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[O]

I lost a bucket-load of games with swindler Yesterday, and the entire time I was cursing bad luck. I know *some* of it has to be luck, but maybe some of these games can enlighten me on how to better counter swindler. THese are all (including lucky) of the games I saw with swindler in them.

http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120302-230648-8455984b.html
Swindler Venture-> Mint and then Province gets swindled into a Peddler last minute, making me lose by two. Is Swindler enough reason to go into an mostly unsupported Goons deck? (mint/venture is a favorite combo of mine)

I hit two golems, which is nice in that they took them out of play for a turn but also wasn't very harmful.


http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120302-231503-fb01aeb1.html

Swindler Province-> Province enabling him to end the game a turn earlier, before my deck with 10 Grand Markets fired off for what I believe is a sufficiently big Megaturn to win.

http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120303-172814-f75f73c4.html

Swindlers my swindler FOUR TIMES out of six plays. Besides that it seemed to be a mirror match which I think I should have won (6 Wharf 4 WV > 4 Wharf 6 WV, probably)

http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120303-173626-52d94b7f.html

Swindlers my critical 5's twice in what was also mostly a mirror match. The last turn, he swindles my duchy back into a 5 (he would have won by 3 anyways but it was cruelly ironic)

http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120303-234711-2fcacc33.html

My 1st reshuffle swindler hits two estates, then he hits a copper his first play. Island > Tournament might also have been a mistake (I was planning to pick one up after but didnt really see a chance)

http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120303-185550-bfbaab90.html

I ignore swindler and win. I think swindler was close to luck-neutral here (he did hit Bridges and Fishing Villages... as he should have, as they were the most common cards in my deck)


http://councilroom.com/game?game_id=game-20120303-143306-11367fc9.html

He swindler's my original salvager into a gardens, which is annoying but not deadly since I draw the gardens early with Salvager. Not sure about this one.


There was one last game where my turn four 4$ was swindled into a gardens. I kinda-sorta-ragequit and stopped playing swindler games after that.

[Mean Mr Mustard]

I think that Swindler is pretty much one of those fight-fire-with-fire kind of cards.  Sure, there are times when the Kingdom is unfriendly to it, but on the whole there isn't a lot you can do other than plan your buys to mitigate, ie avoid mediocre cards that cost the same as a bad card or to buy Gold on a board with no other sixes, things like that.

Swindler is not a broken card in that it doesn't destroy decks every time, but it has a lot of potential to cause havoc some of the time, so it is hard to ignore.  It isn't a particularly skill-based card so I tend to veto it.  Using it will usually get the opponent to mirror and the game may be decided on who gets the better swindler hits.

[DG]

In the first game you opened with a nomad camp and that should have been a swindler for your game plan. Golem-goons-peddlar looks quite tempting.