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Author Topic: M119: Towny Mafia (Game Over!)  (Read 142487 times)

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #750 on: November 11, 2018, 08:53:15 am »

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #751 on: November 11, 2018, 08:54:18 am »

Tracked Space last night, she didn't target anyone.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #752 on: November 11, 2018, 08:54:55 am »

they* sorry Space
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #753 on: November 11, 2018, 08:56:25 am »

This coyld so easily be a fakeclaim.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #754 on: November 11, 2018, 08:57:44 am »

I'm mostly finished my Fang re-read now, and I do feel like he's mostly townie.

Question for the people who've played with him before, though, since I don't currently have time to go and digest one or more other games: was he this plugged into everything others had said, like pointing out where people had said the opposite of what he thought they meant, or pursuing obscure points about other people's scum-hunting strategies? He seems to have put a lot of re-read effort into the game, which could be newbie enthusiasm, but sometimes I feel scum gets the enthusiasm better than town...

Ah, PPE tracker claim.

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #755 on: November 11, 2018, 09:00:01 am »

Though at the cost of quasi- IC'ing Space. I have to recheck the setup, but from memory I  think only scum have targeting roles and their incentives are set up to have each of them target someone. Why didn't you tell us your result sooner?
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #756 on: November 11, 2018, 09:01:40 am »

Though at the cost of quasi- IC'ing Space. I have to recheck the setup, but from memory I  think only scum have targeting roles and their incentives are set up to have each of them target someone. Why didn't you tell us your result sooner?

I tried to hint at it earlier today (posting a strong town read on Space without explanation) in case I got NK'ed. Obviously it's really bad for me to have to claim this early since we don't have protective roles.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #757 on: November 11, 2018, 09:02:12 am »

I wish I had thought of this sooner.

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #758 on: November 11, 2018, 09:03:09 am »

Though at the cost of quasi- IC'ing Space. I have to recheck the setup, but from memory I  think only scum have targeting roles and their incentives are set up to have each of them target someone. Why didn't you tell us your result sooner?

I tried to hint at it earlier today (posting a strong town read on Space without explanation) in case I got NK'ed. Obviously it's really bad for me to have to claim this early since we don't have protective roles.
Please link to the hint, or give a post number.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #759 on: November 11, 2018, 09:03:50 am »

Vote: EFHW
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #760 on: November 11, 2018, 09:04:17 am »

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #761 on: November 11, 2018, 09:04:28 am »

This coyld so easily be a fakeclaim.

Who's actually here? Me, EFHW, Joseph PPS and hyper?
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #762 on: November 11, 2018, 09:04:33 am »

I’m here on and off
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #763 on: November 11, 2018, 09:05:29 am »

Though at the cost of quasi- IC'ing Space. I have to recheck the setup, but from memory I  think only scum have targeting roles and their incentives are set up to have each of them target someone. Why didn't you tell us your result sooner?

I tried to hint at it earlier today (posting a strong town read on Space without explanation) in case I got NK'ed. Obviously it's really bad for me to have to claim this early since we don't have protective roles.
Please link to the hint, or give a post number.

This. I certainly didn't pick up on it.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #764 on: November 11, 2018, 09:06:39 am »

Fake claim here makes no sense. A counter claim today seals the deal and one tomorrow means the on guillotine player is completely ignored.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #765 on: November 11, 2018, 09:07:03 am »

At this point I think Space is town. I somewhat regret moving my vote to them yesterday, I think staying on Joseph and trying to convince people to move there could have been better.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #766 on: November 11, 2018, 09:09:04 am »

If hyper is scum, then Joseph and Fang look probtown because of Joseph's early wagon.

EFHW looks reasonably innocent for hesitating here.

PPS looks like a possible partner, though one with heavy bussing.. this sort of a fake-claim plan has a very PPS-is feel to it, though. His move to EFHW makes that feel even more likely.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #767 on: November 11, 2018, 09:11:26 am »

WCD is also likely town.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #768 on: November 11, 2018, 09:11:36 am »

Fake claim here makes no sense. A counter claim today seals the deal and one tomorrow means the on guillotine player is completely ignored.
You don't think scum!hypercube would take that risk given his imminent demise? Only 5 out of 13 people on, and if the real tracker is on  and counterclaims they have outed them. I don't follow your point about counter claim tomorrow.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #769 on: November 11, 2018, 09:12:29 am »

Awaclus still looks null.

Swan and mcmc have not received enough scrutiny.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #770 on: November 11, 2018, 09:14:09 am »

Fake claim here makes no sense. A counter claim today seals the deal and one tomorrow means the on guillotine player is completely ignored.
You don't think scum!hypercube would take that risk given his imminent demise? Only 5 out of 13 people on, and if the real tracker is on  and counterclaims they have outed them. I don't follow your point about counter claim tomorrow.

Both questions have the same answer. Demise is not imminent. Yes they die but the value lies in having influence tomorrow which is immediately lost with a counter claim today or tomorrow.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #771 on: November 11, 2018, 09:15:36 am »

If hyper is scum, then Joseph and Fang look probtown because of Joseph's early wagon.

EFHW looks reasonably innocent for hesitating here.

PPS looks like a possible partner, though one with heavy bussing.. this sort of a fake-claim plan has a very PPS-is feel to it, though. His move to EFHW makes that feel even more likely.

If you think that may actually be the case then vote EFHW.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #772 on: November 11, 2018, 09:15:52 am »

I'm potentially here. Still LA so can't say for sure.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #773 on: November 11, 2018, 09:16:21 am »

If hyper is scum, then Joseph and Fang look probtown because of Joseph's early wagon.

EFHW looks reasonably innocent for hesitating here.

PPS looks like a possible partner, though one with heavy bussing.. this sort of a fake-claim plan has a very PPS-is feel to it, though. His move to EFHW makes that feel even more likely.

If you think that may actually be the case then vote EFHW.

Wait, what are you talking about?
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #774 on: November 11, 2018, 09:17:48 am »

Fake claim here makes no sense. A counter claim today seals the deal and one tomorrow means the on guillotine player is completely ignored.
You don't think scum!hypercube would take that risk given his imminent demise? Only 5 out of 13 people on, and if the real tracker is on  and counterclaims they have outed them. I don't follow your point about counter claim tomorrow.

Both questions have the same answer. Demise is not imminent. Yes they die but the value lies in having influence tomorrow which is immediately lost with a counter claim today or tomorrow.
They lose any ic-ness, but get someone else lynched in their place. Scum!hyper would not have influence if lynched, anyway, so the risk is worth it.

Fake claim would point to WCD being town.
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