I have to sign up or something. Yes
And yes, you can pop in. Posting is signing up. If you become the oracle, please make sure you are familiar with the setup; there are some restrictions/advice on the type of rules allowed.

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Have fun with us No
You're a smart guy Yes
You can help, right? No
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« Reply #283 on: March 11, 2019, 06:53:39 am »


Am I allowed to just pop in here like this or do I have to sign up or something. Yes


Double checking that woulda been nice?

I may need to double check something myself?

I’m closer
Than I would have
Thought I
Woulda imagined

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« Reply #284 on: March 11, 2019, 07:02:42 am »

Double checking that woulda been nice? Yes

I may need to double check something myself? No

I’m closer Yes
Than I would have Yes
Thought I Yes
Woulda imagined Yes

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« Reply #285 on: March 11, 2019, 07:06:31 am »

Does adjacency matter a single mite?
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I think I’m on the verge of making a guess.

I just need a
Few things clarified beforehand
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Does adjacency matter a single mite? Yes

I think I’m on the verge of making a guess. No

I just need a No
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I think Im on the verge of making a guess
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I think Im on the verge of making a guess No
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I a just need
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Same clarity makes no difference after this point

I’m sleepy so I will nappy nap now, Hopefully this will wait for me.
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« Reply #293 on: March 11, 2019, 04:02:47 pm »

Ok so
Ok so Ok so
Ok so ok so
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« Reply #294 on: March 11, 2019, 04:09:05 pm »

la la la la la la la la la la la la la!
lalala lalala lalala lalala!
lalalala lalalala lalalala lalala!
lala lala lala lala lala lala!
lalal lalal lalal lalal!
lalal lalal lalal lalal lalal!
lalalalal lalalalal lalalalal lalalalal!
lalalalalalal lalalalalalal lalalalalalal lalalalalalal!
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« Reply #295 on: March 11, 2019, 05:39:24 pm »

I think
I know half of what it is easily
Because I can predict

What is a yes
And what is a no

But first

Testing testing
Testings testings
Testings testing
Testing testing testings testing
Testing testings testing testings
Testing testing testings testings
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« Reply #296 on: March 11, 2019, 05:52:57 pm »

Guess: if it's even, the number of letters (including question mark) must not be prime
This could be completely wrong, but it worked for a bunch of them.
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« Reply #297 on: March 11, 2019, 09:39:26 pm »

I understand, and it's hard being the person with the rule when it all goes quiet. Like, my last rule had a gap of about a month with no questions. I knew it wasn't too hard, but had I just made it too boring for people to want to play? Forum silence is hard. Really glad when you turned up and solved it!
I realise that the rules in the OP say 72/96 hours and the game's over. Maybe we should be ready to enforce that. But probably with a 'prod' first, so that folk can get back on to it if they want to, like in this case.

I think this is a really important point that's sort of hard to understand if you haven't been the rule master before. It's easy to think of the master as just being a black box that gives you the information you request whenever you feel like it, but my experience has been that I spend the whole time wondering if I've made the rule too easy, too hard, too boring, etc. I think the reality is that long silences usually have nothing to do with the rule itself, they just sort of happen at random if everyone gets busy at the same time and then forgets about the thread, but I think that also makes it stressful for the master.

So maybe the solution is to just encourage anyone passing by who notices that the thread has been dead for a while to bump it, even if they have no "good" questions to ask?
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« Reply #298 on: March 12, 2019, 05:37:30 am »

Ok so Yes
Ok so Ok so Yes
Ok so ok so Yes

la la la la la la la la la la la la la! Yes
lalala lalala lalala lalala! Yes
lalalala lalalala lalalala lalala! Yes
lala lala lala lala lala lala! Yes
lalal lalal lalal lalal! Yes
lalal lalal lalal lalal lalal! Yes
lalalalal lalalalal lalalalal lalalalal! Yes
lalalalalalal lalalalalalal lalalalalalal lalalalalalal! Yes

I think Yes
I know half of what it is easily Yes
Because I can predict Yes

What is a yes No
And what is a no Yes

But first Yes

Testing testing Yes
Testings testings Yes
Testings testing No
Testing testing testings testing Yes
Testing testings testing testings No
Testing testing testings testings No
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« Reply #299 on: March 12, 2019, 05:43:07 am »

Guess: if it's even, the number of letters (including question mark) must not be prime
This could be completely wrong, but it worked for a bunch of them.
Incorrect Counterexample:
Is an infangthief dangerous? No
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« Reply #300 on: March 12, 2019, 05:52:33 am »

Another page-top, time for the full list.
List of all questions which have even numbers of words. "Odd number of words => yes" has been previously established.

Let a brother play with his punctuation, man. No
It must be intriguing and exciting, or else...? No

Sweeet, thanks! Yes
A lot of things need to be learned: like which questions pass? Yes
________.....? No
? No
??? No
! No

let there be light.? Yes

? No
test test? Yes
test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test test test? Yes

let there ? be light Yes
in heaven to ? divide Yes
? the day ? from the Yes
it be ? for ???!! signs!!? for s!easons Yes

of this? Yes
because of? No
...? No
Maybe because of this? No
Maybe...because of? Yes

Does it have to do with the whole sentence or just part of it? No
Will this help us find out? Yes

this of because Maybe? No
This of because maybe? No
Of because maybe this? No
of because? No

A Lot Of very --- questions are? Yes
But; hmm? Yes

of because? No
of of because because? No
maybe because? Yes
of maybe? No
of maybe maybe because? Yes

m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s? Yes
Maybe because of this hello there my name is insert name here? Yes

because because of of? No
because because because of of of? No
of of? Yes
because because? Yes
because because because because of of of of? No

of of? Yes
because of of of? Yes

more speculatively No
maybe these will all No
resolve differently? Yes

then again maybe not No
still let some ambiguity inside Neapolitans No
when words fail let randomness win! Yes

now finally Yes
some actual Yes
no things Yes
Zen Micro! Yes
seven never laughs cold Yes

maybe because? Yes
s o m e t h i n g s o m e t h i n g? Yes
m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s ? Yes
maybe tends to miss. No
agdjqry of? No

Does that mean I need to count how many letters are in each question before asking? Yes
maybedoes ntwork? No

It's the other way around, wow.. Yes
And it's words not letters I feel stupid. No
Maybe...because of...this...? Yes
abcef ouse? No
______________.... is one word, right? Or is it zero? No
Hmmmmm... I ran out of things to do. No
I need more answers. Yes

Well, before things did "Yes", now they do "No". Awkward. No
maybe o? Yes
ayb o? Yes
may o? Yes
may f? Yes
y f? Yes
letters letters? Yes
yof yof? Yes
things; things;? Yes
abc, abc,? Yes
Even: Even:? Yes
A lot of things need to be which: like learned questions pass? Yes
like learned questions pass? No
like which questions pass? No
A lot of things need to be which? No
A lot of things? No
need to be learned? Yes
lot of? No
A things? No
to learned? No
questions pass? No

because because of of No
because because of of?? No
because because because of of of No
because because because of of of?? No
of of Yes
of of?? Yes
because because Yes
because because?? Yes
because because because because of of of of No
because because because because of of of of?? No

repetition repetition Yes
of of Yes
words words Yes
to to Yes
verify verfiy Yes
suspicions suspicions Yes

for for Yes
for form No
for fort No
for fork No
for forks Yes
for forms Yes
for forming Yes
for forking Yes
fort for No
fort fork Yes
fort form Yes
fort forms No
forming forming Yes
forming formed No
forming forms Yes

one four three sevens hundred thousand? No
to one four three sevens hundred? No
to one four three? No
three sevens four hundred? No
to three sevens hundred? No
to four sevens thousand? Yes
three sevens to one? Yes
three three hundred thousand? Yes
four four hundred sevens? Yes
to to one three? No
to one one four? Yes
to to three four? Yes

333 4444 55555 666666 7777777 88888888? No
22 333 4444 55555 666666 7777777? No
22 333 4444 55555? No
5555 666666 4444 7777777? No
22 55555 666666 7777777? No
22 4444 666666 88888888? No
55555 666666 22 33? No
55555 55555 7777777 88888888? No
4444 4444 7777777 666666? No
22 22 333 4444? No
22 333 333 4444? No
22 22 55555 4444? No

Yeah, I know... sorry? Yes

sssss ddddd yyyyyyy hhhhhhhh? Yes
ffff oooo ppppppp tttttt? Yes
ll ww mmm aaaaa? No
nn qqq eee rrrr? Yes
zz xx ccccc vvvv? Yes

I need more answers Yes
I need more answers. Yes

22 22 No
more more more more Yes
repetition repetition repetition repetition Yes
because because because because Yes
why not why not Yes
just checking just checking Yes
test 1 2 3 test 1 2 3 Yes

three sevens to one Yes
three sevens four hundred No

(just to verify again these can't be right!) No

Ok so Yes
here have Yes
many question Yes
which I Yes
think ought Yes
to come Yes
out yes Yes

and here No
questions that No
do not No
I hope No

I have No
the same No
idea, but No
I think Yes
I am No
wrong, however Yes
I forgot No
what my Yes
second idea Yes
was. So No
now I'm No
sad. I Yes
can't end No
these with No
an even Yes
amount of Yes

Put what in spoilers? No

rather, the answer to that if infang answers. Yes

I think? Yes
I might know that? Yes
But maybe I wrong? Yes
Am Me genius am? Yes
I doubt it lots? Yes

Go ahead No
Have fun with us No
You're a smart guy Yes
You can help, right? No

Double checking that woulda been nice? Yes

I may need to double check something myself? No

I’m closer Yes
Than I would have Yes
Thought I Yes
Woulda imagined Yes

This incorrect No

Does adjacency matter a single mite? Yes

I think I’m on the verge of making a guess. No

I just need a No
Few things clarified beforehand No

I think Im on the verge of making a guess No

I a just need No
Few clarified things beforehand No

Same clarity makes no difference after this point Yes

I’m sleepy so I will nappy nap now, Hopefully this will wait for me. No

Ok so Yes
Ok so Ok so Yes
Ok so ok so Yes

lalala lalala lalala lalala! Yes
lalalala lalalala lalalala lalala! Yes
lala lala lala lala lala lala! Yes
lalal lalal lalal lalal! Yes
lalalalal lalalalal lalalalal lalalalal! Yes
lalalalalalal lalalalalalal lalalalalalal lalalalalalal! Yes

I think Yes
I know half of what it is easily Yes
Because I can predict Yes

What is a yes No

But first Yes

Testing testing Yes
Testings testings Yes
Testings testing No
Testing testing testings testing Yes
Testing testings testing testings No
Testing testing testings testings No

Guess: if it's even, the number of letters (including question mark) must not be prime
Incorrect Counterexample:
Is an infangthief dangerous? No
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« Reply #301 on: March 12, 2019, 06:26:48 am »

Guess: if the median is an interger.

I can specify it but...it's this and you know it
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« Reply #302 on: March 12, 2019, 06:30:44 am »

Let's specify...first you order the words of a question (words have letters, that's all you're counting) by size, say, shortest first. Then you go to the middle 2, add their letters and divide by 2. If said number is an integer (or if the original sum is even) it passes. Thus all odd word questions pass, since you add a word to itself.
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« Reply #303 on: March 12, 2019, 06:36:01 am »

Guess: if the median is an interger.
Correct! We have a winner. Median number of letters per word exists and is an integer.

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« Reply #304 on: March 12, 2019, 06:39:41 am »

Having played Zendo before with this rule helped   :P

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« Reply #305 on: March 12, 2019, 07:20:46 am »

I have a rule
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« Reply #306 on: March 12, 2019, 09:01:30 am »

Has your rule got anything to do with leopards?
Their spots?
Their tails?
The things they eat?
The habitats in which they live?
Does it make any difference if we're referring here to leopards which live in Africa or Asia?
What about snow leopards?
Are there more similarities between leopards and snow leopards than between two arbitrarily chosen species of the Panthera genus?
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« Reply #307 on: March 12, 2019, 09:02:04 am »

Is it a rule?
Rule?
A?
AA?
ABC?
123?
bla bla bla bla?
Those are some short words but maybe long words will work better because sometimes that happens and let's see if it's the case?
Or maybe this long word will work but it also could be a little difficult to parse because sometimes long words are like that and if so sorry?
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« Reply #308 on: March 12, 2019, 09:26:39 am »

Has your rule got anything to do with leopards? Yes
Their spots? No
Their tails? No
The things they eat? Yes
The habitats in which they live? No
Does it make any difference if we're referring here to leopards which live in Africa or Asia? No
What about snow leopards? Yes
Are there more similarities between leopards and snow leopards than between two arbitrarily chosen species of the Panthera genus? No
Is it a rule? Yes
Rule? Yes
A? Yes
AA? Yes
ABC? Yes
123? Yes
bla bla bla bla? Yes
Those are some short words but maybe long words will work better because sometimes that happens and let's see if it's the case? Yes
Or maybe this long word will work but it also could be a little difficult to parse because sometimes long words are like that and if so sorry? No
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« Reply #309 on: March 12, 2019, 09:51:02 am »

Theirspots?
Theirtails?
Fromwhaticantellhowlongitisdoesntmakemuchofadifference?
Exceptmaybesinglewordsaremaybeconsistentlyyes?
Butwedonthaveenoughdataforthat?
Samplesizetoosmall?
Sorry if this is too hard to parse...
Well, mostly. I can't figure out the rules if I don't have data, so not really.
Yes, those were both questions. (and so is this.)
Maybe having other punctuation at the end does something, but maybe it doesn't!
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« Reply #310 on: March 12, 2019, 10:25:28 am »

Theirspots? Yes
Theirtails? Yes
Fromwhaticantellhowlongitisdoesntmakemuchofadifference? Yes
Exceptmaybesinglewordsaremaybeconsistentlyyes? Yes
Butwedonthaveenoughdataforthat? Yes
Samplesizetoosmall? Yes
Sorry if this is too hard to parse... No
Well, mostly. I can't figure out the rules if I don't have data, so not really. Yes
Yes, those were both questions. (and so is this.) Yes
Maybe having other punctuation at the end does something, but maybe it doesn't! Yes
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« Reply #311 on: March 12, 2019, 11:18:05 am »

Maybe
Number of
Words has something
To do with it
Given that all questions with
One word seem to be yes.
a
a a
a a a
a a a a
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a a a a a a
a a a a a a a
a a a a a a a a
a a a a a a a a a
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« Reply #312 on: March 12, 2019, 12:35:20 pm »

Guess: if the median is an interger.
Correct! We have a winner. Median number of letters per word exists and is an integer.

Your turn :)

I knew it was going to be something simple that was about the length somehow. I had figured out that odd numbered sentences are always true, and two-word sentences are true iff they have the same parity. But that rule just refused to generalize to more than 2 words!

I think it was a fine rule, though.

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« Reply #313 on: March 12, 2019, 12:51:09 pm »

Maybe Yes
Number of No
Words has something No
To do with it Yes
Given that all questions with Yes
One word seem to be yes. No
a Yes
a a No
a a a No
a a a a Yes
a a a a a No
a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a a Yes
a a a a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a a a a a a No

I knew it was going to be something simple that was about the length somehow. I had figured out that odd numbered sentences are always true, and two-word sentences are true iff they have the same parity. But that rule just refused to generalize to more than 2 words! Yes

I think it was a fine rule, though. No
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« Reply #314 on: March 12, 2019, 01:18:03 pm »

Guess: either the number of words, or the number of letters has to be a square number.

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« Reply #315 on: March 12, 2019, 01:22:08 pm »

Guess: either the number of words, or the number of letters has to be a square number.

You are an absolute god. Absolutely correct! Did you actually count the letters?
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« Reply #316 on: March 12, 2019, 01:28:34 pm »

Thanks :-) I have an awesome program installed that replaces the default notepad. Among other things, it shows me column numbers. So all I had to do was copy it in there and delete the whitespaces.

The a a a a questions made it possible. 1 - 4 - 9 was instantly noticeable.

I have a rule.

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« Reply #317 on: March 12, 2019, 01:31:32 pm »

Using programs is obviously cheating
But then again, manually counting is worse
Am I supposed to make questions?
I wish I was master for at least one day
But now I can ask things!
Like, am I supposed to ask questions?
And if so, which?
These?
I sure hope so.
Does 1 exist?
What about 0?
Philosophy is very useless, am I right?
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« Reply #318 on: March 12, 2019, 01:35:23 pm »

Using programs is obviously cheating No
But then again, manually counting is worse No
Am I supposed to make questions? No
I wish I was master for at least one day No
But now I can ask things! No
Like, am I supposed to ask questions? No
And if so, which? No
These? Yes
I sure hope so. No
Does 1 exist? Yes
What about 0? No
Philosophy is very useless, am I right? No
Thingsexistsometimes. Yes

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« Reply #319 on: March 12, 2019, 01:35:48 pm »

A n d s o m e d o n ' t  No

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« Reply #320 on: March 12, 2019, 01:42:59 pm »

Hmmmmm
What?
Are you kidding me?
1
2
3
4
11
22
33
44
111
333
4444
55555
one
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one one one one
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« Reply #321 on: March 12, 2019, 01:53:57 pm »

Hmmmmm Yes
What? Yes
Are you kidding me? No
1 Yes
2 Yes
3 Yes
4 Yes
11 Yes
22 Yes
33 Yes
44 Yes
111 Yes
333 Yes
4444 Yes
55555 Yes
one Yes
four Yes
one one one one No
four four four four No
three three three No
three three three three three No

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« Reply #322 on: March 12, 2019, 04:28:19 pm »

Is it?
Can it?
Does it?
Would it?
Should it?
Might it?
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« Reply #323 on: March 12, 2019, 04:36:30 pm »

Yay, my questions helped last time!
I think I would have noticed the 1 - 4 - 9 square numbers thing too if I had gotten here in time.
I
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Let's try what I did last time:
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a a a a
a a a a a
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« Reply #324 on: March 12, 2019, 04:44:11 pm »

Using programs is obviously cheating No
But then again, manually counting is worse No
Am I supposed to make questions? No
I wish I was master for at least one day No
But now I can ask things! No
Like, am I supposed to ask questions? No
And if so, which? No
These? Yes
I sure hope so. No
Does 1 exist? Yes
What about 0? No
Philosophy is very useless, am I right? No
Thingsexistsometimes. Yes

Hmmmmm Yes
What? Yes
Are you kidding me? No
1 Yes
2 Yes
3 Yes
4 Yes
11 Yes
22 Yes
33 Yes
44 Yes
111 Yes
333 Yes
4444 Yes
55555 Yes
one Yes
four Yes
one one one one No
four four four four No
three three three No
three three three three three No

Is it? Yes
Can it? No
Does it? Yes
Would it? Yes
Should it? Yes
Might it? Yes

Yay, my questions helped last time! No
I think I would have noticed the 1 - 4 - 9 square numbers thing too if I had gotten here in time. No
I Yes
sense Yes
another Yes
one Yes
word Yes
is Yes
always Yes
yes Yes
thing Yes
here. Yes
Let's try what I did last time: No
a Yes
a a No
a a a No
a a a a No
a a a a a No
a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a  No
a a a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a a a a No

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« Reply #325 on: March 12, 2019, 04:54:18 pm »

Is
Can
Would
Does
Should
Might
The above should all come out as yes.
What does Can have or lack that the others don't?

Here
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« Reply #326 on: March 12, 2019, 05:05:31 pm »

1 1?
Ban it?
Fan it?
lel it?
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« Reply #327 on: March 12, 2019, 05:18:44 pm »

It also seems like

Lines with a #

Get teases 2

I dunno why I am spelling out my thought proccess
It’s like I think this is co-op

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« Reply #328 on: March 12, 2019, 07:00:18 pm »

Is Yes
Can Yes
Would Yes
Does Yes
Should Yes
Might Yes
The above should all come out as yes. No
What does Can have or lack that the others don't? No

Here Yes
are Yes
some Yes
yes Yes
questions Yes

and and No
here here No
are are No
some some No
no no No
questions questions No

1 1? Yes
Ban it? No
Fan it? No
lel it? No

It also seems like No

Lines with a # No

Get teases 2 Yes

I dunno why I am spelling out my thought proccess No
It’s like I think this is co-op No

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« Reply #329 on: March 12, 2019, 10:33:36 pm »

I dunno why I am spelling out my thought proccess
It’s like I think this is co-op

That's how I've been treating it.
It makes me feel like I contributed even if I don't guess it.
For example, I was pleased when my a's helped silverspawn guess MiX's rule.
You can choose how to treat it, though.

If you like, silverspawn, you can treat those all as questions.

Does 1 count as a character for these purposes?

1 Do?
1 These?
1 All
1 Count?
1 As?
1 One?
1 Word?
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« Reply #330 on: March 12, 2019, 10:35:39 pm »

1 All?
Apparently I didn't include the question mark?

Is it
Can it
Does it
Should it
Would it
Might it

Maybe the question mark affects things, not sure
Maybe the question mark affects things, not sure.
Maybe the question mark affects things, not sure?
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« Reply #331 on: March 13, 2019, 04:11:01 am »

That's how I've been treating it. No
It makes me feel like I contributed even if I don't guess it. No
For example, I was pleased when my a's helped silverspawn guess MiX's rule. No
You can choose how to treat it, though. No

If you like, silverspawn, you can treat those all as questions. No

(everything must be treated as a question! No)

Does 1 count as a character for these purposes? No

1 Do? Yes
1 These? Yes
1 All Yes
1 Count? Yes
1 As? Yes
1 One? Yes
1 Word? Yes
? Yes

Get teases 2 Yes

1 All? Yes
Apparently I didn't include the question mark? No

Is it No
Can it Yes
Does it Yes
Should it Yes
Would it Yes
Might it Yes

Maybe the question mark affects things, not sure No
Maybe the question mark affects things, not sure. No
Maybe the question mark affects things, not sure? No

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« Reply #332 on: March 13, 2019, 09:07:25 am »

Got it!
Well, not quite
S#o#m#e symbols are interesting
Something strange about 0
Something strange about 0?
What about 0
What about 0?
What 0
What 0?
What about 1?
What about 8?
What about l8?
What about l8ers?
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« Reply #333 on: March 13, 2019, 10:15:27 am »

Got it! No
Well, not quite No
S#o#m#e symbols are interesting No
Something strange about 0 No
Something strange about 0? No
What about 0 No
What about 0? No
What 0 Yes
What 0? Yes
What about 1? No
What about 8? No
What about l8? No
What about l8ers? No

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« Reply #334 on: March 13, 2019, 02:16:48 pm »

Just to quickly check, given most other things aren't behaving this way:

Is it
Is it?
Can it
Can it?
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« Reply #335 on: March 13, 2019, 02:38:18 pm »

Using programs is obviously cheating No
But then again, manually counting is worse No
Am I supposed to make questions? No
I wish I was master for at least one day No
But now I can ask things! No
Like, am I supposed to ask questions? No
And if so, which? No
These? Yes
I sure hope so. No
Does 1 exist? Yes
What about 0? No
Philosophy is very useless, am I right? No
Thingsexistsometimes. Yes

Hmmmmm Yes
What? Yes
Are you kidding me? No
1 Yes
2 Yes
3 Yes
4 Yes
11 Yes
22 Yes
33 Yes
44 Yes
111 Yes
333 Yes
4444 Yes
55555 Yes
one Yes
four Yes
one one one one No
four four four four No
three three three No
three three three three three No

Is it? Yes
Can it? No
Does it? Yes
Would it? Yes
Should it? Yes
Might it? Yes

Yay, my questions helped last time! No
I think I would have noticed the 1 - 4 - 9 square numbers thing too if I had gotten here in time. No
I Yes
sense Yes
another Yes
one Yes
word Yes
is Yes
always Yes
yes Yes
thing Yes
here. Yes
Let's try what I did last time: No
a Yes
a a No
a a a No
a a a a No
a a a a a No
a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a  No
a a a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a a a a No

Is Yes
Can Yes
Would Yes
Does Yes
Should Yes
Might Yes
The above should all come out as yes. No
What does Can have or lack that the others don't? No

Here Yes
are Yes
some Yes
yes Yes
questions Yes

and and No
here here No
are are No
some some No
no no No
questions questions No

1 1? Yes
Ban it? No
Fan it? No
lel it? No

It also seems like No

Lines with a # No

Get teases 2 Yes

I dunno why I am spelling out my thought proccess No
It’s like I think this is co-op No

That's how I've been treating it. No
It makes me feel like I contributed even if I don't guess it. No
For example, I was pleased when my a's helped silverspawn guess MiX's rule. No
You can choose how to treat it, though. No

If you like, silverspawn, you can treat those all as questions. No

(everything must be treated as a question! No)

Does 1 count as a character for these purposes? No

1 Do? Yes
1 These? Yes
1 All Yes
1 Count? Yes
1 As? Yes
1 One? Yes
1 Word? Yes
? Yes

Get teases 2 Yes

1 All? Yes
Apparently I didn't include the question mark? No

Is it No
Can it Yes
Does it Yes
Should it Yes
Would it Yes
Might it Yes

Maybe the question mark affects things, not sure No
Maybe the question mark affects things, not sure. No
Maybe the question mark affects things, not sure? No

Got it! No
Well, not quite No
S#o#m#e symbols are interesting No
Something strange about 0 No
Something strange about 0? No
What about 0 No
What about 0? No
What 0 Yes
What 0? Yes
What about 1? No
What about 8? No
What about l8? No
What about l8ers? No

Is it No
Is it? Yes
Can it Yes
Can it? No

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« Reply #336 on: March 13, 2019, 03:07:37 pm »

What about 0
What about 1
What about 2
What about 3
What about 4
What about 5
What about 6
What about 7
What about 8
What about 9
What about
What about?
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« Reply #337 on: March 13, 2019, 03:08:38 pm »

What about 0 No
What about 1 No
What about 2 No
What about 3 No
What about 4 No
What about 5 No
What about 6 No
What about 7 No
What about 8 No
What about 9 No
What about Yes
What about? Yes

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« Reply #338 on: March 13, 2019, 03:10:16 pm »

Aaarrrgghhh everything fits
except with #s

Both yeses?
And that?
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« Reply #339 on: March 13, 2019, 03:12:04 pm »

Something strange about 0
Something strange about 1
Something strange about 2
Something strange about 3
Something strange about 4
Something strange about 5
Something strange about 6
Something strange about 7
Something strange about 8
Something strange about 9

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« Reply #340 on: March 13, 2019, 03:17:30 pm »

Does 1 exist? Yes
Something strange about 0 No
Something strange about 0? No
What about l8ers? No

I have a guess but these four are the only ones that don't work with it.
(That's a no?)
So frustrating.
(That's a yes?)

Can I predict that this question will be a no?
And yes?
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« Reply #341 on: March 13, 2019, 03:40:02 pm »

Aaarrrgghhh everything fits No
except with #s No

Both yeses? Yes
And that? Yes

Something strange about 0 No
Something strange about 1 No
Something strange about 2 No
Something strange about 3 No
Something strange about 4 No
Something strange about 5 No
Something strange about 6 No
Something strange about 7 No
Something strange about 8 No
Something strange about 9 No

I have a guess but these four are the only ones that don't work with it. No
(That's a no?) Yes
So frustrating. Yes
(That's a yes?) Yes

Can I predict that this question will be a no? No
And yes? Yes

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« Reply #342 on: March 13, 2019, 04:12:18 pm »

That introduced a bunch more that didn't fit with my guess.

My guess had been that the number of characters in each word (including '?') had to be in either ascending or descending order.

It actually works for most of the answers here.

But then I found four (literally only four) that didn't work.

And now I have a few more that don't work with it.
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« Reply #343 on: March 13, 2019, 05:02:55 pm »

That introduced a bunch more that didn't fit with my guess. No

My guess had been that the number of characters in each word (including '?') had to be in either ascending or descending order. No

It actually works for most of the answers here. No

But then I found four (literally only four) that didn't work. No

And now I have a few more that don't work with it. No

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« Reply #344 on: March 13, 2019, 11:38:58 pm »

It hurts
To knows
Hi shurt
So wonkt

Does it matter
Roet is dattem
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« Reply #345 on: March 14, 2019, 12:08:25 am »

If it ends up being a coincidence that so many of these matched the other rule, and there is no logical reason for it, I will be somewhat irked.

I don't understand numbers.
I thought I understood them, but I don't.
In this rule, I mean. I'm fairly good at mathematics.
There really is something strange about 0.

1
3
48848
48,848
1,729
1729
10^3+9^3=12^3+1^3=1729=thebestnumber
What is your favorite number?
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« Reply #346 on: March 14, 2019, 02:56:04 am »

Just joining this, hoping I can contribute.
I feel numbers on the edges might be particularly weird.
1
1 a 1?
1 aa 111?
a 1 a?
a 00 aa?
11 won one.

What did 0
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« Reply #347 on: March 14, 2019, 03:46:00 am »

It hurts Yes
To knows Yes
Hi shurt Yes
So wonkt Yes

Does it matter No
Roet is dattem No

If it ends up being a coincidence that so many of these matched the other rule, and there is no logical reason for it, I will be somewhat irked. No

I don't understand numbers. No
I thought I understood them, but I don't. No
In this rule, I mean. I'm fairly good at mathematics. No
There really is something strange about 0. No

1 Yes
3 Yes
48848 Yes
48,848 Yes
1,729 Yes
1729 Yes
10^3+9^3=12^3+1^3=1729=thebestnumber Yes
What is your favorite number? No

Just joining this, hoping I can contribute. No
I feel numbers on the edges might be particularly weird. No
1 Yes
1 a 1? No
1 aa 111? Yes
a 1 a? No
a 00 aa? No
11 won one. No

What did 0 No
ever do? Yes

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« Reply #348 on: March 14, 2019, 05:03:51 am »

It seems like questions with lots of words tend to get a 'no'.
But I wonder if I try really hard if I might be able to make a long questionwhichgetsayesnowwaitamomentthat'snotaquestionasitstandsmaybeifIinflectmyvoicealittleattheendIcanmakeitintoaquestion?
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« Reply #349 on: March 14, 2019, 05:16:30 am »

Actually, I think that this wonderful word "questionwhichgetsayesnowwaitamomentthat'snotaquestionasitstandsmaybeifIinflectmyvoicealittleattheendIcanmakeitintoaquestion" is so useful that I could get some yeses just by sticking into the middle of almost any question, am I right?
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« Reply #350 on: March 14, 2019, 06:03:06 am »

Guess: More than half of the characters in the question form a single word <==> yes
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« Reply #351 on: March 14, 2019, 08:14:15 am »

It seems like questions with lots of words tend to get a 'no'. No
But I wonder if I try really hard if I might be able to make a long questionwhichgetsayesnowwaitamomentthat'snotaquestionasitstandsmaybeifIinflectmyvoicealittleattheendIcanmakeitintoaquestion? Yes

Actually, I think that this wonderful word "questionwhichgetsayesnowwaitamomentthat'snotaquestionasitstandsmaybeifIinflectmyvoicealittleattheendIcanmakeitintoaquestion" is so useful that I could get some yeses just by sticking into the middle of almost any question, am I right? Too lazy to count

Guess: More than half of the characters in the question form a single word <==> yes No

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« Reply #352 on: March 14, 2019, 08:14:37 am »

Yup, correct! :D well done.

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« Reply #353 on: March 14, 2019, 08:16:01 am »

Where a word is defined as any string of symbols separated by two of {whitespace, end of question, start of question}

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« Reply #354 on: March 14, 2019, 08:50:58 am »

Funny how we got hung up on "What about 0?"
I think after seeing the answers to one- and two-word questions it seemed easy to generalise in many (incorrect) ways.

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« Reply #355 on: March 14, 2019, 10:03:35 am »

I’m on the case

Time to make random gibberish

Good range

If

Random crap.
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I’m on the case Yes
Time to make random gibberish No
Good range Yes
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Even words
Seems to be good
But maybe it was just chance?
Time to find out if I’m just lucky.
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Even words Yes
Seems to be good No
But maybe it was just chance? No
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Odd
Might work too
I just did it wrong
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I’m on the case Yes
Time to make random gibberish No
Good range Yes
If No
Random crap. Yes

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Seems to be good No
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I enjoy looking at
Yes and
No as the responses
To my various statements
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Do you know what I mean?
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Do you know what I mean?

No, I do not.
Why are we doing even sentences?
Makes no sense.
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I enjoy looking at Yes
Yes and Yes
No as the responses Yes
To my various statements No

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« Reply #365 on: March 14, 2019, 01:44:14 pm »

math
math math
math math math
math math math math
math?
math math?
math math math?
math math math math?
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Relaxing in basins at the end of inlets terminates the endless tests from the box?
A short brimless felt hat barely blocks out the sound of a Celtic violin?
Signage indicating endowments for industrial diamonds annoy filth-spreading genies?

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Waltz, bad nymph, for quick jigs vex!

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Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.

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I’m on the case Yes
Time to make random gibberish No
Good range Yes
If No
Random crap. Yes

Even words Yes
Seems to be good No
But maybe it was just chance? No
Time to find out if I’m just lucky. Yes

Odd No
Might work too No
I just did it wrong No

I enjoy looking at Yes
Yes and Yes
No as the responses Yes
To my various statements No

Do you know what I mean? Yes

No, I do not. Yes
Why are we doing even sentences? No
Makes no sense. Yes
At all. No
Vicious words. No
Smile plox No

math No
math math No
math math math No
math math math math No
math? No
math math? No
math math math? No
math math math math? No
EVA No

Relaxing in basins at the end of inlets terminates the endless tests from the box? Yes
A short brimless felt hat barely blocks out the sound of a Celtic violin? No
Signage indicating endowments for industrial diamonds annoy filth-spreading genies? Yes

Waltz, bad nymph, for quick jigs vex! Yes
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. Yes
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Sphinx of black quarts, judge my vow!

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Sphinx of black quarts, judge my vow! Yes
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yo, dig out, amen
are you doing this?
are words exist?
go out and get what's mine?
yy oo ??r53?? attt???!!9 aholy?
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d?

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ghasp!
juck!
plop?
quack!
wax!
zone!

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See in a ship! Short stories! The corner on Lylac is NO!

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I’m on the case Yes
Time to make random gibberish No
Good range Yes
If No
Random crap. Yes

Even words Yes
Seems to be good No
But maybe it was just chance? No
Time to find out if I’m just lucky. Yes

Odd No
Might work too No
I just did it wrong No

I enjoy looking at Yes
Yes and Yes
No as the responses Yes
To my various statements No

Do you know what I mean? Yes

No, I do not. Yes
Why are we doing even sentences? No
Makes no sense. Yes
At all. No
Vicious words. No
Smile plox No

math No
math math No
math math math No
math math math math No
math? No
math math? No
math math math? No
math math math math? No
EVA No

Relaxing in basins at the end of inlets terminates the endless tests from the box? Yes
A short brimless felt hat barely blocks out the sound of a Celtic violin? No
Signage indicating endowments for industrial diamonds annoy filth-spreading genies? Yes

Waltz, bad nymph, for quick jigs vex! Yes
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. Yes
Sphinx of black quarts, judge my vow! Yes

yo, dig out, amen No
are you doing this? Yes
are words exist? No
go out and get what's mine? Yes
yy oo ??r53?? attt???!!9 aholy? No

d? No
ghasp! No
juck! No
plop? No
quack! No
wax! No
zone! Yes

See in a ship! Short stories! The corner on Lylac is NO! Yes
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« Reply #377 on: March 15, 2019, 05:30:09 am »

A
B
C
D
E
F
G
H
I
J
K
L
M
N
O
P
Q
R
S
T
I
V
W
X
Y
Z

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A No
B No
C No
D No
E No
F No
G No
H No
I No
J No
K No
L No
M No
N Yes
O No
P No
Q No
R No
S No
T No
I No
V No
W No
X No
Y No
Z No

Sorry about that... No
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« Reply #379 on: March 15, 2019, 06:04:03 am »

AA
BB
CC
DD
EE
FF
GG
HH
II
JJ
KK
LL
MM
NN
OO
PP
QQ
RR
SS
TT
UU
VV
WE
XX
YY
ZZ
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« Reply #380 on: March 15, 2019, 06:10:50 am »

AA No
BB No
CC No
DD No
EE No
FF No
GG No
HH No
II No
JJ No
KK No
LL No
MM No
NN Yes
OO No
PP No
QQ No
RR No
SS No
TT No
UU No
VV No
WE No
XX No
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« Reply #381 on: March 15, 2019, 06:44:53 am »

I've been trying to get at a similar test with more elegance, but I guess the direct way works too?

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Sound?
Violin?

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« Reply #383 on: March 15, 2019, 06:56:49 am »

I've been trying to get at a similar test with more elegance, but I guess the direct way works too?

Yeah, I could tell, I got bored.

NAAAA
ANAAA
AANAA
AAANA
AAAAN
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« Reply #384 on: March 15, 2019, 07:02:59 am »

Dominion Online?
Donifion Offline?

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Dofifiof Offlife?

Damf there are mafy fs if Dofifiof!

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I've been trying to get at a similar test with more elegance, but I guess the direct way works too? Yes

Sound? Yes
Violin? Yes

Yeah, I could tell, I got bored. No

NAAAA Yes
ANAAA Yes
AANAA Yes
AAANA Yes
AAAAN Yes

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Donifion Offline? Yes
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« Reply #387 on: March 15, 2019, 07:12:48 am »

Time to make random
Time to random gibberish
random
make random gibberish
make random
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Time to make random No
Time to random gibberish Yes
random Yes
make random gibberish Yes
make random Yes
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N A A A A
A N A A A
A A N A A
A A A N A
A A A A N
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SphiX of black quartz, judge my vow!

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I’m on the case Yes
Time to make random gibberish No
Good range Yes
If No
Random crap. Yes

Even words Yes
Seems to be good No
But maybe it was just chance? No
Time to find out if I’m just lucky. Yes

Odd No
Might work too No
I just did it wrong No

I enjoy looking at Yes
Yes and Yes
No as the responses Yes
To my various statements No

Do you know what I mean? Yes

No, I do not. Yes
Why are we doing even sentences? No
Makes no sense. Yes
At all. No
Vicious words. No
Smile plox No

math No
math math No
math math math No
math math math math No
math? No
math math? No
math math math? No
math math math math? No
EVA No

Relaxing in basins at the end of inlets terminates the endless tests from the box? Yes
A short brimless felt hat barely blocks out the sound of a Celtic violin? No
Signage indicating endowments for industrial diamonds annoy filth-spreading genies? Yes

Waltz, bad nymph, for quick jigs vex! Yes
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. Yes
Sphinx of black quarts, judge my vow! Yes

yo, dig out, amen No
are you doing this? Yes
are words exist? No
go out and get what's mine? Yes
yy oo ??r53?? attt???!!9 aholy? No

d? No
ghasp! No
juck! No
plop? No
quack! No
wax! No
zone! Yes

See in a ship! Short stories! The corner on Lylac is NO! Yes

A No
B No
C No
D No
E No
F No
G No
H No
I No
J No
K No
L No
M No
N Yes
O No
P No
Q No
R No
S No
T No
I No
V No
W No
X No
Y No
Z No

Sorry about that... No

AA No
BB No
CC No
DD No
EE No
FF No
GG No
HH No
II No
JJ No
KK No
LL No
MM No
NN Yes
OO No
PP No
QQ No
RR No
SS No
TT No
UU No
VV No
WE No
XX No
YY No
ZZ No

I've been trying to get at a similar test with more elegance, but I guess the direct way works too? Yes

Sound? Yes
Violin? Yes

Yeah, I could tell, I got bored. No

NAAAA Yes
ANAAA Yes
AANAA Yes
AAANA Yes
AAAAN Yes

Dominion Online? Yes
Donifion Offline? Yes
Dofifiof Offlife? No
Damf there are mafy fs if Dofifiof! No

Time to make random No
Time to random gibberish Yes
random Yes
make random gibberish Yes
make random Yes

N A A A A Yes
A N A A A Yes
A A N A A Yes
A A A N A No
A A A A N No

SphiX of black quartz, judge my vow! No
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« Reply #392 on: March 15, 2019, 07:36:10 am »

Guess: The first three strings must contain at least one “N”
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« Reply #393 on: March 15, 2019, 07:38:47 am »

Guess: The first three strings must contain at least one “N”
Correct! (I felt like protecting myself from needing to do lots of work if people wrote long questions...)
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Okay, never done this before obviously, so I might make it an uncomfortable difficulty (too easy or too hard)

That being said, I have a rule.
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« Reply #395 on: March 15, 2019, 07:41:43 am »

Is your rule too easy?
Is it too hard?
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Is your rule too easy? No
Is it too hard? No
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« Reply #397 on: March 15, 2019, 07:44:34 am »

Is your rule too easy? No
Is it too hard? No
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« Reply #398 on: March 15, 2019, 07:52:48 am »

Is your rule that is neither too hard nor too easy too hard or too easy?
Dofifiof Oflife?
Do fifi of of life?
Square squared sqaures squarely?
Won't walls work well when white worspip waxes?

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« Reply #399 on: March 15, 2019, 07:54:39 am »

Whef ofe replaces all fs if a fefefce with fs, the result looks fuffy

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« Reply #400 on: March 15, 2019, 07:57:13 am »

Is your rule that is neither too hard nor too easy too hard or too easy? No
Dofifiof Oflife? No
Do fifi of of life? No
Square squared sqaures squarely? No
Won't walls work well when white worspip waxes? No


Whef ofe replaces all fs if a fefefce with fs, the result looks fuffy No
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #401 on: March 15, 2019, 08:01:51 am »

Qua?
Saq?
aqua?
qualia?
parity?
parity parity?
parity parity parity?
parity parity parity parity?
parity parity parity parity parity?
Yang?
Yang Yang?
Yang Yang Yang?

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« Reply #402 on: March 15, 2019, 08:04:52 am »

Qua? Yes
Saq? Yes
aqua? Yes
qualia? Yes
parity? Yes
parity parity? Yes
parity parity parity? Yes
parity parity parity parity? Yes
parity parity parity parity parity? Yes
Yang? Yes
Yang Yang? Yes
Yang Yang Yang? Yes
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« Reply #403 on: March 15, 2019, 08:11:43 am »

Guess: All words in the question are identical <==> Yes.
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« Reply #404 on: March 15, 2019, 08:19:15 am »

Guess: All words in the question are identical <==> Yes.

Incorrect

Counter example:

Words very different. Yes
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« Reply #405 on: March 15, 2019, 08:20:23 am »

Guess: All words need to have a character in common.

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« Reply #406 on: March 15, 2019, 08:21:52 am »

Nvm; the wall and quack thing, I forgot.

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« Reply #407 on: March 15, 2019, 08:23:28 am »

qualia qualia qualia yang?
qualia qualia yang yang?
qualia yang yang yang qualia?

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« Reply #408 on: March 15, 2019, 08:24:24 am »

Guess: All words need to have a character in common.

Incorrect

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All have an a. No
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« Reply #409 on: March 15, 2019, 08:26:43 am »

Nvm; the wall and quack thing, I forgot. No



qualia qualia qualia yang? No
qualia qualia yang yang? No
qualia yang yang yang qualia? No
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« Reply #410 on: March 15, 2019, 08:32:39 am »

Words very different?
Very different words?
Different Words very?
Different Words vary?
Very words different?
Vary words differently?

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« Reply #411 on: March 15, 2019, 08:35:42 am »

Words very different? Yes
Very different words? No
Different Words very? No
Different Words vary? No
Very words different? No
Vary words differently? No
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« Reply #412 on: March 15, 2019, 08:38:13 am »

Words very very different?
Words very different different?
Words words very different?
Words words very very differerent different?
Would words work wonders when woke?

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« Reply #413 on: March 15, 2019, 08:41:39 am »

Words very very different? Yes
Words very different different? Yes
Words words very different? Yes
Words words very very differerent different? Yes
Would words work wonders when woke? No
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« Reply #414 on: March 15, 2019, 08:44:07 am »

Guess: the words have to be in monotonously decreasing alphabetical order.

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« Reply #415 on: March 15, 2019, 08:46:09 am »

Guess: the words have to be in monotonously decreasing alphabetical order.

Explain what you mean by monotonously.
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« Reply #416 on: March 15, 2019, 08:50:40 am »

If i and j are indices, then i < j  implies w_i >= w_j. (In contrast to strictly monotously,  where i < j implies w_i > w_j)

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« Reply #417 on: March 15, 2019, 08:51:56 am »

(and by w_i >= w_j I mean word i comes after word j in the alphabet)

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« Reply #418 on: March 15, 2019, 08:52:40 am »

EBWOP (and by w_i >= w_j I mean word i comes after or at the same position than word j in the alphabet)

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« Reply #419 on: March 15, 2019, 08:53:52 am »

Okay, then I believe you are Correct!

Time for me to sleep, it was too easy after all.
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« Reply #420 on: March 15, 2019, 08:56:13 am »

I'm not so sure it was too easy. If we had had more YES early, we might have developed incorrect theories and invested a lot of time in them. There's luck involved.

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« Reply #421 on: March 15, 2019, 09:18:48 am »

I have a rule.

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« Reply #422 on: March 15, 2019, 09:36:56 am »

Are you using monotonously to mean monotonically?
I appreaciate that meaning can be affected by usage.
So maybe now monotonously has gathered a new meaning?
But if we take that too far then I can use any word to mean anything, can't I?
I know what your rule is.
It is aardvark.
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« Reply #423 on: March 15, 2019, 09:40:55 am »

It's obviously llfiiop, gghytsz.
You really have to be sddrtzz to not know that.
Hhhhhhhhhhh.............
Ui ya ghh c?
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« Reply #424 on: March 15, 2019, 12:15:09 pm »

Are you using monotonously to mean monotonically? Yes (Ah. Yes. Wrong adverb.)
I appreaciate that meaning can be affected by usage. No
So maybe now monotonously has gathered a new meaning? Yes
But if we take that too far then I can use any word to mean anything, can't I? Yes
I know what your rule is. Yes
It is aardvark. No
I will explain what I am using 'aardvark' to mean, later. No

It's obviously llfiiop, gghytsz. Yes
You really have to be sddrtzz to not know that. Yes
Hhhhhhhhhhh............. No
Ui ya ghh c? Yes
Quest? Yes

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« Reply #425 on: March 15, 2019, 03:28:33 pm »

?.
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?. No
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?..! No
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« Reply #427 on: March 15, 2019, 03:53:34 pm »

aadvark.
That's the rule, right?
About elementary is our universe?
About elementary is our universe, yours.
You know where I'm going with this, right?
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« Reply #428 on: March 15, 2019, 03:54:32 pm »

aadvark. No
That's the rule, right? Yes
About elementary is our universe? Yes
About elementary is our universe, yours. Yes
You know where I'm going with this, right? Yes
Let's make something big and fun and really really long for next part, watch this, I'm so clever. Yes
Lt's mk smthng bg nd fn nd rlly rlly lng fr nxt prt, wtch ths, 'm s clvr No
e ae oei i a u a ea ea o o e a a i I o ee No
Yeah. No
I know. Yes

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« Reply #429 on: March 15, 2019, 09:21:25 pm »

It seems like a long one will Inevitably work
Like, eventually it must follow the rule
Unless you purposely make it weird.
LLL OOO LLL OOO LLL
Weird.
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« Reply #430 on: March 16, 2019, 04:09:27 am »

It seems like a long one will Inevitably work Yes
Like, eventually it must follow the rule Yes
Unless you purposely make it weird. No
LLL OOO LLL OOO LLL No
Weird. No

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It is aardvark, I know it.
Aardvark quest?
Rule?
Right?
It's?
Save?
Port?
Starboard?
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« Reply #432 on: March 17, 2019, 08:50:28 am »

Are you using monotonously to mean monotonically? Yes (Ah. Yes. Wrong adverb.)
I appreaciate that meaning can be affected by usage. No
So maybe now monotonously has gathered a new meaning? Yes
But if we take that too far then I can use any word to mean anything, can't I? Yes
I know what your rule is. Yes
It is aardvark. No
I will explain what I am using 'aardvark' to mean, later. No

It's obviously llfiiop, gghytsz. Yes
You really have to be sddrtzz to not know that. Yes
Hhhhhhhhhhh............. No
Ui ya ghh c? Yes
Quest? Yes

?. No
.? No
...? No
?..! No
.. No

aadvark. No
That's the rule, right? Yes
About elementary is our universe? Yes
About elementary is our universe, yours. Yes
You know where I'm going with this, right? Yes
Let's make something big and fun and really really long for next part, watch this, I'm so clever. Yes
Lt's mk smthng bg nd fn nd rlly rlly lng fr nxt prt, wtch ths, 'm s clvr No
e ae oei i a u a ea ea o o e a a i I o ee No
Yeah. No
I know. Yes


It seems like a long one will Inevitably work Yes
Like, eventually it must follow the rule Yes
Unless you purposely make it weird. No
LLL OOO LLL OOO LLL No
Weird. No

It is aardvark, I know it. Yes
Aardvark quest? Yes
Rule? No
Right? Yes
It's? No
Save? No
Port? No
Starboard? Yes
Obviously? No

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« Reply #433 on: March 17, 2019, 09:20:53 am »

It, seems, like, a, long, one, will, Inevitably, work
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« Reply #434 on: March 17, 2019, 09:41:15 am »

It, seems, like, a, long, one, will, Inevitably, work Yes

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« Reply #435 on: March 18, 2019, 04:08:26 am »

Guess: The question contains two consecutive letters which are consecutive in the alphabet, in order.
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« Reply #436 on: March 18, 2019, 04:12:31 am »

Correct! That was fast!

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« Reply #437 on: March 18, 2019, 04:18:56 am »

Correct! That was fast!
Something about "quest" and "know", very different words both making yeses.
Also a vague memory of seeing it before.

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« Reply #438 on: March 18, 2019, 05:47:26 am »

Time for all
the random crap
that gives us people
a starting
point

A
A A
A A A
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« Reply #439 on: March 18, 2019, 05:55:51 am »

Time for all No
the random crap No
that gives us people No
a starting No
point No

A No
A A No
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« Reply #440 on: March 18, 2019, 09:21:39 am »

Well, that’s disheartening. Time to write a long one and see how that makes this game fare.

And a shorty

With numbers 1234567890

Andweirdnesswitheverythingelse

I will achieve a yes, I promise.

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Well, that’s disheartening. Time to write a long one and see how that makes this game fare. No
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With numbers 1234567890 No
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Promise broken.
Did we ask anything yet?
Doubt it.
This is soooo hard...
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Promise broken. No
Did we ask anything yet? No
Doubt it. No
This is soooo hard... No
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« Reply #444 on: March 18, 2019, 01:37:47 pm »

Did Hitler do anything wrong?

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« Reply #445 on: March 18, 2019, 03:29:54 pm »

Just mainly to get a yes: Guess: Always no.
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Just mainly to get a yes: Guess: Always no.
Incorrect. Counterexample:
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A A A A?
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« Reply #448 on: March 18, 2019, 08:42:13 pm »

D Y T E C C C C

Cranberry cranberry cranberry cranberry bran berry

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Don't you think Elliptic Curve

Curve Cryptography's cool cool?
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Time for all No
the random crap No
that gives us people No
a starting No
point No

A No
A A No
A A A No
AAA No

Well, that’s disheartening. Time to write a long one and see how that makes this game fare. No
And a shorty No
With numbers 1234567890 No
Andweirdnesswitheverythingelse No
I will achieve a yes, I promise. No

Promise broken. No
Did we ask anything yet? No
Doubt it. No
This is soooo hard... No
But; it's really fun. No
And that makes it the best thing ever! No

Guess: Always no.
Incorrect. Counterexample:
Don't you think Elliptic Curve Cryptography's cool cool? Yes

A A A A? No

D Y T E C C C C No
Cranberry cranberry cranberry cranberry bran berry No

Don't you think Elliptic Curve No
Curve Cryptography's cool cool? No
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« Reply #451 on: March 19, 2019, 05:29:28 am »

Elliptic curve
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Just playing around with capitalization here...

D y t E C C c c?
Don't You Think Elliptic Curve Cryptography's Cool Cool?
don't you think elliptic curve cryptography's cool cool?
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« Reply #453 on: March 19, 2019, 09:32:56 am »

Elliptic curve No

Just playing around with capitalization here... No

D y t E C C c c? No
Don't You Think Elliptic Curve Cryptography's Cool Cool? Yes
don't you think elliptic curve cryptography's cool cool? No
don't You Think elliptic curve cryptography's Cool Cool? No
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« Reply #454 on: March 19, 2019, 01:54:54 pm »

Don’t you think Caps Are Better than not?

Don't you Think elliptic Curve cryptography's Cool cool?
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« Reply #455 on: March 19, 2019, 05:57:25 pm »

Don’t you think Caps Are Better than not? No
Don't you Think elliptic Curve cryptography's Cool cool? No
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« Reply #456 on: March 19, 2019, 10:16:25 pm »

So it cares about capitalization
And also about the actual words
This is an interesting rule
But hard to get a yes out of
Let's see how sensitive it is
And to what

Don yo thin Ellipti Curv Cryptography coo coo?
Do y thi Ellipt Cur Cryptograph co co?
Don't Elliptic Curve Cryptography's?
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« Reply #457 on: March 19, 2019, 10:26:51 pm »

Don't Cryptography's?
DON'T YOU THINK ELLIPTIC CURVE CRYPTOGRAPHY'S COOL COOL?
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« Reply #458 on: March 20, 2019, 05:04:03 am »

So it cares about capitalization No
And also about the actual words No
This is an interesting rule No
But hard to get a yes out of No
Let's see how sensitive it is No
And to what No

Don yo thin Ellipti Curv Cryptography coo coo? No
Do y thi Ellipt Cur Cryptograph co co? No
Don't Elliptic Curve Cryptography's? Yes
Don Ellipti Curv Cryptography No
Do Ellipt Cur Cryptograph? No

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DON'T YOU THINK ELLIPTIC CURVE CRYPTOGRAPHY'S COOL COOL? No
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« Reply #459 on: March 20, 2019, 05:05:45 am »

Elliptic Cryptography's?
Curve Cryptography's?
Elliptic Curve?
Elliptic Curve Cryptography?
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« Reply #460 on: March 20, 2019, 05:14:07 am »

Elliptic Cryptography's? No
Curve Cryptography's? No
Elliptic Curve? No
Elliptic Curve Cryptography? Yes
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« Reply #461 on: March 20, 2019, 08:05:38 am »

Elliptic curve Cryptography?
elliptic Curve Cryptography?
Elliptic Curve cryptography?
Elliptic CUrve Cryptography?
Elliptic cUrve Cryptography?
elliptic Curve cryptography?
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« Reply #462 on: March 20, 2019, 08:09:21 am »

Elliptic curve Cryptography? No
elliptic Curve Cryptography? No
Elliptic Curve cryptography? No
Elliptic CUrve Cryptography? No
Elliptic cUrve Cryptography? No
elliptic Curve cryptography? No
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« Reply #463 on: March 20, 2019, 03:55:15 pm »

Elliptic Curve Cryptography i think i might be able to put anything lowercase in here but im not sure about that lets find out?
and Elliptic maybe Curve in between Cryptography words?
Elliptic maybe the Curve first word has to be Cryptography a capital?
Dont you think Elliptic Curve Cryptographys cool cool?
D'o'n't y'o'u t'h'i'n'k E'l'l'i'p't'i'c C'u'r'v'e C'r'y'p't'o'g'r'a'p'h'y's c'o'o'l c'o'o'l?
E'l'l'i'p't'i'c C'u'r'v'e C'r'y'p't'o'g'r'a'p'h'y?
Elliptic does punctuation Curve make a difference Cryptography?
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« Reply #464 on: March 20, 2019, 06:22:23 pm »

Elliptic Curve Cryptography i think i might be able to put anything lowercase in here but im not sure about that lets find out? Yes
and Elliptic maybe Curve in between Cryptography words? No
Elliptic maybe the Curve first word has to be Cryptography a capital? No
Dont you think Elliptic Curve Cryptographys cool cool? Yes
D'o'n't y'o'u t'h'i'n'k E'l'l'i'p't'i'c C'u'r'v'e C'r'y'p't'o'g'r'a'p'h'y's c'o'o'l c'o'o'l? No
E'l'l'i'p't'i'c C'u'r'v'e C'r'y'p't'o'g'r'a'p'h'y? No
Elliptic does punctuation Curve make a difference Cryptography? No
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« Reply #465 on: March 20, 2019, 09:20:14 pm »

Just like the previous guess, this is only to rule something out:

Guess: If it contains the string "Elliptic Curve Cryptography", it is yes, otherwise no.
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« Reply #466 on: March 21, 2019, 04:05:09 am »

Just like the previous guess, this is only to rule something out:

Guess: If it contains the string "Elliptic Curve Cryptography", it is yes, otherwise no.
Correct. Your turn.
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« Reply #467 on: March 21, 2019, 04:09:32 am »

Aren't these eliptic curvues the basis for some kind of abelian group which has better properties than Z_p with only have of its elements? That was mentioned in the class on cryptography I took the past semester but it didn't go into detail.

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« Reply #468 on: March 21, 2019, 04:09:56 am »

*have -> half

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« Reply #469 on: March 21, 2019, 04:34:16 am »

Aren't these eliptic curvues the basis for some kind of abelian group which has better properties than Z_p with only have of its elements? That was mentioned in the class on cryptography I took the past semester but it didn't go into detail.
That sounds about right. Though I think the number of elements tends to be close to p, not half of p. The number of x-coordinates is close to half of p, but each valid x-coordinate occurs in two points of the curve.
I think it is cool that a seemingly innocuous sounding concept like 'scalar multiplication' of points on the curve leads to a cryptographically secure group. And you can visualise it all nicely on a graph (which doesn't look anything like an ellipse by the way). And you can casually throw in a 'point at infinity' which makes it all work. And... well after this rule I think everyone should go and find out about elliptic curve cryptography. :)
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« Reply #470 on: March 21, 2019, 07:10:53 am »

That was supposed to read "better than [Z_p with only half of its elements]". I think you had to take a subgroup of Z_p that was always exactly half the size because otherwise one bit of information was leaking... right?

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« Reply #471 on: March 21, 2019, 07:11:30 am »

And even then it was somehow supposed to be less awesome than the eliptic curve thing though our prof didn't tell us why  :D

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« Reply #472 on: March 21, 2019, 09:02:05 am »

Just like the previous guess, this is only to rule something out:

Guess: If it contains the string "Elliptic Curve Cryptography", it is yes, otherwise no.
Correct. Your turn.

Wait, actually?
I didn't think it was actually the rule; I was just trying to get some variation so I could get a better lead.
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I have a rule.
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« Reply #473 on: March 21, 2019, 09:44:34 am »

Well that rule was uh...
Something.
I hope I helped!
Not really too focused on this
Got other things on my mind (wink).
Is winking allowed?
Well, too late now!
Or is it...
No?
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« Reply #474 on: March 21, 2019, 09:54:27 am »

Well that rule was uh... Yes
Something. No
I hope I helped! Yes
Not really too focused on this Yes
Got other things on my mind (wink). Yes
Is winking allowed? Yes
Well, too late now! Yes
Or is it... Yes
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« Reply #475 on: March 21, 2019, 01:40:40 pm »

Noo
Boo
Hm
Weell too late now
Well too late now
Soommethiing
(Wink)
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« Reply #476 on: March 21, 2019, 02:11:59 pm »

I ame veryy bad ate makinge these without being obvious
But I preferr co-op anyways!
I think winking ruled out the ideas I had...
How that about?
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« Reply #477 on: March 21, 2019, 08:14:01 pm »

Well that rule was uh... Yes
Something. No
I hope I helped! Yes
Not really too focused on this Yes
Got other things on my mind (wink). Yes
Is winking allowed? Yes
Well, too late now! Yes
Or is it... Yes
No? Yes
Hmm No

Noo Yes
Boo Yes
Hm No
Weell too late now Yes
Well too late now Yes
Soommethiing No
(Wink) Yes

I ame veryy bad ate makinge these without being obvious Yes
But I preferr co-op anyways! Yes
I think winking ruled out the ideas I had... Yes
How that about? Yes
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« Reply #478 on: March 21, 2019, 08:25:32 pm »

Him
Hom
See
Sii
Nee
Nah
Naa
Sooooooomthing
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« Reply #479 on: March 21, 2019, 08:48:10 pm »

Him No
Hom No
See No
Sii Yes
Nee No
Nah Yes
Naa No
Sooooooomthing No
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« Reply #480 on: March 21, 2019, 08:58:06 pm »

Isi
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SII
anh
NAH
Hum
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Isi Yes
isi Yes
SII Yes
anh No
NAH Yes
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« Reply #482 on: March 22, 2019, 04:53:14 am »

ahn
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hna
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ahn No
han No
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hhelibebcnofnena Yes
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« Reply #485 on: March 23, 2019, 08:05:30 pm »

No
Yes

a No
h Yes
n Yes
ah No
an No
ha No
hn Yes
na Yes
nh Yes
abc No
bca Yes
cab Yes
acb Yes
cba Yes
bac Yes
Are we getting somewhere? No
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« Reply #486 on: March 23, 2019, 08:07:56 pm »

Ignore the no and yes at the top of the last post, with no question attached. I was using them to copy and paste my responses because I didn't want to manually change the color each time. I just forgot to delete them.
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« Reply #487 on: March 23, 2019, 08:19:50 pm »

Ignore the no and yes at the top of the last post, with no question attached. I was using them to copy and paste my responses because I didn't want to manually change the color each time. I just forgot to delete them.

Couldn't you just first copy the Yes to every Yes question and then copy the No to every No question?
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« Reply #488 on: March 23, 2019, 08:32:56 pm »

Couldn't you just first copy the Yes to every Yes question and then copy the No to every No question? Yes

And, as an actual answer, yes, I suppose I could do that. I guess I just want to make sure I don't miss one.
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« Reply #489 on: March 24, 2019, 08:10:36 pm »

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D
E
F
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K
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M
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« Reply #490 on: March 24, 2019, 08:39:17 pm »

A No
B Yes
C Yes
D No
E No
F Yes
G No
H Yes
I Yes
J No
K Yes
L No
M No
N Yes
O Yes
P Yes
Q No
R No
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T No
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V Yes
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« Reply #491 on: March 25, 2019, 04:32:45 am »

AA
AD
AE
AG
RZ
TZ
XZ
ZZ

BB
BC
BF
BH
UY
VY
WY
YY

EGG
JAM
LAME
DAGGER
GRAMMAR

WHY
SPOON
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« Reply #492 on: March 25, 2019, 01:38:16 pm »

A something
B something
C something
D something
E something
F something
something A
something B
something C
something D
something E
something F

A boo
B boo
C boo
D boo
E boo
F boo
boo A
boo B
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AA No
AD No
AE No
AG Yes
RZ No
TZ No
XZ No
ZZ No

BB Yes
BC Yes
BF Yes
BH Yes
UY Yes
VY Yes
WY Yes
YY Yes

EGG No
JAM No
LAME No
DAGGER No
GRAMMAR No

WHY Yes
SPOON Yes
WISH Yes
WHISK Yes
BUFFOON Yes

A something No
B something Yes
C something Yes
D something No
E something No
F something Yes
something A No
something B Yes
something C Yes
something D No
something E No
something F Yes

A boo Yes
B boo Yes
C boo Yes
D boo Yes
E boo Yes
F boo Yes
boo A Yes
boo B Yes
boo C Yes
boo D Yes
boo E Yes
boo F Yes
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« Reply #494 on: March 25, 2019, 03:44:26 pm »

AJ
AL
AM
AQ
AR
AT
AX
AZ
A G
G something
something G
GA
EG
GE
AGG
A D E G J L M Q R T X Z
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« Reply #495 on: March 25, 2019, 10:20:56 pm »

AJ No
AL Yes
AM Yes
AQ No
AR Yes
AT Yes
AX No
AZ No
A G No
G something No
something G No
GA Yes
EG No
GE Yes
AGG No
A D E G J L M Q R T X Z No
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« Reply #496 on: March 26, 2019, 04:52:21 am »

So
Som
Some
Somet
Someth
Somethi
Somethin
Something

SomethingA
SomethingB
SomethingC
SomethingD
SomethingE
SomethingF
SomethingG
SomethingH
SomethingI
SomethingJ
SomethingK
SomethingL
SomethingM
SomethingN
SomethingO
SomethingP
SomethingQ
SomethingR
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« Reply #497 on: March 26, 2019, 04:59:29 am »

0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
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« Reply #498 on: March 26, 2019, 08:57:48 am »

So Yes
Som No
Some No
Somet No
Someth No
Somethi No
Somethin No
Something No

SomethingA No
SomethingB No
SomethingC No
SomethingD No
SomethingE No
SomethingF No
SomethingG No
SomethingH No
SomethingI No
SomethingJ No
SomethingK No
SomethingL No
SomethingM No
SomethingN No
SomethingO No
SomethingP No
SomethingQ No
SomethingR No
SomethingS No
SomethingT No
SomethingU No
SomethingV No
SomethingW No
SomethingX No
SomethingY No
SomethingZ No

0 No
1 No
2 No
3 No
4 No
5 No
6 No
7 No
8 No
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« Reply #499 on: March 26, 2019, 09:33:13 am »

TAG
RAT
AXE
LEG
MAD
RAG
GEM
JET
GEL
ALE
ZED
QQQ

DATE
GATE
MEAL
MAZE
READ
TALL
JAZZ
TRAM
ZEAL

DREAM
GREAT
LLAMA
TAXED
ALERT

TARGET
MERGED
GARAGE

ZQXJMGD
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« Reply #500 on: March 26, 2019, 12:16:31 pm »

TAG No
RAT No
AXE No
LEG No
MAD No
RAG No
GEM No
JET No
GEL No
ALE No
ZED No
QQQ No

DATE No
GATE Yes
MEAL No
MAZE No
READ No
TALL No
JAZZ No
TRAM No
ZEAL No

DREAM No
GREAT No
LLAMA No
TAXED No
ALERT No

TARGET No
MERGED No
GARAGE Yes

ZQXJMGD No
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« Reply #501 on: March 27, 2019, 04:50:11 am »

RA T
RA'T
RA-T
RA,T
A'G
A-G
A,G
AGA

SYPHON
SHAMPOO
CARPAL
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« Reply #502 on: March 27, 2019, 03:42:53 pm »

Well that rule was uh... Yes
Something. No
I hope I helped! Yes
Not really too focused on this Yes
Got other things on my mind (wink). Yes
Is winking allowed? Yes
Well, too late now! Yes
Or is it... Yes
No? Yes
Hmm No

Noo Yes
Boo Yes
Hm No
Weell too late now Yes
Well too late now Yes
Soommethiing No
(Wink) Yes

I ame veryy bad ate makinge these without being obvious Yes
But I preferr co-op anyways! Yes
I think winking ruled out the ideas I had... Yes
How that about? Yes

Him No
Hom No
See No
Sii Yes
Nee No
Nah Yes
Naa No
Sooooooomthing No

Isi Yes
isi Yes
SII Yes
anh No
NAH Yes
Hum No

ahn No
han No
hna Yes
nha No
nah Yes
hhelibebcnofnena Yes

a No
h Yes
n Yes
ah No
an No
ha No
hn Yes
na Yes
nh Yes
abc No
bca Yes
cab Yes
acb Yes
cba Yes
bac Yes
Are we getting somewhere? No
Are we getting something? No
Something useful? No

Couldn't you just first copy the Yes to every Yes question and then copy the No to every No question? Yes

A No
B Yes
C Yes
D No
E No
F Yes
G No
H Yes
I Yes
J No
K Yes
L No
M No
N Yes
O Yes
P Yes
Q No
R No
S Yes
T No
U Yes
V Yes
W Yes
X No
Y Yes
Z No

AA No
AD No
AE No
AG Yes
RZ No
TZ No
XZ No
ZZ No

BB Yes
BC Yes
BF Yes
BH Yes
UY Yes
VY Yes
WY Yes
YY Yes

EGG No
JAM No
LAME No
DAGGER No
GRAMMAR No

WHY Yes
SPOON Yes
WISH Yes
WHISK Yes
BUFFOON Yes

A something No
B something Yes
C something Yes
D something No
E something No
F something Yes
something A No
something B Yes
something C Yes
something D No
something E No
something F Yes

A boo Yes
B boo Yes
C boo Yes
D boo Yes
E boo Yes
F boo Yes
boo A Yes
boo B Yes
boo C Yes
boo D Yes
boo E Yes
boo F Yes

AJ No
AL Yes
AM Yes
AQ No
AR Yes
AT Yes
AX No
AZ No
A G No
G something No
something G No
GA Yes
EG No
GE Yes
AGG No
A D E G J L M Q R T X Z No
A D E G J K L M Q R T X Z Yes

So Yes
Som No
Some No
Somet No
Someth No
Somethi No
Somethin No
Something No

SomethingA No
SomethingB No
SomethingC No
SomethingD No
SomethingE No
SomethingF No
SomethingG No
SomethingH No
SomethingI No
SomethingJ No
SomethingK No
SomethingL No
SomethingM No
SomethingN No
SomethingO No
SomethingP No
SomethingQ No
SomethingR No
SomethingS No
SomethingT No
SomethingU No
SomethingV No
SomethingW No
SomethingX No
SomethingY No
SomethingZ No

0 No
1 No
2 No
3 No
4 No
5 No
6 No
7 No
8 No
9 No

TAG No
RAT No
AXE No
LEG No
MAD No
RAG No
GEM No
JET No
GEL No
ALE No
ZED No
QQQ No

DATE No
GATE Yes
MEAL No
MAZE No
READ No
TALL No
JAZZ No
TRAM No
ZEAL No

DREAM No
GREAT No
LLAMA No
TAXED No
ALERT No

TARGET No
MERGED No
GARAGE Yes

ZQXJMGD No

RA T Yes
RA'T No
RA-T Yes
RA,T Yes
A'G Yes
A-G No
A,G No
AGA No

SYPHON Yes
SHAMPOO Yes
CARPAL Yes
WATKINSON Yes
TERAPHONONA Yes
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« Reply #503 on: March 27, 2019, 03:46:55 pm »

Just so you know, I will be away and offline from Thursday to Sunday, so I will not be able to answer questions during that time frame. I will answer all questions and/or guesses on Monday, unless someone guesses the rule before the day is over.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #504 on: March 27, 2019, 03:55:45 pm »

Right, sothis
iswhat fits
sofar.
A question
isyes ifit
contains
atleast one
yesword.
A word isyes
ifitcan
be splitup
into "yes" strings.
"Yes" strings are one or two letters (possibly longer, but I haven't found any evidence for longer ones yet).
I'm compiling a listof "yes" strings, but don't have itin front ofme at the moment; I'll post it tomorrow.
Hopefully someone will be able to see some logic in the set of "yes" strings.
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« Reply #505 on: March 27, 2019, 04:26:00 pm »

Right, sothis Yes
iswhat fits Yes
sofar. Yes
A question No
isyes ifit Yes
contains Yes
atleast one Yes
yesword. No
A word isyes Yes
ifitcan No
be splitup Yes
into "yes" strings. Yes
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I'm compiling a listof "yes" strings, but don't have itin front ofme at the moment; I'll post it tomorrow. Yes
Hopefully someone will be able to see some logic in the set of "yes" strings. Yes

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« Reply #506 on: March 27, 2019, 11:59:30 pm »

The following (in spoilers) is just me either confirming or denying the claim which infangthief made. If you don't want to know, don't read it. The claim is as follows:
"A question is yes if it contains at least one yes word. correct
A word is yes if it can be split up into yes strings. correct
Yes strings are one or two letters correct
(possibly longer   nope   , but I haven't found any evidence for longer ones yet)."

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #507 on: March 28, 2019, 05:11:14 am »

These letters and digraphs have been explicitly confirmed as 'yes':

B'C'F'H'I'K'N'O'P'S'U'V'W'Y
AG'AL'AM'AR'AT'GA'GE

These digraphs can be shown to be 'yes' assuming my earlier claims are correct:

AC
BA'CA'NA'NE'RA'TE

These letters and digraphs have been explicitly confirmed as not 'yes':

A D E G J L M Q R T X Z
AA AD AE AJ AQ AX AZ EG

These digraphs can be shown to be not 'yes' assuming my earlier claims are correct:

AB AH AN DA EE HA IM IT ME MM OM RD TC TR UM WE ZE
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« Reply #508 on: March 28, 2019, 05:38:19 am »

Some likely 'yeses':
BE
EL
YE
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« Reply #509 on: March 28, 2019, 05:43:18 am »

Got it.
Guess: The question contains at least one word which is made up of symbols of chemical elements <=> Yes
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« Reply #510 on: March 28, 2019, 05:59:49 am »

And now your profile name makes sense!
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« Reply #511 on: March 28, 2019, 09:21:17 am »

I'm leaving in a half hour, and just thought I would pop on here just in case anyone guessed it, because if so I didn't want to keep anyone waiting around for four days.

Got it.
Guess: The question contains at least one word which is made up of symbols of chemical elements <=> Yes

Correct!

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« Reply #512 on: March 28, 2019, 09:48:39 am »

I'm leaving in a half hour, and just thought I would pop on here just in case anyone guessed it, because if so I didn't want to keep anyone waiting around for four days.
Thanks. I thought I'd missed the boat.

I wonder if it's time we took a break anyway from Zendo questions. Come back to it in a few months? What does anyone else think?
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« Reply #513 on: March 28, 2019, 12:28:36 pm »

I've begun my break already, but if anyone else wants to play they don't need to wait for us.

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« Reply #514 on: June 16, 2020, 02:15:19 pm »

Ok, that was a nice long break.

I have a rule
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Good necro
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« Reply #516 on: June 16, 2020, 03:46:40 pm »

Good necro Yes
What was that No
15 months Yes
? No
Something No
Like Yes
that No
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« Reply #517 on: June 16, 2020, 04:00:19 pm »

Cheese?
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« Reply #518 on: June 16, 2020, 04:03:42 pm »

Cheese? Yes
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No cheese?
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« Reply #520 on: June 16, 2020, 05:33:54 pm »

Some cheese?
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« Reply #521 on: June 16, 2020, 06:29:59 pm »

I
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« Reply #522 on: June 16, 2020, 07:10:53 pm »

Why are we all asking about cheese?
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« Reply #523 on: June 16, 2020, 07:16:31 pm »

Why would we not ask about cheese?
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« Reply #524 on: June 16, 2020, 07:18:38 pm »

Why would we not ask about cheese?

Please
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Should
be
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« Reply #525 on: June 16, 2020, 08:03:06 pm »

No cheese? Yes
Some cheese?  Yes
I No
like cheese  Yes
Why are we all asking about cheese?  Yes
Why would we not ask about cheese?  Yes
Please  Yes
make  Yes
sentences  Yes
in  Yes
one  Yes
word  Yes
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Should  Yes
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better  Yes
for  Yes
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all. No

Maybe  Yes
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joth.  Yes

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« Reply #526 on: June 17, 2020, 12:21:43 pm »

adfkjsklfj adfkjlkd I
adsfkljiieii I
ddddddd dddddddd I
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cheese?
bbbbbbbbbbbbbb cheese?
aaaaaaa bbbbbb ccc cheese?
cheese
cheese.
cheese?
Cheese?
Cheese.
Cheese

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« Reply #527 on: June 17, 2020, 12:23:29 pm »

Please.
Please?
Please
please.
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« Reply #528 on: June 17, 2020, 12:40:50 pm »

adfkjsklfj adfkjlkd I Yes
adsfkljiieii I Yes
ddddddd dddddddd I Yes
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cheese? No
bbbbbbbbbbbbbb cheese? Yes
aaaaaaa bbbbbb ccc cheese? Yes
cheese Yes
cheese. Yes
cheese? Yes
Cheese? Yes
Cheese. Yes
Cheese Yes

Also Yes
I had Yes
forgotten No
about Yes
this Yes
thread. Yes
Glad Yes
it's back. Yes

Please. Yes
Please? Yes
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please. Yes
please? Yes
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« Reply #529 on: June 17, 2020, 12:42:31 pm »

a
aa
aaa
b
bb
bbb
ab
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« Reply #530 on: June 17, 2020, 12:44:14 pm »

a Yes
aa Yes
aaa Yes
b No
bb Yes
bbb Yes
ab Yes
ba Yes
aab Yes
bba Yes
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« Reply #532 on: June 17, 2020, 01:22:39 pm »

a
b
c
d
e
f
g
h
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j
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m
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« Reply #533 on: June 17, 2020, 01:24:33 pm »

a Yes
b No
c No
d No
e No
No
g No
h No
i No
j No
k No
l No
m No
n No
o No
p No
q No
r No
s No
t No
u No
v No
w No
x No
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« Reply #536 on: June 17, 2020, 01:38:27 pm »

z
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« Reply #537 on: June 17, 2020, 01:41:05 pm »

--snip--
  • At the beginning of the round, the Oracle invents a secret rule, completely mechanical, based on - and solely on - the exact wording of the questions asked. This rule will, given the exact wording of a question, tell the Oracle to reply either "Yes" or "No". You must be able to answer the same question the same way, regardless of the context of the question. Examples include:
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« Reply #538 on: June 17, 2020, 01:51:16 pm »

Whoops. Well that's what I get for necroing an ancient thread. Anyone want to take a guess anyway? It's not a terribly complicated rule.
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« Reply #539 on: June 17, 2020, 01:56:44 pm »

Is it YES if it container a letter (or character) from the previously asked phrase, NO, if it does not?
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« Reply #540 on: June 17, 2020, 02:25:17 pm »

Is it YES if it container a letter (or character) from the previously asked phrase, NO, if it does not?

Just letter. I figured character would be problematic since most questions end with a question mark.
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« Reply #541 on: June 24, 2020, 04:13:22 pm »

Scolapasta, do you have another rule, since you guessed the last one?
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« Reply #542 on: June 24, 2020, 04:41:03 pm »

Go for it.
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« Reply #543 on: June 24, 2020, 05:28:34 pm »

I'll get you started with some questions?
Is it a good rule?
Is it a legal rule, unlike my rule?
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« Reply #544 on: June 24, 2020, 05:29:50 pm »

can't
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« Reply #545 on: June 24, 2020, 05:31:17 pm »

Scolapasta, do you have another rule, since you guessed the last one?
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Didn’t
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« Reply #547 on: June 24, 2020, 07:50:19 pm »

Didn’t
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« Reply #548 on: June 24, 2020, 07:53:25 pm »

I did
Not realize
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« Reply #549 on: June 24, 2020, 07:55:39 pm »

Incredible!
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« Reply #550 on: June 25, 2020, 04:58:32 pm »

Go for it. No
I'll get you started with some questions? No
Is it a good rule? No
Is it a legal rule, unlike my rule? No
can't No
tell No
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those Yes
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« Reply #551 on: June 25, 2020, 07:21:18 pm »

chose
hose
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fare
hare
mare
ware
rare
tare
reality
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« Reply #552 on: June 25, 2020, 07:59:21 pm »

A
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« Reply #553 on: June 26, 2020, 12:22:59 am »

chose Yes
hose Yes
care Yes
bare Yes
dare Yes
fare Yes
hare Yes
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ware Yes
rare No
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« Reply #554 on: June 26, 2020, 02:27:59 am »

I hate doing this, but it seems it might help here...
A
B
C
D
E
F
G
H
I
J
K
L
M
N
O
P
Q
R
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T
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« Reply #555 on: June 26, 2020, 11:54:55 am »

I hate doing this, but it seems it might help here... Yes
A No
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C No
D No
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F No
G No
H No
I No
J No
K No
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« Reply #556 on: June 26, 2020, 11:56:18 am »

Wait
I was right?
I don't
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« Reply #557 on: June 26, 2020, 12:02:39 pm »

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« Reply #558 on: June 26, 2020, 12:03:39 pm »

guess: it has a letter e and no words with repeated letters in it
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« Reply #559 on: June 26, 2020, 12:04:37 pm »

guess: it has a letter e and no words with repeated letters in it

repeated letters other than e, right?
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« Reply #560 on: June 26, 2020, 12:05:13 pm »

guess: it has a letter e and no words with repeated letters in it

repeated letters other than e, right?

yeah
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« Reply #561 on: June 26, 2020, 12:09:00 pm »

guess: it has a letter e and no words with repeated letters in it

Counterexample:
I hate doing this, but it seems it might help here... Yes
("seems" has the letter s twice)
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« Reply #562 on: June 26, 2020, 12:14:49 pm »

let's try

I seem to hate doing this, but it might help here...
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« Reply #563 on: June 26, 2020, 12:15:43 pm »

Guess: the letter e appears as or more frequently than any other letter
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« Reply #564 on: June 26, 2020, 12:46:16 pm »

Guess: the letter e appears as or more frequently than any other letter

Correct!
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« Reply #565 on: June 26, 2020, 12:59:07 pm »

Sweet. Thanks LL!

I have a rule
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Is
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we
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« Reply #567 on: June 26, 2020, 01:33:06 pm »

Is this question, which I have intentionally made very long, a little too long to to evaluate in a timely manner, and if so, should I apologize?
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« Reply #568 on: June 26, 2020, 01:34:41 pm »

Is Yes
it Yes
a Yes
rule No
that No
we Yes
will Yes
figure No
out Yes
quickly? No

Is this question, which I have intentionally made very long, a little too long to to evaluate in a timely manner, and if so, should I apologize? No
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« Reply #569 on: June 26, 2020, 01:37:23 pm »

A rule
No rule
East rule
West rule
Yellow rule
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« Reply #570 on: June 26, 2020, 01:38:27 pm »

A rule No
No rule No
East rule No
West rule No
Yellow rule No
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« Reply #571 on: June 26, 2020, 01:40:44 pm »

A
No
West
East
Yellow

Also maybe this
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« Reply #572 on: June 26, 2020, 01:41:47 pm »

A Yes
No Yes
West No
East No
Yellow No

Also maybe this No
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« Reply #573 on: June 26, 2020, 05:29:48 pm »

Is it a we will out A No
is It A We Will Out a no
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« Reply #574 on: June 26, 2020, 05:34:01 pm »

Is it a we will out A No No
is It A We Will Out a no No
IsitawewilloutANo No
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« Reply #576 on: June 28, 2020, 08:05:16 am »

Is it Yes
a we Yes
will out No
A No Yes
each of those No
were yes Yes
individually No
clearly No
only yes words No
does not No
a yes question No
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l o
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ll ou
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« Reply #578 on: June 28, 2020, 02:51:44 pm »

can I still play?

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« Reply #579 on: June 28, 2020, 02:53:41 pm »

l o Yes
l out No
will o Yes
ll ou No
lo Yes
lol Yes

can I still play? No
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« Reply #580 on: June 28, 2020, 03:27:28 pm »

can I still play?

of course!

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« Reply #581 on: June 28, 2020, 03:28:45 pm »

of course! No

llou No
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« Reply #582 on: June 28, 2020, 03:31:34 pm »

rule
ule
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e
rul
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« Reply #583 on: June 28, 2020, 03:32:33 pm »

rule No
ule No
le Yes
e Yes
rul Yes
ru Yes
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« Reply #584 on: June 28, 2020, 04:30:33 pm »

tou
tuo
otu
uto
uot
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« Reply #585 on: June 28, 2020, 04:32:15 pm »

tou Yes
tuo Yes
otu No
uto No
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« Reply #586 on: June 28, 2020, 05:22:18 pm »

yes
say
zap
pun

hip
hop
uke
pan

otto
pooh
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« Reply #587 on: June 28, 2020, 05:25:00 pm »

yes Yes
say Yes
zap Yes
pun Yes

hip No
hop No
uke No
pan Yes

otto No
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« Reply #588 on: June 28, 2020, 05:26:42 pm »

app
iff
eek
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« Reply #589 on: June 28, 2020, 05:28:24 pm »

app Yes
iff Yes
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« Reply #590 on: June 28, 2020, 05:32:19 pm »

appa

the only one throwing me off is otto
but i think i have something
that fits the rest

whatever, i'll guess
and you'll only answer if i get it wrong

Guess: the question must not contain a series of three letters that go in the same direction in the alphabet (so abc is not okay because they go forward then forward but acb is because it goes forward then backward)
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« Reply #591 on: June 28, 2020, 05:43:14 pm »

Wrong, "otto" would pass but it fails.

appa No
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« Reply #592 on: June 28, 2020, 07:16:34 pm »

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« Reply #594 on: June 29, 2020, 04:55:05 am »

were yes were yes

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« Reply #599 on: June 29, 2020, 12:50:07 pm »

Just because I want a counterexample:

Guess: the question must not contain a series of three letters in the same direction. If a letter is repeated (like aa, but not aba), the second one, instead of counting as a letter, counts as a reverse function. So abb is two letters going towards the beginning. zyy is two letters going towards the end. abba is two pairs, abb (going towards the front) and bba (also going towards the front), so it doesn't count.

Okay, this probably isn't the rule, or else the rule was phrased much more simply than I can manage. But I want a counterexample.
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« Reply #600 on: June 29, 2020, 12:51:55 pm »

Correction: abba is the two pairs ab(b) and ba.
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« Reply #601 on: June 29, 2020, 12:55:10 pm »

Do I need to think about that guess?

Let's just assume you are Correct! as you essentially have the rule down, I just don't know if you realized why doubles work like the way they do.

The rule was the word passes if it follows a trend of going up/down or down/up continually. But if you repeated a letter it would count as going in either direction. The problem with, say, "otto", was that it went up, "down", and then down again, which didn't follow the rule.
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« Reply #602 on: June 29, 2020, 01:08:56 pm »

Dang, I was about to ask something like azbycx... because I was on that track, but hadn't thought through the repeated letters yet. Nice hheli
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« Reply #603 on: June 29, 2020, 01:14:31 pm »

Was that the most complex rule we ever had?

I've also thought about stuff with directions, but then concluded that I must be on the wrong track because if it had been something with that, surely I'd have found it.

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« Reply #604 on: June 29, 2020, 01:16:16 pm »

Was that the most complex rule we ever had?

I've also thought about stuff with directions, but then concluded that I must be on the wrong track because if it had been something with that, surely I'd have found it.

You did find it :P

I don't think so, but then again I wouldn't know how to classify complexity of rules.
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« Reply #605 on: June 29, 2020, 01:22:51 pm »

Did I? ???

Nothing wrong wit hard rules, anyway. But yeah, complexity isn't easy to quantify. The same rule will seem more intuitive to some than others.

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« Reply #606 on: June 29, 2020, 01:25:57 pm »

Did I? ???

Nothing wrong wit hard rules, anyway. But yeah, complexity isn't easy to quantify. The same rule will seem more intuitive to some than others.

Well you thought about it, so, kinda, yes.

I thought it was a really hard rule, but also one that would be caught eventually, even if not fully. In retrospect, the way repeated letters worked was a mess (they should've just invalidated the rule) but I didn't want to just remove a lot of otherwise good words due to that.
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« Reply #607 on: June 29, 2020, 01:32:37 pm »

@hhelibebcnofnena, remember, before when I didn't have a rule? I think I might have one now. (no idea if it's any good), if you're willing to let me take a shot as "host".
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« Reply #608 on: June 29, 2020, 01:37:51 pm »

I find it harder to follow rules with multiple pieces.
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« Reply #609 on: June 29, 2020, 03:17:50 pm »

@hhelibebcnofnena, remember, before when I didn't have a rule? I think I might have one now. (no idea if it's any good), if you're willing to let me take a shot as "host".

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« Reply #610 on: June 29, 2020, 03:27:54 pm »

The rule was the word passes if it follows a trend of going up/down or down/up continually. But if you repeated a letter it would count as going in either direction. The problem with, say, "otto", was that it went up, "down", and then down again, which didn't follow the rule.

That was the first phrasing I thought of, actually. But then I forgot about it because I was focused on the double letters, and I didn't remember that I had thought of a simple phrasing.
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« Reply #611 on: June 29, 2020, 03:36:49 pm »

Ok!

I have a rule.
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have No
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rule No
ok No
OK! No
words No
abc Yes
dfe No
xyz No
aeiou Yes
bccdg No
two words No
three small words Yes
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« Reply #616 on: June 29, 2020, 04:29:11 pm »

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sword
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hippopotomonstrosequipedaliophobi
hippopotomonstrosequipedaliophob
hippopotomonstrosequipedaliopho
hippopotomonstrosequipedalioph
hippopotomonstrosequipedaliop
hippopotomonstrosequipedalio
hippopotomonstrosequipedali
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hippopotomonstrosequiped
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« Reply #619 on: June 29, 2020, 06:15:28 pm »

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x No
w No
v No
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« Reply #620 on: June 29, 2020, 09:16:45 pm »

aeleuq
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« Reply #621 on: June 29, 2020, 09:23:23 pm »

hree small words
ree small words
ee small words
e small words
small words
mall words
all words
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« Reply #622 on: June 29, 2020, 10:19:01 pm »

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« Reply #623 on: June 30, 2020, 04:21:36 am »

abc
acb
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« Reply #624 on: June 30, 2020, 04:35:42 am »

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abcdefg

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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« Reply #627 on: June 30, 2020, 11:01:08 am »

abc Yes
acb Yes
bac Yes
bca Yes
cab Yes
cba Yes

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j No
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« Reply #628 on: June 30, 2020, 11:02:40 am »

a
aa
aaa
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« Reply #629 on: June 30, 2020, 11:06:11 am »

Guess: The word must contain at least one of the letter determined by the length of the word. (1=a, 2=b... 26=z, 27=a, etc.)
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« Reply #630 on: June 30, 2020, 11:08:58 am »

By word I mean question (I briefly forgot they could be more than one word)
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« Reply #631 on: June 30, 2020, 11:20:59 am »

Guess: The word must contain at least one of the letter determined by the length of the word. (1=a, 2=b... 26=z, 27=a, etc.)

I thought so much about letters as numbers in relation to the length of the word, and especially about how you could formulate a rule that would work only for a (among 1-letter words) but somehow this didn't occur to me. Really cool rule, too.

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« Reply #632 on: June 30, 2020, 11:29:53 am »

Guess: The word must contain at least one of the letter determined by the length of the word. (1=a, 2=b... 26=z, 27=a, etc.)

Yes, this correct!

(at first it was just going to be the first letter, so cab YES, abc, NO. But I thought there would be so many NOs that it would actually be even easier. So I audibled at last minute to be anywhere in the question.)

And, of course, just punctation had to contain the 0th letter, which I decided mean they were a YES.
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« Reply #633 on: June 30, 2020, 11:53:15 am »

Did you count the really long ones out yourself, or did you copy paste them into a letter counter, out of curiosity?
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« Reply #634 on: June 30, 2020, 11:54:45 am »

Also I have a rule
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« Reply #635 on: June 30, 2020, 11:55:35 am »

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« Reply #636 on: June 30, 2020, 11:57:04 am »

Did you count the really long ones out yourself, or did you copy paste them into a letter counter, out of curiosity?

I counted. :) It helped that I usually just had to count 1, and then just add or subtract 1 at a time...
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« Reply #637 on: June 30, 2020, 02:07:54 pm »

h No
he Yes
li Yes
be Yes
bc No
no Yes
fn No
ena No
no Yes
u No
word No
words No
two two No
three three three No
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« Reply #638 on: June 30, 2020, 02:19:25 pm »

Nononononono
no no no
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on on on
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onnoonno
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #641 on: June 30, 2020, 03:35:39 pm »

Guess: the number of vowels (aeiuo) needs to be the same as the number of other symbols

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« Reply #642 on: June 30, 2020, 04:16:37 pm »

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« Reply #643 on: June 30, 2020, 04:20:08 pm »

Guess: the number of vowels (aeiuo) needs to be the same as the number of other symbols

. Yes

how do you explain this

I think the rule is a little more specific. Guess: The number of vowels (aeiou) needs to be the same as the number of consonants.
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« Reply #644 on: June 30, 2020, 04:31:43 pm »

We haven't even checked y.

Very?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #645 on: June 30, 2020, 04:38:56 pm »

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« Reply #646 on: June 30, 2020, 05:17:09 pm »

Guess: the number of vowels (aeiuo) needs to be the same as the number of other symbols

. Yes

how do you explain this

I think the rule is a little more specific. Guess: The number of vowels (aeiou) needs to be the same as the number of consonants.

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« Reply #647 on: June 30, 2020, 05:32:10 pm »

It seems I was right about that rule being easy. I didn't really want to take too long on this one, since I just had a rule recently.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #648 on: June 30, 2020, 06:28:00 pm »

Guess: the number of vowels (aeiuo) needs to be the same as the number of other symbols

Dang it, that's the rule I was trying to confirm with my questions...
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« Reply #649 on: June 30, 2020, 06:28:56 pm »

Guess: the number of vowels (aeiuo) needs to be the same as the number of other symbols

Dang it, that's the rule I was trying to confirm with my questions...

well, the consonants version
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #650 on: June 30, 2020, 06:52:46 pm »

Guess: the number of vowels (aeiuo) needs to be the same as the number of other symbols

Dang it, that's the rule I was trying to confirm with my questions...

There's no penalty for guessing incorrectly, so you can always try to confirm by guessing... Maybe next time!
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #651 on: June 30, 2020, 07:41:27 pm »

I have a rule.
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« Reply #652 on: June 30, 2020, 08:10:56 pm »

Rules and schools are tools for fools.
I don't give two mules for rules.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #653 on: June 30, 2020, 08:13:17 pm »

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« Reply #654 on: June 30, 2020, 08:44:50 pm »

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« Reply #655 on: June 30, 2020, 09:35:14 pm »

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« Reply #656 on: July 01, 2020, 01:15:52 am »

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #657 on: July 01, 2020, 01:34:41 am »

Rules and schools are tools for fools. Yes
I don't give two mules for rules. Yes
- Constance Contraire Yes

what No
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making No
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« Reply #658 on: July 01, 2020, 01:37:24 am »

and?
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and sometimes longer?
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« Reply #659 on: July 01, 2020, 10:27:37 am »

and? No
and sometimes? Yes
and sometimes longer? Yes
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« Reply #660 on: July 01, 2020, 10:42:43 am »

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« Reply #661 on: July 01, 2020, 10:54:44 am »

sometimes No
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insight No
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« Reply #662 on: July 01, 2020, 11:01:52 am »

intro duce
intro
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« Reply #663 on: July 01, 2020, 11:06:02 am »

intro duce Yes
intro No
duce No
ecudortni Yes
troincedu Yes
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« Reply #664 on: July 01, 2020, 11:06:45 am »

introduc
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ntroduce
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a
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introduc No
introdu No
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ntroduce Yes
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« Reply #667 on: July 01, 2020, 11:31:59 am »

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« Reply #668 on: July 01, 2020, 11:35:42 am »

cdeinortu

cdeinort
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c

deinortu
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« Reply #669 on: July 01, 2020, 11:36:56 am »

ntrdc
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« Reply #670 on: July 01, 2020, 11:37:30 am »

nd smtms
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa No
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abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz Yes
zyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba Yes

cdeinortu Yes

cdeinort Yes
cdeinor Yes
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« Reply #672 on: July 01, 2020, 11:41:51 am »

sigh...

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« Reply #673 on: July 01, 2020, 11:42:47 am »

introduce some random sentence that is way too long for any human to truly comprehend what is being said here with any certainty
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sigh... No

cdein No

introduce some random sentence that is way too long for any human to truly comprehend what is being said here with any certainty Yes
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« Reply #675 on: July 01, 2020, 12:39:51 pm »

eino
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« Reply #676 on: July 01, 2020, 12:41:25 pm »

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« Reply #677 on: July 01, 2020, 12:58:44 pm »

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abcdefghij
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« Reply #678 on: July 01, 2020, 01:03:18 pm »

eino Yes
sometimes longer Yes

eno Yes
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noe Yes

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« Reply #679 on: July 01, 2020, 01:29:42 pm »

abcdefghijklmn
abcdefghijklmno
abcdefghijklmnop
abcdefghijklmnopq
abcdefghijklmnopqr

NONE SHALL PASS!
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« Reply #680 on: July 01, 2020, 01:34:31 pm »


two
three
four
five
six
seven
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« Reply #681 on: July 01, 2020, 01:35:31 pm »

abcdefghijklmn Yes
abcdefghijklmno Yes
abcdefghijklmnop Yes
abcdefghijklmnopq Yes
abcdefghijklmnopqr Yes

NONE SHALL PASS!  Yes
I am Arthur, King of the Britains, and I command you to move aside!  Yes
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FOR NO MAN! No
- Monty Python and the Holy Grail No

two Yes
three Yes
four Yes
five Yes
six Yes
seven Yes
eight Yes
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« Reply #682 on: July 01, 2020, 01:38:37 pm »

confirm, please:

give insight

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« Reply #683 on: July 01, 2020, 01:39:46 pm »

Guess: the word needs to contain all letters of at least one number (spelled out)

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« Reply #684 on: July 01, 2020, 02:08:04 pm »

Guess: the word needs to contain all letters of at least one number (spelled out)

That was going to be my guess!
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« Reply #685 on: July 01, 2020, 02:09:59 pm »

Guess: the word needs to contain all letters of at least one number (spelled out)

That was going to be my guess!

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- Monty Python and the Holy Grail No
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« Reply #686 on: July 01, 2020, 02:11:37 pm »

- two
two -
two?
two!
two two
two. two
two. two.

Maybe:
Guess: the word needs to contain all letters of at least one number (spelled out) AND start with a letter.
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« Reply #687 on: July 01, 2020, 02:12:58 pm »

- Constance Contraire Yes

Nope, starting with a letter not required.
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« Reply #688 on: July 01, 2020, 02:13:53 pm »

Guess: the word needs to contain all letters of at least one number (spelled out)

Correct!

Guess: the word needs to contain all letters of at least one number (spelled out)

That was going to be my guess!

But wait:

- Monty Python and the Holy Grail No


That doesn't contain an "e" (ruling out one, three, five, seven, eight, nine, zero), no "w" for two, no "f" for four, no "x" for six.
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« Reply #689 on: July 01, 2020, 02:14:30 pm »

Quote fail.

Guess: the word needs to contain all letters of at least one number (spelled out)

That was going to be my guess!

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« Reply #690 on: July 01, 2020, 02:14:59 pm »

Guess: the word needs to contain all letters of at least one number (spelled out)

Correct!

Guess: the word needs to contain all letters of at least one number (spelled out)

That was going to be my guess!

But wait:

- Monty Python and the Holy Grail No


That doesn't contain an "e" (ruling out one, three, five, seven, eight, nine, zero), no "w" for two, no "f" for four, no "x" for six.

^^^
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« Reply #691 on: July 01, 2020, 02:16:19 pm »


- Monty Python and the Holy Grail No
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« Reply #692 on: July 01, 2020, 02:17:14 pm »

Aw man, your quote fail made my quote fail...


- Monty Python and the Holy Grail No


That doesn't contain an "e" (ruling out one, three, five, seven, eight, nine, zero), no "w" for two, no "f" for four, no "x" for six.

ppe 1, yeah, that!
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« Reply #693 on: July 01, 2020, 02:21:10 pm »

Guess: the word needs to contain all letters of at least one number (spelled out)

That was going to be my guess!

I, too, felt robbed last round :'(

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« Reply #694 on: July 01, 2020, 02:21:21 pm »

I have a rule.

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« Reply #695 on: July 01, 2020, 02:24:04 pm »

Guess: the word needs to contain all letters of at least one number (spelled out)

That was going to be my guess!

I, too, felt robbed last round :'(

Good pont.
Plus
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« Reply #696 on: July 01, 2020, 02:27:08 pm »

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« Reply #697 on: July 01, 2020, 02:31:32 pm »

Good pont. yes
Plus yes
you have a rule yes
and yes
I can't be mad yes
since you yes
thought yes
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last yes
rule yes
was yes
cool yes

Ah, crap, my bad. yes

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« Reply #698 on: July 01, 2020, 02:34:24 pm »

guess: everything is yes, except the "my" string.
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« Reply #699 on: July 01, 2020, 02:34:56 pm »

guess: everything is yes, except the "my" string.

Correct!

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« Reply #700 on: July 01, 2020, 02:35:10 pm »

jk no

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« Reply #701 on: July 01, 2020, 02:36:16 pm »

lazy.
but
might
be
true.

PPE:
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« Reply #702 on: July 01, 2020, 02:37:00 pm »

I also love that we got the new page, keeping the suspense.

also

yo
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myre
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« Reply #703 on: July 01, 2020, 02:40:27 pm »

I also love that we got the new page, keeping the suspense. yes

also yes

yo yes
you yes
myre yes
mire yes

lazy. yes
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might yes
be yes
true. yes

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« Reply #704 on: July 01, 2020, 02:42:22 pm »

thisthisthisthisthisthis
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« Reply #705 on: July 01, 2020, 02:43:03 pm »

thisthisthisthisthisthis no

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« Reply #706 on: July 01, 2020, 02:47:52 pm »

why?
pi?
pie?
firefly?
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why? no
pi? yes
pie? yes
firefly? yes

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« Reply #708 on: July 01, 2020, 06:16:31 pm »

also this
My, my.
My oh my.
My my my my my my my my
Mine
Is "my" even a real word any more?
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« Reply #709 on: July 01, 2020, 06:17:42 pm »

a
b
c
d
e
f
g
h
i
j
k
l
m
n
o
p
q
r
s
t
u
v
w
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apology
accepted
(by
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« Reply #711 on: July 02, 2020, 03:29:37 am »

also this no
My, my. yes
My oh my. no
My my my my my my my my yes
Mine no
Is "my" even a real word any more? no
Umbrella no

a no
b no
c yes
d no
e no
f yes
g no
h yes
i yes
j yes
k yes
l yes
m yes
n yes
o no
p no
q no
r yes
s yes
t yes
u yes
v yes
w yes
x yes
y yes
z yes

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« Reply #712 on: July 02, 2020, 03:32:04 am »

OH WAIT IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND OUPS.

Sorry! I inverted the rule. Only in the last post. My bad. The answers should all be flipped.

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« Reply #713 on: July 02, 2020, 03:38:33 am »

Here is the correct one: :-[

also this yes
My, my. no
My oh my. yes
My my my my my my my my no
Mine yes
Is "my" even a real word any more? yes
Umbrella yes

a yes
b yes
c no
d yes
e yes
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g yes
h no
i no
j no
k no
l no
m no
n no
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p yes
q yes
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t no
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x no
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« Reply #714 on: July 02, 2020, 07:14:59 am »

Guess: it should contain a letter that has a hole in it, like b, a, o, etc
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« Reply #715 on: July 02, 2020, 07:33:24 am »

Guess: it should contain a topological subspace that is homeomorphic to the circle

Correct!

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« Reply #716 on: July 02, 2020, 07:35:20 am »

I have it on good authority that a component you can look out of is the most powerful thing in Dominion Zendo Questions

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Guess: it should contain a topological subspace that is homeomorphic to the circle

So
B
would have been no, but
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« Reply #718 on: July 02, 2020, 11:22:34 am »

I have a rule
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« Reply #719 on: July 02, 2020, 11:29:11 am »

Life before Death
Strength before Weakness
Journey before Destination

The Knights Radiant must stand again
right?
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« Reply #720 on: July 02, 2020, 11:53:14 am »

The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind
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« Reply #721 on: July 02, 2020, 11:54:24 am »

Keep
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Life before Death Yes
Strength before Weakness Yes
Journey before Destination Yes

The Knights Radiant must stand again Yes
right? No

The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind Yes
The Yes
answer Yes
is No
blowing Yes
in Yes
the Yes
wind Yes

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Knights Yes
Radiant Yes
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« Reply #723 on: July 02, 2020, 01:48:47 pm »

s
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si
ni
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« Reply #724 on: July 02, 2020, 01:52:07 pm »

s No
n No
si Yes
ni Yes
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peek
thgir
nwod
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« Reply #726 on: July 02, 2020, 05:02:52 pm »

peek No
thgir Yes
nwod No

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« Reply #728 on: July 02, 2020, 06:19:38 pm »

htgir Yes
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« Reply #729 on: July 02, 2020, 06:26:12 pm »

(some of these will be repeated, but I want them all next to each other)

right
rigth
rihgt
rihtg
ritgh
rithg
rgith
rgiht
rghti
rghit
rgthi
rgtih
rhigt
rhitg
rhgit
rhgti
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grthi
grtih
griht
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gihrt
gihtr
gitrh
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ghtir
ghtri
ghrit
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gtirh
gtihr
gthri
gthir
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« Reply #730 on: July 02, 2020, 06:31:10 pm »

that's
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that's
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sudgy.

But
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And I realized, by repeated, I meant from earlier questions.  Everything I said in that post was unique.
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« Reply #733 on: July 02, 2020, 08:21:10 pm »

Couldn't you have tried it with a four letter word first?
120
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« Reply #734 on: July 02, 2020, 08:47:56 pm »

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« Reply #735 on: July 03, 2020, 03:07:02 am »

right No
rigth Yes
rihgt Yes
rihtg No
ritgh No
rithg Yes
rgith Yes
rgiht Yes
rghti Yes
rghit Yes
rgthi Yes
rgtih Yes
rhigt Yes
rhitg Yes
rhgit Yes
rhgti Yes
rhtig Yes
rhtgi Yes
rtihg Yes
rtigh Yes
rtghi No
rtgih No
rthgi Yes
rthig Yes
irtgh Yes
irthg Yes
irgth Yes
irght Yes
irhtg Yes
irhgt Yes
igthr Yes
igtrh Yes
igrht Yes
igrth Yes
ighrt No
ightr No
ihtrg Yes
ihtgr No
ihrtg No
ihrgt Yes
ihgtr Yes
ihgrt Yes
ithgr Yes
ithrg Yes
itrgh Yes
itrhg Yes
itgrh Yes
itghr No
grhti Yes
grhit Yes
grthi Yes
grtih Yes
griht No
grith Yes
gihrt No
gihtr No
gitrh Yes
githr Yes
girth Yes
girht Yes
ghitr No
ghirt Yes
ghtir Yes
ghtri No
ghrit No
ghrti Yes
gtirh Yes
gtihr Yes
gthri Yes
gthir Yes
gtrhi Yes
gtrih No
hrigt No
hritg No
hrgit Yes
hrgti Yes
hrtig Yes
hrtgi Yes
hirtg Yes
hirgt Yes
higtr No
higrt No
hitgr No
hitrg Yes
hgrit Yes
hgrti Yes
hgirt Yes
hgitr Yes
hgtri Yes
hgtir Yes
htrgi Yes
htrig No
htigr Yes
htirg Yes
htgir Yes
htgri No
trhig Yes
trhgi Yes
trihg Yes
trigh No
trghi Yes
trgih Yes
tihgr Yes
tihrg Yes
tirgh Yes
tirhg Yes
tigrh Yes
tighr Yes
tghri No
tghir Yes
tgrhi Yes
tgrih No
tgihr No
tgirh Yes
thgir Yes
thgri Yes
thrig Yes
thrgi Yes
thirg Yes
thigr Yes

that's Yes
cruel, Yes
sudgy. No

But No
won't No
it No
be Yes
helpful? Yes

And I realized, by repeated, I meant from earlier questions.  Everything I said in that post was unique.  Yes

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120 No
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« Reply #736 on: July 03, 2020, 03:53:02 pm »

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« Reply #737 on: July 03, 2020, 04:58:47 pm »

1 No
2 No
3 No
4 No
5 No
6 No
7 No
8 No
9 No
0 No
10 No
11 No
12 No
13 No
14 No
15 No
16 No
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« Reply #738 on: July 04, 2020, 07:36:54 pm »

Well that’s pretty definitive about that then
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« Reply #739 on: July 05, 2020, 05:29:57 am »

Well that’s pretty definitive about that then Yes
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« Reply #740 on: July 08, 2020, 02:33:21 am »

bump?
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« Reply #741 on: July 08, 2020, 03:44:12 am »

I was just going to sit out one round...

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« Reply #742 on: July 08, 2020, 11:25:55 am »

I was just going to sit out one round... Yes
 
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« Reply #743 on: July 08, 2020, 12:14:52 pm »

Let's try it with a four letter word

scum
scmu
smcu
smuc
sumc
sucm
cums
cusm
cmus
cmsu
csmu
csum
umsc
umcs
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uscm
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« Reply #744 on: July 08, 2020, 04:43:48 pm »

Let's try it with a four letter word Yes

scum Yes
scmu Yes
smcu Yes
smuc Yes
sumc Yes
sucm Yes
cums Yes
cusm Yes
cmus Yes
cmsu Yes
csmu Yes
csum Yes
umsc Yes
umcs Yes
usmc Yes
uscm Yes
ucms Yes
ucsm Yes
musc Yes
mucs Yes
mcus Yes
mcsu Yes
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« Reply #745 on: July 08, 2020, 04:45:54 pm »

What

music
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« Reply #746 on: July 08, 2020, 04:51:42 pm »

What Yes

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« Reply #747 on: July 08, 2020, 04:53:08 pm »

I am sorry, I had no idea this would be hard Yes
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« Reply #748 on: July 08, 2020, 04:54:24 pm »

I sorry, I had idea would No
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« Reply #749 on: July 08, 2020, 04:54:51 pm »

why is this so complicated

msauc
msbuc
mscuc
msduc
mseuc
msfuc
msguc
mshuc

msjuc
mskuc
msluc
msmuc
msnuc
msouc
mspuc
msquc
msruc
mssuc
mstuc
msuuc
msvuc
mswuc
msxuc
msyuc
mszuc

I am sorry, I had no idea this would be hard Yes

Maybe it's more simple than these examples make it appear

Regardless we're clearly in the wrong track, although this is a one-size-fits-all way of getting to the rule so we'll get there eventually.
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« Reply #750 on: July 08, 2020, 05:00:41 pm »

why is this so complicated Yes

msauc Yes
msbuc Yes
mscuc Yes
msduc No
mseuc Yes
msfuc No
msguc Yes
mshuc No

msjuc No
mskuc No
msluc Yes
msmuc Yes
msnuc Yes
msouc No
mspuc Yes
msquc No
msruc Yes
mssuc No
mstuc No
msuuc No
msvuc No
mswuc No
msxuc No
msyuc No
mszuc No

I am sorry, I had no idea this would be hard Yes

Maybe it's more simple than these examples make it appear Yes

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« Reply #751 on: July 08, 2020, 05:51:17 pm »

am no this hard
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« Reply #752 on: July 08, 2020, 06:18:18 pm »

am no this hard Yes
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« Reply #753 on: July 08, 2020, 06:20:40 pm »

am no this be hard
am
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be
hard

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dmsuc
emsuc
fmsuc
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hmsuc

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nmsuc
omsuc
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« Reply #754 on: July 08, 2020, 06:26:03 pm »

am no this be hard Yes
am Yes
no No
this Yes
be Yes
hard Yes

amsuc Yes
bmsuc No
cmsuc Yes
dmsuc No
emsuc No
fmsuc Yes
gmsuc No
hmsuc No

jmsuc No
kmsuc No
lmsuc No
mmsuc No
nmsuc No
omsuc No
pmsuc Yes
qmsuc No
rmsuc No
smsuc Yes
tmsuc Yes
umsuc No
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xmsuc No
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« Reply #755 on: July 08, 2020, 07:41:07 pm »

Ok, does anyone have any ideas they're just trying to refine or something, because I have no idea.
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« Reply #756 on: July 08, 2020, 07:49:35 pm »

Ok, does anyone have any ideas they're just trying to refine or something, because I have no idea.

I'm completely lost and will revert to treating letters as numbers once I get around confirming there's no pattern.

But overall order matters, and that's always the hard part. Also feels like every letter works, so most likely some weird formula that takes every letter (and only letters?) into account.
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« Reply #757 on: July 08, 2020, 08:31:04 pm »

I sorry, I had idea would am
I sorry, I had idea would no
I sorry, I had idea would this
I sorry, I had idea would be
I sorry, I had idea would hard

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« Reply #758 on: July 08, 2020, 08:32:29 pm »

Ok, does anyone have any ideas they're just trying to refine or something, because I have no idea.

I'm completely lost and will revert to treating letters as numbers once I get around confirming there's no pattern.

But overall order matters, and that's always the hard part. Also feels like every letter works, so most likely some weird formula that takes every letter (and only letters?) into account.

Right, and I've done some of that too,
but the abc no every other combo yes
is messing with any ideas I've had
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« Reply #759 on: July 08, 2020, 09:41:52 pm »

I am completely lost too.
But I think that question will return yes.
And so will this one.

msua
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msud
msue
msuf
msug
msuh
msui
msuj
msuk
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« Reply #760 on: July 08, 2020, 11:03:58 pm »

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bdc
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cdb
dbc
dcb

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dce
dec
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aec
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« Reply #761 on: July 09, 2020, 02:58:52 am »

Ok, does anyone have any ideas they're just trying to refine or something, because I have no idea. Yes

I'm completely lost and will revert to treating letters as numbers once I get around confirming there's no pattern. Yes

But overall order matters, and that's always the hard part. Also feels like every letter works, so most likely some weird formula that takes every letter (and only letters?) into account. Yes

I sorry, I had idea would am Yes
I sorry, I had idea would no Yes
I sorry, I had idea would this Yes
I sorry, I had idea would be Yes
I sorry, I had idea would hard Yes

a No
b No
c No
d No
e No
f No
g No
h No
i No
j No
k No
l No
m No
n No
o No
p No
q No
r No
s No
t No
u No
v No
w No
x No
y No
z No

Right, and I've done some of that too, Yes
but the abc no every other combo yes Yes
is messing with any ideas I've had Yes

I am completely lost too. Yes
But I think that question will return yes. Yes
And so will this one. Yes

msua No
msub No

msud No
msue No
msuf No
msug No
msuh No
msui No
msuj No
msuk No
msul No
msum No
msun No
msuo No
msup No
msuq No
msur No
msus No
msut No
msuu No
msuv No
msuw No
msux No
msuy No
msuz No

bcd Yes
bdc No
cbd No
cdb Yes
dbc Yes
dcb No

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ced Yes
dce Yes
dec No
ecd Yes
edc No

ace Yes
aec No
cae Yes
cea Yes
eac Yes
eca Yes
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« Reply #762 on: July 09, 2020, 03:00:24 am »

maybe, just maybe this is a bit harder than I thought it would be. I could give hints?
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« Reply #763 on: July 09, 2020, 03:13:47 am »

alright, I can give a hint in spoilers: I drew an inspiration for the rule from the nickname of one of the players.
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« Reply #764 on: July 09, 2020, 05:39:00 am »

cm
fm
pm
sm
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« Reply #765 on: July 09, 2020, 09:13:03 am »

cm Yes
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pm Yes
sm Yes
tm Yes
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« Reply #766 on: July 09, 2020, 11:51:23 am »

Haven't checked that this works everywhere in all of the already answered ones, but

Guess: The question must contain a two-letter abbreviation for an element.
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« Reply #767 on: July 09, 2020, 11:55:29 am »

Haven't checked that this works everywhere in all of the already answered ones, but

Guess: The question must contain a two-letter abbreviation for an element.

And this is correct!
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« Reply #768 on: July 09, 2020, 12:12:05 pm »

I have a rule
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« Reply #769 on: July 09, 2020, 12:23:59 pm »

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banana
cherry
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« Reply #770 on: July 09, 2020, 12:29:56 pm »

a No
aa Yes
aaa No
apple Yes
banana No
cherry No
two apples No
three apples No
the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog No
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« Reply #771 on: July 09, 2020, 12:31:08 pm »

Haven't checked that this works everywhere in all of the already answered ones, but

Guess: The question must contain a two-letter abbreviation for an element.

And this is correct!

Come on! I should have guessed this. I've even done a very similar rule myself in the past, just before the long break in this thread! I guess I understand now why that one was so hard. I was at least getting close, I think.
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« Reply #772 on: July 09, 2020, 12:45:09 pm »

apple pie?
would you like some apple pie?
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« Reply #773 on: July 09, 2020, 12:48:51 pm »

Guess: Taking a=1, b=2, ..., z=26, summing the value of letters in the question, return yes iff. the total value is even.
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« Reply #774 on: July 09, 2020, 01:27:05 pm »

Haven't checked that this works everywhere in all of the already answered ones, but

Guess: The question must contain a two-letter abbreviation for an element.

And this is correct!

Come on! I should have guessed this. I've even done a very similar rule myself in the past, just before the long break in this thread! I guess I understand now why that one was so hard. I was at least getting close, I think.

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« Reply #775 on: July 09, 2020, 01:34:21 pm »

Come on! I should have guessed this. I've even done a very similar rule myself in the past, just before the long break in this thread! I guess I understand now why that one was so hard. I was at least getting close, I think. No

apple pie? No
would you like some apple pie? Yes
let's all eat apple pie together Yes

yeah! I looked at your nickname and immediately came up with that :D Yes

Guess: Taking a=1, b=2, ..., z=26, summing the value of letters in the question, return yes iff. the total value is even.

Wrong, see joth's apple pie question
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« Reply #776 on: July 09, 2020, 01:36:17 pm »

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« Reply #777 on: July 09, 2020, 03:25:22 pm »

pineapple
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« Reply #778 on: July 09, 2020, 03:56:43 pm »

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appleappleapple Yes
appleappleappleapple Yes

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« Reply #779 on: July 09, 2020, 06:15:09 pm »

b
bb
bbb
bbbb
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bananabanana
bananabananabanana
bananabananabananabanana
bananabananabananabananabanana

cherrycherry
cherrycherrycherry
cherrycherrycherrycherry
cherrycherrycherrycherrycherry

apple pie apple pie
apple pie apple pie apple pie
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« Reply #780 on: July 09, 2020, 07:49:25 pm »

aple
apleaple

aple pie
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« Reply #781 on: July 09, 2020, 07:51:49 pm »

Guess: If the most frequently occurring letter occurs an even  number of times, yes. If it appears an odd number of times no.
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« Reply #782 on: July 09, 2020, 08:03:36 pm »

Guess: If the most frequently occurring letter occurs an even  number of times, yes. If it appears an odd number of times no.

I thought the same thing, but:

pineapple Yes
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« Reply #783 on: July 09, 2020, 08:54:44 pm »

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bbbb Yes
bbbbb Yes

bananabanana Yes
bananabananabanana No
bananabananabananabanana Yes
bananabananabananabananabanana No

cherrycherry Yes
cherrycherrycherry No
cherrycherrycherrycherry Yes
cherrycherrycherrycherrycherry No

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apple pie apple pie apple pie Yes
apple pie apple pie apple pie apple pie Yes
apple pie apple pie apple pie apple pie apple pie Yes

aple Yes
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« Reply #784 on: July 09, 2020, 08:59:17 pm »

apple pie
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« Reply #786 on: July 09, 2020, 09:12:49 pm »

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« Reply #787 on: July 09, 2020, 09:26:00 pm »

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@ Yes
@@ Yes
# No
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$ Yes
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« Reply #788 on: July 09, 2020, 09:42:10 pm »

Guess: Return yes iff. the sum of the ASCII values of all characters is even.
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« Reply #789 on: July 09, 2020, 10:26:08 pm »

Guess: Return yes iff. the sum of the ASCII values of all characters is even.

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« Reply #790 on: July 09, 2020, 10:49:08 pm »

Guess: Return yes iff. the sum of the ASCII values of all characters is even.

Correct!  I felt bad after your first guess.

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« Reply #791 on: July 10, 2020, 12:59:50 am »

Guess: Return yes iff. the sum of the ASCII values of all characters is even.

Correct!  I felt bad after your first guess.
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« Reply #792 on: July 10, 2020, 01:15:19 am »

Guessing time
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« Reply #793 on: July 10, 2020, 01:30:12 am »

Guessing time No
avocado No
brussels sprouts No
cauliflower No
donut No
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« Reply #794 on: July 10, 2020, 01:00:56 pm »

Guess: It's just always no
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« Reply #795 on: July 10, 2020, 01:09:27 pm »

Guess: It's just always no

Incorrect, here is a counterexample:

green beans Yes
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Guess: Everything returns no except "green beans"

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Star Wars
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jk No

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Star Wars No
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« Reply #798 on: July 14, 2020, 06:26:01 pm »

Has everyone given up on this game? Yes
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« Reply #799 on: July 14, 2020, 06:32:36 pm »

Mobile
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Very No
Sad. No

Jelly Yes
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« Reply #801 on: September 16, 2020, 04:23:38 am »

Guess: Yes <=> Contains a word which contains a letter whose position in the alphabet equals the word length
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Guess: Yes <=> Contains a word which contains a letter whose position in the alphabet equals the word length

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« Reply #803 on: September 16, 2020, 03:40:10 pm »

I have a rule

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Oh yeah this got necro'd
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And I might
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« Reply #808 on: September 18, 2020, 04:46:06 am »

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« Reply #809 on: September 18, 2020, 04:52:32 am »

posts
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« Reply #813 on: September 18, 2020, 12:11:27 pm »

two eighteen
eighteen two
som etimethe
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« Reply #814 on: September 20, 2020, 02:20:49 am »

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« Reply #815 on: September 20, 2020, 05:51:05 am »

Well then.

333 1
333 22
333 333
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333 7777777
333 88888888
333 999999999

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« Reply #816 on: September 20, 2020, 03:21:17 pm »

Well then. No

333 1 No
333 22 No
333 333 No
333 4444 No
333 55555 No
333 666666 No
333 7777777 No
333 88888888 No
333 999999999 No

333 88888888 1 No
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« Reply #817 on: September 20, 2020, 03:23:23 pm »

two eightee
two eighte
two eight
two eigh
two eig
two ei
two e
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wo eighteen
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« Reply #818 on: September 21, 2020, 03:40:56 am »

two eightee No
two eighte No
two eight No
two eigh No
two eig No
two ei No
two e No
two No

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« Reply #819 on: November 16, 2021, 04:04:06 pm »

Did no-one ever solve this?

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« Reply #821 on: November 17, 2021, 05:00:06 am »

ttt oooooooo
ttt nnnnnnnn
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noo oooooooo
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« Reply #822 on: November 17, 2021, 05:50:41 am »

ttt oooooooo Yes
ttt nnnnnnnn Yes
ooo nnnnnnnn Yes
noo oooooooo Yes
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« Reply #823 on: November 17, 2021, 05:56:21 am »

n o
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« Reply #824 on: November 17, 2021, 05:59:19 am »

en en
do do
en do
do en
nd nd

o eighteen
n eighteen
d eighteen
a eighteen
o eighteenx
o eighteeny
o eighteend
o eighteeno
o eighteend

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« Reply #825 on: November 17, 2021, 09:00:24 am »

aeiou
aeiouy
aeio
aei
aue
eua
yuoiea
a e i o u
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« Reply #826 on: November 17, 2021, 10:02:43 am »

n o No
no No
No No
N o No
T o No
Ot No

en en No
do do No
en do No
do en No
nd nd No

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n eighteen Yes
d eighteen Yes
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o eighteeny Yes
o eighteend Yes
o eighteeno Yes
o eighteend Yes

o sphinx of black quarz judge my vow Yes (quarz or quartz?)

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« Reply #827 on: November 17, 2021, 10:18:46 am »

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« Reply #828 on: November 17, 2021, 10:26:30 am »

I butchered it, its quartz and without the o

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oeighteen
z eighteen
v eighteen
t eighteen
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« Reply #830 on: November 17, 2021, 11:48:43 am »

qwwrtpsdfghjklzxcvbnm?
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z zzzzzzzz Yes

I butchered it, its quartz and without the o Yes

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oeighteen No
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Zendo Questions No

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« Reply #833 on: November 17, 2021, 03:13:57 pm »

sphinx of black quartz judge my vow
o sphinx of black quartz judge my vow
sphinx of black quarz judge my vow
o sphinx of black quarz judge my vow
sphinx of black quart judge my vow
o sphinx of black quart judge my vow

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« Reply #834 on: November 17, 2021, 03:17:21 pm »

z zzzzzzz
z zzzzzz
z zzzzz
y yyyyyyy
y yyyyyy
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« Reply #835 on: November 19, 2021, 03:46:58 am »

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o sphinx of black quartz judge my vow Yes
sphinx of black quarz judge my vow No
o sphinx of black quarz judge my vow Yes
sphinx of black quart judge my vow No
o sphinx of black quart judge my vow Yes

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z zzzzzz Yes
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« Reply #836 on: November 19, 2021, 03:54:34 am »

Guess: a sentence satisfies the rule iff one word in it has at least 5 more letters than another word
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« Reply #837 on: November 19, 2021, 03:56:01 am »

Guess: a sentence satisfies the rule iff one word in it has at least 5 more letters than another word
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« Reply #838 on: November 19, 2021, 04:08:31 am »

Woop!

O sphinx, thank you.

I have a rule

It's a bit mean though.
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« Reply #839 on: November 19, 2021, 05:51:42 am »

Is it really a bit mean?
Is it a 32-bit or a 64-bit mean?
What does it mean to be mean?
Tell this soul with sorrow laden if, within the distant Aidenn, it shall clasp a sainted maiden whom the angels name Lenore?
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Is it really a bit mean? No
Is it a 32-bit or a 64-bit mean? Yes
What does it mean to be mean? No
Tell this soul with sorrow laden if, within the distant Aidenn, it shall clasp a sainted maiden whom the angels name Lenore? No
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Really a bit mean?
A 32-bit or a 64-bit mean?
Is Rei better than Asuka?
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« Reply #842 on: November 19, 2021, 07:18:36 am »

Really a bit mean? No
A 32-bit or a 64-bit mean? No
Is Rei better than Asuka? Yes

Is it a 32-bit or a 64-bit mean? No

Let it be known that doing this on mobile is not trivial. Yes
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« Reply #843 on: November 19, 2021, 08:28:28 am »

It?
Is?
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« Reply #844 on: November 19, 2021, 08:44:57 am »

Guess: Yes <=> Contains a word with exactly 3 syllables (hyphenated words counting as single word).
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« Reply #845 on: November 19, 2021, 09:01:34 am »

It? Yes
Is? Yes

Guess: Yes <=> Contains a word with exactly 3 syllables (hyphenated words counting as single word).

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« Reply #846 on: November 23, 2021, 02:27:50 pm »

World crawls
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An endless search for a perfect season
Tower
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the
sea
sees
seals
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something something something something something something

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« Reply #848 on: November 23, 2021, 02:37:24 pm »

World crawls No
around its axis No
An endless search for a perfect season No
Tower No
claws No
over No
the No
treetops Yes

the No
sea No
sees No
seals No
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« Reply #849 on: November 23, 2021, 03:12:49 pm »

salt salt salt
salt saw salt
salt saw salty salt
tree
treetop
treetops
treetops salt
salt treetops
salt trees
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« Reply #850 on: November 23, 2021, 03:16:54 pm »

salt salt salt Yes
salt saw salt No
salt saw salty salt No
tree No
treetop No
treetops Yes
treetops salt No
salt treetops No
salt trees Yes
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salt salt
treetops treetops
treetopz
tree tops
trees salt
salt saw salt saw
trees

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« Reply #852 on: November 23, 2021, 03:30:35 pm »

salt salt No
treetops treetops No
treetopz Yes
tree tops No
trees salt Yes
salt saw salt saw No
trees No
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saltsalt
treetopt
treetope
Hannah
Ava
Aviva
Anna
Eve
Bob
Otto

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« Reply #854 on: November 23, 2021, 04:16:21 pm »

saltsalt No
treetopt Yes
treetope No
Hannah No
Ava No
Aviva No
Anna No
Eve No
Bob No
Otto No
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« Reply #855 on: November 23, 2021, 04:46:26 pm »

this feels like giving up on the hard way but alas
treetopa
treetopb
treetopc
treetopd
treetope
treetopx
treetopy
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treetopr
treetopp
treetopo
t r e e t o p
tr ee top

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this feels like giving up on the hard way but alas Yes
treetopa No
treetopb Yes
treetopc Yes
treetopd Yes
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« Reply #858 on: November 23, 2021, 05:11:04 pm »

treetopr Yes
treetopp Yes
treetopo No
t r e e t o p No
tr ee top No
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« Reply #859 on: November 23, 2021, 05:16:11 pm »

oo
ow
uw
uh
um
mm
oow
wow

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« Reply #860 on: November 23, 2021, 05:17:44 pm »

oo?
ow?
uw?
o?

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« Reply #861 on: November 23, 2021, 05:20:21 pm »

Never mind.

Guess: Both the number of vowels and the number of consonants must be odd.

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oo No
ow Yes
uw Yes
uh Yes
um Yes
mm No
oow No
wow No
oo? No
ow? Yes
uw? Yes
o? No

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n o No
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« Reply #863 on: November 23, 2021, 05:22:29 pm »

but I was already celebrating my win :'(

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« Reply #864 on: November 23, 2021, 05:23:51 pm »

??
nn oo on
no!?!

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« Reply #865 on: November 23, 2021, 05:24:59 pm »

no no

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« Reply #866 on: November 23, 2021, 05:25:42 pm »

oom nom

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« Reply #867 on: November 23, 2021, 05:27:33 pm »

but I was already celebrating my win :'(

but I was already celebrating my win No

?? No
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« Reply #868 on: November 23, 2021, 05:30:29 pm »

!
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no!
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« Reply #869 on: November 23, 2021, 05:34:26 pm »

! No
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!!! No
no Yes
no! Yes
no!! Yes
no!!! Yes
no? Yes
no?? Yes
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« Reply #870 on: November 23, 2021, 05:36:10 pm »

Guess: the number of vowels, consonants, and words must all be odd.

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« Reply #871 on: November 23, 2021, 05:41:05 pm »

Guess: the number of vowels, consonants, and words must all be odd.

No:

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« Reply #872 on: November 23, 2021, 05:49:41 pm »

notoo
no too
too no
not oo
oo not

oh no
oh noo
o no
o noo

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« Reply #873 on: November 23, 2021, 05:51:40 pm »

notoo No
no too Yes
too no Yes
not oo Yes
oo not Yes

oh no No
oh noo Yes
o no No
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« Reply #874 on: November 23, 2021, 06:04:50 pm »

m m
n o
o o
p hd
m op
m oo
o oo
xx xx
pa ss
xo xo
oy oo
oo oo

BRUTE STRENGTH

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m m No
n o No
o o No
p hd No
m op Yes
m oo No
o oo Yes
xx xx No
pa ss No
xo xo No
ot oo No
oo oo No

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« Reply #876 on: November 24, 2021, 07:32:09 am »

mop
m op
mp o
mo p
o mp

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« Reply #877 on: November 24, 2021, 08:23:43 am »

mop No
m op Yes
mp o Yes
mo p Yes
o mp Yes
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« Reply #878 on: November 24, 2021, 09:33:00 am »

OII IO
I cooe
we see
om nom
my gym

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« Reply #879 on: November 24, 2021, 09:34:03 am »

sphi x

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« Reply #880 on: November 24, 2021, 10:06:00 am »

can I say jacuzzi undemanding by six?
can I say jacuzzi undemanding by six ?
I can say jacuzzi undemanding by six
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« Reply #881 on: November 24, 2021, 11:02:41 am »

OII IO Yes
I cooe No
we see Yes
om nom No
my gym No
sphi x Yes

can I say jacuzzi undemanding by six? Yes
can I say jacuzzi undemanding by six ? No
I can say jacuzzi undemanding by six Yes
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« Reply #882 on: November 24, 2021, 11:40:05 am »

OIIII IO
xoxoo IO
xxoxx IO
xxoxx xx

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« Reply #883 on: November 24, 2021, 12:16:40 pm »

OIIII IO Yes
xoxoo IO Yes
xxoxx IO Yes
xxoxx xx Yes
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« Reply #884 on: November 24, 2021, 12:22:49 pm »

o o o
o xo o
o xo xo

x o o
xo x o
xo xo x

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« Reply #885 on: November 24, 2021, 12:52:12 pm »

Call it     the woodpecker.
The woodpecker?
It needs more of a pause for effect :
...     the woodpecker.
...  the woodpecker?
The        woodpecker?
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« Reply #886 on: November 24, 2021, 02:07:05 pm »

o o o No
o xo o Yes
o xo xo No

x o o No
xo x o No
xo xo x No

Call it     the woodpecker. Yes
The woodpecker? Yes
It needs more of a pause for effect : No
...     the woodpecker. No
...  the woodpecker? No
The        woodpecker? Yes
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« Reply #887 on: November 24, 2021, 02:18:55 pm »

can I say jacuzzi undemanding by six
but I say jacuzzi undemanding by six
but I was jacuzzi undemanding by six
but I was already undemanding by six
but I was already celebrating by six
but I was already celebrating my six
but I was already celebrating my win

It needs more of a pause for effect
It needs more of a pause for effect?
It needs more of a pause for effect ?
It needs more of a pause for effect :
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« Reply #888 on: November 24, 2021, 02:40:16 pm »

can I say jacuzzi undemanding by six Yes
but I say jacuzzi undemanding by six Yes
but I was jacuzzi undemanding by six No
but I was already undemanding by six Yes
but I was already celebrating by six Yes
but I was already celebrating my six Yes
but I was already celebrating my win Yes

It needs more of a pause for effect No
It needs more of a pause for effect? No
It needs more of a pause for effect ? Yes
It needs more of a pause for effect : Yes

This is definitely harder than it should be. No
Please don't put random symbols in places, I got excited. No
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« Reply #889 on: November 24, 2021, 02:44:22 pm »

This seems too complicated but maybe you have an equivalent simpler formulation?

Guess: [number of vowels is odd] AND [parity of words = parity of consonants]

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« Reply #890 on: November 24, 2021, 02:51:17 pm »

This seems too complicated but maybe you have an equivalent simpler formulation?

Guess: [number of vowels is odd] AND [parity of words = parity of consonants]

Correct!

My wording was [odd number of words must have an odd number of vowels] AND [even number of words must have an even number of consonants], but that is equivalent to what you wrote.

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« Reply #891 on: November 24, 2021, 03:12:16 pm »

My wording was [odd number of words must have an odd number of vowels] AND [even number of words must have an even number of consonants], but that is equivalent to what you wrote.

Now I'm confused -- doesn't an odd number of words also need to have an odd number of consonants? E.g., "notoo" was false

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« Reply #892 on: November 24, 2021, 03:14:24 pm »

My wording was [odd number of words must have an odd number of vowels] AND [even number of words must have an even number of consonants], but that is equivalent to what you wrote.

Now I'm confused -- doesn't an odd number of words also need to have an odd number of consonants? E.g., "notoo" was false

notoo was false because notoo is an odd number of words having an even number of consonants.
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« Reply #893 on: November 24, 2021, 03:19:54 pm »

But isn't that allowed by your rule?

odd number of words must have odd number of vowels -- true
even number of words must have [...] vacuously true

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« Reply #894 on: November 24, 2021, 03:49:58 pm »

But isn't that allowed by your rule?

odd number of words must have odd number of vowels -- true
even number of words must have [...] vacuously true

I don't pick the even number: I just check all words and add up the number of words that satisfy it (that have an even number of consonants), and that number must be even.

I guess "the number of words that have an even number of consonants is even" is more correct.
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« Reply #895 on: November 24, 2021, 04:17:18 pm »

Ah, I see. You mean

[the number of words that have [an odd number of vowels]] must be odd AND [the number of words that have [an even number of consonants]] must be even

 whereas I read it as

if the number of words in the question is even, then the question is true iff the number of vowels is odd; otherwise, the question is true iff the number of consonants is even

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« Reply #896 on: November 24, 2021, 04:18:19 pm »

Agree your reading is more natural

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« Reply #897 on: November 24, 2021, 04:19:32 pm »

Ok, so is there enough interest in continuing?

Or should we create another thread with slightly changed rules where

- you're only allowed to guess with dictionary words, but
- it's encouraged to create somewhat easier rules

This rule was pretty cool, but probably too hard to guess with dictionary words only

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« Reply #898 on: November 24, 2021, 04:28:22 pm »

Ok, so is there enough interest in continuing?

Or should we create another thread with slightly changed rules where

- you're only allowed to guess with dictionary words, but
- it's encouraged to create somewhat easier rules

This rule was pretty cool, but probably too hard to guess with dictionary words only

I definitely don't design rules with dictionary words in mind. I prefer this version of the game, but you can create your thread if you want.
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« Reply #899 on: November 24, 2021, 04:32:33 pm »

Ok, so is there enough interest in continuing?

Or should we create another thread with slightly changed rules where

- you're only allowed to guess with dictionary words, but
- it's encouraged to create somewhat easier rules

This rule was pretty cool, but probably too hard to guess with dictionary words only

I'd play it.
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« Reply #900 on: November 24, 2021, 04:47:30 pm »

I'd play it.

just the new version?

what about infangthief?

(My preference is only mind; I would also play more of this version.)

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« Reply #901 on: November 25, 2021, 03:49:20 am »

Why don't we carry on here, but try a few rounds with dictionary words only.

Or leave it up to the oracle to decide - just say "dictionary words only" when you start the round.

Let's not be too picky about exactly what counts as a dictionary word; if there's a combination of letters you don't recognise feel free to not answer the question, is that good enough?
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« Reply #902 on: November 25, 2021, 10:56:21 am »

Sounds good.

I have a new rule. Dictionary words only.

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« Reply #903 on: November 25, 2021, 11:01:19 am »

Are sentences okay?
Yes
No
Maybe
A banana
Two bananas
Three bananas
Zero banana
Banana.
Silver
Fang
A bigger sentence
Something simple, yet complex
The letter "a"
Ten dictionaries
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« Reply #904 on: November 25, 2021, 11:19:22 am »

Are sentences okay? No
Yes Yes
No Yes
Maybe Yes
A banana No
Two bananas No
Three bananas No
Zero banana No
Banana. No
Silver Yes
Fang Yes
A bigger sentence No
Something simple, yet complex No
The letter "a" No
Ten dictionaries No
Early questions are fun! No
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« Reply #905 on: November 25, 2021, 02:32:06 pm »

Guess: Yes <=> No letter appears more than once.
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« Reply #906 on: November 25, 2021, 02:47:17 pm »

Counterexample Yes

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« Reply #907 on: November 25, 2021, 02:55:27 pm »

Banana
Silver.
banana
banana banana
Banana banana Banana

Yes no
Maybe yes
no maybe
fang silver
silverfang
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« Reply #908 on: November 25, 2021, 03:23:15 pm »

Banana No
Silver. Yes
banana No
banana banana No
Banana banana Banana No

Yes no Yes
Maybe yes No
no maybe Yes
fang silver Yes
silverfang Yes
wordwordwordwordword Yes

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« Reply #909 on: November 25, 2021, 03:51:29 pm »

Guess: Yes <=> Every letter appears an odd number of times or 0 times.
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« Reply #910 on: November 25, 2021, 04:00:08 pm »

Counterexample:

yes yes yes No

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« Reply #911 on: November 25, 2021, 05:40:18 pm »

yes
yes yes
yes yes yes
yes yes yes yes
yes yes yes yes yes
yes yes yes yes yes yes
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes

Dictionary words!
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« Reply #912 on: November 25, 2021, 06:24:37 pm »

yes Yes
yes yes No
yes yes yes No
yes yes yes yes No
yes yes yes yes yes No
yes yes yes yes yes yes No
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes No
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes No
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes No

Dictionary words! No

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« Reply #913 on: November 25, 2021, 09:33:11 pm »

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog?
Judge my vow O sphinx of black quartz?
Pack my box with six dozen liquor jugs?
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« Reply #914 on: November 26, 2021, 03:17:31 am »

Word word
Word word word
word word
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« Reply #915 on: November 26, 2021, 03:17:51 am »

Through.
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« Reply #916 on: November 26, 2021, 04:15:48 am »

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog? No
Judge my vow O sphinx of black quartz? No
Pack my box with six dozen liquor jugs? No
Word word No
Word word word No
word word No
Through. No

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« Reply #917 on: November 27, 2021, 03:38:56 pm »

Integral relating triangle?
black sphinx
my vow
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« Reply #918 on: November 27, 2021, 03:57:57 pm »

Integral relating triangle? No
black sphinx Yes
my vow Yes

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« Reply #919 on: November 27, 2021, 04:06:43 pm »

Example
Uncopyrightable
Possibles
Possibilities
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« Reply #920 on: November 27, 2021, 04:16:53 pm »

Example Yes
Uncopyrightable Yes
Possibles Yes
Possibilities No

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« Reply #921 on: November 28, 2021, 03:26:57 am »

a fish
two fish
three fish
four fish
five fish
six fish
seven fish
eight fish
nine fish
ten fish
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« Reply #922 on: November 28, 2021, 05:03:11 am »

Bee hive
Puppet
a a a
too

bat bat bat

ha ha ha ha
ha
ha ha
ha ha ha

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« Reply #923 on: November 28, 2021, 06:17:30 am »

a fish Yes
two fish Yes
three fish No
four fish No
five fish No
six fish No
seven fish No
eight fish No
nine fish No
ten fish Yes

Bee hive Yes
Puppet No
a a a No
too No

bat bat bat No

ha ha ha ha No
ha Yes
ha ha No
ha ha ha No

Is that even allowed No

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« Reply #924 on: November 29, 2021, 03:44:57 am »

unique
repeated
every
multiple
several
my triangle integral
two triangles
four triangles
puppets
puppetry
sussed
rarity
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« Reply #925 on: November 29, 2021, 03:46:10 am »

Bee
Too
Too hive
bee hive
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« Reply #926 on: November 29, 2021, 10:59:37 am »

unique No
repeated Yes
every No
multiple No
several No
my triangle integral No
two triangles No
four triangles No
puppets Yes
puppetry Yes
sussed Yes
rarity No

Bee No
Too No
Too hive No
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« Reply #927 on: November 29, 2021, 12:38:00 pm »

puppet
Four fish
incivility
incivilities
invisibility
indivisibility
Indivisibility?
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« Reply #928 on: November 29, 2021, 12:57:52 pm »

puppet Yes
Four fish Yes
incivility No
incivilities Yes
invisibility Yes
indivisibility No
Indivisibility? Yes

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« Reply #929 on: November 29, 2021, 01:43:14 pm »

Ew, why did you make casing matter?
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« Reply #930 on: November 29, 2021, 01:50:06 pm »

Ew, why did you make casing matter? No

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« Reply #931 on: November 29, 2021, 02:24:15 pm »

Guess: Yes <=> All ASCII characters appear an odd number of times, or 0 times
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« Reply #932 on: November 29, 2021, 02:48:53 pm »

Correct

def judge(str):
    counter = {}

    for letter in str:
        if letter in counter.keys():
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    return all([counter[x] % 2 == 1 for x in counter.keys()])

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« Reply #933 on: November 29, 2021, 02:50:05 pm »

In the future, we should all write python programs specifying our rules, the encrypt them using Eliptic Curve Cryptography and post the encryption, then apply the rule to the encrypted string, and if it turns out that every rule necessarily yields yes on the encryption of its program, we will win a nobel price in computer science

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« Reply #934 on: November 29, 2021, 02:51:47 pm »

You were really close with the first rule!

So how did you guys like the only-dictionary words format?

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« Reply #935 on: November 29, 2021, 02:55:02 pm »

A funny aspect of this rule was that no word repeated more than once can yield yes, because either the number of words is even in which case it fails on every letter in the word, or the number of words is odd (and > 1), in which case the number of spaces is even (and >=2) so it fails on those

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« Reply #936 on: November 29, 2021, 02:56:17 pm »

A funny aspect of this rule was that no word repeated more than once can yield yes, because either the number of words is even in which case it fails on every letter in the word, or the number of words is odd (and > 1), in which case the number of spaces is even (and >=2) so it fails on those

yes yes  yes

"dictionary words" sure is a way to not break this rule completely, so in that sense I liked it. It was a bit annoying to think of a 6 letter word that has 3 repeating letters and the rest unique though...
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« Reply #937 on: November 30, 2021, 03:55:59 am »

It was a bit annoying to think of a 6 letter word that has 3 repeating letters and the rest unique though...
I was quite pleased with "indivisibility".

wordwordwordwordword Yes
A strange dictionary you have there... This one was actually quite useful to finding the solution.

I have a rule. Dictionary words only.
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« Reply #938 on: November 30, 2021, 04:22:54 am »

No
Yes
Maybe
I have a rule. Dictionary words only.
Dictionary rules
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Silver spawn, help me!
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« Reply #939 on: November 30, 2021, 04:35:08 am »

What sphinx of cement and aluminum bashed open
their skulls and ate up their brains and imagination?
Moloch! Solitude! Filth! Ugliness! Ashcans and unobtainable dollars!
Children screaming under the stairways!
Boys sobbing in armies!
Old men weeping in the parks!

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« Reply #940 on: November 30, 2021, 06:40:20 am »

No No
Yes No
Maybe No
I have a rule. Dictionary words only. Yes
Dictionary rules No
I don't know No
Silver spawn, help me! No
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Go No
Back No
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« Reply #941 on: November 30, 2021, 06:48:48 am »

Old meen weeping in the parks in which they fall
Old meen weeping in the parks in which they fade
Old meen weeping in the parks that were lost
Old meen weeping in the parks that were gone
Old meen weeping in the parks under the cathedral
Old meen weeping in the parks under the cemetery

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« Reply #942 on: November 30, 2021, 06:49:35 am »

Ignore previous post as that contained non-dictionary words (by accident)

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Old men weeping in the parks in which they fade
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« Reply #943 on: November 30, 2021, 06:59:37 am »

Let's go back to single words now.
Let's Go Back to single words now.
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Dictionary
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« Reply #944 on: November 30, 2021, 07:59:22 am »

Ignore previous post as that contained non-dictionary words (by accident) Yes

Old men weeping in the parks in which they fall Yes
Old men weeping in the parks in which they fade Yes
Old men weeping in the parks that were lost Yes
Old men weeping in the parks that were gone Yes
Old men weeping in the parks under the cathedral Yes
Old men weeping in the parks under the cemetery Yes

Let's go back to single words now. Yes
Let's Go Back to single words now. Yes
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« Reply #945 on: November 30, 2021, 08:02:57 am »

Old men weeping
Old men weeping in
Old men weeping in the
Old men in parks
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« Reply #946 on: November 30, 2021, 08:04:15 am »

Old man weeping
Old man weeps
Old weeping men
in parks old men weeping
parks in weeping old men
old old old old old old old

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« Reply #947 on: November 30, 2021, 08:16:44 am »

Old men weeping No
Old men weeping in No
Old men weeping in the Yes
Old men in parks No
Old men weeping in parks Yes

Old man weeping No
Old man weeps No
Old weeping men No
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« Reply #948 on: November 30, 2021, 08:27:55 am »

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« Reply #950 on: November 30, 2021, 08:36:59 am »

sphinx of black quartz
sphinx of black quartz judge my vow
quartz judge my vow
black quartz judge my vow

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old men weeping in packages
old men weeping in pastures
old men weeping in paradoxes
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old men weeping in Germany
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« Reply #951 on: November 30, 2021, 09:30:37 am »

Guess: if a sentence have 5 or more words = True
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« Reply #952 on: November 30, 2021, 09:31:28 am »

Children screaming under the stairways! No

Sorry, just have seen this.
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But what if actually there was sentence that would consist of many more words; would it actually be a yes rather than a no, or would I have been wrong thinking this way?
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« Reply #954 on: November 30, 2021, 10:02:19 am »

men weeping in the No
weeping in the No
in the No

the No

sphinx of black quartz No
sphinx of black quartz judge my vow Yes
quartz judge my vow No
black quartz judge my vow Yes

old men weeping in packs Yes
old men weeping in packages Yes
old men weeping in pastures Yes
old men weeping in paradoxes Yes
old men weeping in Alaska Yes
old men weeping in Germany Yes
old men weeping in Canada Yes
old men weeping in France Yes
old men weeping in houses Yes
old men weeping in boxes Yes
old men weeping in castles Yes
old men weeping in catacombs Yes

Guess: if a sentence have 5 or more words = True
Consider this counterexample with six words. No

Sorry, just have seen this. No

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« Reply #955 on: November 30, 2021, 10:23:44 am »

a a a a a
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« Reply #956 on: November 30, 2021, 11:01:14 am »

old old old old old old old was also No

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« Reply #957 on: November 30, 2021, 11:03:45 am »

old men weeping in Inns
old men weeping inside
old men weeping in weep
old men weeping weeping
old men weeping in Ox
old men weeping in AI
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« Reply #958 on: November 30, 2021, 11:05:00 am »

Consider this counterexample with six words.
consider this counterexample with six words.
Consider this counterexample with six words!
Consider this counterexample with six words
consider this counterexample with six words
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« Reply #959 on: November 30, 2021, 11:18:08 am »

a a a a a No

old old old old old old old was also No No

old men weeping in Inns No
old men weeping inside No
old men weeping in weep No
old men weeping weeping No
old men weeping in Ox No
old men weeping in AI
old men weeping in I No

Consider this counterexample with six words. No
consider this counterexample with six words. No
Consider this counterexample with six words! No
Consider this counterexample with six words No
consider this counterexample with six words No
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« Reply #960 on: November 30, 2021, 11:24:20 am »

old men weeping in CIA
old men weeping in castle
old men weeping in house
old men weeping in oxen
old men weeping in ice
old men weeping in ill

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« Reply #961 on: November 30, 2021, 11:25:55 am »

today I learned that the plural of ox is oxen but it would be funnier if it were oxygen

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« Reply #962 on: November 30, 2021, 12:14:29 pm »

That feel when AI is not a word.
That
That feel
That feel when
That feel when is
That feel when is not
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« Reply #963 on: November 30, 2021, 02:30:01 pm »

old men weeping in apple
old men weeping in banana
old men weeping in carrot
old men weeping in die
old men weeping in exhaust
old men weeping in fruit
old men weeping in garden
old men weeping in has
old men weeping in idea
old men weeping in juice
old men weeping in lemon
old men weeping in mango
old men weeping in nature
old men weeping in orange
old men weeping in pear
old men weeping in quick
old men weeping in rat
old men weeping in sword
old men weeping in track
old men weeping in universe
old men weeping in venus
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« Reply #964 on: November 30, 2021, 02:44:11 pm »

packs in weeping men old
packages in weeping men old
pastures in weeping men old
paradoxes in weeping men old
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« Reply #965 on: December 01, 2021, 07:55:49 am »

old men weeping in CIA
old men weeping in castle Yes
old men weeping in house Yes
old men weeping in oxen No
old men weeping in ice No
old men weeping in ill No

today I learned that the plural of ox is oxen but it would be funnier if it were oxygen Yes

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That No
That feel No
That feel when No
That feel when is No
That feel when is not Yes
That feel when is not a Yes
That feel when is not a word. Yes

old men weeping in apple Yes
old men weeping in banana Yes
old men weeping in carrot Yes
old men weeping in die Yes
old men weeping in exhaust Yes
old men weeping in fruit Yes
old men weeping in garden Yes
old men weeping in has Yes
old men weeping in idea No
old men weeping in juice Yes
old men weeping in lemon Yes
old men weeping in mango No
old men weeping in nature Yes
old men weeping in orange No
old men weeping in pear Yes
old men weeping in quick Yes
old men weeping in rat Yes
old men weeping in sword Yes
old men weeping in track Yes
old men weeping in universe Yes
old men weeping in venus Yes
old men weeping in whale No
old men weeping in xenophobe Yes
old men weeping in yoga Yes
old men weeping in zipper Yes

packs in weeping men old Yes
packages in weeping men old Yes
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« Reply #966 on: December 01, 2021, 08:28:48 am »

Guess: if a sentence has 5 or more consecutive words that start with different letters = True
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Actually I don't think I have any reason to believe the words must be consecutive.

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« Reply #968 on: December 01, 2021, 08:35:19 am »

Actually I don't think I have any reason to believe the words must be consecutive.

Guess: if a sentence has 5 or more words that start with different letters = True
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« Reply #969 on: December 01, 2021, 08:53:34 am »

I have a rule. Dictionary words only.
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« Reply #970 on: December 01, 2021, 09:20:05 am »

I should really just say guesses and not just think them.
Oh well, I'd rather solve a rule of yours anyway
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I should really just say guesses and not just think them. No
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« Reply #972 on: December 01, 2021, 11:29:17 am »

Guess: It's just always no.
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Guess: It's just always no.

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Some of the best thinners in Dominion include
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« Reply #975 on: December 01, 2021, 12:07:47 pm »

I'd like to thank my parents, Ayn Rand and God
I'd like to thank my parents Ayn Rand and God
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« Reply #976 on: December 01, 2021, 01:24:04 pm »

Guess: everything is no except the string "Some of the best thinners in Dominion include Donate, Cathedral and Ambassador."

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Bomb, Gunpowder, Treasure Map, Way of the Turtle No

I'd like to thank my parents, Ayn Rand and God No
I'd like to thank my parents Ayn Rand and God No
I'd like to thank my parents, Ayn Rand, and God No

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« Reply #978 on: December 01, 2021, 01:43:32 pm »

Donate
Cathedral
Ambassador
Donate, Cathedral
Cathedral and Ambassador
Donate, and Ambassador
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Donate No
Cathedral No
Ambassador No
Donate, Cathedral No
Cathedral and Ambassador No
Donate, and Ambassador No
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Rebuild Remake Replace

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Donations, Cathedral and Ambassador.
Donate Cathedral Ambassador

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and
Donate Cathedral and Ambassador
Donate, Cathedral, and Ambassador
Cathedral, Ambassador, and Donate
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Some of the paint thinners in the Dominican include Donuts, Catheters, and Ambergris.
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« Reply #985 on: December 01, 2021, 02:15:01 pm »

Donations, Cathedral and Ambassador. Yes
Donate Cathedral Ambassador No

and No
Donate Cathedral and Ambassador Yes
Donate, Cathedral, and Ambassador Yes
Cathedral, Ambassador, and Donate No

Some of the paint thinners in the Dominican include Donuts, Catheters, and Ambergris. Yes
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« Reply #986 on: December 01, 2021, 02:16:24 pm »

Do Cats Attack?

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Do Cats Attack? No
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« Reply #988 on: December 01, 2021, 02:19:07 pm »

Cathedral, Ambuscade, and Donator
Cathedral, Ambassador, and Donator
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« Reply #989 on: December 01, 2021, 02:19:57 pm »

Cathedral, Ambuscade, and Donator No
Cathedral, Ambassador, and Donator No
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« Reply #990 on: December 01, 2021, 02:20:12 pm »

(donator is technically an acceptable variant of donor, so i think it passes the dictionary words test, unless we have a specific dictionary we're consulting0
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« Reply #991 on: December 01, 2021, 02:21:20 pm »

Would this guess be answered with an affirmative?
Would this one be answered with a negative?
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« Reply #992 on: December 01, 2021, 02:22:59 pm »

Donuts, Catheters, and Ambergris
Donuts Catheters Ambergris
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« Reply #993 on: December 01, 2021, 02:24:21 pm »

(donator is technically an acceptable variant of donor, so i think it passes the dictionary words test, unless we have a specific dictionary we're consulting0 No

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Would this one be answered with a negative? Yes

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« Reply #994 on: December 01, 2021, 02:26:08 pm »

Guess: If the last two words begin with the same letter, yes. Otherwise, no.
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« Reply #995 on: December 01, 2021, 02:26:47 pm »

oh wait, that's already disproven
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« Reply #996 on: December 01, 2021, 02:30:11 pm »

The, plot, thickens.
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« Reply #997 on: December 01, 2021, 02:42:04 pm »

Can Dogs also Attack?
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oh wait, that's already disproven No

The, plot, thickens. No

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« Reply #999 on: December 01, 2021, 03:09:02 pm »

Is there something special about the string "and Ambassador"?
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« Reply #1000 on: December 01, 2021, 03:11:54 pm »

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Is there something special about the string "and Ambassador"? Yes

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« Reply #1002 on: December 01, 2021, 03:19:41 pm »

Ducat DuCat DucAt
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cats can't conjure cohesively; cold calculations correct coercive contours

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Ducat DuCat DucAt No
Is that allowed? No

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« Reply #1005 on: December 01, 2021, 03:38:35 pm »

apple apple
banana banana
citrus citrus
dandelion dandelion
ember ember
fairy fairy
glove glove
happenstance happenstance
igloo igloo
jackpot jackpot
kangaroo kangaroo
lime lime
muskrat muskrat
nuptial nuptial
open open
potato potato
quirky quirky
risk risk
sepulcher sepulcher
tradition tradition
universe universe
version version
walrus walrus
xylophone xylophone
yogurt yogurt
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« Reply #1006 on: December 01, 2021, 03:51:42 pm »

The building chokes, folding inward. There's a pit inside where the beating heart of the sun expands. Dust traces its contours like a radiograph.

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« Reply #1007 on: December 01, 2021, 04:17:58 pm »

apple apple
banana banana
citrus citrus
dandelion dandelion
ember ember
fairy fairy
glove glove
happenstance happenstance
igloo igloo
jackpot jackpot
kangaroo kangaroo
lime lime
muskrat muskrat
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open open
potato potato
quirky quirky
risk risk
sepulcher sepulcher
tradition tradition
universe universe
version version
walrus walrus
xylophone xylophone
yogurt yogurt
zealot zealot

all No

The building chokes, folding inward. There's a pit inside where the beating heart of the sun expands. Dust traces its contours like a radiograph. Yes
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« Reply #1008 on: December 03, 2021, 03:04:37 pm »

I was super busy for the last two days, but what's your guys' excuse?

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I was super busy for the last two days, but what's your guys' excuse? No

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Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Cat Cat Cat Apple Apple Yes
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Ducat Ducat Ducat Cat Apple Yes
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« Reply #1010 on: December 03, 2021, 03:54:03 pm »

My excuse is "Thursdays and Fridays are hell for me", is that acceptable?

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My excuse is "Thursdays and Fridays are hell for me", is that acceptable? No

Ducat Cat Cat Apple Yes
Ducat Cat Apple Apple Yes
Ducat Cat Cat Apple Apple Yes
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« Reply #1012 on: December 03, 2021, 03:58:28 pm »

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Die Ducat Cat Apple
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Die Ducat Cat Apple No
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Cat Cat Ducat Apple
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Ducat Cat Apple Cat No
Cat Cat Ducat Apple No
Can Cat Ducat Apple No
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« Reply #1016 on: December 04, 2021, 03:12:07 pm »

Guess: Yes <=> Contains four consecutive words in reverse (or equal) alphabetical order
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Guess: Yes <=> Contains four consecutive words in reverse (or equal) alphabetical order

Correct.
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« Reply #1018 on: December 04, 2021, 04:01:06 pm »

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« Reply #1019 on: December 04, 2021, 04:26:52 pm »

My thought process for coming up with that rule was that I wanted a rule that would most likely lead to someone guessing "always no" to get a hint, so that I could give a hint about Ambassador, because I thought it would be amusing if people were asking questions about Ambassador for no reason whatsoever. It worked for a while I guess.
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« Reply #1020 on: December 05, 2021, 06:23:02 am »

I have a rule. Semantically valid questions only
Hope that limitation is ok; I think that the rule is straightforward enough to have this restriction.
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« Reply #1021 on: December 05, 2021, 06:31:54 am »

Is it the rule 34?
Does this mean that questions like "Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Cat Cat Cat Apple Apple Apple" aren't allowed?
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Is it the rule 34? Yes
Does this mean that questions like "Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Cat Cat Cat Apple Apple Apple" aren't allowed? No
If two witches were watching two watches, which witch would watch which watch? Yes
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« Reply #1023 on: December 05, 2021, 06:54:34 am »

The rule may be straight, but is it straight enough?
Is it very straight?
Is it really straight?
Is it really actually straight?
Is it really actually actually straight?
It it be even straighter?
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Is it the rule 34? Yes
Does this mean that questions like "Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Cat Cat Cat Apple Apple Apple" aren't allowed? No
If two witches were watching two watches, which witch would watch which watch? Yes

The rule may be straight, but is it straight enough? No
Is it very straight? No
Is it really straight? No
Is it really actually straight? Yes
Is it really actually actually straight? No
It it be even straighter? rejected
And most importantly, if the track was round, how could we ever go straight? No
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« Reply #1025 on: December 05, 2021, 08:19:13 am »

Guess: the number of words must be odd

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Guess: the number of words must be odd
Would you expect, if that were the case, me to answer "yes" to this question? No
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« Reply #1027 on: December 05, 2021, 08:44:38 am »

Would I?
Would I really?
Am I suspicious now?
Do trees make tree sounds?
Am I suspicious of you now?
Are vaccines vacuously and verfiably vacuum cleaners?
Does it have something to do with parentheses?

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« Reply #1028 on: December 05, 2021, 09:13:06 am »

It is the rule 34
Are there 34 rules?
Is it actually real?
Is it really actually stupid?
Are you alive?
Also, the Ducat question is a great question
How dare you not allow that in this rule
The cat ate the apple and the ducat
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Is it the rule 34? Yes
Does this mean that questions like "Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Ducat Cat Cat Cat Apple Apple Apple" aren't allowed? No
If two witches were watching two watches, which witch would watch which watch? Yes

The rule may be straight, but is it straight enough? No
Is it very straight? No
Is it really straight? No
Is it really actually straight? Yes
Is it really actually actually straight? No
It it be even straighter? rejected
And most importantly, if the track was round, how could we ever go straight? No

Would you expect, if that were the case, me to answer "yes" to this question? No

Would I? Yes
Would I really? Yes
Am I suspicious now? No
Do trees make tree sounds? Yes
Am I suspicious of you now? No
Are vaccines vacuously and verfiably vacuum cleaners? rejected
Does it have something to do with parentheses? No

It is the rule 34 rejected
Are there 34 rules? No
Is it actually real? No
Is it really actually stupid? Yes
Are you alive? Yes
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How dare you not allow that in this rule rejected
The cat ate the apple and the ducat rejected
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« Reply #1030 on: December 05, 2021, 11:26:29 am »

Oh, it has to be questions?
That's a bit rude, don't you think?

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« Reply #1031 on: December 05, 2021, 11:39:45 am »

Who?
How?
Why?

Does that work?
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Are vaccines vacuously and verfiably vacuum cleaners? rejected

um. why?

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Are vaccines vacuously and verfiably vacuum cleaners? rejected

um. why?

Is verfiably a word?
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Oh I misspelled it. I see.

Are vaccines vacuously and verifiably vacuum cleaners?

(firefox spellcheck also doesn't like verifiably, but it's definitely a word

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Oh, it has to be questions? No
That's a bit rude, don't you think? Yes

Are vaccines vacuously and verifiable vacuum cleaners? Yes

Who? No
How? No
Why? No

Does that work? Yes

um. why? Yes

Is verfiably a word? Rejected

Are vaccines vacuously and verifiably vacuum cleaners? Yes
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« Reply #1036 on: December 07, 2021, 07:16:51 am »

Sorry, I made a mistake.
Does that work? No
Should be:
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« Reply #1037 on: December 07, 2021, 08:35:13 am »

Is it?
Is it really?
Is it real?
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« Reply #1038 on: December 07, 2021, 09:16:58 am »

Is not using a python program treason?
Is this a hint that the rule is easy to enforce and hence a program is not needed?
Then why wasn't I able to solve it already?

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« Reply #1039 on: December 07, 2021, 10:22:35 am »

Is not using a python program treason?
Is this a hint that the rule is easy to enforce and hence a program is not needed?
Then why wasn't I able to solve it already?

Can you solve all easy to enforce rules?
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« Reply #1040 on: December 07, 2021, 12:47:43 pm »

that was more of an expression of mild annoyance than a serious remark

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« Reply #1041 on: December 07, 2021, 01:25:07 pm »

Do buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo?
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« Reply #1042 on: December 07, 2021, 02:12:02 pm »

Is this a rhetorical question?
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« Reply #1043 on: December 07, 2021, 05:13:05 pm »

Is it? Yes
Is it really? Yes
Is it real? Yes

Is not using a python program treason? Yes
Is this a hint that the rule is easy to enforce and hence a program is not needed? No
Then why wasn't I able to solve it already? No

Can you solve all easy to enforce rules? No

Do buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo? No

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« Reply #1044 on: December 22, 2021, 09:12:50 am »

do fish fish?
do fish fly?
do fish fry?
do fish cook?
do fish dance?
do fish eat?
do fish cry?
do fish fly?

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« Reply #1045 on: December 22, 2021, 09:29:44 am »

do fish fish?
do fish fly?
do fish fry?
do fish cook?
do fish dance?
do fish eat?
do fish cry?
do fish fly?
All of the above: Yes
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« Reply #1046 on: December 22, 2021, 09:33:49 am »

do fish fish fish?
do fish compartmentalize?
do fish cooperate?
do fish fish fishy fish?
do fish go out and buy dinner and then lie to their husband that they really played video games all day?
do fish struggle generating hypotheses that fit a currently existing dataset?
do fish have annoying auto-corrections that take issue with obviously correct words like 'dataset'?

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« Reply #1047 on: December 22, 2021, 10:16:58 am »

Do fish spawn silvers?
Do you steal fangs?
Do fish do anything?
Does anyone else?
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« Reply #1048 on: December 22, 2021, 02:51:07 pm »

do fish fish fish? No
do fish compartmentalize? Yes
do fish cooperate? Yes
do fish fish fishy fish? Yes
do fish go out and buy dinner and then lie to their husband that they really played video games all day? No
do fish struggle generating hypotheses that fit a currently existing dataset? Yes
do fish have annoying auto-corrections that take issue with obviously correct words like 'dataset'? No

Do fish spawn silvers? No
Do you steal fangs? No
Do fish do anything? No
Does anyone else? Yes
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« Reply #1049 on: December 22, 2021, 03:36:26 pm »

Silver, do you see any other possible guess other than "odd words"?

Would you expect if that were the case me to answer yes to this question?
Would you expect if that were the case for me to answer yes to this question?
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« Reply #1050 on: December 22, 2021, 03:51:24 pm »

Silver, do you see any other possible guess other than "odd words"? No

Would you expect if that were the case me to answer yes to this question? No
Would you expect if that were the case for me to answer yes to this question? No
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« Reply #1051 on: December 22, 2021, 04:01:36 pm »

Guess: the question must have a prime number of words
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« Reply #1052 on: December 22, 2021, 04:04:37 pm »

oh wow that is just

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« Reply #1053 on: December 22, 2021, 05:28:40 pm »

Guess: the question must have a prime number of words
Correct!
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« Reply #1054 on: December 22, 2021, 09:26:23 pm »

Oh, I guess I should get a rule started.

I have a rule. Dictionary words only.
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« Reply #1055 on: December 23, 2021, 02:45:53 pm »

I thought you liked the other rule better
why do this now
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« Reply #1056 on: December 23, 2021, 02:49:19 pm »

I thought you liked the other rule better No
why do this now No
fish No
fish fish No
fish fish fish No
fish fishing fish No
in fang thief No
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« Reply #1057 on: December 23, 2021, 06:02:33 pm »

Guess: the question must contain all characters of the alphabet.

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« Reply #1058 on: December 30, 2021, 09:09:14 am »

Guess: the question must contain all characters of the alphabet.

No:

I knew I had forgotten about this. Yes
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« Reply #1059 on: December 30, 2021, 03:12:51 pm »

Guess: Yes <=> Contains exactly seven words.
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« Reply #1060 on: December 30, 2021, 03:44:47 pm »

Guess: Yes <=> Contains exactly seven words.

No:

Sentences with seven words are very specific No
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« Reply #1061 on: December 31, 2021, 07:29:50 am »

It rains it rains and it rains.
And now it has stopped raining.
It is still wet from the rain.
The rain made all the things wet.
It rained on that wet day too.
It rained all that wet wet day.
That wet wet wet wet wet day.
And night, for it rained then too.
It will rain again tomorrow I think.
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« Reply #1062 on: December 31, 2021, 07:30:53 am »

It rains it rains and it rains.
And now it has stopped raining.
It is still wet from the rain.
The rain made all the things wet.
It rained on that wet day too.
It rained all that wet wet day.
That wet wet wet wet wet day.
And night, for it rained then too.
It will rain again tomorrow I think.
Dampness, moisture, condensation and relative humidity abound.

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« Reply #1063 on: December 31, 2021, 07:32:15 am »

And has it stopped raining now?
Has it stopped?
Is it raining now?
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« Reply #1064 on: December 31, 2021, 07:44:40 am »

And has it stopped raining now? Yes
Has it stopped? Yes
Is it raining now? Yes
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« Reply #1065 on: December 31, 2021, 08:04:42 am »

Rain
Raining
Rain Rain
Rain Raining
Rain rain
Wet wet wet
Wet wet wet day
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« Reply #1066 on: December 31, 2021, 08:35:26 am »

Rain No
Raining No
Rain Rain No
Rain Raining No
Rain rain No
Wet wet wet No
Wet wet wet day No
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« Reply #1067 on: December 31, 2021, 08:39:30 am »

It rains it rains and it rains.
And now it has stopped raining.
It is still wet from the rain.
The rain made all the things wet.
It rained on that wet day too.
It rained all that wet wet day.
That wet wet wet wet wet day.
And night, for it rained then too.
It will rain again tomorrow I think.
Dampness, moisture, condensation and relative humidity abound.

Paying more attention to this, I'm now sad that the second line only has 6 words instead of 7. Yes
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« Reply #1068 on: January 24, 2022, 11:33:01 am »

A man
A plan
A canal

A big man
A big plan
A big canal

A wet day
In the rain
The rain is all over
It is now
Is it?
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« Reply #1069 on: January 24, 2022, 12:59:50 pm »

there is a game going on?

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« Reply #1070 on: January 24, 2022, 01:10:09 pm »

A man No
A plan No
A canal No

A big man No
A big plan No
A big canal No

A wet day No
In the rain No
The rain is all over No
It is now No
Is it? Yes

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« Reply #1071 on: January 26, 2022, 03:52:18 am »

is it
is it?
Is it

it is now
it is then
it is rain
it is wet
it is brown
it is cow
it is incomprehensible

A wet wet wet wet wet day
That wet day
It was wet
That was wet
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« Reply #1072 on: January 26, 2022, 06:59:01 am »

is it No
is it? Yes
Is it No

it is now No
it is then No
it is rain No
it is wet No
it is brown No
it is cow No
it is incomprehensible No

A wet wet wet wet wet day No
That wet day No
It was wet No
That was wet No
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« Reply #1073 on: January 26, 2022, 10:01:27 am »

Guess: the question must contain punctuation
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« Reply #1074 on: January 26, 2022, 11:37:17 am »

Guess: the question must contain punctuation

Correct!

Well technically it was any non-letter character (except space), but I don't wanna steal that from you. Also I didn't write the rule down so I could've arbitrarily made it only punctuation.
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« Reply #1075 on: January 26, 2022, 03:25:02 pm »

I have a rule.
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Guess: the question must contain at least five occurrences of the string "cake"

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Guess: the question must contain at most four occurrences of the string "cake"
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Guess: the question must contain at least five occurrences of the string "cake"

cake cake cake cake cake No

Guess: the question must contain at most four occurrences of the string "cake"

cake cake cake cake No
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Guess: the question must not contain the string "cake"
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Guess: the question must not contain the string "cake"

caek caek caek caek No
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caek caek caek caek No

Guess: the question must contain at least five distinct letters

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« Reply #1084 on: January 26, 2022, 04:58:35 pm »

Guess: your real name isn't Awaclus
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« Reply #1085 on: January 26, 2022, 05:02:10 pm »

Do you think we'll be able to guess the rule eventually only using guesses and the counterexamples you provide and never actually asking any questions?
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« Reply #1086 on: January 26, 2022, 05:02:17 pm »

Lets not do this
anymore
Also Awaclus didn't specify whole words only
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Guess: your real name isn't Awaclus

Because I consider nicknames to be at least as real as official names, that's just a false statement (and from what I can tell, if the rule was just a false statement, all questions would return No), so I guess I have to give an example of a question that returns Yes

Do you think we'll be able to guess the rule eventually only using guesses and the counterexamples you provide and never actually asking any questions? Yes

Lets not do this Yes
anymore No
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« Reply #1088 on: January 26, 2022, 06:13:31 pm »

cakeydajoo

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Nani

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« Reply #1090 on: January 27, 2022, 02:47:48 am »

cakeydajoo No

Nani Yes
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« Reply #1091 on: January 27, 2022, 04:54:49 am »

apple
banana
cherry
damson
kiwi
lychee
melon
pear
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Guess: your real name isn't Awaclus

This wasn't a guess, by the way
This was a statement
Or is it called question now?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #1093 on: January 27, 2022, 07:59:47 am »

apple No
banana Yes
cherry No
damson Yes
kiwi No
lychee Yes
melon No
pear Yes
quince No
raspberry Yes
strawberry No

Guess: your real name isn't Awaclus No
This wasn't a guess, by the way Yes
This was a statement Yes
Or is it called question now? No
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« Reply #1094 on: January 27, 2022, 08:14:48 am »

Guess: the sentence needs to start with an even numbered letter (A=1, B=2, C=3, etc)
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« Reply #1095 on: January 27, 2022, 08:19:23 am »

Guess: the sentence needs to start with an even numbered letter (A=1, B=2, C=3, etc)

Correct.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #1096 on: January 27, 2022, 01:03:44 pm »

Can I start guessing before you have finalized your rule?

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #1097 on: January 27, 2022, 01:16:16 pm »

Looking through my ratings on IMBD and seeing what I gave a 10/10 to

Spirited Away
Frozen II
My Neighbor Totoro
I'm Thinking of Ending Things
Don't Look Up
Game of Thrones
Being John Malkovich

So Frozen is a bit questionable and maybe the Prestige should go in, otherwise sounds reasonable

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« Reply #1098 on: January 27, 2022, 01:23:29 pm »

It was just such a nice surprise because the first movie was genuinely good and I had every expectation of the second being much worse, plus when is an ultra high budget kids show ever good. But yeah let's make that a 9

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« Reply #1099 on: January 27, 2022, 01:41:45 pm »

Can I start guessing before you have finalized your rule? Yes

But no guaranteed that the answers will be the same after I make the rule No
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« Reply #1100 on: January 27, 2022, 04:26:32 pm »

Oops I posted the movie one in the wrong thread. Sorry!

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« Reply #1101 on: January 27, 2022, 04:26:40 pm »

Promise that was an accident

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #1102 on: January 27, 2022, 04:28:26 pm »

Quail
Quails
Quale
Qualia
Quark
Quota
Rum
Rom
Roll
Rope

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« Reply #1103 on: January 27, 2022, 05:00:37 pm »

The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog.

Mr. Jock, TV quiz PhD., bags few lynx.

Two driven jocks help fax my big quiz.

Waltz, nymph, for quick jigs vex Bud.

My girl wove six dozen plaid jackets before she quit?

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« Reply #1104 on: February 22, 2022, 10:30:51 am »

"Jazz finds wax," objective glyph makers quip.
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« Reply #1105 on: February 22, 2022, 10:35:01 am »

Steven Q. bought pickled kazoo wax for Jimmy.
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« Reply #1106 on: February 22, 2022, 10:40:35 am »

Jack's questionable proxy moved a wiz to fight.
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« Reply #1107 on: February 22, 2022, 10:50:28 am »

Do you make these up?
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« Reply #1108 on: February 22, 2022, 10:54:03 am »

I made mine up!
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« Reply #1109 on: February 22, 2022, 12:22:07 pm »

So now I have to make a rule that passes all of those, don't I.

Oh no. I came up with a really silly rule. Blame me if it's too hard, but it's not easy to come up with rules that have premade guesses already. Also I kinda want to make it harder.

I have a rule. I will get to fill in the guesses later, but all sentences that use every letter pass this rule. Also, use real words only or whatever the standard is now.
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« Reply #1110 on: February 22, 2022, 04:49:25 pm »

Can I start guessing before you have finalized your rule? No
But no guaranteed that the answers will be the same after I make the rule Yes

Oops I posted the movie one in the wrong thread. Sorry! No
Promise that was an accident No

Quail Yes
Quails No
Quale Yes
Qualia Yes
Quark No
Quota Yes
Rum Yes
Rom No
Roll No
Rope No

The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog. Yes
Mr. Jock, TV quiz PhD., bags few lynx. Yes
Two driven jocks help fax my big quiz. Yes
Waltz, nymph, for quick jigs vex Bud. Yes
My girl wove six dozen plaid jackets before she quit? Yes
Sixty zippers were quickly picked from the woven jute bag. Yes
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. Yes
A wizard’s job is to vex chumps quickly in fog. Yes
Brown jars prevented the mixture from freezing too quickly. Yes
The jay, pig, fox, zebra and my wolves quack! Yes

"Jazz finds wax," objective glyph makers quip. Yes
Steven Q. bought pickled kazoo wax for Jimmy. Yes
Jack's questionable proxy moved a wiz to fight. Yes

Do you make these up? No
I made mine up! No
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« Reply #1111 on: February 28, 2022, 10:28:31 am »

Be my wicked quiver upon a jazzy sex flight?
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« Reply #1112 on: February 28, 2022, 11:24:22 am »

Be my wicked quiver upon a jazzy sex flight? Yes

all sentences that use every letter pass this rule
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« Reply #1113 on: February 28, 2022, 11:36:41 am »

I just like pangrams
Is that a crime?
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« Reply #1114 on: February 28, 2022, 11:46:48 am »

I just like pangrams No
Is that a crime? No
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« Reply #1115 on: February 28, 2022, 01:40:27 pm »

The quick fox jumps over the lazy dog
The brown fox jumps over the lazy dog
The fox jumps over the dog
Fox jumps over dog
The fox jumps
The quick brown fox jumps over the dog
Fox jumps
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« Reply #1116 on: March 01, 2022, 02:50:28 am »

Objective: Make Phil run waxy fudges quiz.
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