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[Cuzz]

What if scum are offering up their teammate Galzria for towncred? That would explain Galzria's absence and put FOS on DatSwan in particular,  also gkrieg.

I don't think you can make these accusations until after we know how galzria flips.

That probably explains why EFHW used the word "would."

[O]

What if scum are offering up their teammate Galzria for towncred? That would explain Galzria's absence and put FOS on DatSwan in particular,  also gkrieg.

I don't think you can make these accusations until after we know how galzria flips.

That's the beauty of hypotheticals. You can make accusations based off of whatever conditionals you want.

Town overall is quiet, which worries me because that would make sense if Galz was town and scum were okay with letting current momentum ride. But also Galz is exceedingly quiet, which makes very little sense if Galz is town. Makes more sense for it to be scum!Galz hoping I second guess myself.

After all, one of the self-proclaimed strongest town players would never be lurking it out on their deathbed!

TLDR the entire 0 defense given in recent days has shockingly not made me change my suspicions, still plan to lynch Galz. Am open to other suggestions but frankly given how little I can and do trust most of the rest of you it's hard to see why I'd follow one.

[gkrieg13]

What if scum are offering up their teammate Galzria for towncred? That would explain Galzria's absence and put FOS on DatSwan in particular,  also gkrieg.

I don't think you can make these accusations until after we know how galzria flips.

That probably explains why EFHW used the word "would."

I guess I'm saying it is scummy to post such a thing until after we know Galzria's alignment.

[Cuzz]

What if scum are offering up their teammate Galzria for towncred? That would explain Galzria's absence and put FOS on DatSwan in particular,  also gkrieg.

I don't think you can make these accusations until after we know how galzria flips.

That probably explains why EFHW used the word "would."

I guess I'm saying it is scummy to post such a thing until after we know Galzria's alignment.

It’s not scummy, but you’re scummy for saying it is.

[gkrieg13]

What if scum are offering up their teammate Galzria for towncred? That would explain Galzria's absence and put FOS on DatSwan in particular,  also gkrieg.

I don't think you can make these accusations until after we know how galzria flips.

How so?

That probably explains why EFHW used the word "would."

I guess I'm saying it is scummy to post such a thing until after we know Galzria's alignment.

It’s not scummy, but you’re scummy for saying it is.

[gkrieg13]

What if scum are offering up their teammate Galzria for towncred? That would explain Galzria's absence and put FOS on DatSwan in particular,  also gkrieg.

I don't think you can make these accusations until after we know how galzria flips.

That probably explains why EFHW used the word "would."

I guess I'm saying it is scummy to post such a thing until after we know Galzria's alignment.

It’s not scummy, but you’re scummy for saying it is.

How so?

[EFHW]

Things are really dragging here. vote: Lalight

[gkrieg13]

Things are really dragging here. vote: Lalight

Why LaLight over Galz?

[EFHW]

Things are really dragging here. vote: Lalight

Why LaLight over Galz?

Because I think Galz is an easy scum target because of the hammer and I have been consistently reading TWM and LL as scummy.

[gkrieg13]

Just quick note to the SK, you lose today if you are lynched, or if town is lynched.  We all need to lynch scum in order for you to have any chance to win.

[iguanaiguana]

Although my heart started to race...

Vote count 3.9

Galzria (2): gkrieg13, DatSwan
gkrieg13 (1): Lalight
Lalight (1): EFHW

not voting (4): SpaceAnemone, Galzria, Cuzz,, O

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 2 ends Wednesday, April 25 at 8:30am forum time.

Mod Note: ~15 hours are left until deadline.

[O]

Vote: Galzria

No posts here in ~4-5 days? Last active today. Posted to sign in/out of M116.

Scummy people currently voting for Galz. Lack of content suggests scum are fine with the Galz lynch going thru. Gkrieg and Lalight/TWM look especially scummy today.

All of that is easily outweighed by Galzria, typically a highly and invested active mafia player AND the primary lynch option right now, not even trying to prevent his own lynch. Town!Galz is so very unlikely to do that, while scum Galz could be letting the bus happen or just banking on his teammates winning post-lynch.

[Cuzz]

Vote: Galzria it is. Deadline is sooner and less conveniently timed than I realized.

Something in the ballpark of a gkrieg/Galz/LL scumteam with O as SK is starting to feel right to me.

[O]

Unvote

... were you waiting for me to vote?

[O]

Not sure if Cuzz is trying to quickhammer or something but that's some off timing..

[Cuzz]

Unvote

... were you waiting for me to vote?

Nah I was just inspired by your initiative.

[O]

meh nevermind Vote: Galzria

I don't see another lynch going through, especially not without Cuzz as a voter, so no point in paranoia over timing.

[O]

Something in the ballpark of a gkrieg/Galz/LL scumteam with O as SK is starting to feel right to me.

yes, yes, yes, no.

[SpaceAnemone]

I'm here and catching up/reorganising thoughts! I almost thought I'd missed a sudden hammer, but I think it's only 4 people on Galz at present. The fact that scum possibly/probably know who the SK is, have a possible reason to want to lynch them over shooting at night (especially if O is right about e being a mafia kill), and that several people have been pushing only Galz in D3 with very little discussion of who the other scums are kind of makes me nervous there, even though I'd previously convinced myself that the SK is a different person for other reasons.

[SpaceAnemone]

In other news, Haddock and I (plus a couple of other friends) finally reached the end of Pandemic Legacy Season 2 tonight, and it was intense, so I'm a bit wiped out now.

[iguanaiguana]

Now it has slowed...

Vote count 3.10

Galzria (4): gkrieg13, DatSwan, Cuzz, O (L-1)
gkrieg13 (1): Lalight
Lalight (1): EFHW

not voting (2): SpaceAnemone, Galzria

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 2 ends Wednesday, April 25 at 8:30am forum time.

Mod Note: ~13 hours are left until deadline.

[SpaceAnemone]

Vote: gkrieg, since I feel surprisingly unworried about his teammates quickhammering now.

The deadline is 13.30 for me, which is about when I normally take my lunch break, so that's really convenient for once.

[gkrieg13]

Vote: gkrieg, since I feel surprisingly unworried about his teammates quickhammering now.

The deadline is 13.30 for me, which is about when I normally take my lunch break, so that's really convenient for once.

Which "his teammates" are you referring to?  I'm not sure if that is me or galzria.

[gkrieg13]

Vote: gkrieg, since I feel surprisingly unworried about his teammates quickhammering now.

The deadline is 13.30 for me, which is about when I normally take my lunch break, so that's really convenient for once.

Which "his teammates" are you referring to?  I'm not sure if that is me or galzria.

Actually regardless of who it is referring to, I'm not sure I understand your point.

[gkrieg13]

Actually with galzria not here, scum has won if galzria is town anyway.

town + SK are needed to lynch scum, and galzria has not voted for anyone.  I'm pretty sure a no-lynch still has pretty high chances of ending in a mafia win, so if galz doesn't show up and we no-lynch because his partners are unwilling to bus, I'm pretty sure mafia still win with decent probability.

I guess if mafia block the SK, then only their kill goes through, which would put us at weird LYLO, where there are 3 town, 1 SK and 3 mafia.

Hmmmmmm...  I think (I'm still at work and thinking about other things atm) that mafia 100% wins if we lynch town or SK here and they either block SK to force LYLO tomorrow or they let SK shoot, which SK should be trying to shoot mafia at that point.  Then we have more MYLO.  If SK hits town, mafia win.

Basically a no lynch isn't that bad for scum here, but probably bad for town and SK.  So I'm scum reading people who don't hammer galz, assuming galz isn't coming back.