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[mcmcsalot]

I think I can be treated as an IC at this point

Can you explain why?

Because to be scum PPS and I would need to have been scum together. If that was the case, a scum result on you/cuzz/robz depending on who our third partner would be probably ends the game yesterday in a victory. It took 4 to lynch so it only would have taken one townie to believe. (This made me realize something awesome more on that later*) I think if pps and I were both scum, I absolutely would not have fought so so hard while on vacation and gotten pps lynched, sure it results in me being basically an IC today as I claimed, but I feel like the plan would have been to continue vacationing, put up a bit of a fight, fall on my sword, then still nk ghacob the doctor because he would most likely doc the confirmed correct cop, and then pps opens today with a scum result on town and scum wins. Getting PPS lynched if I am scum would now require me to just convince a town member to vote for another town member which is much more difficult than being able to claim a result.

In summary, PPS/MCMC scumteam would have claimed a scum result on town yesterday and if we did decide to pull a crazy gambit would have had PPS live so he could claim a scum result on town today. It is vastly more likely scum pps claimed a scum result on town!mcmc to try and win the game.

[mcmcsalot]

Vote count 4.2

mcmcsalot (1): pingpongsam
pingpongsam (1): mcmcsalot
Cuzz (1): faust
faust (1): Cuzz

not voting (3): Robz888, Ghacob, iguanaiguana

with 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. day 4 ends monday, march 19th at 13:00 forum time.

mod notes

So I realized I think we can get more out of the votes yesterday than I thought. This happens, with faust first voting cuzz and then cuzz voting faust. Iguana votes faust and PPS joins with a naked vote. 14 min go by and iguana unvotes, 16 min later robz shows up. There is almost no chance that a scum team of PPS/Cuzz/Faust does this. It means town!robz could have lynched scum!faust, and pps would have the same dilemma vs me today except he would need to explain why he risked lynching faust over me his confirmed scum read. PPS simply would not have changed a vote off of me whom he claimed to have a result on to vote faust unless it was going for the win. That was kind of the nail in the coffin for pps to get lynched and again I don't see why he does that at all if faust is his partner.

Town!faust worried he will be lynched knows he is town, assumes ghacob is town, assumes iguana is town, and assumes one of mcmc/pps is town so voting cuzz is not the riskiest of plays. It creates a one vs one scenario that now that ghacob is dead and iguana still assumed town isolates the remaining scum of robz. Scum!Faust just advocates for my lynch yesterday instead of doing any of this.


I think I am ready to go Robz then Cuzz. Iguana if you are ready as well I think we can get this game over with and see if we got it right.

[mcmcsalot]

If faust is scum, mvp performance to him. He was just so towny yesterday, reacted quite neutral to the pps claim, stated he found us both scummy so he wasn't sure what to think and that he was suprised pps didn't have a result on him. Slowly came around to finding me towny after asking some questions. Helped out by creating the grouping of him and cuzz after posting many reads about poe and showing he had been thinking about who could be scum left based on who he believes is town. Its just a really really townie approach and isn't the route I would expect scum to take for the win at all.

[Cuzz]

heyo I just had a very long day of grading exams and am heading to bed soon

This looks like signalling availability for a quickhammer.

Who do you even think the scumteam is for this to make sense?

[Cuzz]

Vote: faust if Robz wants to bus his partner out of the gate and try to win tomorrow I am happy to let him help us survive another day, but I’m confident enough that I really don’t care whether we lynch faust or Robz today

[Robz888]

Unvote

[Robz888]

Because now I'm confused.

[mcmcsalot]

Aww look at you two being all cute and trying to act like you're not on a team.

[Robz888]

Aww look at you two being all cute and trying to act like you're not on a team.

I can't wait to berate you for getting this so wrong.

[Robz888]

But yes, my confusion is that it doesn't make a lot of sense to me if Cuzz and faust are on a team for Cuzz to vote faust here, when the win is within reach if Cuzz just votes for me.

Cuzz! Who do you think is scum? Faust and... iguana?

[Robz888]

And iguana, I remember yesterday you were desperate to keep alive the possibility that mcmc and PPS were BOTH scum? I said that was stupid, but what do I know (absolutely nothing!). What changed?

[Cuzz]

But yes, my confusion is that it doesn't make a lot of sense to me if Cuzz and faust are on a team for Cuzz to vote faust here, when the win is within reach if Cuzz just votes for me.

Cuzz! Who do you think is scum? Faust and... iguana?

heyo I just had a very long day of grading exams and am heading to bed soon, but with Ghacob as the NK I am like 95% sure that the team is faust and Robz. Robz trying to shift the lynch from one of his partners to the other at the end of the day even after pps was confirmed scum was super weird and made no sense from a town perspective.

[iguanaiguana]

If faust is scum, mvp performance to him. He was just so towny yesterday, reacted quite neutral to the pps claim, stated he found us both scummy so he wasn't sure what to think and that he was suprised pps didn't have a result on him. Slowly came around to finding me towny after asking some questions. Helped out by creating the grouping of him and cuzz after posting many reads about poe and showing he had been thinking about who could be scum left based on who he believes is town. Its just a really really townie approach and isn't the route I would expect scum to take for the win at all.

Yeah I'm ready to vote both of them.

[iguanaiguana]

Vote: Robz

[Robz888]

Vote: Faust

[mcmcsalot]

vote: robz

[Cuzz]

vote: Robz

[mcmcsalot]

was i wrong?

[Robz888]

was i wrong?

Yep! I'm town. You blew it.

[mcmcsalot]

was i wrong?

Yep! I'm town. You blew it.

please be trolling please be trolling, please be trolling

[Robz888]

Not trolling. Iguana's quickhammer conspiracy was completely wrong. I am town. I assume it's faust and Cuzz.

[mcmcsalot]

Not trolling. Iguana's quickhammer conspiracy was completely wrong. I am town. I assume it's faust and Cuzz.

Well faust played a fantastic game then. He was just so towny. You really need to do more than sheep me for two days and then be super hedgy when someone claims a cop result on me.

[mcmcsalot]

I actually think if you are town its iguana and cuzz and i'm super super thrilled to have lost to a wonderully played scumguana

[Robz888]

No it's faust you fool, I've been saying this for days.

[Robz888]

Not trolling. Iguana's quickhammer conspiracy was completely wrong. I am town. I assume it's faust and Cuzz.

Well faust played a fantastic game then. He was just so towny. You really need to do more than sheep me for two days and then be super hedgy when someone claims a cop result on me.

I mean, I'm not going to pledge not to hedge, I was legitimately conflicted on which of you is town.