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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1150 on: June 23, 2018, 10:17:52 pm »

Awaclus, why did you put IDPTG first and why did you put DatSwan last in the claiming order?
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1151 on: June 23, 2018, 10:18:43 pm »

If Idplay is town, then DatSwan should hold his shot and Hydrad should prolly lightning rod.

If idplay is scum, Datswan should shoot and no Hydralightning.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1152 on: June 23, 2018, 10:24:08 pm »

If Idplay is town, then DatSwan should hold his shot and Hydrad should prolly lightning rod.

If idplay is scum, Datswan should shoot and no Hydralightning.

I agree i should not shoot but i think there is a 0% chance that Hydrad is skum at this point so the second part is ok but i hate it
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1153 on: June 23, 2018, 10:25:36 pm »

If Idplay is town, then DatSwan should hold his shot and Hydrad should prolly lightning rod.

If idplay is scum, Datswan should shoot and no Hydralightning.

I agree i should not shoot but i think there is a 0% chance that Hydrad is skum at this point so the second part is ok but i hate it

Its designed to protect us against a potential scum!you, so I get that you hate it as either alignment
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1154 on: June 23, 2018, 10:28:50 pm »

If Idplay is town, then DatSwan should hold his shot and Hydrad should prolly lightning rod.

If idplay is scum, Datswan should shoot and no Hydralightning.

I agree i should not shoot but i think there is a 0% chance that Hydrad is skum at this point so the second part is ok but i hate it

Its designed to protect us against a potential scum!you, so I get that you hate it as either alignment

Not like you bro - sloppy. No one is ever skum in my position and also a Vig.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1155 on: June 23, 2018, 10:29:53 pm »

It also has the benefit of forcing the scum who does the kill to take his used up role instead of like your PR, so it protects us against town!you getting killed too.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1156 on: June 23, 2018, 10:34:36 pm »

If town me doesn’t shoot bc idp flips town ... they are still gonna shoot me you get that right?
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1157 on: June 23, 2018, 10:36:07 pm »

I do find it likely that Jim would use his bulletproof N1 on Galzria. If he town read Galz, then Galz is an obvious choice as a popular night kill.

Oh wait, town!Galz couldn't have been NK'd by Eevee because he would have detected Eevee targeting him that night. So EFHW really really should be town.

Ascetic blocks Cops, does it not? I wouldn't be surprised if it also blocks Reflexive Cops (faust hasn't answered me).
I doubt it, but what if it did?

It means that Galz may have been the N2 NK target and still be telling the truth about his results.
Did you get an answer to this?
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1158 on: June 23, 2018, 10:37:04 pm »

If town me doesn’t shoot bc idp flips town ... they are still gonna shoot me you get that right?

See above. we can protect you with hydralightning. It should be above anything they can do action resolution wise
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1159 on: June 23, 2018, 10:46:56 pm »

I do find it likely that Jim would use his bulletproof N1 on Galzria. If he town read Galz, then Galz is an obvious choice as a popular night kill.

Oh wait, town!Galz couldn't have been NK'd by Eevee because he would have detected Eevee targeting him that night. So EFHW really really should be town.

Ascetic blocks Cops, does it not? I wouldn't be surprised if it also blocks Reflexive Cops (faust hasn't answered me).
I doubt it, but what if it did?

It means that Galz may have been the N2 NK target and still be telling the truth about his results.
Did you get an answer to this?

Faust said he won't answer.

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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1160 on: June 23, 2018, 10:47:48 pm »

If Idplay is town, then DatSwan should hold his shot and Hydrad should prolly lightning rod.

If idplay is scum, Datswan should shoot and no Hydralightning.

I agree i should not shoot but i think there is a 0% chance that Hydrad is skum at this point so the second part is ok but i hate it

Its designed to protect us against a potential scum!you, so I get that you hate it as either alignment

Not like you bro - sloppy. No one is ever skum in my position and also a Vig.
Do you mean scum claiming last would never fakeclaim vig? Why not?
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1161 on: June 23, 2018, 10:51:28 pm »

If Idplay is town, then DatSwan should hold his shot and Hydrad should prolly lightning rod.

If idplay is scum, Datswan should shoot and no Hydralightning.

I agree i should not shoot but i think there is a 0% chance that Hydrad is skum at this point so the second part is ok but i hate it

Its designed to protect us against a potential scum!you, so I get that you hate it as either alignment

Not like you bro - sloppy. No one is ever skum in my position and also a Vig.
Do you mean scum claiming last would never fakeclaim vig? Why not?

So i feel like the answers are obvious but before i answer i want to clarify - are you disagreeing with me?
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1162 on: June 23, 2018, 10:52:37 pm »

Why is it either DatSwan or Galzria and not both?
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1163 on: June 23, 2018, 10:53:38 pm »

If town me doesn’t shoot bc idp flips town ... they are still gonna shoot me you get that right?

See above. we can protect you with hydralightning. It should be above anything they can do action resolution wise

Sorry unfamiliar with hydralighnting - got it now
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1164 on: June 23, 2018, 10:54:35 pm »

Why is it either DatSwan or Galzria and not both?

People have said it could be both. Like a lot actually.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1165 on: June 23, 2018, 10:54:45 pm »

If Idplay is town, then DatSwan should hold his shot and Hydrad should prolly lightning rod.

If idplay is scum, Datswan should shoot and no Hydralightning.

I agree i should not shoot but i think there is a 0% chance that Hydrad is skum at this point so the second part is ok but i hate it

Its designed to protect us against a potential scum!you, so I get that you hate it as either alignment

Not like you bro - sloppy. No one is ever skum in my position and also a Vig.
Do you mean scum claiming last would never fakeclaim vig? Why not?

So i feel like the answers are obvious but before i answer i want to clarify - are you disagreeing with me?
Well, vig is generally a good fakeclaim for scum. Going last, you knew you didn't need to explain anything, which weakens its usefulness perhaps, but it's still a pretty good fakeclaim.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1166 on: June 23, 2018, 10:59:47 pm »

If Idplay is town, then DatSwan should hold his shot and Hydrad should prolly lightning rod.

If idplay is scum, Datswan should shoot and no Hydralightning.

I agree i should not shoot but i think there is a 0% chance that Hydrad is skum at this point so the second part is ok but i hate it
Which part did you hate and why?
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1167 on: June 23, 2018, 11:00:30 pm »

If Idplay is town, then DatSwan should hold his shot and Hydrad should prolly lightning rod.

If idplay is scum, Datswan should shoot and no Hydralightning.

I agree i should not shoot but i think there is a 0% chance that Hydrad is skum at this point so the second part is ok but i hate it

Its designed to protect us against a potential scum!you, so I get that you hate it as either alignment

Not like you bro - sloppy. No one is ever skum in my position and also a Vig.
Do you mean scum claiming last would never fakeclaim vig? Why not?

So i feel like the answers are obvious but before i answer i want to clarify - are you disagreeing with me?
Well, vig is generally a good fakeclaim for scum. Going last, you knew you didn't need to explain anything, which weakens its usefulness perhaps, but it's still a pretty good fakeclaim.

Ok except for this is this game - not just an assumption of all games - i could of claimed literally ANYTHING. If i was skum i would of claimed a ton of other shit before this, as would everyone.
Also you did t answer my question.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1168 on: June 23, 2018, 11:03:03 pm »

Yes, I disagree. But I'd like to hear where you are coming from, which might lead to me agreeing.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1169 on: June 23, 2018, 11:08:38 pm »

If Idplay is town, then DatSwan should hold his shot and Hydrad should prolly lightning rod.

If idplay is scum, Datswan should shoot and no Hydralightning.

I agree i should not shoot but i think there is a 0% chance that Hydrad is skum at this point so the second part is ok but i hate it
Which part did you hate and why?

I don’t get it?
1) i think Hydrad is Town
2) it should be pretty obv Hydrad is Town to everyone at this point
3) they use rod and die. Which is bad. And i don’t like.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1170 on: June 23, 2018, 11:13:14 pm »

If Idplay is town, then DatSwan should hold his shot and Hydrad should prolly lightning rod.

If idplay is scum, Datswan should shoot and no Hydralightning.

I agree i should not shoot but i think there is a 0% chance that Hydrad is skum at this point so the second part is ok but i hate it
Which part did you hate and why?

I don’t get it?
1) i think Hydrad is Town
2) it should be pretty obv Hydrad is Town to everyone at this point
3) they use rod and die. Which is bad. And i don’t like.
Ok, I thought you meant something specific to your role. Still interested to hear why scum in this game wouldn't fakeclaim vig.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1171 on: June 23, 2018, 11:14:50 pm »

Why is it either DatSwan or Galzria and not both?

Its possible and very much on my mind but I don't think today would have played out quite this way if they were both scum. Discussions for the next game day?
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1172 on: June 23, 2018, 11:16:21 pm »

I'm still at work for the next 45ish minutes. I'll read over this then.

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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1173 on: June 23, 2018, 11:17:08 pm »

Why is it either DatSwan or Galzria and not both?

Its possible and very much on my mind but I don't think today would have played out quite this way if they were both scum. Discussions for the next game day?
It's relevant to the POE that is motivating the lynch of IDPTG.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1174 on: June 23, 2018, 11:19:13 pm »

Why is it either DatSwan or Galzria and not both?

Its possible and very much on my mind but I don't think today would have played out quite this way if they were both scum. Discussions for the next game day?
It's relevant to the POE that is motivating the lynch of IDPTG.

that's why I had to stick with my read - that they would have pushed each other's lynch if one but not both were scum. I mean my PoE has been criticized a lot so obviously I hope its right.
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