So, I finally had enough time to read Joseph...and I just don't see him being very scummy. He was mostly getting flack for talking about the set up, then defending himself for talking about the set up.
I disagree with his position that the Robz wagon has to have scum on it, especially because there were so many singleton votes at the time, but is that necessarily scummy? It seems like we are looking for ways to narrow down the choices.
And now I am curious about why Space was so insistent that I engage with him, because I had said my thoughts about his wagon earlier and am now pretty sure I wasn't missing anything.
Here is my summary of Joseph:
57-59 scum knows more than town, random vote, guillotine players could be IC
61 The IC would be because the town win condition is to have 2 mafia dead + 1 on the guillotine.
So if we have 2 mafia dead, if we guillotine someone and the game doesn't end, then they must be town
71 asks for sample role PMs
73- what is scum wincon?
84- so the scum win condition is "You win when there are as many or more living Mafia as there are living non-Mafia or if nothing can prevent the same. (Someone on guillotine is still alive.)"
So on guillotine counts as alive for town, but effectively as dead for scum (if there's only 1 left)
128- I’m town because I knew the town wincon
129 - vote chairs (now hyper) for setting up Faust
203- hasn’t had much to say
204 vote PPS (no reason)
229, 234 chairs(now hyper) is best option even if not a great option
235- discussion of the vig role with PPS, when the vig uses the shot, they can claim the role and maybe out scum
240 vig declares privately
319- hyper’s WCD case is weak.
320- he has been unhelpfully inactive, but its not a good idea to vote for him
321, 326 D1 isn’t thrilling so he has been disengaged
342 vote hyper
349 oh yeah, chairs is hyper
350 we just need a majority to Lynch
387 answers Faust question about how he knew town wincon - says its #61 (yep)
389- says he likes setup talk over random D1 chatter
392- we are all bored with D1
393- we’re not trying to think through the setup like some D1s
402 votes Robz, says EFHW is more towny then Robz and that he is green text
407 will be around for deadline
430 would vote for space, still prefers Robz
431 but won’t switch to space until votes come off of him
434 like Robz, he doesn’t do day one, but he has tried to be around
D2
500 If Robz is town, has wagon has to have scum on it
501 so e, PPS, Joesph, WCD, Space, Fang. Since he is town, it wasn’t that scum was trying to avoid a scum lynch
502 Robz wagon was the scummiest. Space may have been a better option
520 maybe Space/Hyper team
521 votes Space
532 offers to claim
572 IC weighs in! Hooray!
573 Im town because I said the town wincon
583 as scum, he usually dies D1or D2, except last time he go to lylo
584 he isn’t feeling well and is behind as a result
609 questions DatSwan’s analysis that leads to him being scum
610 sees EFHW and Space as more scummy of the 4 mentioned by swan (Joseph, Robz, Space, EFHW)
611 votes EFHW because one of the D1 wagons was scum
614 maybe swan’s case was a Swan/EFHW team
655 Adds to Swan’s analysis about Fangs’s case on WCD.