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[Swowl]

Headache’s do what exactly? So far as we know... absolutely nothing? Useful.

you are assuming that the thing that multiple players have said to have in the game does... nothing?

like I get your point that we have no data on them... but, I can't bring myself to assume they are irrelevant.

[faust]

Vote: Didds

[faust]

It's also worth noting that my last name is Mason-Glass. There is a possibility that I am the potential third Mason. I didn't really think so and don't quite now, but some things about Eddie, the other prime candidate for that spot, make me doubtful.

[Galzria]

Well, Faust, it’s worth considering that there might be a passive freeing mechanism goin in here that scum know about. Plus there’s the fact you haven’t been doctoring for whatever reason.

Well sure, but that's a massive stretch. I'm sorry that I feel reluctant to Doctor someone if all it accomplishes is to make a mislynch more likely when I could be doing something else instead. I might have felt compelled to doctor joth/Galzria if they hadn't pushed for my lynch all game.

So you would rather be petulant than potentially helpful?

No, and I don't see how you infer this from my post.

“I might have felt compelled to Doctor an IC if they hadn’t pushed for my lynch all game.”

Boo-freaking-hoo bro. Get over yourself. You were hands down the scummiest person off the EFHW wagon and almost literally the only person to put any real effort into derailing it. And yet we STILL pursued other lynches over yours first, despite the fact that we both thought you were scum. You’re still alive, and many others are not. So get off your high horse and stop acting like you’re the only person in this game we’ve suspected.

The “facts” are that you, a claimed Doctor, have protected and have attempted to protect zero confirmed IC’s because, what, your feelings were hurt?

[faust]

The “facts” are that you, a claimed Doctor, have protected and have attempted to protect zero confirmed IC’s because, what, your feelings were hurt?

No, because it was likely to lead to a mislynch. Mislynches are bad for town, you know.

[Swowl]

Vote: Didds

from my pov this is the way to go (plus Awaclus, I can't decide). unless Eddie, ADK, Faust, PPS contain all three skum, there is at least one skum that was on wagon day 1. if we lynch on wagon today, even if we are wrong, we force skums NK option at night (assuming that all skum was not off wagon).

TLDR - we can literally force skum to create a better poe for us by lynching an on wagon player today.

[faust]

Boo-freaking-hoo bro. Get over yourself. You were hands down the scummiest person off the EFHW wagon and almost literally the only person to put any real effort into derailing it. And yet we STILL pursued other lynches over yours first, despite the fact that we both thought you were scum. You’re still alive, and many others are not. So get off your high horse and stop acting like you’re the only person in this game we’ve suspected.

So your theory is that I was throwing everything at stopping an EFHW lynch... while my two partners were pushing it?

[Swowl]

Vote: Didds

from my pov this is the way to go (plus Awaclus, I can't decide). unless Eddie, ADK, Faust, PPS contain all three skum, there is at least one skum that was on wagon day 1. if we lynch on wagon today, even if we are wrong, we force skums NK option at night (assuming that all skum was not off wagon).

TLDR - we can literally force skum to create a better poe for us by lynching an on wagon player today.

or of course if we get it right it doesn't help poe... but still we get got skum so I feel like it is worth it in that case.

[Swowl]

Boo-freaking-hoo bro. Get over yourself. You were hands down the scummiest person off the EFHW wagon and almost literally the only person to put any real effort into derailing it. And yet we STILL pursued other lynches over yours first, despite the fact that we both thought you were scum. You’re still alive, and many others are not. So get off your high horse and stop acting like you’re the only person in this game we’ve suspected.

So your theory is that I was throwing everything at stopping an EFHW lynch... while my two partners were pushing it?

why couldn't your partner(s) be eddie, adk, pps?

[Galzria]

The “facts” are that you, a claimed Doctor, have protected and have attempted to protect zero confirmed IC’s because, what, your feelings were hurt?

No, because it was likely to lead to a mislynch. Mislynches are bad for town, you know.

How does you doctoring lead to a mislynch?

Look, beyond the fact that you’ve not doctored any IC’s when you could’ve done... what you HAVE claimed to have done shows no positives for town whatsoever - and you can’t offer anything to show otherwise, right?

[pubby]

Galz did you receive anything or get a message last night?

[faust]

Boo-freaking-hoo bro. Get over yourself. You were hands down the scummiest person off the EFHW wagon and almost literally the only person to put any real effort into derailing it. And yet we STILL pursued other lynches over yours first, despite the fact that we both thought you were scum. You’re still alive, and many others are not. So get off your high horse and stop acting like you’re the only person in this game we’ve suspected.

So your theory is that I was throwing everything at stopping an EFHW lynch... while my two partners were pushing it?

why couldn't your partner(s) be eddie, adk, pps?

Well, Eddie we are supposing could have been the one to become the third Mason, so he would be town, and we haven't seen many other hopeful candidates for that spot. ADK is, flavor-wise, not very likely to be tied to the Espheni and much more likely to be tied to shraeye. PPS could be I guess, but that's only one.

[faust]

The “facts” are that you, a claimed Doctor, have protected and have attempted to protect zero confirmed IC’s because, what, your feelings were hurt?

No, because it was likely to lead to a mislynch. Mislynches are bad for town, you know.

How does you doctoring lead to a mislynch?

You/joth are forcing your will on town pretty hard on town, and you both scumread me, so you staying alive makes my mislynch significantly more likely. I mean, I would have loved to protect MiX, the IC who trusted me, but he was a Skitter.

Speaking of, if I were scum, wouldn't it make a lot of sense to take out the IC that is against me and keep the IC that is on my side alive?

[Galzria]

Swan, you don’t want to claim. But I assume that’s just kosher for scum. Why should I trust you’re town not wanting to claim and not scum?

[faust]

Look, beyond the fact that you’ve not doctored any IC’s when you could’ve done... what you HAVE claimed to have done shows no positives for town whatsoever - and you can’t offer anything to show otherwise, right?

Apart from Awaclus's role there is very little that roles can do that shows solid positives for town. I think my role does come pretty close, I do something that flavor heavily implies is a good thing for town. I have been affected by something that is most likely a scum power (in fact, two things, but I get that the second isn't confirmable at all). Glooble the dead townie has corroborated my claim. I'm not sure what more you're looking for.

[pubby]

How does Glooble being dead corroborate your claim?

[pubby]

vote: faust

[faust]

How does Glooble being dead corroborate your claim?

It is not he's being dead that corroborates it, it is the fact that he said the role I claimed makes a lot of sense with his role, and the fact that he's dead that means we can trust him.

[Galzria]

Look, beyond the fact that you’ve not doctored any IC’s when you could’ve done... what you HAVE claimed to have done shows no positives for town whatsoever - and you can’t offer anything to show otherwise, right?

Apart from Awaclus's role there is very little that roles can do that shows solid positives for town. I think my role does come pretty close, I do something that flavor heavily implies is a good thing for town. I have been affected by something that is most likely a scum power (in fact, two things, but I get that the second isn't confirmable at all). Glooble the dead townie has corroborated my claim. I'm not sure what more you're looking for.

So... whatcha think:

A) Releasing Children does (no use that we’ve seen so far)
B) Receiving a Headache does (no use that we’ve seen so far)

[pubby]

unvote

faust does your doctor ability even protect against NK? Or is it protection against something else?

[Swowl]

Swan, you don’t want to claim. But I assume that’s just kosher for scum. Why should I trust you’re town not wanting to claim and not scum?

I have nothing for this.

I will claim if demanded of me.

When I claim, we will learn nothing. If I had a result of some sort on skum obv I would of said something.

With my claim comes... the claim. Which will inherently give skum information to take action in the upcoming nights.

I don't have a better way of putting this. I can't even half claim. I mean I can, but the parts I can claim without giving info away just literally mean nothing.

[Galzria]

Faust, is Swan town?

[Uncleeurope]

Here's the thing, if Faust is town he could win us the game, so let's just chill on lynching him for a bit.

[Galzria]

Here's the thing, if Faust is town he could win us the game, so let's just chill on lynching him for a bit.

That reasoning follows... how?

[Uncleeurope]

Faust, is Swan town?

Btw, when do we get to know your invest results? Or did you already say what they were?