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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #125 on: July 02, 2018, 07:54:34 am »

Oh and vote: LaLight
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Full! PMs go out in ~8-16 hours)
« Reply #126 on: July 02, 2018, 08:30:24 am »

Vote count 1.2

McMcsalot (1): Robz888
Robz888 (3): McMcsalot, pingpongsam, gkrieg13
Hydrad (1): Lalight
Lalight (2): Haddock, faust
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #127 on: July 02, 2018, 11:22:19 am »

I think it's premature to send items to Galz just because he's claimed SJ. If iguana wanted SJ to be an IC, I expect he'd have included "SJ, the town named [whatever]" like with Will Shef in Okkervil River Mafia.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #128 on: July 02, 2018, 11:31:43 am »

I think it's premature to send items to Galz just because he's claimed SJ. If iguana wanted SJ to be an IC, I expect he'd have included "SJ, the town named [whatever]" like with Will Shef in Okkervil River Mafia.

I have a theory as to why he didn't do exactly that, which I'll post at the end of D1.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #129 on: July 02, 2018, 11:36:35 am »

I think it's premature to send items to Galz just because he's claimed SJ. If iguana wanted SJ to be an IC, I expect he'd have included "SJ, the town named [whatever]" like with Will Shef in Okkervil River Mafia.

I have a theory as to why he didn't do exactly that, which I'll post at the end of D1.

I look forward to hearing it.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #130 on: July 02, 2018, 12:13:49 pm »

But I also can't see town!faust claiming a lot of stuff without thinking it through, usually he's very careful doing that.
Why do you assume that I haven't thought it through?

It was right after the beginning of the day and seemed very rushed. I would wait for reactions to the suggestion and people telling if they think it’s a good idea and then claim. What if anyone has an info that there’s only one protective role in a game?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #131 on: July 02, 2018, 12:20:57 pm »

I think revealing my item/role would be detrimental so I'm not going to do it. If someone think they have a way to protect items or protect people that would be a helpful claim. otherwise I'm not too sure "coordinating" is going to be good based on scum ability to pick off users.
I don't know man, outing protective roles sound pretty terrible to me.

I guess that is true but for later days I think an outed protector would be useful to give a then outed jack a night of coordinated stuff.
If you say so. I have the ability to protect people.

You say it sounds terrible and without knowing if there is a totular character, mcmc’s alignment you just claim it like that
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #132 on: July 02, 2018, 12:21:41 pm »

Literally 3,5 minutes
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #133 on: July 02, 2018, 12:23:59 pm »

Problem is I can’t see either town!faust or scum!faust doing such a thing...
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #134 on: July 02, 2018, 12:26:17 pm »

Therefore i think he has some ability that activates when he’s lynched or he’s jester. If he’s town with ability, he’d just say it so he’s probably scum. Or I massively overthink it
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #135 on: July 02, 2018, 12:55:06 pm »

Therefore i think he has some ability that activates when he’s lynched or he’s jester. If he’s town with ability, he’d just say it so he’s probably scum. Or I massively overthink it

I mean obviously he isn't a jester, and I think we are safe to assume that lynches are normal...
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #136 on: July 02, 2018, 01:36:37 pm »

I don't think it is helpful to discuss the specific reasonings for my claim. At least I will abstain from any such discussion going forward.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #137 on: July 02, 2018, 01:37:39 pm »

I think it's premature to send items to Galz just because he's claimed SJ. If iguana wanted SJ to be an IC, I expect he'd have included "SJ, the town named [whatever]" like with Will Shef in Okkervil River Mafia.

I have a theory as to why he didn't do exactly that, which I'll post at the end of D1.
I fail to see a reason why it would be better to delay talking about that.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #138 on: July 02, 2018, 04:10:49 pm »

I think it's premature to send items to Galz just because he's claimed SJ. If iguana wanted SJ to be an IC, I expect he'd have included "SJ, the town named [whatever]" like with Will Shef in Okkervil River Mafia.

I have a theory as to why he didn't do exactly that, which I'll post at the end of D1.
I fail to see a reason why it would be better to delay talking about that.

And yet simply because you fail to see it does not mean that it does not exist.
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SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #139 on: July 02, 2018, 06:15:15 pm »

I believe Galz.

at least for now. I might revisit it other days but at the moment I would say I'm not willing to vote him or anything.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #140 on: July 02, 2018, 08:43:27 pm »

I believe Galz.

at least for now. I might revisit it other days but at the moment I would say I'm not willing to vote him or anything.

Believe that he's SJ or town?

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #141 on: July 02, 2018, 09:46:58 pm »

I believe Galz.

at least for now. I might revisit it other days but at the moment I would say I'm not willing to vote him or anything.

Believe that he's SJ or town?

Both
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #142 on: July 03, 2018, 01:28:42 am »

Wow this game goes really slow
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #143 on: July 03, 2018, 01:49:34 am »

Indeed.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #144 on: July 03, 2018, 02:59:25 am »

lol LL fades the prod for mentioning that the game is slow? :P

I am here no need to prod.

As mentioned I find all the claiming very strange with no order.
I would imagine it is because at least some of the claimers have knowledge that they can *do something fancy* or it is because they are skum.

I also think that the claimers are good players so they assumed people would work their way to "strong ass Town PR vs Skum" so I am not on page with removing them from the lynch pool at this point.

Also I see no reason why any thoughts that will be revealed at the end of D1 would be better revealed at that time as opposed to now when we can talk about it. If it was an arbitrary time figure, or like later in the game where one specific lynch could reveal a ton of info, then yeah. But it is just gonna end up being an NAI comment about "reason x is reason x, and I didn't want to say it earlier because of reason y". Then everyone is gonna be like "oh you are just skum bc you used the day to gain info and reads before you gave your reason"

Same old, same old. Really nothing to go on off of the already stated.

Galz is doing the Awaclus thing so he is probably town.
If Faust has "a protective role" and wakes up then he is probably skum.
I am sleepy, but who ever claimed vig is probably skum.
Framed claim is too stupid to come from skum.


and then of course... none of this matter because whoever is skum today may be town tomorrow and vice versa.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #145 on: July 03, 2018, 03:05:29 am »

lol LL fades the prod for mentioning that the game is slow? :P

I am here no need to prod.

As mentioned I find all the claiming very strange with no order.
I would imagine it is because at least some of the claimers have knowledge that they can *do something fancy* or it is because they are skum.

I also think that the claimers are good players so they assumed people would work their way to "strong ass Town PR vs Skum" so I am not on page with removing them from the lynch pool at this point.

Also I see no reason why any thoughts that will be revealed at the end of D1 would be better revealed at that time as opposed to now when we can talk about it. If it was an arbitrary time figure, or like later in the game where one specific lynch could reveal a ton of info, then yeah. But it is just gonna end up being an NAI comment about "reason x is reason x, and I didn't want to say it earlier because of reason y". Then everyone is gonna be like "oh you are just skum bc you used the day to gain info and reads before you gave your reason"

Same old, same old. Really nothing to go on off of the already stated.

Galz is doing the Awaclus thing so he is probably town.
If Faust has "a protective role" and wakes up then he is probably skum.
I am sleepy, but who ever claimed vig is probably skum.
Framed claim is too stupid to come from skum.


and then of course... none of this matter because whoever is skum today may be town tomorrow and vice versa.

No, i posted quite a lot yesterday
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #146 on: July 03, 2018, 03:18:16 am »

I am here no need to prod.
If you do not post, then there is a need to prod.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #147 on: July 03, 2018, 06:59:14 am »

I'm here. 
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #148 on: July 03, 2018, 07:04:53 am »

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day one!)
« Reply #149 on: July 03, 2018, 07:11:03 am »

Here's even a case on EFHW, maybe that will get you started.

She immediately jumps to the conclusion that Galzria is town, in the absence of much info. Now this is something I often see from scum if town claims something. They don't want to argue against it for fear of looking scummy doing so. Of course it also makes perfect sense if EFHW and Galzria are both scum.

The only other thing resembling a read that she posted is this:
Scum!faust could have claimed protective role to encourage Samurai Jack to claim. It's pretty safe to do that since any other protective roles are unlikely to counter him.

If Galz is lying, the real SJ should definitely speak up because people are about to send items to Galz.
Which is hedgy and doesn't actually state what she thinks about me. It seems that she finds me scummy, but there is no vote or anything. Exactly the kind of thing scum likes to post.
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