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Author Topic: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Game Over, Town Wins!)  (Read 125737 times)

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #900 on: September 07, 2018, 06:56:46 pm »

Hey y'all don't use bold teal text. Offenders each get a slap on the wrist.
Sorry mine was from just copying the vote counts directly too
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #901 on: September 07, 2018, 07:09:22 pm »

Regarding Day 1, would E hammer, knowing his partner was also on wagon? This seems sort of unlikely. Which means the last scum is Galz or Dsell.

Not really. There were 5 other people on wagon, and that left 6 off wagon - and the lynch, while dumb, was defensible by people like you pushing it to happen instantly.

I don't think the Day 2 wagon tells us anything, because as far as scum knew, gkrieg was town.

It tells us just as much as the D1 wagon, where as far as scum was concerned, PPS was town. Your choice to just dismiss this day because it's convenient for you is scummy.

E hammered on Day 1. He sent us to night. He did this knowing he'd take heat. He would have had to choose this, knowing he had a partner on wagon. I don't think mafia would play it like that.

On Day, 2... E doesn't cast a hammer vote, so he doesn't have control of what the final wagon looks like. You say I dismiss it--okay, I'll un-dismiss it, I'm on the wagon and so is E, so again... maybe not something scum does here? You are off both wagons, Dsell and Joseph are both on one and off one, I am on both wagons. So.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #902 on: September 07, 2018, 07:10:01 pm »

Really, if you're scum I expected this push at me tomorrow, not today.

Right, I'm not scum, I'm legitimately suspicious of you, given the pool has been reduced to three people and you're one of them!
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #903 on: September 07, 2018, 08:31:23 pm »

Ill have time to think and reread some time this weekend if kaitlin gets called in. I have current thoughts but want to wait before I say more.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #904 on: September 09, 2018, 12:30:41 pm »

Too quiet in here.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #905 on: September 09, 2018, 12:37:18 pm »

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #906 on: September 09, 2018, 12:45:28 pm »

Well, I've given my tentative scum ranking, not sure why everyone else cannot do the same.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #907 on: September 09, 2018, 07:29:25 pm »

Smith Rock

Vote count 5.1

not voting (5): Galzria, McMcsalot, Robz888, Joseph2302, Dsell

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Day 5 ends, Friday, September 14, 2018, 05:30:00 pm.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #908 on: September 09, 2018, 08:31:46 pm »

Sorry about my quietness, I've been really busy and am now maybe-hopefully-not getting sick.

I still believe Galz has been playing really pro-town but I need to do a reread to know if there could be scum connections there. I feel like neither Joseph nor Robz has been super pro-town or anti-town. Definitely nobody's play is screaming scum so I don't think my reads are valuable until I can do a reread, and I can't quite yet.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #909 on: September 10, 2018, 04:47:11 am »

I'm aiming to do a reread tonight
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #910 on: September 10, 2018, 09:09:34 am »

I sill have my thoughts but am very curious to hear what dsell and Joseph’s thoughts are.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #911 on: September 10, 2018, 02:44:51 pm »

So rereading gkrieg to look for clues/breadcrumbs:

D1:
Reply #156, he says he thinks LL and I are both town. Turns out he was correct
Put PPS on L1

D2:
Voted e (#211)
And then voted Dsell immediately (#212)- unlikely he's switch from scum to scum, so minor town points to Dsell
#286- claimed VT
#292- accused Dsell of being scum for "coaching traitor"
Then very supportive of the plans whereby we had 3 conf!town cops at the time (because he knows there's a scum there- nothing else coming out from that)
#457- supports me and votes Robz
#458- accuses Dsell & galz of traitor coaching
#469- argues with me about Awaclus being town
#471- Dsell & galz again
#484- votes Galz
Then gets in some fake shenanigans about their vs his
And then claims insane cop and gets lynched


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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #912 on: September 10, 2018, 02:45:26 pm »

I think from that my lynch preferences would be Robz > Galz > Dsell > Joseph
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #913 on: September 10, 2018, 02:56:08 pm »

Only time that gkrieg went for Robz was out of self-preservation
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #914 on: September 10, 2018, 02:56:59 pm »

So rereading gkrieg to look for clues/breadcrumbs:

D1:
Reply #156, he says he thinks LL and I are both town. Turns out he was correct
Put PPS on L1

D2:
Voted e (#211)
And then voted Dsell immediately (#212)- unlikely he's switch from scum to scum, so minor town points to Dsell
#286- claimed VT
#292- accused Dsell of being scum for "coaching traitor"
Then very supportive of the plans whereby we had 3 conf!town cops at the time (because he knows there's a scum there- nothing else coming out from that)
#457- supports me and votes Robz
#458- accuses Dsell & galz of traitor coaching
#469- argues with me about Awaclus being town
#471- Dsell & galz again
#484- votes Galz
Then gets in some fake shenanigans about their vs his
And then claims insane cop and gets lynched

Interesting that he votes for Galz, Dsell, and me at various points, but never for you.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #915 on: September 10, 2018, 02:57:47 pm »

Plus that D1 was scummy. I've said it before and I stand by it. We didn't need to quickhammer, and we shouldn't have done. N1 scum always kills faust, especially when he comes up with the plans. Would've been better to wait and see if he had any other ideas on the game

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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #916 on: September 10, 2018, 02:58:19 pm »

So rereading gkrieg to look for clues/breadcrumbs:

D1:
Reply #156, he says he thinks LL and I are both town. Turns out he was correct
Put PPS on L1

D2:
Voted e (#211)
And then voted Dsell immediately (#212)- unlikely he's switch from scum to scum, so minor town points to Dsell
#286- claimed VT
#292- accused Dsell of being scum for "coaching traitor"
Then very supportive of the plans whereby we had 3 conf!town cops at the time (because he knows there's a scum there- nothing else coming out from that)
#457- supports me and votes Robz
#458- accuses Dsell & galz of traitor coaching
#469- argues with me about Awaclus being town
#471- Dsell & galz again
#484- votes Galz
Then gets in some fake shenanigans about their vs his
And then claims insane cop and gets lynched

Interesting that he votes for Galz, Dsell, and me at various points, but never for you.
I had noticed that. But it doesn't mean what you're trying to imply
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #917 on: September 10, 2018, 03:00:51 pm »

I am re-reading now. I think if you re-read gkrieg fairly, you will come away with the strong impression that he was at virtually all times, during Day 2, pushing me and trying to get my lynched.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #918 on: September 10, 2018, 03:02:16 pm »

I admit my scum read on Galz has weakened a bit upon re-read. He has received a whole lot of votes this game, whereas I feel like scum!Galz is something nobody sees coming, for some reason.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #919 on: September 10, 2018, 03:05:22 pm »

During Day 2, Dsell was a staunch defender of E, insistent that E was telling the truth. Not sure if this makes Dsell more or less likely to be E's partner.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #920 on: September 10, 2018, 03:08:56 pm »

It's quite frustrating that everybody talked about gkrieg endlessly for a while (a player that everyone town and scum, was in the dark about), while gkrieg himself said very little.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #921 on: September 10, 2018, 03:11:06 pm »

I'm concerned that Dsell's unvote of gkrieg--Reply #614--is coming from a mafia player who has finally realized, "shit, gkrieg is the traitor, what am I doing? UNVOTE"
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #922 on: September 10, 2018, 03:13:17 pm »

Well, later he revote.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #923 on: September 10, 2018, 03:17:05 pm »

On Day 3 now. Dsell is perhaps a little townie for that stupid attempt to flavor-cheat our way to catching scum.
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Re: M118: Pacific Northwest Mafia (Day Five!)
« Reply #924 on: September 10, 2018, 03:19:28 pm »

Galz immediately joins in calling for an E lynch on Day 3, which seems townie.
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