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[LaLight]

Final Vote Count Day 1

Xxraptorslayer96 (1): Hydrad
WestCoastDidds (1): Awaclus
chairs (2): infangthief, Uncleeurope
infangthief (6): LaLight, hypercube, chairs, DatSwan, WestCoastDidds, Xxraptorslayer96

With 10 alive, it took 6 to lynch.

[LaLight]

Here's what it came down to...


Xxraptorslayer96 (1): Hydrad
WestCoastDidds (1): Awaclus
chairs (2): infangthief, Uncleeurope
infangthief (6): LaLight, hypercube, chairs, DatSwan, WestCoastDidds, Xxraptorslayer96

The first 4 had been there most of the day, and raptor and I had to join at the last minute to avoid a no lynch since the people who were around to vote had limited maneuverability.

I am perhaps more interested in Hydrad and Awa, who weren't on Fang, but were instead paving the way for no lynch. Especially Awaclus who made his change near the end in a way that was fully anti-town. And Raptor coming back was a total surprise. If he hadn't, I'm not sure we'd have had the numbers for a lynch.

vote: Awaclus

The problem is that DS, me and hyper were there to ensure chairs lynch if it comes to that

[LaLight]

uh I am also have no one to speak to, both killed were europeans

[LaLight]

Awaclus, so you think WCD is scum but not voting for her?

[Uncleeurope]

I’m here for a bit, but I doubt you are too interested in talking to me.

The only thing that concerns me about hydrad is he was willing to kill off chairs when it came down to it, but strongly against the Thief kill. I dunno, I guess I am just not putting Hydrad at the top of my current list right now.

[LaLight]

I’m here for a bit, but I doubt you are too interested in talking to me.

The only thing that concerns me about hydrad is he was willing to kill off chairs when it came down to it, but strongly against the Thief kill. I dunno, I guess I am just not putting Hydrad at the top of my current list right now.

Why not talk to you?

Hydrad didn't put chairs on L-1. I don't see how he was willing to kill off chairs never voting for him

[Uncleeurope]

Well, IORC he committed to hammering him before the deadline, a conmitment that would be very scummy to break. I don’t think he would risk making hat statements if he was unwilling to hammer chairs.

[Uncleeurope]

Well, IIRC he committed to hammering him before the deadline, a conmitment that would be very scummy to break. I don’t think he would risk making that statements if he was unwilling to hammer chairs.

Stinkin’ Spell fixer thingy... And phone keyboard thingy...

[LaLight]

Well, IORC he committed to hammering him before the deadline, a conmitment that would be very scummy to break. I don’t think he would risk making hat statements if he was unwilling to hammer chairs.

But then he wasn't here at deadline

[Uncleeurope]

Well, a hammer happened before the deadline, I even tried to post 15 minutes pre-day-end and I couldn’t post before the thread locked.

He said he would stop by and vote if no one was voted out yet.

Again, super risky statement to say without follow through regardless.

[LaLight]

well, in the end he could easily be bussing. If I was a dayvig, I would glasly kill chairs now, because that would be super informative

[Uncleeurope]

Ooh, bussing’s a new one for me, what’s that one mean?

And I don’t have a hugely strong town read on Hydrad or anything, just trying to show another perspective.

[LaLight]

Ooh, bussing’s a new one for me, what’s that one mean?

And I don’t have a hugely strong town read on Hydrad or anything, just trying to show another perspective.

Bussing is when one scum scumreads another and tries to lynch them

[LaLight]

if Awaclus is the scumteam with WCD, he busses her hard

[Uncleeurope]

Oh, and I guess I will have to get my answer tomorrow, since it’s sleepy-time for me. And Wednesday’s are hard days for me to post during, so who knows if I will do much tomorrow, it all depends.

Edit: after reading your post because I’m too lazy to fix it, and if hydrad was bussing here, that would be amazing.

[WestCoastDidds]

if Awaclus is the scumteam with WCD, he busses her hard

Ha! Your example makes me laugh! Kind of like being thrown under a bus?

I have been trying to work through my antipathy towards him. This is what I came up with....I am feeling some guilt over lynching Fang. Going into the last vote, I felt townie about him, but when my flight landed at twenty till DL, all these people who said they would be around at DL weren't there, so it felt pressure to switch my vote (which in retrospect was a bad idea). So, when Awa moved his vote to me was aggravating since it was not at all helpful in helping us make a choice between fang and chairs. Pressure in general is not my favorite thing, but perhaps I felt more rushed/forced than I needed to  because in addition to the DL I was juggling getting off of a plane, calling a Lyft, and navigating the hubbub of an airport so it added to my sense of heightened tension. *I know it is just a game and I shouldn't feel about about lynching Fang, but I totally do.*

I also think it is significant that two newbs have been eliminated, so I feel certain that at least one, maybe two vets are behind it. Eliminating the newbs is easy. We aren't cagey and are still figuring out how to go about putting together a read. (I'm assuming Hypercube was killed because faust was his coach, and there was a low probability that he'd be protected because newb.) I think any scum!vet could make a case against raptor, eddie, or I pretty easily in the same way a case was made against fang by just using our inexperience against us. Now that we know he was town, his chairs tunnel reads differently. The chances of both scum being newb seems pretty much impossible based on what we have seen so far because either Eddie or Raptor would be running that show (its not me, obvi) and I don't see that level of skill here.

So, I think look at the vets carefully today (chairs, LL, hydrad, swan, Awa) and lynch one of them D2. Of those folks, LL was the most anti-Fang, and Swan is providing the most well-rounded assessments, but I am looking forward to hearing what others think.

[chairs]

Yeah I can definitely vote: hydrad and also “could of” is incorrect it is “could have” - the contraction spelled could’ve is throwing you off since it sounds like could of.

I see the argument that hydrad and I could be Partners. I’m into an early hydrad lynch to remove one of us from the board so that the argument doesn’t come up later that we’re both scum, and then I’ll understand if I’m subsequently tomorrow’s lynch. Hydrad seems like a solid guess for scum given current events, particularly since my aggressive (for me) D1 play makes me an easy mislynch target for d2-3 so it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s the reluctance to vote me that he appears to have exhibited throughout D1.

[chairs]

FWIW if WCD and another newbie are partners the “look at the vets” suggestions is pretty good strategy to avoid review of yourselves and I applaud you for it.

[silverspawn]

Vote Count 2.1

Hydrad (3): DatSwan, LaLight, chairs
Awaclus (1): WestCoastDidds

Not Voting (4): Xxraptorslayer96, Hydrad, Uncleeurope, Awaclus

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 2 ends at Sep 19, 18:00 forum time. That is in 7 days and 7+ hours.

[Xxraptorslayer96]

Going to try and be more helpful today then I was D1. I’m just finishing up reading.

 I can get on the Hydrad wagon, not going to put them at L-1 just yet.

[WestCoastDidds]

LL, where did this information come from?

No. I may step on thin ice now, but i think Raptor requested replacement, so we should at least wait for someone else. This makes his inactivity NAI (not alignment indicative)

[Hydrad]

Oo a wagon I like wagons. Ah but it's on me... hmm.

Well I'm at work again today so I can't do it right now but when I get off work. I think around 6pm forum time. I'll try to answer every single one of datswan stuff points against me as I can give reasons behind almost each one from skimming his points.

And then I become an IC and it's easy.

[Uncleeurope]

Anyone else feel like LL is playing the defeated card too much? He lost a lot of backbone after Thief died, I would have assumed that he would push for me to die next or something, but he just very passively states that he has poor reads and that he doesn’t trust himself anymore. Just seems like he gave up too easily.

Basically this feels like justification to me. Either that or depression.

So either we vote for LL, or we hug him.

(Just noting that I don’t feel that strongly about this, just didn’t want that thought to go unpublished)

[WestCoastDidds]

I don't want to agree with you, Uncle, because you get all "she's buddying me" when I am not, but I also think LL is worth a second look.

I asked where LL got the info that Raptor was going to/might be replaced a post or two ago. He hasn't had a chance to answer yet.

But if LL is scum and Raptor is his scum sidekick, it would make sense that he was bothered by his absence more than the rest of us, maybe reached out to have him replaced, and also discouraged us from voting him just because he was MIA.

LL seems so town, but he's also very good at this game, so seeming town would be his jam, right? Am I being overly suspicious?

[LaLight]

Anyone else feel like LL is playing the defeated card too much? He lost a lot of backbone after Thief died, I would have assumed that he would push for me to die next or something, but he just very passively states that he has poor reads and that he doesn’t trust himself anymore. Just seems like he gave up too easily.

Basically this feels like justification to me. Either that or depression.

So either we vote for LL, or we hug him.

(Just noting that I don’t feel that strongly about this, just didn’t want that thought to go unpublished)

Hug me plz