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[EFHW]

Why did you target mcmc, when you knew he had been vanilla-ized?

I didn't notice he said that.

Oh, I didn't notice you said that. Thanks.

[SpaceAnemone]

I am just gonna get ahead of the questions here and say that "my pr is complicated" (or at least it is to me). Specifically, it leads me to believe it is possible that Skum!Neighbor may of had a PR that expires, or is forced to be used at an exact time.
Essentially what I am trying to say that if there was a situation last night where Skum!Nieghbor was "forced" to be the person to carry out the kill - then they would of had to kill Jim right?  I am saying this under the assumption they would be removed from the Neighborhood or whatever once that was no longer part of their PR.

This is from DatSwan back in early D2. We now know that Swan has claimed vig-plus-oddnight-tracker. That's not quite what I felt he was driving at here, whereas something like Eevee's D3 Guilty Child seemed much more the kind of thing Swan was describing.

[iguanaiguana]

Why did you target mcmc, when you knew he had been vanilla-ized?

I didn't notice he said that.

Now you know that to play optimally you have to read posts longer than one line even when they didn't quote your post.

[EFHW]

Why did you target mcmc, when you knew he had been vanilla-ized?

I didn't notice he said that.

Oh, I didn't notice you said that. Thanks.

Two more questions - Was it a one-shot deal? Did you take this action at night, meaning it could have been subject to interference?

[EFHW]

I am just gonna get ahead of the questions here and say that "my pr is complicated" (or at least it is to me). Specifically, it leads me to believe it is possible that Skum!Neighbor may of had a PR that expires, or is forced to be used at an exact time.
Essentially what I am trying to say that if there was a situation last night where Skum!Nieghbor was "forced" to be the person to carry out the kill - then they would of had to kill Jim right?  I am saying this under the assumption they would be removed from the Neighborhood or whatever once that was no longer part of their PR.

This is from DatSwan back in early D2. We now know that Swan has claimed vig-plus-oddnight-tracker. That's not quite what I felt he was driving at here, whereas something like Eevee's D3 Guilty Child seemed much more the kind of thing Swan was describing.

This is a good point. I'm interested to hear DatSwan's response.

[iguanaiguana]

I need to reread but I think DatSwan might be scum here.

That would also make that mini gkrieg wagon on D2 make a lot more sense.

[EFHW]

I think our appointing Awaclus as IC may have been premature. His role really doesn't sound universal or like backup. It sounds like the absorbing scum do when they nk. Would faust have named it so imprecisely? Possible, but something I think he would try to avoid. gkrieg could have been redirected.

[Awaclus]

Two more questions - Was it a one-shot deal? Did you take this action at night, meaning it could have been subject to interference?

1) It wasn't, but obviously there isn't a way to use it again now that I've lost that role.
2) Yes.

I think our appointing Awaclus as IC may have been premature. His role really doesn't sound universal or like backup. It sounds like the absorbing scum do when they nk.

Mcmc wasn't NK'd, he was lynched.

[Awaclus]

Would faust have named it so imprecisely?

It's an active universal backup.

[iguanaiguana]

I dunno EFHW, he got copped. We don't even need to sort Awaclus today as long as we agree its better to lynch elsewhere.

[EFHW]

I dunno EFHW, he got copped. We don't even need to sort Awaclus today as long as we agree its better to lynch elsewhere.

We don't have to lynch him today, but gkrieg could have been rolecopped N1 and redirected N2. I'm objecting to the IC status.

[iguanaiguana]

I dunno EFHW, he got copped. We don't even need to sort Awaclus today as long as we agree its better to lynch elsewhere.

We don't have to lynch him today, but gkrieg could have been rolecopped N1 and redirected N2. I'm objecting to the IC status.

What is your opinion on DatSwan vs Galzria?

[IDontPlayThisGame]

Catching up

[IDontPlayThisGame]

Ok, to me it looked like potential scum partner deflection. Especially because EFHW had just brought up Robz too. So you ended up backing that up but ignoring the Galz stuff, which IMO is weirder and scunmier.

Is this the post you were talking about from EFHW?

Robz's claim could be a fakeclaim.  None of the details are verifiable.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

My hesitation with Galz's claim is that I do think scum!Galz would be so bold as to create a claim that he knows town can't verify and attempt to talk his way out of it.

[Swowl]

I am just gonna get ahead of the questions here and say that "my pr is complicated" (or at least it is to me). Specifically, it leads me to believe it is possible that Skum!Neighbor may of had a PR that expires, or is forced to be used at an exact time.
Essentially what I am trying to say that if there was a situation last night where Skum!Nieghbor was "forced" to be the person to carry out the kill - then they would of had to kill Jim right?  I am saying this under the assumption they would be removed from the Neighborhood or whatever once that was no longer part of their PR.

This is from DatSwan back in early D2. We now know that Swan has claimed vig-plus-oddnight-tracker. That's not quite what I felt he was driving at here, whereas something like Eevee's D3 Guilty Child seemed much more the kind of thing Swan was describing.

I was speaking in context to how i had to select my modifiers on N0.
I until claim time i kind of was acting under the impression most of us went through the similar process. The thing that made most sense for a Jim death was skum shared his hood...and the. You can price the logic together from there.
I do however, upon reading, see as how my language would of been suggesting i had a modifier of that specific type.

[iguanaiguana]

My hesitation with Galz's claim is that I do think scum!Galz would be so bold as to create a claim that he knows town can't verify and attempt to talk his way out of it.

Talk his way out of a bad claim once it backfires? Definitely. But he also is experienced enough to know not to claim completely bad things to start with. What would his motive be for doing that? Just hoping that he can WIFOM people into never lynching him?

It seems like his fakeclaim would be a needlessly high risk strategy.

[iguanaiguana]

Constant wild weird speculation about what scum might be doing is actually a big part of Swan's scum MO.

[iguanaiguana]

Vote: DatSwan

I am talking myself into this one. Hope I don't regret it!

[Swowl]

Constant wild weird speculation about what scum might be doing is actually a big part of Swan's scum MO.

How is one post constant wild weird talking? I mean you do you, but space asked a question and i have an answer.
I feel like you are grasping to create cases when there are actual cases to be made instead.

[iguanaiguana]

Constant wild weird speculation about what scum might be doing is actually a big part of Swan's scum MO.

How is one post constant wild weird talking? I mean you do you, but space asked a question and i have an answer.
I feel like you are grasping to create cases when there are actual cases to be made instead.

Oh no I am definitely sheeping Galz's case. That was just a little thing. I was more remembering how much wild speculation you did in Lost mafia and then suddenly realizing some of your posts in here are pretty similar.

I think I should reread you though and try to figure out why I townread you D1

[Robz888]

A point in Galz's favor, and against DatSwan, is that Galz defected from the mcmc wagon to vote Eevee at a pretty pivotal moment--just before I did, actually. DS, on the other hand, hammered mcmc.

I am wary, though, of being tricked by scum!Galz's silver tongue. He is absolutely capable of all of this.

[iguanaiguana]

Unvote actually until I can properly re read. SorryI know I'm all over the place.

[iguanaiguana]

A point in Galz's favor, and against DatSwan, is that Galz defected from the mcmc wagon to vote Eevee at a pretty pivotal moment--just before I did, actually. DS, on the other hand, hammered mcmc.

I am wary, though, of being tricked by scum!Galz's silver tongue. He is absolutely capable of all of this.

I know, right?? If it was anyone BUT Galz I would happily vote DatSwan I feel like, but it's Galz so you never know how deeply he drank the wine, and I hate rewarding 'too scummy to be scum' claims like his seems to be.

I really really want some explanation for how a town could have targeted him D2 besides a scum redirector that we haven't seen any other evidence for.

[iguanaiguana]

We know we probably shouldn't lynch among Robz, Awaclus, Iguana, EFHW.

So that only leaves: IDP, Space, Hydrad, Galz, DatSwan.

If we assume there's exactly one scum in Galz/DatSwan, then that should mean two scum in IDP, Space, Hydrad, no???

Or like, if there is also one scum in Hydrad/Space (one scum neighbor, one town) then IDP is scum by PoE.

Maybe we should just lynch him?

I mean, there's all sorts of snags to that. Hydrad/Space could both be scum lying about being neighbors (but I doubt that based on interactions). Galz/DatSwan could both be scum gambiting.

I think I should follow McMc's advice and color the wagons in with all the green and red.