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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #500 on: July 12, 2018, 09:54:31 am »

I think Haddock, Hydrad and possibly Galz are town, all the others I have no idea. pps feels scummy, but never in the world I would know why, gkrieg, idptg, mcmc, Robz are highly unmemorable, faust is scummy, who else is even here?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #501 on: July 12, 2018, 09:55:41 am »

PPE Lalight: Well that's closer to a case than anything I've seen, but it's hardly a great one.   Not posting much information is not a scum trait imo, it's pretty null.  Plenty of people are struggling to get traction on this game.

I was talking about "Stop. Halt. Desist" specifically, which you were presenting as a reason to vote him, which it really isn't.  That reaction is just as likely to come from town as scum.

Well, yeah, but if you have a direct question, why don't you answer it? It's a great way to participate in the game when you're struggling.

I mean, well, I am not HIGHLY scum-reading Robz, but my scumread's not going to happen and I want something to happen. Robz isn't on townie side, so why not
That's reasonable thought I still think Robz is on the towny side of null.  Who has asked him any direct questions?

Also who is your scumread?

You don't read my posts, do you? :)

Scumread is faust and I try to prove it for the second Day already, my direct question to Robz was after faust's list when Robz said he mostly agrees, I asked where is faust in his reads
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #502 on: July 12, 2018, 09:56:26 am »

I think Haddock, Hydrad and possibly Galz are town, all the others I have no idea. pps feels scummy, but never in the world I would know why, gkrieg, idptg, mcmc, Robz are highly unmemorable, faust is scummy, who else is even here?

Oh i think it's everybody
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #503 on: July 12, 2018, 10:00:43 am »

I am a town Lover, my death imperils another member of the town.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #504 on: July 12, 2018, 10:02:34 am »

Vote: faust
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #505 on: July 12, 2018, 10:02:56 am »

I am a town Lover, my death imperils another member of the town.

Are you sure your second member is town as well? unvote
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #506 on: July 12, 2018, 10:03:07 am »

I am a town Lover, my death imperils another member of the town.

Does your Lover know this?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #507 on: July 12, 2018, 10:03:22 am »

I am a town Lover, my death imperils another member of the town.

Are you sure your second member is town as well? unvote

Yes.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #508 on: July 12, 2018, 10:04:09 am »

well, if faust is not happening, I'd vote: Robz. I think faust wants us to derail from himself to lurker. That's easy

This is back to l-2 pps as pps unvoted.

I’m very happy that the three people who started the efhw wagon are all not on this one and robz was the fourth.
They wouldn't be as they were presumably on the Robz wagon day 1. I don't think there were many scums on EFHW at all, so I do not see how this would make you happy.

I think efhw’s wagon was infact scummy. I think it was an easy wagon for scum to be on and think it’s a rare situation where more scum than normal could have been on it based on the free votes after her self vote.
So first you are like "the people who started this wagon are scummy" and now "the people who voted after EFHW claimed are scummy". Which is it?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #509 on: July 12, 2018, 10:05:05 am »

I am a town Lover, my death imperils another member of the town.

Does your Lover know this?

I don't think I'm going to answer this.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #510 on: July 12, 2018, 10:05:24 am »

Faust voters have been small for how strongly they have pushed it which is interesting.

D1: gkrieg, Galz, lalight
D2: lalight, pps, Galz

So leaning scummier on Faust than before. Can’t track Faust. It’s on mobile sadly.

yeah, I mean there were lots of reasons and people just ignored it altogether, all of them, it's just us three
Maybe your reasons were crap and others saw them for what they were.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #511 on: July 12, 2018, 10:06:14 am »

I am a town Lover, my death imperils another member of the town.

Does your Lover know this?

I don't think I'm going to answer this.
So we can't have a confirming claim?

From mafiscum:
Tragic Lovers are a rather annoying variant. One can be town aligned. The other can be scum aligned. Each lover can have two win conditions. It can win with its own alignment as its lover loses. Or they can win together, acting as their own faction eliminating all other scum and town players. One must be careful how they eliminate the other players. Eliminating all the town first means the mafia will win with the town lover loosing. Eliminating all the scum first is suggested, but should the town lover just want the win immediately, they can rat the scum lover out. Proper play is for neither lover to screw the other over. They should pursue winning together. To encourage proper play, moderators often tell the pair they must win together and remove their abilities to win separately. When the tragic lovers win together, all other players lose.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #512 on: July 12, 2018, 10:06:55 am »

Faust voters have been small for how strongly they have pushed it which is interesting.

D1: gkrieg, Galz, lalight
D2: lalight, pps, Galz

So leaning scummier on Faust than before. Can’t track Faust. It’s on mobile sadly.

yeah, I mean there were lots of reasons and people just ignored it altogether, all of them, it's just us three
Maybe your reasons were crap and others saw them for what they were.

Maybe, thank you
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #513 on: July 12, 2018, 10:07:10 am »

i have no idea how faust got to the readlist only with one player on "null", I'd have most here on "null" if I made one, that's why I am not doing one
That's because you have been obsessing with me and ignoring everything else.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #514 on: July 12, 2018, 10:07:36 am »

OTOH:
a Cop may be a Lover to another player in order to increase the chance of them dying early enough that they cannot break the game.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #515 on: July 12, 2018, 10:08:03 am »

I am a town Lover, my death imperils another member of the town.

Does your Lover know this?

I don't think I'm going to answer this.
So we can't have a confirming claim?

From mafiscum:
Tragic Lovers are a rather annoying variant. One can be town aligned. The other can be scum aligned. Each lover can have two win conditions. It can win with its own alignment as its lover loses. Or they can win together, acting as their own faction eliminating all other scum and town players. One must be careful how they eliminate the other players. Eliminating all the town first means the mafia will win with the town lover loosing. Eliminating all the scum first is suggested, but should the town lover just want the win immediately, they can rat the scum lover out. Proper play is for neither lover to screw the other over. They should pursue winning together. To encourage proper play, moderators often tell the pair they must win together and remove their abilities to win separately. When the tragic lovers win together, all other players lose.
Great plan, let's out both or lovers so scum can shoot two townies at once without us being able to protect them!
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #516 on: July 12, 2018, 10:08:34 am »

how about vote: pps
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Full! PMs go out in ~8-16 hours)
« Reply #517 on: July 12, 2018, 10:08:39 am »

Haddock maybe you don’t know the robz case because you are not reading my posts, I’ve made the case twice before.

Once again the robz case:

Vote: mcmc for the uncharacteristically quick jumping down faust's throat.

Vote: robz for being scum check the past few games I have jumped down all inital "blah blah we should talk setup blah blah posts" they are useless

Followed by

lol

scummy verbalization of "hmm this is an interesting wagon not based on much, not sure how I should respond"

Then he goes on to sorta buddy hydrad by saying he is most likely telling he truth (role related read) town reads Galz based on claim. Then recently voted hydrad which is a reversal of his read for hydrad calling Faust scummy but not wanting to vote for him. So yea all that.

From there robz has made another scummy interaction involving Faust

Here is another thing to think about: DatSwan flipped flavor cop. Now if flavor implied alignment that would be a very strong role by itself, and stronger still since he had other stuff added on top of it. Which kind of makes me think that flavor does not indicate alignment in this game.

Counterpoint: I think this is wrong, and also, this thinking is more likely to come from scum.

Actually, I got that wrong. I think faust is mistaken about this, but the sentiment is not more likely to come from scum.

I think Faust statement was likely to come from either town or scum and robz pivoted because he thought it would be better to town read Faust then scum read him.

After that robz agrees with Faust’s reads and sheeps galz vote on gkrieg. As for the gkrieg wagon he went from zero votes, one post by galz and then got 5 votes in thirteen posts. He would have been at l-1 if pps didn’t Unvote in the middle of the sheep chain.




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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Full! PMs go out in ~8-16 hours)
« Reply #518 on: July 12, 2018, 10:10:22 am »

From there robz has made another scummy interaction involving Faust

Here is another thing to think about: DatSwan flipped flavor cop. Now if flavor implied alignment that would be a very strong role by itself, and stronger still since he had other stuff added on top of it. Which kind of makes me think that flavor does not indicate alignment in this game.

Counterpoint: I think this is wrong, and also, this thinking is more likely to come from scum.

Actually, I got that wrong. I think faust is mistaken about this, but the sentiment is not more likely to come from scum.
That is actually a pretty townie interaction.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Full! PMs go out in ~8-16 hours)
« Reply #519 on: July 12, 2018, 10:11:01 am »

Haddock maybe you don’t know the robz case because you are not reading my posts, I’ve made the case twice before.

Once again the robz case:

Vote: mcmc for the uncharacteristically quick jumping down faust's throat.

Vote: robz for being scum check the past few games I have jumped down all inital "blah blah we should talk setup blah blah posts" they are useless

Followed by

lol

scummy verbalization of "hmm this is an interesting wagon not based on much, not sure how I should respond"

Then he goes on to sorta buddy hydrad by saying he is most likely telling he truth (role related read) town reads Galz based on claim. Then recently voted hydrad which is a reversal of his read for hydrad calling Faust scummy but not wanting to vote for him. So yea all that.

From there robz has made another scummy interaction involving Faust

Here is another thing to think about: DatSwan flipped flavor cop. Now if flavor implied alignment that would be a very strong role by itself, and stronger still since he had other stuff added on top of it. Which kind of makes me think that flavor does not indicate alignment in this game.

Counterpoint: I think this is wrong, and also, this thinking is more likely to come from scum.

Actually, I got that wrong. I think faust is mistaken about this, but the sentiment is not more likely to come from scum.

I think Faust statement was likely to come from either town or scum and robz pivoted because he thought it would be better to town read Faust then scum read him.

After that robz agrees with Faust’s reads and sheeps galz vote on gkrieg. As for the gkrieg wagon he went from zero votes, one post by galz and then got 5 votes in thirteen posts. He would have been at l-1 if pps didn’t Unvote in the middle of the sheep chain.

You don’t believe he’s a lover?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #520 on: July 12, 2018, 10:11:05 am »

I still think we should lynch Idplay.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Full! PMs go out in ~8-16 hours)
« Reply #521 on: July 12, 2018, 10:13:53 am »

You don’t believe he’s a lover?

He can still be a lover and scum.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Full! PMs go out in ~8-16 hours)
« Reply #522 on: July 12, 2018, 10:14:56 am »

You don’t believe he’s a lover?

He can still be a lover and scum.

You were the first to unvote him
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Full! PMs go out in ~8-16 hours)
« Reply #523 on: July 12, 2018, 10:15:29 am »

You don’t believe he’s a lover?

He can still be a lover and scum.
In which case we would still be better off lynching another scum.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #524 on: July 12, 2018, 10:16:04 am »

I don’t believe hat robz is a lover. I believe he is counting on this “let’s not out both lovers” idea to not have to confirm his role. It’s a rather safe fake claim.
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