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[EFHW]

schadd has been prodded.

[Galzria]

I've been reading. Won't have time to do much today or tomorrow. Will try to get something in Friday morning. Completely unavailable Saturday/Sunday. Monday will be my first actually available day to post.

What were your first impressions when you saw mcmc flip? Or awal or days wan dead? Reread a are nice, but Monday is a day before deadline.

It's not a reread issue, it's a work issue. I have a work deadline to run a swim meet with a few hundred kids Saturday afternoon.

Regarding your questions/points and others made thusfar:

Mcmc was your typical D1 lynch. Unlikely to hit scum, but Robz' points against him were better than anything else made D1. I'm not unhappy with my vote there.

Most people misinterpreted my point about being concerned of being Vigged as being against Robz. It was against Theorel. I was agreeing with Robz.

Robz is incorrect today in his statement that scum!Theorel knows mcmc will flip town and is thus unconcerned about partner claims - Mcmc could've flipped SK. It's a small point, but one that gives Robz scum points. I don't think either town or scum Robz forgets SK - but I think scum Robz is more likely to feign ignorance about it so as to not draw suspicion ("Mafia are more aware about SK than town...").

Both kills off wagon are interesting. I haven't put much thought into it, and certainly I haven't looked at what it means against votes yesterday. I don't see Mafia killing Awaclus here though. There are far better options in terms of "strong town players" and "more likely PR's". SK might hoping to hit Mafia though, but honestly he feels like the Vig kill. At worst, a town player that won't help town win is gone, and at best you hit scum. Datswan, then, feels like a scum kill. Whether SK or Mafia I have no clue - I would want to reread him to see if there's something there.

I wouldn't feel comfortable giving reads right now. I haven't had the time to process most of my thoughts.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Thanks. Understand about time and business.

[SpaceAnemone]

Sorry! I got slightly behind :-( Faust and his partner have now set off for the second part of their trip, and I'm back in the office nursing a cold almost as bad as the one faust left with :-(

I'm busy tomorrow and today from straight after work till late, so I should use my lunch break to catch up, except that if I don't go out to the shops and buy more soya milk, I won't be able to mainline enough tea this afternoon to feel human, so I'm going to head out and do that part first...

[Witherweaver]

Vote: PPS

[pingpongsam]

Vote: PPS

Genius play. Just genius.

[Witherweaver]

Vote: PPS

Genius play. Just genius.

Thank  you.

[Witherweaver]

Vote: Schadd

[pingpongsam]

Robz doesn't seem very scummy at all. The only scummy thing about Robz is that he's actually playing the game early on. Which, for Robz, is super scummy.

Schadd is a big ole null. I can't read that guy, like at all. I was actually thinking there is no way schadd and WW are scum partners when mcmc did the thing where he said something about them being tvt. So, I get where mcmc was coming from on that except I was a bit more specific in my analysis. Either one could be scum but likely not both.

WW, on the surface doesn't look straight up scummy. If there's scum between him and schadd it's him, though. He's definitely avoiding positions that put him into much scrutiny but being sure to be suspicious of everyone else. Is this opportunism or just ignorant town? Null leaning scum here. Scum for his interactions with theorel and for his positioning on the mcmc wagon as well as his casting shade on Robz. At this point in the read I'm thinking WW and Theorel may be partners.

Space is looking like town!space. Can't say much much more than that. Does scum!space get on mcmc at that point? Maybe but not if partnered with WW/Therorel. Included themselves on their reads list, so there's that.

TWM reads pretty null so far. I know his town tells and they are later game so pass for now. Could be a theorel partner.

Vote: Theorel

[Witherweaver]

What do you mean by interactions with Theorel?

[pingpongsam]

What do you mean by interactions with Theorel?

You only had one direct interaction and it was your usual dismissive. But a bit later you accused him of townslipping.

Today you start off agreeing with your partner as you go in to help frame poor Robz. Don't deny it!

[Witherweaver]

What do you mean by interactions with Theorel?

You only had one direct interaction and it was your usual dismissive. But a bit later you accused him of townslipping.

Today you start off agreeing with your partner as you go in to help frame poor Robz. Don't deny it!

I do aim to be dismissive.

[Witherweaver]

I do think Theorel is town, for what it's worth.

[Robz888]

Robz is incorrect today in his statement that scum!Theorel knows mcmc will flip town and is thus unconcerned about partner claims - Mcmc could've flipped SK. It's a small point, but one that gives Robz scum points. I don't think either town or scum Robz forgets SK - but I think scum Robz is more likely to feign ignorance about it so as to not draw suspicion ("Mafia are more aware about SK than town...").

You're right, and also, thinking about this made me realize something you missed--SK!theorel would have been unsure about mcmc, regardless of mcmc's alignment. I don't think either town or scum Galz forgets SK!theorel, but I think SK!Galz is more likely to feign ignorance about it so as not to draw suspicion.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Vote: Schadd

Genius play. Just genius

[serious]

[Joseph2302]

I'll catch up tomorrow I'm too drunk to do anything useful now

[Joseph2302]

Other than ask what is the meaning of life? After all,  the outcome of life is death

[Witherweaver]

Vote: Schadd

Genius play. Just genius

[serious]

Thank you!

[schadd]

weird

my reason for not immediately voting mcmc?

i had no hurry to vote mcmc and as it happens there was a strong reason to not do that (which i mean i wasn't considering specifically but)

Schadd is a big ole null. I can't read that guy, like at all. I was actually thinking there is no way schadd and WW are scum partners when mcmc did the thing where he said something about them being tvt. So, I get where mcmc was coming from on that except I was a bit more specific in my analysis. Either one could be scum but likely not both.

WW, on the surface doesn't look straight up scummy. If there's scum between him and schadd it's him, though. He's definitely avoiding positions that put him into much scrutiny but being sure to be suspicious of everyone else.

you say either ww or i could be scum and then you say it is definitely ww that is scum

can you elaborate on that last sentence in the quote?

Vote: Schadd

Genius play. Just genius

[serious]

do you have any other reasoning for me being scum than what you've posted? 281 and 286

[schadd]

schadd: He has that argument with ww, which now known-town mcmc thought included scum.

i mean you thought it didn't and if you are town you know yourself to be town

[pingpongsam]

Not sure how to elaborate. Reading his posts there is no firm stance, no resistance for people to push on but always a subtle insinuation that people are scummy. Good catch on my failed logic, I was basically just updating a text box as I read along.

[pingpongsam]

That definitely wasn’t the scum trap though, still waiting for someone to step in that...

[EFHW]

"At my age, if I make it up, it's still an old saying."

Vote Count 2.1

schadd (2): The_Wine_Merchant, Witherweaver
Galzria (1): theorel
theorel (1): pingpongsam

Not voting (5): Galzria, Joseph2303, Robz888, schadd, SpaceAnemone

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends Tuesday, March 27th at 5:00 p.m.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

We should remember scum has daychat

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Reason is that he has stayed completely away from the mcmc wagon. It is obviously the biggest thing going on in the game, but he hasn't voted for him or defended him. He has just ignored it except to say "reasonable" to me and someone else that voted for him.

If mcmc is town then schadd stays off the mislynch wagon. If mcmc is scum, then I don't expect schadd to act this way, but I don't really think mcmc is scum.

i wanted to see if/how galz would leave ww

i asked mcmc what he thought was not tvt

vote: mcmc L-1 people don't tend to defend scum partners on this site, or even avoid voting them really

i townread swan

I could have sworn someone already asked schadd to explain the how gall would react part, but could not find it. schadd can you elaborate?

Ps i’ll Answer your questions when I get to an actual computer