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[J.lancaster1]

What is the process when you kings court a nobles?
Here is the specific scenario-
Kings court nobles
Chose +3 cards
Chose +2 Actions
The player now plays those +2 actions (plays the action cards) before playing the nobles the third time (making the 3rd choice)

Is this right, or should the player have to choose +3 cards or +2 actions again before playing any other card?

[SCSN]

He should first play his Nobles three times before he does anything else, regardless of what he happens to choose.

or should the player have to choose +3 cards or +2 actions again before playing any other card?

So this is correct.

[Rabid]

Rule rule you are missing is:

+2 actions means: add two to the number of action cards you can play this turn.

(not play two more action cards immediately)

[WanderingWinder]

More specifically, you play king's court. You then may choose an action card from your hand to play three times. You choose nobles.
So you play Nobles three times.
The first time you play Nobles, you choose, and you can either get +3 cards (meaning you draw 3 cards) or +2 actions (which means that you get the ability to at some point in your action phase this turn, play more action cards; it does NOT mean that you just play those actions immediately, or that you have to play any actions at all, or that you gain action cards. It seems to me that your confusion is because you don't really have the firm understanding of what +2 actions means).
Then, the next thing you do is play that same Nobles again. You make the choice again, though you can make a different choice this time.
Then you play the (same) Nobles the third time. You again get a choice to get +3 cards or +2 actions, and to emphasize again, the choice is totally independent of what choices you made on the first two plays of the Nobles.

AFTER all of that is done, you continue with your action phase; if you have actions left to use and action cards in your hand to play, you may play them (though you don't HAVE to); you can also proceed at this point (or after playing and resolving any subsequent action card) to your buy phase, after which you won't be able to play any more actions, but you will be able to play treasures and buy a card (or more than one card, if you have played a card which gives +buy).


I hope this makes things clear.

[J.lancaster1]

Said player feels that the above comments are contradictory. Please reply to this with a simple "Yes" or "No"

Can the user play the Grand Market BEFORE choosing what the Noble will do the 3rd time (+3 Cards or +2 Actions)?

[Robz888]

Said player feels that the above comments are contradictory. Please reply to this with a simple "Yes" or "No"

Can the user play the Grand Market BEFORE choosing what the Noble will do the 3rd time (+3 Cards or +2 Actions)?

No.

[theory]

No.

The other posts are a little lengthy because you might be making a fairly simple and common mistake -- "+2 Actions" does not mean, "play 2 Actions right now".  It means you now have the ability to play an additional two more Actions, at any time during your turn.

[Kirian]

Said player feels that the above comments are contradictory. Please reply to this with a simple "Yes" or "No"

Can the user play the Grand Market BEFORE choosing what the Noble will do the 3rd time (+3 Cards or +2 Actions)?

No.

Slightly less succinctly:  All three plays of Nobles are resolved before any other actions can be taken.

(Assuming you have actions left, but if you have other actions in hand at least one of those plays of Nobles should have been +2 Actions.)

[blueblimp]

No.

The other posts are a little lengthy because you might be making a fairly simple and common mistake -- "+2 Actions" does not mean, "play 2 Actions right now".  It means you now have the ability to play an additional two more Actions, at any time during your turn.

Yes, and this misconception is addressed specifically in the rulebook (emphasis mine):

"+X Action(s)" – the player may play X number of additional Actions this turn. +X Action(s) adds to the number of Actions that can be played in the Action phase. It does not mean play another Action immediately. The instructions on the current Action card must be completed before playing any additional Actions.

[GendoIkari]

No.

The other posts are a little lengthy because you might be making a fairly simple and common mistake -- "+2 Actions" does not mean, "play 2 Actions right now".  It means you now have the ability to play an additional two more Actions, at any time during your turn.

Yes, and this misconception is addressed specifically in the rulebook (emphasis mine):

"+X Action(s)" – the player may play X number of additional Actions this turn. +X Action(s) adds to the number of Actions that can be played in the Action phase. It does not mean play another Action immediately. The instructions on the current Action card must be completed before playing any additional Actions.

Though it wasn't originally; it was added to later editions.

[soulnet]

(Assuming you have actions left, but if you have other actions in hand at least one of those plays of Nobles should have been +2 Actions.)

That's definitely not true in lots of cases, and its quite a Pandora's box to open.

[HiveMindEmulator]

No.

The other posts are a little lengthy because you might be making a fairly simple and common mistake -- "+2 Actions" does not mean, "play 2 Actions right now".  It means you now have the ability to play an additional two more Actions, at any time during your turn.

...well any time when you're allow to play action cards, i.e. not in the middle of resolving another action.

[Davio]

As a general strategy tip: If you start with no actions, you should pick the following order when KC-ing a Nobles:

+3 Cards first
If you draw 4 action cards you want to play, well, pick +2 Actions the second and third time, otherwise:
+3 Cards again
Now check if you have any action cards, in that case pick +2 Actions, otherwise:
+3 Cards the last time

The idea is to defer picking +2 Actions until you're sure you need them.
There are exceptions obviously, but it would be a waste if you're picking +2 Actions and end up not needing them.

[pst]

Said player feels that the above comments are contradictory.

They are not. If you think so it might be because you have that misconception about what "+2 Actions" means. If that's the case you will do wrong on other occasions, regardless of you get a specific answer to this specific situation or not.

[Grujah]

f.ds at what it does second best:
overexplaining.

[lespeutere]

Time for my all time favourite:

A bunch of people will post after this saying the same thing, but with a lengthy confusing explanation.

(Although in this case, it's more probable a good thing to explain a little more to prevent further misplay.)

[() | (_) ^/]

f.ds at what it does second best:
overexplaining.

Depends on the board question.

[Tables]

f.ds at what it does second best:
overexplaining.

Depends on the board question.

Yeah, it really doesn't depend on the board here. Every single board, from rules, to general discussion, to non-mafia games will give the same level of overexplaining.

Did I put enough in there to make the joke clear? I hope I didn't overexplain it...

[Witherweaver]

f.ds at what it does second best:
overexplaining.

Depends on the board question.

Yeah, it really doesn't depend on the board here. Every single board, from rules, to general discussion, to non-mafia games will give the same level of overexplaining.

Did I put enough in there to make the joke clear? I hope I didn't overexplain it...

The rules board probably has more overexplaining than the other ones.  But maybe if you explain how you came to this conclusion then it can help level the scales...