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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #375 on: July 10, 2018, 12:53:14 am »

I don't see what that kind of claim would accomplish.

That's because you're scum
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #376 on: July 10, 2018, 01:11:43 am »

I had a dream in which Haddock and LaLight were scum. Also, I died and somehow forgot about it. Our flavors were based on some plants that grew around the house.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #377 on: July 10, 2018, 03:58:01 am »

From what I read on Samurai Jack wikia, my character is explicitly good-aligned. I am not against a race claiming because we can have a race cop along with flavor one and we don't lose anything, so why not
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #378 on: July 10, 2018, 03:58:44 am »

While I'm claiming stuff, I'll say there's not one hint in my role pm or elsewhere about alignment switching. I suspected that it was a scum power to wield upon town, actually.

I don't know anything about it as well
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #379 on: July 10, 2018, 04:01:31 am »

There is a role (though I think it is more bastard?...) of Cult Leader that turns people on their side. maybe it's too straightforward. Also I just read in OP that scum also can be made town, but it seems weird as they just will say who their partners are
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #380 on: July 10, 2018, 04:07:56 am »

There is a role (though I think it is more bastard?...) of Cult Leader that turns people on their side. maybe it's too straightforward. Also I just read in OP that scum also can be made town, but it seems weird as they just will say who their partners are

iguana did say there might be a punishment for the person who changes someones alignment. Dunno what it could be though.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #381 on: July 10, 2018, 04:10:32 am »

There is a role (though I think it is more bastard?...) of Cult Leader that turns people on their side. maybe it's too straightforward. Also I just read in OP that scum also can be made town, but it seems weird as they just will say who their partners are

iguana did say there might be a punishment for the person who changes someones alignment. Dunno what it could be though.

Where did he say that?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #382 on: July 10, 2018, 04:10:58 am »

ah, unknown consequences
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #383 on: July 10, 2018, 04:11:23 am »

what's the case on Robz?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #384 on: July 10, 2018, 08:16:51 am »

I think I am against race claiming but I’m not sure.

I can see it having a direct impact on item transfer and potentially helping scum know who to target for kill/alignment swap.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #385 on: July 10, 2018, 08:27:04 am »

Haddock can you explain what you hope to get out of people claiming night actions or are you just saying that because it sounds helpful. Like Faust claimed some sort of protection but we had one night kill go through and no expectation of a second so why it help for him to claim anything? Hydrad said he could be framed and Galz said he was samurai jack. So what claims are you looking for?
Do I need to explain myself?  Would prefer to minimise explanation frankly.  It has to do with my role, obviously.
Interesting you want others to claim there night actions because it has something to do with your role. Being non-specific as to why makes sense but my guess would be that you should be more specific as to what you want claimed. You didn’t really answer my question. Like I said Faust claimed protection, hydrad claimed ability to be framed, Galz claimed samurai jack, that’s it. So the only night action to be expected is Faust’s protection and since we didn’t get a blocked kill I don’t see any use in him claiming and explaining to scum how his protection works.


More to the point, why is this a question?  Anyone who has already claimed a role should be claiming what they did last night - because why wouldn't you?   That should be default behaviour unless there is some reason not to claim it.
Again, see my above point you keep saying anyone who claimed a role should claim but literally the only role that was claimed with an action was Faust and I see good reason not to claim anything and no reason his claim would help.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #386 on: July 10, 2018, 08:32:44 am »

Figuring out who is scum should be possible.

Townie people:
Hydrad, McMcsalot,

Town-ish people:
Robz888, Galzria, Haddock

Nulls:
Lalight

Which leaves the scums:
Pingpongsam, IDontPlayThisGame, gkrieg13

Well actually I don't have much of a read on any of these. But given that most my reads are townreads, let's Vote: Idplay
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #387 on: July 10, 2018, 08:34:12 am »

Figuring out who is scum should be possible.

Townie people:
Hydrad, McMcsalot,

Town-ish people:
Robz888, Galzria, Haddock

Nulls:
Lalight

Which leaves the scums:
Pingpongsam, IDontPlayThisGame, gkrieg13

Well actually I don't have much of a read on any of these. But given that most my reads are townreads, let's Vote: Idplay

What happened you don think Galz is scum any more after you were thinking that?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #388 on: July 10, 2018, 08:36:07 am »

why is Haddock town-ish? I think he's null at best
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #389 on: July 10, 2018, 08:36:12 am »

Relevant Idplay posts:

I think Samurai Jack is more likely to be town, though could possibly be scum. I think Galz's claim is more on the townie side. Not sure why everyone else is claiming willy nilly.

I just asked for volunteers. No one seems to have taken me up on it and it's very disappointing.
I don't like jokey starts.

Vote: Hydrad

You think faust is scummy, but don't want to vote for him?

vote: Hydrad

I don't think his response to this is enough to convince me not to vote for him.
Bad vote.

I'm not sure what to make of all of this. No strong reads to speak of.

I agree with the self-voting on the role. I'm not sure how I would have played it myself though.

I can get on the Robz train. vote: Robz
More bad voting.

And that's it. Okay, I am fine with this vote.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #390 on: July 10, 2018, 08:37:16 am »

What happened you don think Galz is scum any more after you were thinking that?
I changed my mind. Basically I don't think scum!Galzria would tunnel me.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #391 on: July 10, 2018, 08:38:07 am »

why is Haddock town-ish? I think he's null at best
His alluding to some role and wanting people to claim is not something that scum usually does. Plus I vaguely remember townreading him D1, but not sure why.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #392 on: July 10, 2018, 08:46:55 am »

Relevant Idplay posts:

I think Samurai Jack is more likely to be town, though could possibly be scum. I think Galz's claim is more on the townie side. Not sure why everyone else is claiming willy nilly.

I just asked for volunteers. No one seems to have taken me up on it and it's very disappointing.
I don't like jokey starts.

Vote: Hydrad

You think faust is scummy, but don't want to vote for him?

vote: Hydrad

I don't think his response to this is enough to convince me not to vote for him.
Bad vote.

I'm not sure what to make of all of this. No strong reads to speak of.

I agree with the self-voting on the role. I'm not sure how I would have played it myself though.

I can get on the Robz train. vote: Robz
More bad voting.

And that's it. Okay, I am fine with this vote.

So you're voting me for playing poorly?

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #393 on: July 10, 2018, 09:38:06 am »

You left yourself off your reads list so big scum points for you.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #394 on: July 10, 2018, 09:39:10 am »

Relevant Idplay posts:

I think Samurai Jack is more likely to be town, though could possibly be scum. I think Galz's claim is more on the townie side. Not sure why everyone else is claiming willy nilly.

I just asked for volunteers. No one seems to have taken me up on it and it's very disappointing.
I don't like jokey starts.

Vote: Hydrad

You think faust is scummy, but don't want to vote for him?


To be fair, that’s a decent strategy all around. I’ve gotten lynched for poor play plenty of times.
vote: Hydrad

I don't think his response to this is enough to convince me not to vote for him.
Bad vote.

I'm not sure what to make of all of this. No strong reads to speak of.

I agree with the self-voting on the role. I'm not sure how I would have played it myself though.

I can get on the Robz train. vote: Robz
More bad voting.

And that's it. Okay, I am fine with this vote.

So you're voting me for playing poorly?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #395 on: July 10, 2018, 09:42:02 am »

Reads lists are generally scum tools. They are only useful to town for organizing end of day pool resolution and end of game Lylo resolution. The rest of the time they are invitations for town to windsock their intuitions to scum and scum methods for rationalizing their votes. Posting them like faust just did is way more scummy than not.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #396 on: July 10, 2018, 10:23:31 am »

Figuring out who is scum should be possible.

Townie people:
Hydrad, McMcsalot,

Town-ish people:
Robz888, Galzria, Haddock

Nulls:
Lalight

Which leaves the scums:
Pingpongsam, IDontPlayThisGame, gkrieg13

Well actually I don't have much of a read on any of these. But given that most my reads are townreads, let's Vote: Idplay

I agree with these reads a lot, actually.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #397 on: July 10, 2018, 10:40:31 am »

Will get to this more tomorrow
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #398 on: July 10, 2018, 10:45:33 am »

Figuring out who is scum should be possible.

Townie people:
Hydrad, McMcsalot,

Town-ish people:
Robz888, Galzria, Haddock

Nulls:
Lalight

Which leaves the scums:
Pingpongsam, IDontPlayThisGame, gkrieg13

Well actually I don't have much of a read on any of these. But given that most my reads are townreads, let's Vote: Idplay

I agree with these reads a lot, actually.

Where is faust in your reads?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day two!)
« Reply #399 on: July 10, 2018, 10:51:09 am »

can we prod EFHW if she's not voting?
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