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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #475 on: July 12, 2018, 05:56:19 am »

Request prod on Idplay if people don't want to vote there, maybe I can prod him to death.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #476 on: July 12, 2018, 06:16:42 am »

Vote: IDplay
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #477 on: July 12, 2018, 08:03:54 am »

well, if faust is not happening, I'd vote: Robz. I think faust wants us to derail from himself to lurker. That's easy
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #478 on: July 12, 2018, 08:44:57 am »

I actually think the robz case gets better and better as it is increasingly difficult to get him lynched, even with efhw’s vote on him, and me leading the charge, he hovered at l-2 but other wagons keep popping up.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #479 on: July 12, 2018, 09:01:36 am »

well, if faust is not happening, I'd vote: Robz. I think faust wants us to derail from himself to lurker. That's easy

L-2 now
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #480 on: July 12, 2018, 09:05:10 am »

well, if faust is not happening, I'd vote: Robz. I think faust wants us to derail from himself to lurker. That's easy

This is back to l-2 pps as pps unvoted.

I’m very happy that the three people who started the efhw wagon are all not on this one and robz was the fourth.

Some vote stuff.

Robz voters have been:
D1, mcmc, Faust, pps, gkrieg, efhw, idp
D2, pps, efhw, idp, mcmc, lalight

Robz votes have been:
D1, mcmc, hydrad, efhw
D2, gkrieg


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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #481 on: July 12, 2018, 09:07:54 am »

I actually think the robz case gets better and better as it is increasingly difficult to get him lynched, even with efhw’s vote on him, and me leading the charge, he hovered at l-2 but other wagons keep popping up.
It doesn't seem particularly difficult to get Robz lynched, not more than anyone else anyway.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #482 on: July 12, 2018, 09:09:16 am »

And if it's difficult, then perhaps because noone ever formulated a reason for a Robz vote.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #483 on: July 12, 2018, 09:10:37 am »

well, if faust is not happening, I'd vote: Robz. I think faust wants us to derail from himself to lurker. That's easy

This is back to l-2 pps as pps unvoted.

I’m very happy that the three people who started the efhw wagon are all not on this one and robz was the fourth.
They wouldn't be as they were presumably on the Robz wagon day 1. I don't think there were many scums on EFHW at all, so I do not see how this would make you happy.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #484 on: July 12, 2018, 09:13:23 am »

Post count (including pre cuz on mobile)


100+ - Faust
62 - lalight
45 - galzria
38 - gkrieg
34 - hydrad
32 - pps
27 - mcmc
25 - robz
18 - haddock
12 - idp
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #485 on: July 12, 2018, 09:14:49 am »

well, if faust is not happening, I'd vote: Robz. I think faust wants us to derail from himself to lurker. That's easy

This is back to l-2 pps as pps unvoted.

I’m very happy that the three people who started the efhw wagon are all not on this one and robz was the fourth.
They wouldn't be as they were presumably on the Robz wagon day 1. I don't think there were many scums on EFHW at all, so I do not see how this would make you happy.

I think efhw’s wagon was infact scummy. I think it was an easy wagon for scum to be on and think it’s a rare situation where more scum than normal could have been on it based on the free votes after her self vote.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #486 on: July 12, 2018, 09:16:05 am »

Pretty sure my whole game has been analyzing faust in a negative light. You might not agree but not sure why I would need to repeat it all. Strange there was no need to back my vote on gkrieg with any case and i flippantly even said I didn’t see one despite voting him in the same breath.

Strange to who?  I don't understand the last sentence.

Strange to Galzria who had just needled me for voting faust without reiterating numerous points I had made against faust although I had just sheeped Galzria's vote on gkrieg and simultaneously said I didn't see a case. So, the double standard there was the strange bit.

Feeling pretty towny on gkrieg about now.

I feel good about lynching Robz or faust today.
So what about gkrieg's posts was it that made you change your mind?

My mind wasn’t somehow changed. Before I steeped a vote and said there was no case. It was as good as any because lurker gkrieg is null to scum. He made good on his promise to contribute once he got the time. The amount of effort is towny enough for today.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #487 on: July 12, 2018, 09:17:28 am »

Vote: Robz

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #488 on: July 12, 2018, 09:20:47 am »

Faust voters have been small for how strongly they have pushed it which is interesting.

D1: gkrieg, Galz, lalight
D2: lalight, pps, Galz

So leaning scummier on Faust than before. Can’t track Faust. It’s on mobile sadly.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #489 on: July 12, 2018, 09:21:33 am »

Faust voters have been small for how strongly they have pushed it which is interesting.

D1: gkrieg, Galz, lalight
D2: lalight, pps, Galz

So leaning scummier on Faust than before. Can’t track Faust. It’s votes on mobile sadly.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #490 on: July 12, 2018, 09:27:41 am »

Faust voters have been small for how strongly they have pushed it which is interesting.

D1: gkrieg, Galz, lalight
D2: lalight, pps, Galz

So leaning scummier on Faust than before. Can’t track Faust. It’s on mobile sadly.

yeah, I mean there were lots of reasons and people just ignored it altogether, all of them, it's just us three
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #491 on: July 12, 2018, 09:28:48 am »

thing about Robz is also that I know he's vla, but he doesn't respond to questions and Stop. Halt. Desist. went completely unexplained. Just like he said don't lynch me and never provided reasons
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #492 on: July 12, 2018, 09:44:07 am »

Why is faust suddenly defending gkrieg?
I don't like the ease with which the wagon has sprung up - after I said I found him scummy and without much of a case at all - while my vote on Idplay that is just as good was ignored. And I'm still wary of Galzria.

I'm not ok with the big wagons forming yet, there's still more to discuss.  See below:
I don't know how big wagons are preventing us from discussing stuff. I'd rather have more happen than to wait for you to finish your 1-post-a-day discussion of things until we're out of time.

I want faust to say what he did last night, because as it stands my role-information from last night is pointing in the direction of scum!faust.
Well okay then. I took no action.
This last changes things.
Mmk.

I still find gkrieg scummy.

What the hell is the case on Robz?

For what do you find me scummy?
D1 stuff.
Horrible early vote on faust for no good reason, throwing shade at me for no good reason, and a weird push on Hydrad who was looking pretty towny (or at worst was playing like classic!Hydrad, which is null at worst).

This
Here, sorry.

I think faust's reads/cases are inaccurate, but also i think he is town.

Votes on Efhw don't seem great to me, she seems towny as does galz.

Tbh i still like my lalight vote.

Could always vote pps because always.

Does anyone else agree that faust seems towny and that bad votes against him are bad? Don't like gkrieg's vote there much.

Wow, your reads are the exact opposite of mine.  Also, FOS for the last question you asked.  Gauging people's reactions in that manner is scummy.
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Datswan. You are voting me for the comment about Haddock. I’m saying there that it is scummy for him to say “what do other people think about X” when it is referencing someone being scummy. It is like Instead of giving a case on someone, you are trying to get someone else to make a case. It is also something that is very easy to waffle on later and say that no one else saw them as scummy so I don’t either. Scum test out the water like that more than town does.
are both bad reasons to throw shade at me and ignore the fact that I had made my position 100% clear before gauging other people's reactions, which entirely nullifies your point.



Can someone, for god's sake, please present a case against Robz?  I don't understand how he is at L-1.

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thing about Robz is also that I know he's vla, but he doesn't respond to questions and Stop. Halt. Desist. went completely unexplained. Just like he said don't lynch me and never provided reasons
does not count, it is only confirmation bias.  Of course a player is going to be flustered and annoyed when there's a massive wagon against them for no stated reason.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #493 on: July 12, 2018, 09:45:53 am »

Why is faust suddenly defending gkrieg?
I don't like the ease with which the wagon has sprung up - after I said I found him scummy and without much of a case at all - while my vote on Idplay that is just as good was ignored. And I'm still wary of Galzria.

I'm not ok with the big wagons forming yet, there's still more to discuss.  See below:
I don't know how big wagons are preventing us from discussing stuff. I'd rather have more happen than to wait for you to finish your 1-post-a-day discussion of things until we're out of time.

I want faust to say what he did last night, because as it stands my role-information from last night is pointing in the direction of scum!faust.
Well okay then. I took no action.
This last changes things.
Mmk.

I still find gkrieg scummy.

What the hell is the case on Robz?

For what do you find me scummy?
D1 stuff.
Horrible early vote on faust for no good reason, throwing shade at me for no good reason, and a weird push on Hydrad who was looking pretty towny (or at worst was playing like classic!Hydrad, which is null at worst).

This
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I think faust's reads/cases are inaccurate, but also i think he is town.

Votes on Efhw don't seem great to me, she seems towny as does galz.

Tbh i still like my lalight vote.

Could always vote pps because always.

Does anyone else agree that faust seems towny and that bad votes against him are bad? Don't like gkrieg's vote there much.

Wow, your reads are the exact opposite of mine.  Also, FOS for the last question you asked.  Gauging people's reactions in that manner is scummy.
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Datswan. You are voting me for the comment about Haddock. I’m saying there that it is scummy for him to say “what do other people think about X” when it is referencing someone being scummy. It is like Instead of giving a case on someone, you are trying to get someone else to make a case. It is also something that is very easy to waffle on later and say that no one else saw them as scummy so I don’t either. Scum test out the water like that more than town does.
are both bad reasons to throw shade at me and ignore the fact that I had made my position 100% clear before gauging other people's reactions, which entirely nullifies your point.



Can someone, for god's sake, please present a case against Robz?  I don't understand how he is at L-1.

This
thing about Robz is also that I know he's vla, but he doesn't respond to questions and Stop. Halt. Desist. went completely unexplained. Just like he said don't lynch me and never provided reasons
does not count, it is only confirmation bias.  Of course a player is going to be flustered and annoyed when there's a massive wagon against them for no stated reason.

He is not flustered and annoyed, he tells things with no information. And he never answered for my question about how he reads faust. His posts are meaningless, though there is a lot he could react to
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #494 on: July 12, 2018, 09:47:18 am »

I keep forgetting that mcmc is in this game.  And it's not because he hasn't posted enough - I'm aware that I can't talk on that front.  But I cant remember anything massively meaningful/memorable that he's done.  Solid actilurking.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #495 on: July 12, 2018, 09:49:33 am »

PPE Lalight: Well that's closer to a case than anything I've seen, but it's hardly a great one.   Not posting much information is not a scum trait imo, it's pretty null.  Plenty of people are struggling to get traction on this game.

I was talking about "Stop. Halt. Desist" specifically, which you were presenting as a reason to vote him, which it really isn't.  That reaction is just as likely to come from town as scum.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #496 on: July 12, 2018, 09:50:40 am »

I keep forgetting that mcmc is in this game.  And it's not because he hasn't posted enough - I'm aware that I can't talk on that front.  But I cant remember anything massively meaningful/memorable that he's done.  Solid actilurking.

I keep forgetting half of the people here for some reason. The game is not really active. Also I just realized, Awaclus isn't here!
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #497 on: July 12, 2018, 09:51:46 am »

PPE Lalight: Well that's closer to a case than anything I've seen, but it's hardly a great one.   Not posting much information is not a scum trait imo, it's pretty null.  Plenty of people are struggling to get traction on this game.

I was talking about "Stop. Halt. Desist" specifically, which you were presenting as a reason to vote him, which it really isn't.  That reaction is just as likely to come from town as scum.

Well, yeah, but if you have a direct question, why don't you answer it? It's a great way to participate in the game when you're struggling.

I mean, well, I am not HIGHLY scum-reading Robz, but my scumread's not going to happen and I want something to happen. Robz isn't on townie side, so why not
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #498 on: July 12, 2018, 09:52:41 am »

i have no idea how faust got to the readlist only with one player on "null", I'd have most here on "null" if I made one, that's why I am not doing one
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #499 on: July 12, 2018, 09:53:51 am »

PPE Lalight: Well that's closer to a case than anything I've seen, but it's hardly a great one.   Not posting much information is not a scum trait imo, it's pretty null.  Plenty of people are struggling to get traction on this game.

I was talking about "Stop. Halt. Desist" specifically, which you were presenting as a reason to vote him, which it really isn't.  That reaction is just as likely to come from town as scum.

Well, yeah, but if you have a direct question, why don't you answer it? It's a great way to participate in the game when you're struggling.

I mean, well, I am not HIGHLY scum-reading Robz, but my scumread's not going to happen and I want something to happen. Robz isn't on townie side, so why not
That's reasonable thought I still think Robz is on the towny side of null.  Who has asked him any direct questions?

Also who is your scumread?
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87
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