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[iguanaiguana]

Here's the D1 final vote count in case there's anything to be learned here: 

Day 1 Final Vote Count

mcmcsalot (3): iguanaiguana, Awaclus, LaLight
Hydrad (1): IDontPlayThisGame
SpaceAnemone (1): Robz888
IDontPlayThisGame (1): Jimmmmm
LaLight (8): EFHW, gkrieg13, mcmcsalot, Galzria, Hydrad, Eevee, DatSwan, SpaceAnemone

Not Voting (0)

With 14 alive, it took 8 to lynch.

Things of note:

Having likely all townies at EoD on the opposing McMc wagon may have been the impetus for the scum team to decide to push McMc the next day.

2/3 of the unpopular 1 vote options are likely on scum with two of them being pushed by likely towns.

The lalight wagon was started by town and then hammered down by a mix of town and scum.

If Hydrad is scum and IDP is scum, then IDP ended the day bussing.

[iguanaiguana]

Vote: IDontPlayThisGame

I'm done for today.

[Hydrad]

Iguana, protecting me would allow three people to be protected the next night (me and my two targets.)

Hm.

I guess the bare bones of my plan is: we need to lynch IDP and if DatSwan is town he needs to prove it by shooting Galzria. Obviously we can't 100% lock things down with night actions because we don't know what scum can do. But if I rolestop DatSwan that doesn't give him much of an excuse for why his vig shot didn't go through.

We may be able to do something with Hydrad's lightning rod in order to ensure that we lynch correctly there too. But I think that should be a N5 thing not a N4 thing. Maybe?

if i use it it ruins all your plans for tonight and stuff also. so might not be good today.

[Swowl]

So i am good with the plan i think.... i have one little worry i need to read back on though.
My only concern is that with securing my shot so perfectly (role stop to defend potential role block) is we are kinda putting all of our eggs in one basket.

I cannot wrap my head around how skum!galz would mess up his claim the way he did, which is why i will tentatively agree to the plan.

My large concerns stems from the Night 1 logistics.
I checked Jim, he came back blank. We have gone through 100 scenarios trying to make it make sense... but the one that makes me nervous is the one where Galz is skum and lied and didn’t expect me to be a tracker. The point there is that that would dictate that Jim did not use his BP and when skum killed Jim they got that shot.

No way Skum!Galz carries N1 kill, and they would never use the BP on Eevee... so yeah.



Now i know that sounds like me “thinking too much about skum yadda yadda”... but it should be considered how likely it actually is that Galz is or could be bullet proofed if he is skum.

We need to discuss the lynch of the day, bc if IDP is Town, and Galz is Town... we lose tonight i think.

[iguanaiguana]

Ah yes, Galzria could be bulletproof scum.

Who do we think DatSwan should shoot?

[Swowl]

Ah yes, Galzria could be bulletproof scum.

Who do we think DatSwan should shoot?

OK also, I wanna make it clear of two things:

1) Not saying anything huge, but it was kind of skummy of you to miss that pretty large flaw in the plan. So it has me just slightly suspicious of your motives with assigning my shot rn.

2) I still don't know if shooting Galz is the wrong play, I was kind of hoping to talk about it before we just moved off of him.

If we need to select someone else I am actually kind of a fan of having Awaclus choose. Or whatever, but just throwing that idea out there.

[iguanaiguana]

Ah yes, Galzria could be bulletproof scum.

Who do we think DatSwan should shoot?

OK also, I wanna make it clear of two things:

1) Not saying anything huge, but it was kind of skummy of you to miss that pretty large flaw in the plan. So it has me just slightly suspicious of your motives with assigning my shot rn.

2) I still don't know if shooting Galz is the wrong play, I was kind of hoping to talk about it before we just moved off of him.

If we need to select someone else I am actually kind of a fan of having Awaclus choose. Or whatever, but just throwing that idea out there.

If you want to call me scummy for any reason you should probably address how you think the N2 kill was blocked other than EFHW or I blocking it.

[iguanaiguana]

Instead of having DatSwan shoot, we could make Hydrad use his lightning rod tonight instead. I don't like that idea as much though because personally I think Space is scum and Hydrad is town.

[iguanaiguana]

But getting Hydrad NKd is undeniably good for PoE at this point.

[Hydrad]

Ya I am town. But at the same time I have been doing terrible this game so me drawing a kill might be the most helpful thing I do lol.

[Swowl]

Ah yes, Galzria could be bulletproof scum.

Who do we think DatSwan should shoot?

OK also, I wanna make it clear of two things:

1) Not saying anything huge, but it was kind of skummy of you to miss that pretty large flaw in the plan. So it has me just slightly suspicious of your motives with assigning my shot rn.

2) I still don't know if shooting Galz is the wrong play, I was kind of hoping to talk about it before we just moved off of him.

If we need to select someone else I am actually kind of a fan of having Awaclus choose. Or whatever, but just throwing that idea out there.

If you want to call me scummy for any reason you should probably address how you think the N2 kill was blocked other than EFHW or I blocking it.

I mean... i said it was a light notion to begin with - but obv if you are skum i also assume EFHW is skum.

[iguanaiguana]

Ah yes, Galzria could be bulletproof scum.

Who do we think DatSwan should shoot?

OK also, I wanna make it clear of two things:

1) Not saying anything huge, but it was kind of skummy of you to miss that pretty large flaw in the plan. So it has me just slightly suspicious of your motives with assigning my shot rn.

2) I still don't know if shooting Galz is the wrong play, I was kind of hoping to talk about it before we just moved off of him.

If we need to select someone else I am actually kind of a fan of having Awaclus choose. Or whatever, but just throwing that idea out there.

If you want to call me scummy for any reason you should probably address how you think the N2 kill was blocked other than EFHW or I blocking it.

I mean... i said it was a light notion to begin with - but obv if you are skum i also assume EFHW is skum.

Can you create a plausible narrative for that?

[Robz888]

Gosh I do not have enough time to put in the necessary brain power for this right now. When is our deadline? It's not like soon is it?

[iguanaiguana]

Sunday.

[Swowl]

Ah yes, Galzria could be bulletproof scum.

Who do we think DatSwan should shoot?

OK also, I wanna make it clear of two things:

1) Not saying anything huge, but it was kind of skummy of you to miss that pretty large flaw in the plan. So it has me just slightly suspicious of your motives with assigning my shot rn.

2) I still don't know if shooting Galz is the wrong play, I was kind of hoping to talk about it before we just moved off of him.

If we need to select someone else I am actually kind of a fan of having Awaclus choose. Or whatever, but just throwing that idea out there.

If you want to call me scummy for any reason you should probably address how you think the N2 kill was blocked other than EFHW or I blocking it.

I mean... i said it was a light notion to begin with - but obv if you are skum i also assume EFHW is skum.

Can you create a plausible narrative for that?

I actually have one that is even remotely not laughable. But as i see no point in risking a lynch on you today I’m gonna keep t to myself for now (sorry)

[EFHW]

Hydrad dying doesn't help that much with POE, since he and Space could both be town. Also, he could be roleblocked and then we might draw the wrong conclusion.

Space, would your role help us in this POE overnight?

Unless Space can help somehow, I think we should not have a specific plan for tonight. If DatSwan is town, he can pick the vig target he thinks is best. I think WIFOM is our friend here.

[EFHW]

I'm ok with an IDP lynch. He is very different this game. He said he's some kind of enabler. It would be good to hear more about that.

Still hoping for an answer to this.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

I'm ok with an IDP lynch. He is very different this game. He said he's some kind of enabler. It would be good to hear more about that.

Still hoping for an answer to this.

A little drunk atm. I'll decide if I want to answer when I'm sober.

[Robz888]

I'm ok with an IDP lynch. He is very different this game. He said he's some kind of enabler. It would be good to hear more about that.

Still hoping for an answer to this.

A little drunk atm. I'll decide if I want to answer when I'm sober.

Decide now! It's more fun! I'm drunk too FWIW

[Swowl]

Hydrad dying doesn't help that much with POE, since he and Space could both be town. Also, he could be roleblocked and then we might draw the wrong conclusion.

Space, would your role help us in this POE overnight?

Unless Space can help somehow, I think we should not have a specific plan for tonight. If DatSwan is town, he can pick the vig target he thinks is best. I think WIFOM is our friend here.

I am OK with that as of right this moment.

[Robz888]

Hydrad dying doesn't help that much with POE, since he and Space could both be town. Also, he could be roleblocked and then we might draw the wrong conclusion.

Space, would your role help us in this POE overnight?

Unless Space can help somehow, I think we should not have a specific plan for tonight. If DatSwan is town, he can pick the vig target he thinks is best. I think WIFOM is our friend here.

I am OK with that as of right this moment.

I mean, that's stupid, OF COURSE you are okay with the plan that gives you maximum flexibility.

[Swowl]

Hydrad dying doesn't help that much with POE, since he and Space could both be town. Also, he could be roleblocked and then we might draw the wrong conclusion.

Space, would your role help us in this POE overnight?

Unless Space can help somehow, I think we should not have a specific plan for tonight. If DatSwan is town, he can pick the vig target he thinks is best. I think WIFOM is our friend here.

I am OK with that as of right this moment.

I mean, that's stupid, OF COURSE you are okay with the plan that gives you maximum flexibility.

I am also OK with the plan I presented before this which was either "Awaclus chooses" or "majority vote chooses".

[iguanaiguana]

Ah yes, Galzria could be bulletproof scum.

Who do we think DatSwan should shoot?

OK also, I wanna make it clear of two things:

1) Not saying anything huge, but it was kind of skummy of you to miss that pretty large flaw in the plan. So it has me just slightly suspicious of your motives with assigning my shot rn.

2) I still don't know if shooting Galz is the wrong play, I was kind of hoping to talk about it before we just moved off of him.

If we need to select someone else I am actually kind of a fan of having Awaclus choose. Or whatever, but just throwing that idea out there.

If you want to call me scummy for any reason you should probably address how you think the N2 kill was blocked other than EFHW or I blocking it.

I mean... i said it was a light notion to begin with - but obv if you are skum i also assume EFHW is skum.

Can you create a plausible narrative for that?

I actually have one that is even remotely not laughable. But as i see no point in risking a lynch on you today I’m gonna keep t to myself for now (sorry)

Lol ok dude

[iguanaiguana]

Hydrad dying doesn't help that much with POE, since he and Space could both be town. Also, he could be roleblocked and then we might draw the wrong conclusion.

Space, would your role help us in this POE overnight?

Unless Space can help somehow, I think we should not have a specific plan for tonight. If DatSwan is town, he can pick the vig target he thinks is best. I think WIFOM is our friend here.

I mean, they are both town only if DatSwan/Galz are scum and gambiting, or I am wrong about Robz/Awaclus. Both are possible but I don't think the likeliest.

I think Hydrad is town. So actually him dying is only helpful for PoE theoretically. So yeah, "no plan" is an okay plan for right now.

Honestly I just wanted to be like Ashersky and break the setup.

[iguanaiguana]

I'd like to hear IDPTG's insight about Awaclus.

I missed something. With so little information in the set-up post, I haven't reread it as much as I normally do so I don't remember it as well. unvote

Idea went poof?

Yeah. Slips aren't slips when they're in the set-up post. I said I had a (1) reason.

What was this about exactly?