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[Holger]

I came up with a card im happier with.
I present: Appraiser

VERSION 4:

Appraiser
$4 Action

+2 Cards
Discard a card. Look through your discard pile; You may play a Treasure from it.
-
In games using this, Silver is also an Action that gives +2 Actions.

Edit notes:
Made appraiser cost $4 as its worse then lab. Made it able to play treasures in your discard pile, meaning its sorta like a smithy in card draw now. Thus removed the +2 Cards option on silver, cause playing a silver that way with appraiser without having to draw the silver is essentially a hunting grounds, which is nuts for $5, let alone $4. And thats not talking about the fact that you get money from the silver!!
Removing the +2 Cards option makes silver now a necropolis + silver. it simplifies the card and removes uninteresting decision points. And it made it so i can just remove the "If it's your action phase" part, saving a lot of space on Appraiser. which is needed when it allready has text on the top.

Hopefully silvers still feels like Silvers here. Im not a fan of removing the money part on silvers, it's part of its identity

Edit round 2:
Tightened up wording. Made it match charlatans text more. Removed the "play from hand" part, and now it is just playing from the discard pile, but you discard a card first.

FAQ:
If you discard a tunnel with Appraiser, you gain the gold first and is thus able to play it with appraiser.
If you also get conclave on the kingdom, you should just replace it with another card. sorry!!

IMO this version 4 is far too strong at $4:

Whenever you have a Silver in your discard, Appraiser can be played as a Grand Market (minus the buy) plus a Fugitive, that's $7+ territory.

When you have a Silver in hand instead, it's still effectively a Lab if you discard and play the Silver (since you save an Action by playing Silver with Appraiser).

And since Silver is very strong (close to Festival) in Appraiser games,  you will usually have several Silvers in your deck anyway.

[JW]

Bribe

Treasure - Duration - Attack
You may discard a Silver or a Gold. If you do, each other player gains a Curse. At the start of your next turn, +2 Cards.

Notes: It’s a Treasure so that you generally can’t inflict multiple curses with a single Silver or Gold.

[Melon]

48 hour warning
(a little late)

[J410]

Twin Village - Action +2 Actions You may discard two cards or a Silver for +2 Cards. When you gain this, gain a Twin Village (that doesn't come with another).

A card I once designed to have (or reference) as many 2's on a card as possible. Like Port, it's a stack of 12 cards. It's great if a sifting village is what you need, but it's handsize-negative unless you have Silver to discard.

[HorazVitae]

The more Silver you have, the more they are willing to do for you.

EDIT: had to edit a busted interaction with feodum.

EDIT #2: Dang it. Just realized the 0 clause is the wrong one. Should've read "put this onto your deck" I knew the card looked weird somehow. This version's 0 clause doesn't really work for it so feel free to bash my entry to the fullest :'D

[fika monster]

The more Silver you have, the more they are willing to do for you.
(I wan't able to get the card to downsize, so any tip on how to do that would be appreciated. First post here^^)

in the "Img" part, write "img width=350"
but with the [ ] instead of " "

[fika monster]

I came up with a card im happier with.
I present: Appraiser

VERSION 4:

IMO this version 4 is far too strong at $4:

Whenever you have a Silver in your discard, Appraiser can be played as a Grand Market (minus the buy) plus a Fugitive, that's $7+ territory.

When you have a Silver in hand instead, it's still effectively a Lab if you discard and play the Silver (since you save an Action by playing Silver with Appraiser).

And since Silver is very strong (close to Festival) in Appraiser games,  you will usually have several Silvers in your deck anyway.

I have thought about that: but im unsure how it is at £5 cost.
I could make it cost 5£, +3 cards, discard two. It would match forum then.

All draw is stronger with appraiser on the board, so im unsure about making that change

[HorazVitae]

The more Silver you have, the more they are willing to do for you.
(I wan't able to get the card to downsize, so any tip on how to do that would be appreciated. First post here^^)

in the "Img" part, write "img width=350"
but with the [ ] instead of " "

Tyvm^^

[Holger]

I came up with a card im happier with.
I present: Appraiser

VERSION 4:

Appraiser
$4 Action

+2 Cards
Discard a card. Look through your discard pile; You may play a Treasure from it.
-
In games using this, Silver is also an Action that gives +2 Actions.

Edit notes:
Made appraiser cost $4 as its worse then lab. Made it able to play treasures in your discard pile, meaning its sorta like a smithy in card draw now. Thus removed the +2 Cards option on silver, cause playing a silver that way with appraiser without having to draw the silver is essentially a hunting grounds, which is nuts for $5, let alone $4. And thats not talking about the fact that you get money from the silver!!
Removing the +2 Cards option makes silver now a necropolis + silver. it simplifies the card and removes uninteresting decision points. And it made it so i can just remove the "If it's your action phase" part, saving a lot of space on Appraiser. which is needed when it allready has text on the top.

Hopefully silvers still feels like Silvers here. Im not a fan of removing the money part on silvers, it's part of its identity

Edit round 2:
Tightened up wording. Made it match charlatans text more. Removed the "play from hand" part, and now it is just playing from the discard pile, but you discard a card first.

FAQ:
If you discard a tunnel with Appraiser, you gain the gold first and is thus able to play it with appraiser.
If you also get conclave on the kingdom, you should just replace it with another card. sorry!!

IMO this version 4 is far too strong at $4:

Whenever you have a Silver in your discard, Appraiser can be played as a Grand Market (minus the buy) plus a Fugitive, that's $7+ territory.

When you have a Silver in hand instead, it's still effectively a Lab if you discard and play the Silver (since you save an Action by playing Silver with Appraiser).

And since Silver is very strong (close to Festival) in Appraiser games,  you will usually have several Silvers in your deck anyway.

I have thought about that: but im unsure how it is at £5 cost.
I could make it cost 5£, +3 cards, discard two. It would match forum then.

All draw is stronger with appraiser on the board, so im unsure about making that change

I would just try it at $5 without another boost. Playing a card from the discard implicitly gives you an extra +1 card, so Appraiser is already much stronger than Forum whenever you have a Silver in the discard pile.

[HorazVitae]

Had to edit my Outlaw, because of Feodum^^

[silverspawn]

Appraiser at $5 is still pushing it in terms of powerlevel

[RovingBear]

Pawnshop
Cost: 4
Action

+1 action
You may:
Discard a Copper to gain a Silver.
Discard a Silver for +2 Cards.
Discard a Gold to gain a Gold or a card to your hand costing up to 5.

Workshop variant- and yea you can do all of them but or some but only by order.

Ill try to get in a mockup in time

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[anordinaryman]

Updated entry

Hot Springs | Action | $3
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may play a Treasure from your Hand.
-
In games using this, if you have a Hot Springs in play when you play a Silver, +1 Card and then you may top-deck a card from hand.

Updated the wording to prevent stacking. I also made it slightly stronger in that the very first Hot Springs can trigger the Silver bonus. It just seemed too awkward to say "more than one" as in "In games using this, if you have more than one Hot Springs in play..." Also the "lab" potential isn't crazy strong, given you always need Silvers to pair with it, and the more Silvers you get, the more they can cloud up your deck.

So here is my design. It's not supposed to be a dominating strategy, but it should almost always be nice to pick up, and gives you a lot more reason to buy Silver, which is nice. It has fun niche strategies like trying to make it a draw engine, or using it for draw-to-x, slightly improving some treasures by playing them in your Action phase, or using it to set up future turns with the top-decking.

[segura]

I think that a wording like with Merchant would be more compact "The first time you play a Silver this turn, +1 Card, then you may put a card from your hand onto your deck." and it would also have the effect that the card works more naturally with Throne Rooms (it becomes throneable) and Ways (the Way ignores the Silver effect as there is no below-line stuff anymore).

[anordinaryman]

I think that a wording like with Merchant would be more compact "The first time you play a Silver this turn, +1 Card, then you may put a card from your hand onto your deck." and it would also have the effect that the card works more naturally with Throne Rooms (it becomes throneable) and Ways (the Way ignores the Silver effect as there is no below-line stuff anymore).

That functionally changes it such that with three Hot Springs and 1 silver, you get to draw 3 cards when you play a silver. The current wording requires 1 hot spring and 3 silvers to draw 3 which is better balanced since silver is a stop card. Also, your suggested wording would render the “play a treasure” less useful since only your first silver play does anything.

I appreciate the simpler wording, but I think it would make the card not designed as well. Thanks for your thoughts.

[Melon]

24 hour warning

[segura]

I think that a wording like with Merchant would be more compact "The first time you play a Silver this turn, +1 Card, then you may put a card from your hand onto your deck." and it would also have the effect that the card works more naturally with Throne Rooms (it becomes throneable) and Ways (the Way ignores the Silver effect as there is no below-line stuff anymore).

That functionally changes it such that with three Hot Springs and 1 silver, you get to draw 3 cards when you play a silver. The current wording requires 1 hot spring and 3 silvers to draw 3 which is better balanced since silver is a stop card. Also, your suggested wording would render the “play a treasure” less useful since only your first silver play does anything.

I appreciate the simpler wording, but I think it would make the card not designed as well. Thanks for your thoughts.

Yeah, you are right.

[Tiago]

I think that a wording like with Merchant would be more compact "The first time you play a Silver this turn, +1 Card, then you may put a card from your hand onto your deck." and it would also have the effect that the card works more naturally with Throne Rooms (it becomes throneable) and Ways (the Way ignores the Silver effect as there is no below-line stuff anymore).

That functionally changes it such that with three Hot Springs and 1 silver, you get to draw 3 cards when you play a silver. The current wording requires 1 hot spring and 3 silvers to draw 3 which is better balanced since silver is a stop card. Also, your suggested wording would render the “play a treasure” less useful since only your first silver play does anything.

I appreciate the simpler wording, but I think it would make the card not designed as well. Thanks for your thoughts.

Yeah, you are right.

What about:
Hot Springs
+1 Card
+1 Action
You may play a Silver from your hand, for +1 Card.

I don't think this would be too strong. It doesn't actually increase your handsize. If it is you can make it cost $4. It also removes the awkwardness of drawing in your Buy phase.

[fika monster]

Have i been posting too much here or adding way too many notes on my thought process on my card?

[MiX]

Tentacles $3 - Action

+$1

Reveal the top 3 cards of your deck, you may add a revealed card to your hand. Put the others back in any order. If it costs $3, +1 Action.

[silverspawn]

Have i been posting too much here or adding way too many notes on my thought process on my card?

nah there is no such thing as too much engagement in this forum. WDC threads used to go to page 2 regularly

(if anyone is like "but they're still going to page 2 wtf?" then you haven't yet figured out that you can set posts/page to 50!)

[silverspawn]

Mockups:



(This was slightly edited shortly after submission closed bc I realized the "silver produces $1 less" doesn't do anything since you can just play silver first. Feel Free to disqualify it because of that. Don't bother judging the older version.)

[Melon]

Contest Closed

[Melon]

Purchase

Purchase by kru5h -
Quite good. Interesting when it's the only source of +Buy.

Coin Collection $2 Treasure
+$1 per Silver you have in play.

Coin Collection by StrangerSon712 -
Too strong (or too weak). Assuming you're drawing deck every turn, this could easily serve as a +$3 or +$4 Treasure that costs $2; just 8 cards (4 Silvers, 4 CCs) can get you to $24. 8 Golds can get you to $24 as well, but Golds don't cost $2. And on the other hand, if you're not drawing deck, this will never get bought.

Manufacture by grep -
It feels like you'll always be able to reveal 3 Treasures from your hand. In Big Money you'll obviously have a bunch of Treasures, and in engines, assuming you haven't trashed everything, you'll be able to draw into the Treasures. I like the belowline though; it punishes bad engines and rewards good ones, and it makes Feodum on its own a lot better.

Aluminium Smelter
Project - $5
On your turns, gain a Silver at the start, and when you play a Silver, trash it

Aluminium Smelter by NoMoreFun-
Very clever. You wouldn't want to buy a Project that says "at the start of your turn, gain a Silver" because that would clog up your engine, but the trashing clause deals with that problem nicely and turns this into a ''at the start of your Buy phase, +$2". If you wanted an extra $2 every turn, though, you would just buy a Silver (assuming you have the sufficient overdraw). Additionally, I don't like the pricing. This just doesn't compete with decent $5 cards. It's good, but it's not great.

Silver Scepter • $5 • Action
You may discard a card costing at least $3 to gain two Silvers and trash a Hand card. Otherwise, +$3.
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In games using this, reveal a Hand of four or more cards and only Silver to end the game.

Silver Scepter by BryGuy -
I like the belowline, but the top seems a little weak if there's not good trashing, and too strong if there is.

Smelter by czzzz -
It's okay. You can use this to spike 7 if there's Forge or Inheritance or something, you can use this to trash if there's no better trashing, or you can use this with a Gold gainer to grab 5s. It's decent.

Appraiser by fika monster -
$4 Lab, but reliant on a card that gives $. It's a good concept, but it's too powerful.

Reforge by Augie279 -
Interesting if there's no other trashing (or at least, the only trashing is something that excludes Treasures, e.g. Hermit).

Hot Springs by anordinaryman -
$3 Lab, but reliant on Silvers. I really like it. I would probably simplify it to something like "You may play a Treasure from your hand. If it's a Silver, +1 Card". It's a little too powerful though.

Mad Scientist
$5 - Action
+1 Card.
+1 Action.
You may trash a card costing at least $2 for +2 Cards. If you don't, gain a Silver.

Mad Scientist by LibraryAdventurer -
It's worse than Apprentice in that it doesn't scale with cost but better than Apprentice because it provides its own fuel. It's good, but it doesn't excite me.

Memorial by Tiago -
This is really smart. Ignoring the belowline for now, it's better than Prince in that it can play more copies, but worse considering timing. I think it's quite a bit too powerful, but it's still fun.

Potion Trader
P
Action
You may reveal a potion from your hand to gain a silver to your hand, or reveal a silver to gain a potion to your hand. Then reveal your hand. Apply the following effect as many times as you have treasures in hand costing 2 or more:
+1 action
+1 card
+1 buy
You may trash a non-treasure card from your hand.

Potion Trader by sumrex -
This is way busted. If you collide this with one Silver, it becomes a Lost City with +Buys and trashing and gain a Potion to your hand. It reminds me of Magnate, but it's not terminal, costs much less, and trashes.

Bribe

Treasure - Duration - Attack
You may discard a Silver or a Gold. If you do, each other player gains a Curse. At the start of your next turn, +2 Cards.

Bribe by JW -
It's a little unfair to compare this to one of the best cards in the game, but this seems simply worse than Witch. The thing is, for this to Curse, you either need to get lucky and collide it with Silver/Gold, or you need to be able to draw deck, and by the time either of those are happening, your opponent probably can trash whatever you throw at them, or have enough Treasure in their deck to ignore a Curse or two. I like the duration draw synergizing with the rest of the card, but this is too weak.

Twin Village - Action +2 Actions You may discard two cards or a Silver for +2 Cards. When you gain this, gain a Twin Village (that doesn't come with another).

Twin Village by J410 -
I don't see anyone ever discarding a Silver for +2 Cards. You won't normally have a Silver in your deck, unless you bought one early, or unless an engine isn't possible; and if an engine isn't possible, then you wouldn't want to spend a Buy on this unless your deck is full of junk, and if your deck is full of junk, you shouldn't discard a Silver for +2 Cards. Maybe if this is the only village and handsize is a concern, you might buy Silvers to keep yourself afloat, but it honestly isn't worth it

Outlaw by HorazVitae -
The concept is absolutely amazing, but it's too complicated. I would've just done something like "+1 Coffers per Silver you have in play". (also what was the broken interaction with feodum?)

Pawnshop
Cost: 4
Action

+1 action
You may:
Discard a Copper to gain a Silver.
Discard a Silver for +2 Cards.
Discard a Gold to gain a Gold or a card to your hand costing up to 5.

Pawnshop by RovingBear -
I like the Copper and Gold discard ability, but otherwise suffers from the same faults as Twin Village.

Forum Romanum by segura-
$3 Peddler is too powerful, especially because the supply is limitless and things like Raid exist.

Tentacles by MiX -
Will only ever get bought with trashing/sifting, but other than that I like it.

Atelier & Cursed Silver -
I love Cursed Silver as what is basically a "the first Silver you play this turn provides $1 less", and Atelier is good, but Silver is bad enough without Cursed Silver's existence.

Winner: Hot Springs by anordinaryman
Runners-up:  Memorial by Tiago, Reforge by Augie279

Feedback is appreciated!