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[WestCoastDidds]

what about if you were scum along with another newbie?

You caught a scumslip I was talking about!

I don't think there was a scumslip. Seemed like a very townie response to me.

Supertownie, that's me! So far my meta is that she is super townie.

Definitely not a scumslip. I hadn't thought much about if I had been scum and it had been with another newb that I might have still wanted a coach. That scenario (coach and partner) seems really complicated to me to manage (I am usually doing this on my phone so having many tabs open is hard). I have been a coach advocate since the idea was introduced. I was basing that desire off of the conversations the scum had in the previous game, which were really helpful for me to read in retrospect. As far as my coach, I like having a question-answerer and I am also liking getting to know someone in this community a little bit better without having to be suspicious of him. Iguanaiguana knows stuff, is awesome, and likes cats.

Awaclus....I can't say that I find him scummy one way or another, but I don't find him at all helpful. Which is not awesome. My vote is still on Chairs, based on his first post when he called us all scummy, which was sort of randomly assigned since it was really early on, but he has done nothing to cause me to move it. He is also not helpful. Not helpful is as close to scummy as it gets.

I find Swan helpful. LL somewhat helpful. Eddie and Fang helpful. That makes them townie for me.

Hyper, Raptor, and Hydrad....don't know.

[LaLight]

what about if you were scum along with another newbie?

You caught a scumslip I was talking about!

I don't think there was a scumslip. Seemed like a very townie response to me.

Supertownie, that's me! So far my meta is that she is super townie.

Definitely not a scumslip. I hadn't thought much about if I had been scum and it had been with another newb that I might have still wanted a coach. That scenario (coach and partner) seems really complicated to me to manage (I am usually doing this on my phone so having many tabs open is hard). I have been a coach advocate since the idea was introduced. I was basing that desire off of the conversations the scum had in the previous game, which were really helpful for me to read in retrospect. As far as my coach, I like having a question-answerer and I am also liking getting to know someone in this community a little bit better without having to be suspicious of him. Iguanaiguana knows stuff, is awesome, and likes cats.

Awaclus....I can't say that I find him scummy one way or another, but I don't find him at all helpful. Which is not awesome. My vote is still on Chairs, based on his first post when he called us all scummy, which was sort of randomly assigned since it was really early on, but he has done nothing to cause me to move it. He is also not helpful. Not helpful is as close to scummy as it gets.

I find Swan helpful. LL somewhat helpful. Eddie and Fang helpful. That makes them townie for me.

Hyper, Raptor, and Hydrad....don't know.

Why did you change the stance on Hydrad? You called him helpful and townie as well for the doctors' plan

How is Eddie helpful?

I love cats too. I am working part time in cat caffee - the place where we take cats from shelters to get people to know them and then give them to people free of charge. I have 2 cats from it myself. So cat adorer detected!

[infangthief]

Iguanas are herbivorous, so I think it is unlikely that they like cats.

[infangthief]

But while we're on the subject of animals...

DS can I sheep you please (not right now though)

sheep?

[WestCoastDidds]

But while we're on the subject of animals...

DS can I sheep you please (not right now though)

sheep?

Follow like a sheep. This is helpful for the words http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=16266.0

[WestCoastDidds]

Why did you change the stance on Hydrad? You called him helpful and townie as well for the doctors' plan

How is Eddie helpful?

I love cats too. I am working part time in cat caffee - the place where we take cats from shelters to get people to know them and then give them to people free of charge. I have 2 cats from it myself. So cat adorer detected!

A cat cafe! That is awesome! Those are just starting to be a thing here. One opened in Austin recently. My cats are orange boys...Scott and Brad. We are going out of town this weekend so they are currently pissed at us and sleeping just out of petting reach next to me on the couch.

I had forgotten that Hydrad had been helpful earlier. (It is still the wee hours of the morning here and the coffee is still brewing). I don't have a bad feeling about him, I just don't have much feeling about him at all.  Which means he hasn't been around much lately. So, I think my sense of helpfulness also includes engagement.

I keep waffling on Awaclus. He confuses me and seems so cagey. And I get that is how he plays, but I also am not sure how we are supposed to work together with that communication style.

[WestCoastDidds]

Iguanas are herbivorous, so I think it is unlikely that they like cats.

I don't think he eats them. But that is just a guess.

[infangthief]

But while we're on the subject of animals...

DS can I sheep you please (not right now though)

sheep?

Follow like a sheep. This is helpful for the words http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=16266.0

Thank you. It says "When a player votes for or argues against a player based on another players content."

So, LaLight, I would be interested to know why your vote is not in the same place as DatSwan's.

[Awaclus]

That being said they are also pretty sharp, so you should think they are skummy for not realizing the obvious error in the Doctoring plan.

I maintain that there is nothing wrong with the Doctoring plan.

So why didn't Awaclus at some point say "guys, this plan gives too much info to scum, we need to go with the softer version". Because now he is claiming that the softer plan is what he was liking all along.

LaLight had already said the softer version out loud at that point. It's not productive to repeat to scum over and over again how the doctors are going to trick them by agreeing to a plan they're not going to follow, that defeats the entire purpose of the plan.

Seems unlikely to be both him and Awaclus, however.

Very unlikely that the scum is both me and chairs. The chances are 0%.

[LaLight]

But while we're on the subject of animals...

DS can I sheep you please (not right now though)

sheep?

Follow like a sheep. This is helpful for the words http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=16266.0

Thank you. It says "When a player votes for or argues against a player based on another players content."

So, LaLight, I would be interested to know why your vote is not in the same place as DatSwan's.

I formed some reads since then. Initially when I said that, DS was on Awaclus and it was L-1, so this would be a lynch. Since then, as I pointed out numerous times, I started scumreading Eddie.

Also, DS didn't say yes

[infangthief]

Thanks LaLight, just wanted to know the status of your sheep arrangement.

Your cat work sounds cool too. Is it difficult to limit yourself to not having too many cats yourself?

I think I'm ready to move on to Eddie now.
- 'Medium' percentage chance of lying as town? Unhelpful, a bit scummy.
- Saying he likes 'this Thief fellow' (buddying?) and later moving his vote the same way as mine? A bit scummy.
- Finding it difficult to work out how to react to things? Ok, I know the forum and it's 'meta' are unfamiliar territory for him, but really he just seems overly concerned about 'reacting properly'.

vote: Eddie

[LaLight]

Your cat work sounds cool too. Is it difficult to limit yourself to not having too many cats yourself?

I have an arrangement with my wife in which I will be allowed to take more cats if I buy a bigger house.

vote count please

[silverspawn]

Vote Count 1.5

Awaclus (3): hypercube, DatSwan, Uncleeurope
Xxraptorslayer96 (2): Awaclus, Hydrad
chairs (2): WestCoastDidds, Xxraptorslayer96
Uncleeurope (3): LaLight, chairs, infangthief

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 1 ends at Sep 10, 18:00 forum time. That is in 3 days and 9+ hours.

[WestCoastDidds]

Very unlikely that the scum is both me and chairs. The chances are 0%.

Why is that? Just because you are not scum?

[WestCoastDidds]

Your cat work sounds cool too. Is it difficult to limit yourself to not having too many cats yourself?

I have an arrangement with my wife in which I will be allowed to take more cats if I buy a bigger house.

vote count please

That is an excellent arrangement. I figure if I ever lose my taste for cities and move to the country, I can get a barn and all the cats!

[WestCoastDidds]

Awaclus, how do you feel about cats?

[Awaclus]

Why is that? Just because you are not scum?

Yes.

Awaclus, how do you feel about cats?

Cats are fine, but I'm more of a tarantula person when it comes to pets and I'm not really even that much of a pet person in the first place (i.e. I don't have a tarantula).

[infangthief]

I'm expecting to be a lot less active over the next couple of days, though I'll still try and check in from time to time.
I think I'm happy with my vote on Uncleeurope, but could probably be interested by other cases.
Should be a bit more available again from about Monday 3am forum time (i.e. 15 hours before the deadline).

[LaLight]

I'm expecting to be a lot less active over the next couple of days, though I'll still try and check in from time to time.
I think I'm happy with my vote on Uncleeurope, but could probably be interested by other cases.

Ditto

[LaLight]

I am always vla on weekends. I should probably put it into the sig now when I made it shorter

[WestCoastDidds]

Cats are fine, but I'm more of a tarantula person when it comes to pets and I'm not really even that much of a pet person in the first place (i.e. I don't have a tarantula).

Well, they are furry, I guess. So somewhat more snuggly than a fish.

LL,, you have an orange kitty, too!!  I love it!

[WestCoastDidds]

I'll try to reread UncleEddie today.

I wonder if the people who have been scarce this week might be able to weigh in this weekend.

[hypercube]

vote: Eddie. I think he has an above-average chance of being scum. However, if he is town, by claiming VT he made it easier for scum to find the doctors and therefore he would be the least-bad mislynch.

[WestCoastDidds]

So, that L-2.

I’m not reading Eddie as scummy.

But Hyper is making a different argument...that Eddie is a safer kill than other town folk.  Is that good enough? We still have lots of time.

I’m curious what others think...

[Uncleeurope]

Regarding me being about to die, I would like to reiterate how the whole Doctor bit from the beginning followed by me claiming #NotaDoctor is not something a sane scum would do. (Or at least something I wouldn't do, a whole lot of information that gives you, I just gave subjective facts about myself, good job me, 10/10 defense)

I play a lot of these games IRL and negative information is a key component in all of them, eliminating options for the future in a way that has no guarantee to actually be helpful is foolish. Scum would want to hold into a scenario where you all think they are a doctor until challenged, I offered it willingly, because I was trying to clarify something to town. Information I found important. (It was stupid, though, Eddie. I mean, come on) Shut up.

Basically, while all of these actions could have been taken by scum, they would be bad, but taken by ton, they are slightly less bad. (But still bad) You're not helping.

Regarding me buddying Thief, fair. I have a problem with that, I always need friends in these games, so I do that a lot as both town and scum. (More subjective facts, stop it, Eddie, surely you got something better...) Also ironic that I am concerned with WCD's friendship of me...

I am kind of concerned about the ramifications of my death. When I flip town (Good job Eddie, tell the world that scenario with so much authority that it must be true, I'm sure they'll believe you) people might start targeting LL and I don't distrust the guy, I just think he is taking this gut reaction thing a bit too far.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Cube's point is slightly moot because hopefully Docs would claim before death, so anyone dying during a lynch would be pretty much scum or NT. Therefor any day lynches are "safe." But, hey, I am definitely the best townie to lynch right now. What a cheerful thought.

Okay, I'm done with the "trying and failing to explainify why I am a good guy" portion of the show. Because these bits hardly matter, don't they?

On to Awaclus, he seems completely uninterested in the voting process, just chilling with Raptor not even talking about other options, he is only in self-preservation mode. That's why I voted for him, he seems unconcerned with controlling the voting in any way, like he plans to just follow the voting around until a decision is made for him. Not a usual town behavior in my experience. (I thought you were done defending yourself?)

For this post?

I am now.