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[pingpongsam]

What's the case?

What isn't the case?

Meh, okay, how about the fact I requested an item? I've seen zero discussion surrounding that which suggests that maybe I'm alone in needing that item. Who is holding it and why was it not given to me? I have my suspicions on who is holding it and even why they didn't/couldn't send it. Without it I am probably the best mislynch we can have, since my power is fairly mundane otherwise. With the item, well, I'd suggest lynching elsewhere.

Why can't scum request items?

Better question; why haven’t they? I’m getting the sense I may be the only one who needs an item to enable a power or else there would have been more discussion. I am assuming town holds it as I can’t see any logical means of acquiring it from scum. I also assume that town has good reason to not publicly claim having it. It’s not immediately apparent to me how else to acquire it without bringing it up. If scum knew to request an item and I were that scum then there would be a town counterclaim at this point which is precisely why I came out of the gate talking about items.

[MiX]

@MiX, you've said/implied a bunch of times that a big upside you see from lynching me is wagon PoE. I'm really curious what you think you'll get out of me flipping, because I've coloured myself green on all my VCA lists and I'm still not hitting on anything that's particularly compelling, beyond my suspicion of that D1 Joth wagon. Could you give a couple of examples of where specifically having me flipped is good for your analysis? You can specify it either way if you like, but I can guarantee I'm flipping green.

Sadly I'm away for a couple of days, so I can't show you examples, but I'm assuming "at least 1 scum was on my wagon" and "at least 1 scum voted for Galzria after EFHW did" and you're essencially the only one that fits both.

That was most of it, even when I removed those shraeye appeared with you as one of two possible partners. Or something.

[Awaclus]

Better question; why haven’t they?

That's a worse question because we don't know that they haven't.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.21:

PPS (5): Uncle, Datswan, Awaclus, pubby, ADK
shraeye (4): Faust, MiX, Glooble, Galzria
Space (1): PPS

Not Voting (4): WCD, Space, shraeye, joth

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.  Day 2 ends at 10:00 p.m. on August 12.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I'm down for that too

vote:shraeye

[A Drowned Kernel]

vote: shraeye phone posting

[MiX]

I think, at this moment, everyone has claimed something...except shraeye and Swan. Am I wrong?

Therefore they're scum. 

[Glooble]

I think, at this moment, everyone has claimed something...except shraeye and Swan. Am I wrong?

Therefore they're scum. 

I don't think Didds has claimed anything.

[MiX]

I think, at this moment, everyone has claimed something...except shraeye and Swan. Am I wrong?

Therefore they're scum. 

I don't think Didds has claimed anything.

I always forget about her. Thanks.

[Uncleeurope]

PPS could be third party as well, in theory.

[Uncleeurope]

Fine, I’m TRing him, but I always do.

Vote: Shraeye

[pingpongsam]

Fine, I’m TRing him, but I always do.

Vote: Shraeye

L-1!

[faust]

Fine, I’m TRing him, but I always do.

Vote: Shraeye

L-1!

I don't think so.

[Galzria]

Fine, I’m TRing him, but I always do.

Vote: Shraeye

L-1!

I don't think so.

L-2

[jotheonah]

Well this is building uncomfortably fast, but then I did say scum would bus today.

[WestCoastDidds]

Good morning....I just got here and need to get caught up. Gimme a few minutes.

I am okay with shraeye, but want to see who else is voting for him

[Glooble]

Well this is building uncomfortably fast, but then I did say scum would bus today.

I don't think its that uncomfortable when you consider we have less than 12 hours to deadline. And it's not like its coming out of nowhere. Shraeye's been in the mix for a while.

[pingpongsam]

Fine, I’m TRing him, but I always do.

Vote: Shraeye

L-1!

I don't think so.

L-2

You're right. The back to back ADK votes tripped me up.

Vote: shraeye should tidy that up.

L-1

[Uncleeurope]

We should let him claim, if able, no?

[jotheonah]

We should let him claim, if able, no?

We should. We have time. And I can be the hammer if needed. I'll be around until at least 4 hours before deadline.

[Uncleeurope]

Do we know why Galz mentioned Daychat back in the day by the day?

Because with Daychat I can imagine a double-bus

[Swowl]

Unvote

Just to be safe for a sec - not 100% sure what’s going on. Catching up while driving.

[WestCoastDidds]

Okay, caught up...and since then Shraeye is at L-1 so I"ll wait to vote until he's claimed.  Or Joth can do it, whatevs. I'll be around this evening.

I prefer a lynch to no lynch, and think there is a good chance that he is the off-wagon scum considering how we have narrowed the pool, but I am not entirely sold on the goodness of ADK and am curious about what bad/good things happen when Eddie dies.

I haven't claimed anything and it doesn't seem like a good idea to do that since there are precious few interactions that haven't been revealed yet. Town seems super strong to me with the pile of conf!town folks, so I am a bit wary of some of the results we are getting. I am especially wary of the MiX result that Galz got.

One thing that I think I can share that might be useful to think about during the night...I had a headache on D1. I don't know what it means or what it did, or how faust (or the friend he is asking for) ended up with it today. 

[faust]

One thing that I think I can share that might be useful to think about during the night...I had a headache on D1. I don't know what it means or what it did, or how faust (or the friend he is asking for) ended up with it today.

Why did you not share this before?

[shraeye]

Galzria needs to wake up to the fact that he's the fool at some point. If that takes my lynch, it's not ideal, but also not the end of the world. I just wish anyone would actually spend some time thinking about the reasons I laid out for why it doesn't make sense for me to behave this way as scum.

Agree.  Galz (and othgers) keep putting out VCA buckets or just suspicion-buckets that seem totally misguided to me.  Maybe that's because I'm not a big one for building suspicion based on votes alone.  Votes are easy to throw around. 

I think at some point Galz had ordered a hit on Eddie (town, ironically nearly a mason with Galz) and had as a backup shoot one of e/shraeye/pubby.  Faust keeps making appearances in similar suspicion lists.

E wasn't scum, I'm an incredibly bad lynch for town, there's no way pubby is an EFHW partner based on everything he's posted, faust is at least 95% nonsuspicious.

Stop hijacking common sense.