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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2017, 03:10:01 am »
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Ferry.  Plan.

Ferry works in the way that Alms works, by having a similar effect without technically working. Plan doesn't work at all? Unless you just mean that it lets you do something different/new on the first 2 turns.. but it doesn't change what you can afford on turn 2.

Ferry lets you open 0/6 or 0/5.  Plan (and Bonfire, actually) don't change split values, but do change deck compositions after the first shuffle.
Every card you buy changes your deck composition after the first shuffle...
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2017, 10:22:16 am »
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Ferry.  Plan.

Ferry works in the way that Alms works, by having a similar effect without technically working. Plan doesn't work at all? Unless you just mean that it lets you do something different/new on the first 2 turns.. but it doesn't change what you can afford on turn 2.

Ferry lets you open 0/6 or 0/5.  Plan (and Bonfire, actually) don't change split values, but do change deck compositions after the first shuffle.
Every card you buy changes your deck composition after the first shuffle...

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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2017, 01:04:25 pm »
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If you start with 2 coin your next hand has 5 coin. If you start with 5 coin your next hand has two coin. Seems consistent.

My take is that this is true whenever it is true, and false whenever it is false.

But if the antecedent is false then I would actually call it "vacuously true"

(...Making obscure references to a thread that you accidentally ruined by bringing up the philosophy of mathematics before it got heated and Donald X had to move it to RSP is how you make friends, right?)
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2017, 01:06:31 pm »
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To the OP: is there perhaps a corollary to this argument that you would like to make? Hint hint, it relates to starting with 3 or 4 coins instead.
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2017, 11:49:18 am »
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Remember that Platinum/Platinum was a popular opening on isotropic for a few hours.

What?
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2017, 11:57:58 am »
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Remember that Platinum/Platinum was a popular opening on isotropic for a few hours.

What?

Remember that Platinum/Platinum was a popular opening on isotropic for a few hours.
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2017, 12:06:32 pm »
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Remember that Platinum/Platinum was a popular opening on isotropic for a few hours.

What?

Remember that Platinum/Platinum was a popular opening on isotropic for a few hours.

No, I don't understand; I don't think I was there for that
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2017, 12:10:56 pm »
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Remember that Platinum/Platinum was a popular opening on isotropic for a few hours.

What?

Remember that Platinum/Platinum was a popular opening on isotropic for a few hours.

No, I don't understand; I don't think I was there for that

The checking of whether or not you had enough money to buy something was initially done client-side on Isotropic, until someone was able to abuse that to open Platinum/Platinum and then it was changed to server-side. (IIRC)
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2017, 03:48:38 pm »
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Remember that Platinum/Platinum was a popular opening on isotropic for a few hours.

What?

Remember that Platinum/Platinum was a popular opening on isotropic for a few hours.

No, I don't understand; I don't think I was there for that

The checking of whether or not you had enough money to buy something was initially done client-side on Isotropic, until someone was able to abuse that to open Platinum/Platinum and then it was changed to server-side. (IIRC)

It's a pretty colossal failure of the imagination to use an infinite money cheat to buy a card that gives you money.
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2017, 04:44:10 pm »
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Remember that Platinum/Platinum was a popular opening on isotropic for a few hours.

What?

Remember that Platinum/Platinum was a popular opening on isotropic for a few hours.

No, I don't understand; I don't think I was there for that

The checking of whether or not you had enough money to buy something was initially done client-side on Isotropic, until someone was able to abuse that to open Platinum/Platinum and then it was changed to server-side. (IIRC)

It's a pretty colossal failure of the imagination to use an infinite money cheat to buy a card that gives you money.

It’s like the Dire Straits song. I never understood what advantage there was to getting chicks for free; if you were also getting money for nothing.
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2017, 05:33:05 pm »
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It’s like the Dire Straits song. I never understood what advantage there was to getting chicks for free; if you were also getting money for nothing.

There's a certain social stigma attached to getting chicks for money.
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2017, 06:14:12 pm »
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It’s like the Dire Straits song. I never understood what advantage there was to getting chicks for free; if you were also getting money for nothing.

There's a certain social stigma attached to getting chicks for money.

This. But I was right there with you, Gendo. It’s a weird juxtaposition in the song.
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2017, 08:27:16 pm »
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Given the song's premise, and indeed origin, it doesn't have to make sense. It's based on the not entirely coherent mutterings of a blue-collar guy he encountered by the televisions in a department store.
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2017, 01:57:30 am »
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It’s like the Dire Straits song. I never understood what advantage there was to getting chicks for free; if you were also getting money for nothing.

There's a certain social stigma attached to getting chicks for money.
There's usually some cost, still. It just isn't always a direct transaction.
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2017, 07:04:22 am »
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It’s like the Dire Straits song. I never understood what advantage there was to getting chicks for free; if you were also getting money for nothing.

There's a certain social stigma attached to getting chicks for money.
There's usually some cost, still. It just isn't always a direct transaction.

This is an oddly... transactional? view of interpersonal relationships. “Let’s do the cost benefit analysis of human interaction”
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2017, 09:08:36 am »
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It’s like the Dire Straits song. I never understood what advantage there was to getting chicks for free; if you were also getting money for nothing.

There's a certain social stigma attached to getting chicks for money.
There's usually some cost, still. It just isn't always a direct transaction.

Yes it’s kinda like that other Dire Straits song:
When you can fall for chains of silver you can fall for chains of gold
You can fall for pretty strangers and the promises they hold
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2017, 09:30:38 am »
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It’s like the Dire Straits song. I never understood what advantage there was to getting chicks for free; if you were also getting money for nothing.

There's a certain social stigma attached to getting chicks for money.
There's usually some cost, still. It just isn't always a direct transaction.

Yes it’s kinda like that other Dire Straits song:
When you can fall for chains of silver you can fall for chains of gold
You can fall for pretty strangers and the promises they hold

Oh, hey, The Killers covered this on an acoustic album. I didn't know it was originally a Dire Straits song.
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2017, 09:52:56 am »
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So, did the players who used client side checks to buy Platinum for nothing also use the client side checks to buy Harem for nothing?  This has become important.  Can anyone check the councilroom logs and count the "Harem/Harem" openings?

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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2017, 10:40:57 am »
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It’s like the Dire Straits song. I never understood what advantage there was to getting chicks for free; if you were also getting money for nothing.

There's a certain social stigma attached to getting chicks for money.
There's usually some cost, still. It just isn't always a direct transaction.

Yes it’s kinda like that other Dire Straits song:
When you can fall for chains of silver you can fall for chains of gold
You can fall for pretty strangers and the promises they hold

To keep the off-topic going, I always forget that this is a Dire Straits song, because I heard the Indigo Girls' version first. I didn't know it was a cover until a long time later.
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Re: The 5/2 rule
« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2017, 07:33:17 pm »
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With 5/2 or 2/5, it's a good time for Baths
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