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[LaLight]

Are scum lovers possible? Balance-wise? Given changing alignments?

[mcmcsalot]

well, if faust is not happening, I'd vote: Robz. I think faust wants us to derail from himself to lurker. That's easy

This is back to l-2 pps as pps unvoted.

I’m very happy that the three people who started the efhw wagon are all not on this one and robz was the fourth.

They wouldn't be as they were presumably on the Robz wagon day 1. I don't think there were many scums on EFHW at all, so I do not see how this would make you happy.

I think efhw’s wagon was infact scummy. I think it was an easy wagon for scum to be on and think it’s a rare situation where more scum than normal could have been on it based on the free votes after her self vote.

So first you are like "the people who started this wagon are scummy" and now "the people who voted after EFHW claimed are scummy". Which is it?

The two do not have to be mutually exclusive. I think overall the wagon is likely to have lots of scum on it because I think he beginning was scummy and I think the end was free for scum to join if they needed to.

[faust]

Are scum lovers possible? Balance-wise? Given changing alignments?

No.

[faust]

I have to say now that I read to Robz case I am mesmerized by how terrible it is.

[faust]

well, if faust is not happening, I'd vote: Robz. I think faust wants us to derail from himself to lurker. That's easy

This is back to l-2 pps as pps unvoted.

I’m very happy that the three people who started the efhw wagon are all not on this one and robz was the fourth.

They wouldn't be as they were presumably on the Robz wagon day 1. I don't think there were many scums on EFHW at all, so I do not see how this would make you happy.

I think efhw’s wagon was infact scummy. I think it was an easy wagon for scum to be on and think it’s a rare situation where more scum than normal could have been on it based on the free votes after her self vote.

So first you are like "the people who started this wagon are scummy" and now "the people who voted after EFHW claimed are scummy". Which is it?

The two do not have to be mutually exclusive. I think overall the wagon is likely to have lots of scum on it because I think he beginning was scummy and I think the end was free for scum to join if they needed to.

How many scum do you think there are? Like 6 or 7 or what?

[mcmcsalot]

I don’t see how outing the other lover is bad.

The only reason keeping the second a secret is the try to protect robz from getting night killed and if we put the second there is a 50/50 chance we protect one of the lover. But if the other lover doesn’t claim we have no clue if robz is telling the truth.

If the other lover does claim we have reason to use protection on the lovers and we can trust they are town or robz’s scum partner backing him up

[LaLight]

we have reason to use protection on the lovers

Out of context plz

[pingpongsam]

Agreeing with mcmc. Robz is refusing to answer if the other person even knows much less who it actually is.

[mcmcsalot]

well, if faust is not happening, I'd vote: Robz. I think faust wants us to derail from himself to lurker. That's easy

This is back to l-2 pps as pps unvoted.

I’m very happy that the three people who started the efhw wagon are all not on this one and robz was the fourth.

They wouldn't be as they were presumably on the Robz wagon day 1. I don't think there were many scums on EFHW at all, so I do not see how this would make you happy.

I think efhw’s wagon was infact scummy. I think it was an easy wagon for scum to be on and think it’s a rare situation where more scum than normal could have been on it based on the free votes after her self vote.

So first you are like "the people who started this wagon are scummy" and now "the people who voted after EFHW claimed are scummy". Which is it?

The two do not have to be mutually exclusive. I think overall the wagon is likely to have lots of scum on it because I think he beginning was scummy and I think the end was free for scum to join if they needed to.

How many scum do you think there are? Like 6 or 7 or what?

I would assume 3 but man what your saying g is unnecessary stop acting like I’m going “oh man alll the first three people are scum and like two of the ending people are scum” I’m just saying I think the wagon is more likely to have higher numbers of scum then normal. You can disagree but please be a little less antagonizing.

[pingpongsam]

Can a lover be protected and not die while the other does die?

[Robz888]

I mean, you will know I was a Lover when I'm suddenly dead after the other person dies, you dolts.

[LaLight]

I mean, you will know I was a Lover when I'm suddenly dead after the other person dies, you dolts.

Unless none of you dies up to the end of the game when we get to decide what to do next

[mcmcsalot]

Agreeing with mcmc. Robz is refusing to answer if the other person even knows much less who it actually is.

Yep he is most likely buying time to decide if a partner will voluntarily back him up, or if he should claim they don’t know and try to convince us that way.

Can a lover be protected and not die while the other does die?

I’m almost certain no. Either death triggers both

[mcmcsalot]

I mean, you will know I was a Lover when I'm suddenly dead after the other person dies, you dolts.

Hahahahaha or you live for awhile and then your scum partner definitely won’t claim your other lover later if we run a wagon up on them.

[LaLight]

I don't know

[faust]

I would suggest Robz flavor claims but then since we have race claimed, a scum who knows flavor would probably be able to narrow down the potential lover. So great work on pushing the race claim Galz, really helpful right now.

[Robz888]

Agreeing with mcmc. Robz is refusing to answer if the other person even knows much less who it actually is.

Yep he is most likely buying time to decide if a partner will voluntarily back him up, or if he should claim they don’t know and try to convince us that way.

The other person knows, but thinks it's best for him not to out himself, so he's not confirming anything.

[Robz888]

I would suggest Robz flavor claims but then since we have race claimed, a scum who knows flavor would probably be able to narrow down the potential lover. So great work on pushing the race claim Galz, really helpful right now.

You are correct that I really shouldn't flavor claim.

[LaLight]

I would suggest Robz flavor claims but then since we have race claimed, a scum who knows flavor would probably be able to narrow down the potential lover. So great work on pushing the race claim Galz, really helpful right now.

Why do we need flavor claim from Robz anyway? Scum is always provided with fake claims, how does it accomplish anything

[faust]

Good thing mcmc has provided us with a lynch pool for today:

Robz voters have been:
D1, mcmc, Faust, pps, gkrieg, efhw, idp
D2, pps, efhw, idp, mcmc, lalight

Minus EFHW of course. But I am pretty much fine with most of these. Idplay > PPS > LaLight > mcmc.

[mcmcsalot]

There are 10 people. Assume 3 scum.

Robz wagon was: idp, efhw, mcmc, lalight, pps

Unless you are crazy it’s pretty clear me/lalight/pps are very unlikely to be robz lover, and idp can be added to that list.

Robz is actively trying to get gkrieg lynched so he’s out.

That leaves: Faust, galz, hydrad, haddock

Outing the other lover barely helps scums chances of killing both lovers. As I said any protection is still 50/50, and scum goes from at worst a 25% guess of robz other lover, and if any of Faust/galz/hydrad/haddock are scum that 25% goes drastically up.

[LaLight]

Good thing mcmc has provided us with a lynch pool for today:

Robz voters have been:
D1, mcmc, Faust, pps, gkrieg, efhw, idp
D2, pps, efhw, idp, mcmc, lalight

Minus EFHW of course. But I am pretty much fine with most of these. Idplay > PPS > LaLight > mcmc.

So you 100% believe Robz?

[faust]

Good thing mcmc has provided us with a lynch pool for today:

Robz voters have been:
D1, mcmc, Faust, pps, gkrieg, efhw, idp
D2, pps, efhw, idp, mcmc, lalight

Minus EFHW of course. But I am pretty much fine with most of these. Idplay > PPS > LaLight > mcmc.

So you 100% believe Robz?

Enough for today.

[mcmcsalot]

I would suggest Robz flavor claims but then since we have race claimed, a scum who knows flavor would probably be able to narrow down the potential lover. So great work on pushing the race claim Galz, really helpful right now.

Why do we need flavor claim from Robz anyway? Scum is always provided with fake claims, how does it accomplish anything

It accomplishes nothing other than Faust calling out galz. It’s unecessary to bring up, because even without us having race claimed it wouldn’t be helpful for robz to flavor claim.

[Robz888]

There are 10 people. Assume 3 scum.

Robz wagon was: idp, efhw, mcmc, lalight, pps

Unless you are crazy it’s pretty clear me/lalight/pps are very unlikely to be robz lover, and idp can be added to that list.

Robz is actively trying to get gkrieg lynched so he’s out.

That leaves: Faust, galz, hydrad, haddock

Outing the other lover barely helps scums chances of killing both lovers. As I said any protection is still 50/50, and scum goes from at worst a 25% guess of robz other lover, and if any of Faust/galz/hydrad/haddock are scum that 25% goes drastically up.

This is explicitly bad, you are helping scum.