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Vote count 1.1

McMcsalot (1): Robz888
Robz888 (4): McMcsalot, faust, pingpongsam, gkrieg13
pingpongsam (1): Haddock
Hydrad (1): Lalight

not voting (5): Hydrad, DatSwan,  IDontPlayThisGame, EFHW, Galzria

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends Saturday, July 07, 2018, 10:30:00 am

[mcmcsalot]

Glaz name the itms you are aware of. Us townies might feel better if you name stuff we have

[Galzria]

Glaz name the itms you are aware of. Us townies might feel better if you name stuff we have

No. vote: mcmc for item fishing.

[Swowl]

Galz - do you only know of items that exist AND you can use?

[Galzria]

Galz - do you only know of items that exist AND you can use?

Yes.

[EFHW]

Glaz name the itms you are aware of. Us townies might feel better if you name stuff we have

Lack of a counter claim can make us feel better.

[Swowl]

Galz - do you only know of items that exist AND you can use?

Yes.

How many items are you aware of that exist in the game?

[Galzria]

Galz - do you only know of items that exist AND you can use?

Yes.

How many items are you aware of that exist in the game?

More than 1, less than 100.

[Hydrad]

Galz - do you only know of items that exist AND you can use?

Yes.

How many items are you aware of that exist in the game?

More than 1, less than 100.

ahha. so we know less then 100 items help you. very useful info. hopefully scum can't use that to their advantage.

[faust]

Vote: Galzria this is all a bit too convenient for my taste.

[faust]

And follow-up question: If there was an item in the game that would help you, would the person holding it know that it helps you?

[Swowl]

Somehow being framed doesn’t sound like something in a game with changing alignments for some readon

elaborate?

[Swowl]

also - probably late to the party on this one but... has anyone else noticed that there are like way more people than normal that seem extremely willing to out their "great PRs"?
Galz is Ninja Jesus or whatever
Faust can proc people
MCMC thinks it would be "detrimental" to reveal his role.
IDP softed at Vig


....what are we making of that? (directed at *not* Galz/Faust/MC/IDP)

[Hydrad]

also - probably late to the party on this one but... has anyone else noticed that there are like way more people than normal that seem extremely willing to out their "great PRs"?
Galz is Ninja Jesus or whatever
Faust can proc people
MCMC thinks it would be "detrimental" to reveal his role.
IDP softed at Vig


....what are we making of that? (directed at *not* Galz/Faust/MC/IDP)

I think its interesting. I'm usually for claiming, but i guess i've also slightly claimed already too so don't know if my opinion will be valued.

[Haddock]

FOS: Haddock for deflecting from his partner

I missed you too. 

Hey to everyone, vote: Hydrad

This seems pretty lazy and not massively well thought through.
vote: Lalight

quick read list.

1=scum 10 = town

1. Faust (5) pretty neutral not much to go on.
2. Pingpongsam (5) pretty neutral not much to go on.
3. Hydrad (10) IC
4. DatSwan (5) pretty neutral not much to go on.
5. McMcsalot (5) pretty neutral not much to go on.
6. IDontPlayThisGame (5) pretty neutral not much to go on.
7. Lalight (5) pretty neutral not much to go on.
8. EFHW (5) pretty neutral not much to go on.
9. Gkrieg13 (5) pretty neutral not much to go on.
10. Galzria (5) pretty neutral not much to go on.
11. Haddock (5) pretty neutral not much to go on.
12. Robz888 (5) pretty neutral not much to go on.

This is useless but in a  very Hydrad way.  Leaning town there because of stuff like this as well as parly from a claim that I can't really see coming from scum!Hydrad.

also - probably late to the party on this one but... has anyone else noticed that there are like way more people than normal that seem extremely willing to out their "great PRs"?
Galz is Ninja Jesus or whatever
Faust can proc people
MCMC thinks it would be "detrimental" to reveal his role.
IDP softed at Vig


....what are we making of that? (directed at *not* Galz/Faust/MC/IDP)

Fact.
No idea what it means though. Probably feel it makes at least (probably exactly) one of the early-claimers scum?

[EFHW]

Scum!faust could have claimed protective role to encourage Samurai Jack to claim. It's pretty safe to do that since any other protective roles are unlikely to counter him.

If Galz is lying, the real SJ should definitely speak up because people are about to send items to Galz.

[faust]

Scum!faust could have claimed protective role to encourage Samurai Jack to claim. It's pretty safe to do that since any other protective roles are unlikely to counter him.

If Galz is lying, the real SJ should definitely speak up because people are about to send items to Galz.

Why do you assume that there is a town player with the flavor of Samurai Jack?

Also that is the most terrible plan ever.

[EFHW]

Scum!faust could have claimed protective role to encourage Samurai Jack to claim. It's pretty safe to do that since any other protective roles are unlikely to counter him.

If Galz is lying, the real SJ should definitely speak up because people are about to send items to Galz.

Why do you assume that there is a town player with the flavor of Samurai Jack?

Also that is the most terrible plan ever.

Depends on what scum have been told.

[Galzria]

Scum!faust could have claimed protective role to encourage Samurai Jack to claim. It's pretty safe to do that since any other protective roles are unlikely to counter him.

If Galz is lying, the real SJ should definitely speak up because people are about to send items to Galz.

Why do you assume that there is a town player with the flavor of Samurai Jack?

Also that is the most terrible plan ever.

vote: faust


First: Town!Faust wouldn't out himself as a protective role. That's all sorts of levels of dumb. And he's calling other people's plans terrible? Lol

Second: His push against me, an un-counterclaimed SJ, based on the argument that "Well, there might not be a Samurai Jack" in the game (or that such a character might not be town - even more ridiculous), is simply hilarious. Even in a world where he was correct (which let's be honest, would never exist here) that the character didn't exist, I would need to be scum that was taking a massive, massive risk by claiming it without that knowledge, when every reasonable person would assume that the character is, in fact, in the game.

The last time I saw Faust making hilariously flawed arguments was when he was scum in Lost with Datswan, Space and Iguana. As town he's significantly more measured and thought out - further, he presses with questions over and over. When he's scum, he posts more opinions and acts like he knows more than he should (not intentionally, it's just more of a tell).

So, yeah. Scum!Faust here.

[faust]

The last time I saw Faust Galzria making hilariously flawed arguments was when he was scum

It's ridiculous to assume alignment based on flavor. Everyone who has ever played a game here knows this. Everyone who has any experience in setup design knows that you cannot just make all the obvious good people townies because naturally that breaks the game.

[faust]

Also, good job ignoring all my questions that might get you into trouble.

[faust]

Scum!faust could have claimed protective role to encourage Samurai Jack to claim. It's pretty safe to do that since any other protective roles are unlikely to counter him.

If Galz is lying, the real SJ should definitely speak up because people are about to send items to Galz.

Why do you assume that there is a town player with the flavor of Samurai Jack?

Also that is the most terrible plan ever.

[...]
And he's calling other people's plans terrible?
[...]

And I suggest proper reading before jumping to conclusions. I did not call anyone's plan terrible here, I merely pointed out that the plan EFHW suggested scum!faust might have had was terrible.

[Galzria]

And follow-up question: If there was an item in the game that would help you, would the person holding it know that it helps you?

This was, to my knowledge, the only question you asked that I missed - which:

Also, good job ignoring all my questions that might get you into trouble.

Hilariously is NOT.

To answer though: Yes, probably.

[faust]

I'll bite, because {reasons}:

I'm the Titular Character, and there are items in the game that I'm aware exist, do not possess, but can use.

So given the capitalization, we are meant to assume that that is you actual flavor name rather than Samurai Jack?

(admittedly the original post contains a quoting messup)

[Galzria]

Scum!faust could have claimed protective role to encourage Samurai Jack to claim. It's pretty safe to do that since any other protective roles are unlikely to counter him.

If Galz is lying, the real SJ should definitely speak up because people are about to send items to Galz.

Why do you assume that there is a town player with the flavor of Samurai Jack?

Also that is the most terrible plan ever.

[...]
And he's calling other people's plans terrible?
[...]

And I suggest proper reading before jumping to conclusions. I did not call anyone's plan terrible here, I merely pointed out that the plan EFHW suggested scum!faust might have had was terrible.

You are correct that I misread the quote to which you responded, and thus misinterpreted what you were calling terrible.

And yet, what you've called "a terrible plan" is significantly worse when done as town, whereas it has few drawbacks as scum.