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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1500 on: March 14, 2018, 12:19:43 pm »

woah iguana where did this mcmc has been scummy thing come from? We both pushed lalight which unfortunately flipped town. I actually do not think I have played a bad game, I for once don't wish I pushed harder day one, I pushed as hard as I could against the awful galz and clem wagons. Day two my reads were destroyed by the pps claim/space result, and day three I really thought lalight was scummy, I even continued doing rereads and worked up a ghacob case yesterday while everyone was doing nothing waiting for scum to join you and I and lynch lalight.

PoE. And the thing about how scum has played a good game, so we need to look for people who are playing well right now, not people playing poorly.

Who do you think is the team?

PPS, Robz, Faust >> PPS, Robz, Cuzz >>>>>>>>>> PPS, Robz, Ghacob >> PPS, Faust, Cuzz
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1501 on: March 14, 2018, 12:21:01 pm »

woah iguana where did this mcmc has been scummy thing come from? We both pushed lalight which unfortunately flipped town. I actually do not think I have played a bad game, I for once don't wish I pushed harder day one, I pushed as hard as I could against the awful galz and clem wagons. Day two my reads were destroyed by the pps claim/space result, and day three I really thought lalight was scummy, I even continued doing rereads and worked up a ghacob case yesterday while everyone was doing nothing waiting for scum to join you and I and lynch lalight.

PoE. And the thing about how scum has played a good game, so we need to look for people who are playing well right now, not people playing poorly.

Who do you think is the team?

PPS, Robz, Faust >> PPS, Robz, Cuzz >>>>>>>>>> PPS, Robz, Ghacob >> PPS, Faust, Cuzz

Your brother is like so town. Tell me, tell me how is he possibly scum.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1502 on: March 14, 2018, 12:24:59 pm »

PPS, RobzMcMc, Faust >> PPS, RobzMcMc, Cuzz >>>>>>>>>> PPS, RobzMcMc, Ghacob >> PPS, Faust, Cuzz

Right now I can switch Robz out for McMc and those guesses make a lot more sense to me.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 2)
« Reply #1503 on: March 14, 2018, 12:26:05 pm »

Post Count Part 3

223 - 157 - 119 - faust (2)
241 - 157 - 84 - iguanaiguana (2)
116 - 89 - 56 - mcmcsalot (5)
111 - 83 - 75 - Cuzz (2)
108 - 65 - 30 - Robz888 (2)
87 - 75 - 44 - pingpongsam (2)
50 - 39 - 27 - Teproc/Ghacob (1)
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1504 on: March 14, 2018, 12:29:10 pm »

PPS, RobzMcMc, Faust >> PPS, RobzMcMc, Cuzz >>>>>>>>>> PPS, RobzMcMc, Ghacob >> PPS, Faust, Cuzz

Right now I can switch Robz out for McMc and those guesses make a lot more sense to me.

This is silly, PPS, Mcmc, Faust, pps scum results cuzz and we win, PPS, Mcmc, cuzz/Ghacob PPS scum results faust and we win no way we go through the wasted time of bussing.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1505 on: March 14, 2018, 12:31:40 pm »

PPS, RobzMcMc, Faust >> PPS, RobzMcMc, Cuzz >>>>>>>>>> PPS, RobzMcMc, Ghacob >> PPS, Faust, Cuzz

Right now I can switch Robz out for McMc and those guesses make a lot more sense to me.

This is silly, PPS, Mcmc, Faust, pps scum results cuzz and we win, PPS, Mcmc, cuzz/Ghacob PPS scum results faust and we win no way we go through the wasted time of bussing.

I guess Robz would vote Cuzz if you three were the team.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1506 on: March 14, 2018, 12:32:39 pm »

Oh we should keep in mind TWM Jailkept cuzz night one and robz night two but PPS has certaintly been doing the nightkill
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1507 on: March 14, 2018, 12:37:21 pm »

Okay, McMc, that is the first good point I've seen in a while for why someone should be considered town. Can you please explain to me why you think Robz is scum though?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1508 on: March 14, 2018, 12:39:41 pm »

Maybe it's PPS, Faust, Ghacob?

I noticed a while ago that Ghacob was reading the thread but not posting. I was waiting to see his posts but now it looks like he's lurking, which could be a little scummy.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1509 on: March 14, 2018, 12:40:21 pm »

Honestly part of my townread on Ghacob has just been because TWM was SO DAMN SURE he was town.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1510 on: March 14, 2018, 12:41:56 pm »

Hi I'm here. The majority of my time has been catching up, followed by a bit of time spent trying to think of what I want to say
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1511 on: March 14, 2018, 12:42:04 pm »

okay, it's gotta be PPS, Faust, and Robz unless town really really screwed the pooch, if thats the team day one faust ends on clem and pps on galz which faust was on but eventually moved to clem, robz sat on space sheeping me, day two robz and pps are on day three faust and pps are on.

Day 3 is interesting as if I assume iguana is town as I do, pss and faust are the only potential non town on wagon. if faust is town that means cuzz has to be scum or else there was zero scum on the day one wagon and only one scum on the day 3 wagon
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1512 on: March 14, 2018, 12:46:24 pm »

no but give a real case on Robz, not just "he's scum he's scum."
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1513 on: March 14, 2018, 12:47:56 pm »

Okay, McMc, that is the first good point I've seen in a while for why someone should be considered town. Can you please explain to me why you think Robz is scum though?

Because Robz has been useless. I will be honest part of me finds robz scummy because I will be furious to lose to scum!robz here the "i'm useless so I'm town" meta is obnoxious. Then there is the fact that robz had to change the way he acted towards me as scum because in smash bros mafia I caught him right out of the gate because he was too suspicious of me. It would fit that robz would want to buddy me ever so slightly this game so as not to tip me off hence his joining me in voting space day one. He has since pretty much said that I am scum and PPS is town but keeps not wanting to commit to why or that its a strong read, instead he keeps bringing up that he's more confident that faust is scum, though he has also said he is sure that cuzz is scum. Those are pretty strong reads outside the cop one for one for someone who hasn't given much of reads all game.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1514 on: March 14, 2018, 12:48:24 pm »

It's faust and mcmc for sure, scum number three is the tough one. Probably is Cuzz, could actually be Ghacob maybe, even.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1515 on: March 14, 2018, 12:51:09 pm »

Iguana if you have a second, control find rob posts and see anything he has said about pps which has made him so certain I am scum and pps is town all the sudden
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1516 on: March 14, 2018, 12:52:44 pm »

IDK you guys are both convincing it's pretty terrible, whichever one is currently talking is the one making the most sense.

It's hilarious to think of the two of you on vacation together though and you both sat down on separate computers to madly type on behalf of the other's lynch and your own defense.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1517 on: March 14, 2018, 12:54:25 pm »

Also @Faust can you show me who the scum team is really? Like figure out the game and make it make sense to me. If you are town, I feel like you would be able to do this by now.
I don't think I have the time and motivation to do this. But I'm coming around to mcmc being town. That would make my scumteam PPS/Robz/Cuzz.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1518 on: March 14, 2018, 12:54:54 pm »

Robz can you address how if PPS is town scum would totally redirect him or roleblock him or investigate and know to kill him and the fact that they've done none of these things means that he's basically living confirmed scum?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1519 on: March 14, 2018, 12:57:31 pm »

Also @Faust can you show me who the scum team is really? Like figure out the game and make it make sense to me. If you are town, I feel like you would be able to do this by now.
I don't think I have the time and motivation to do this. But I'm coming around to mcmc being town. That would make my scumteam PPS/Robz/Cuzz.

That's kinda lame. Don't you have til Friday?
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1520 on: March 14, 2018, 12:59:05 pm »

Also @Faust can you show me who the scum team is really? Like figure out the game and make it make sense to me. If you are town, I feel like you would be able to do this by now.
I don't think I have the time and motivation to do this. But I'm coming around to mcmc being town. That would make my scumteam PPS/Robz/Cuzz.

That's kinda lame. Don't you have til Friday?
Yeah but I'm pretty busy tomorrow and I leave Friday morning.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1521 on: March 14, 2018, 01:02:39 pm »

well everyone has posted, and McMc and PPS are still alive. So at least we can rule out town!PPS got redirected onto scum after copping town!PPS. One of them is scum. I think I am going to vote PPS still.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1522 on: March 14, 2018, 01:02:58 pm »

well everyone has posted, and McMc and PPS are still alive. So at least we can rule out town!PPS got redirected onto scum after copping town!PPSMcMc. One of them is scum. I think I am going to vote PPS still.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1523 on: March 14, 2018, 01:15:42 pm »

But, since you asked nicely, let's take a look at Cuzz. Picking Cuzz because that's really the weakest read here.

There is almost always scum among the lurkiest people in the game so I’m looking at Clemens, LL and I guess ii (again) at this point.
Notable omission of Robz here.

Would lynch today: SirClemens, LL, Datswan, Robz, pps, maybe Space
Would not lynch today: mcmc, TWM, ii, Galz, faust, Teproc
Look at me throwing in my scumpartners to "would lynch" at a time when they certainly won't be lynched!

Very unlikely I'll be around for deadline. I think I like Vote: DatSwan best. No real reason, I just think so many others are reading town.

This is such anti-town garbage and seriously looks a lot like scum!Robz leaning a little too hard into the faust quote from his signature to try to seem like lackluster town!Robz.
Hedge hedge.

Just to be clear about my vote, I think you are all scum. I'm not getting a town read on anyone at all. So, I'm pretty happy voting Galzria but if we need a final vote to push something through at the end of the day I'll be glad to add a hammer to my collection.

Oh good heavens Vote: pps
Now I found a stupid reason to leave the lynch wagon and place my vote on a scumpartner, but since my reason is so stupid noone will actually follow.

And then Clemens' self-vote gives Cuzz an excuse to push his case hard. That is a terrible reason.

Robz flying way under the radar all game is perhaps most suspicious to me. Teproc seemed townish D1 but has also been kind of in the "just active enough" zone that he definitely could be scum

I think pps should fullclaim. If he is town, then scum already has enough info to want to off him soon and I don't see how it helps us to keep being cagey about it.
"Perhaps" Robz is most suspicious, but no follow-up vote. The talk about PPS is super easy to fake if this was premeditated.

I cannot fathom what you possibly could think you’ve discovered although I can fathom why you might tease a fake result on someone with a somewhat substantial D1 wagon, and then withhold a claim until you’ve outed two PRs.

Vote: TWM
Spotted an opening to get a town PR lynched!


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PPS is acting a lot a lot like a scum rolecop and LL is acting like his partner.

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That said, what's the difference between a scum rolecop and a town cop behavior?

Oh sweet goodness this is some scummy whatnot. I think II may be onto something here. Vote: pps
Looks like a "crap they figured us out" overreaction.

I mean it all fits well. Admittedly I haven't tried very hard to see if Cuzz could be town, but there are no red flags that make my scumteam proposal impossible.
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Re: M113: sufjan stevens (day 4)
« Reply #1524 on: March 14, 2018, 01:16:23 pm »

well everyone has posted, and McMc and PPS are still alive. So at least we can rule out town!PPS got redirected onto scum after copping town!PPS. One of them is scum. I think I am going to vote PPS still.
We could even do that beforehand because there can be no Redirectors!
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