I apologize to one and all for my late foray into this whole D1 thing - and being this close to deadline. I honestly thought it was on Tuesday, not today, but I obviously haven't been paying much attention. That aside, it wouldn't have changed my tardiness here - real life and work have prevented me from being as present as I wished to be... but alas, that isn't exactly anything new on my end.
To the meat of my Silver vote - and one that I honestly hope isn't too late for others to get on board with. I recognize in advance this isn't the "best case ever built" - but I DO think that it's more indicative of a scum alignment than most D1 cases - that is, it isn't focused solely on "Well, this person is a better D3 lynch than a D1 lynch", or "LALL", or "enter nonsense D1 scumslip here". The case is mostly based on a series of things that I feel like have been designed to dictate the way D1 has gone - that is, SS has tried to control the conversation D1, which is far easier and more likely to come from a source of knowledge (scum), rather than from a source of uncertainty (town):
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Okay everyone, I am giving Skump a hard D1 pass for no reason other than that he had the boldness to ask.
Iguana is his partner.
I like how you think.
You really shouldn't. could both of you say how serious your comments were?
This was a small, early thing, that I responded to (my response probably came across harsher than I meant - I meant it more tongue in cheek), but what stood out to me then was that SS, as a third party to Gkrieg and I, would feel the need to attempt to dictate how we read a situation. It was more than just a "I disagree with what you think" though, it was "You shouldn't think that" - it's an attempt to dictate and control.
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That's a stupid vote. My instinct is to vote you in return but I don't think it actually makes you scummy.
This was in response to Simon voting for Space. This was the point in time that I began to scum read SS for this particular style of play. He didn't argue anything about the case that Simon made... he simply tried to dictate what/how Simon should read the game.
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Ok, let's see where we are
iguana and skumpy are towny. Everyone else is null.
Not too great. We still have some time but not too much.
Maybe I could go for galz. I don't like the total dismissiveness of the scumslip. What if it actually was a scumslip?
Actually, that possibility sort of negates the towniness of skumpy and puts him closer to null. But I'm not voting for him anyway so it doesn't really matter.
This was followed by an immediate vote for me - now, there are certainly reasons to vote me, but this reason isn't one - first, it wasn't a scumslip - that doesn't mean the involved parties aren't scum, it just means that the "scumslip" wasn't one. Second, I was hardly the only person to very quickly state the above opinion. And third, well, I'll circle back because it's kinda my second thing about SS that I've found scummy. The last point here is how SS has tried to control the way the thread viewed the "scumslip". It's a subtle progression from "probably not one" and ends with him essentially calling it a real thing... except this should cause him to vote Skumpy... right? Except... he doesn't? And doesn't even really scum read Skumpy for a scumslip that he's saying is a thing... Here, watch:
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This doesn't seem like one to me either, but I wouldn't disount it completely.
Maybe I could go for galz. I don't like the total dismissiveness of the scumslip. What if it actually was a scumslip?
skumpy is no longer towny since they just admitted to have planed the deal thing before the game started. Now slightly scummy for the scumslip.
And this actually leads in to my second thing about SS's play - he's been very good at pushing town in one direction while not involving himself, or pushing a town narrative while keeping undertones of "but don't rule scum out here!"... that is, he's saying one thing, while coming across as meaning the opposite - in a way that just feels manipulative to me.
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hello.
iguana is the only one making sense so far. Okay everyone, I am giving Skump a hard D1 pass for no reason other than that he had the boldness to ask.
I concur. I won't actually do the agreement with skumpy, though.
"I agree with Iguana for supporting Skumpy here, but I won't support Skumpy here"
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Simon seems so scummy to me that I'm beginning to think it's not an alignment think but a tone thing.
"Dude over here is scummy... but you didn't hear it from me!"
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I super duper strongly disagree that only scum cares about scumslips. I think town cares more about scumslips, generally.
This doesn't seem like one to me either, but I wouldn't disount it completely.
"This probably isn't a scumslip... but it could be!"
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That's a stupid vote. My instinct is to vote you in return but I don't think it actually makes you scummy.
"You deserve to be voted for your post... but I don't wanna be the one to do it!"
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ok. vote: EFHW is as good as any.
I can't remember any game in which she was lynched early. Let's see what some day1 pressure does.
"Let's get and EFHW wagon going!..."
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Also unvote I don't like the EFHW wagon. It has basically no justification and picked up too quickly.
The people who jumped on it are where I would look for scum now. Ironically, that's iguana. But then he changed. The others are raptor and simon.
vote: simon
"That was a scummy wagon on EFHW. I need to make sure to spin this to other people before it comes back to me for jumping on it with Iguana"
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Vote: silver given the closeness of deadline.
Why not TA or simon? They're both much more likely to be scum.
And this is just confirmation bias, but this just feels much more likely to be a scum response than a town response.
And that's pretty much it. If you look over his vote history, he's been all over the map, and making changes quickly and often without reason, which has felt like he's trying to spread suspicion around as much as possible and keep as many doors open as he can. Overall, his play D1 has just come across as manipulative - like he wants to be in control of how people are thinking and voting. He's seemed to have his opinions set, and has come across as wanting to sow distrust wherever possible.
Just my 2 cents.