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[MiX]

I also know nothing about E's role(s).

[jotheonah]

unvote

faust is (A) maybe a doctor and (B) maybe going to die tonight anyway so I think I can find it in my heart not to kill him today.

I really, really hate caving to AtE arguments for precedent-setting reasons, so I want to stress that none of that swayed me here.

now I have to figure out where else to put my vote.

[pubby]

vote: PPS

Dunno if I'll be around for the deadline

[A Drowned Kernel]

I'm down for

vote: PPS

[faust]

I'm down for

vote: PPS

L-2

[faust]

For the record, I don't think ADK has told us the whole truth. He is most likely not Espheni-aligned, but I also doubt he's just a Dayvig Survivor.

[MiX]

For the record, I don't think ADK has told us the whole truth. He is most likely not Espheni-aligned, but I also doubt he's just a Dayvig Survivor.

Has anyone told the whole truth?

[faust]

For the record, I don't think ADK has told us the whole truth. He is most likely not Espheni-aligned, but I also doubt he's just a Dayvig Survivor.

Has anyone told the whole truth?

It's fine if people who are town-aligned withhold information, but I'm more wary of scum. For all we know, ADK could be third party who can't win with town.

[pingpongsam]

Damn, I wake up, catch up and see we've killed 3rd party and now have me at L-2.

What's the case?

Also, I see my vote got reset so, Vote: Space

[Awaclus]

What's the case?

What isn't the case?

[Glooble]

For the record, I don't think ADK has told us the whole truth. He is most likely not Espheni-aligned, but I also doubt he's just a Dayvig Survivor.

Honestly, he could even be a traitor.

[pingpongsam]

What's the case?

What isn't the case?

Meh, okay, how about the fact I requested an item? I've seen zero discussion surrounding that which suggests that maybe I'm alone in needing that item. Who is holding it and why was it not given to me? I have my suspicions on who is holding it and even why they didn't/couldn't send it. Without it I am probably the best mislynch we can have, since my power is fairly mundane otherwise. With the item, well, I'd suggest lynching elsewhere.

[jotheonah]

I too would like to see this PPS case that everyone's so into.

[MiX]

For the record, I don't think ADK has told us the whole truth. He is most likely not Espheni-aligned, but I also doubt he's just a Dayvig Survivor.

Honestly, he could even be a traitor.

Wow. Hey, since we're gunning for town (e, faust, now pps) could we kill ADK? Sadly I don't regain shots, but...

Or just Space/shraeye, that's good too.

[MiX]

I too would like to see this PPS case that everyone's so into.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.20:

faust (1): Galzria
PPS (6): Uncle, Datswan, Awaclus, Glooble, pubby, ADK
shraeye (1): Faust
Space (2): MiX, PPS

Not Voting (4): WCD, Space, shraeye, joth

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.  Day 2 ends at 10:00 p.m. on August 12.

[Awaclus]

What's the case?

What isn't the case?

Meh, okay, how about the fact I requested an item? I've seen zero discussion surrounding that which suggests that maybe I'm alone in needing that item. Who is holding it and why was it not given to me? I have my suspicions on who is holding it and even why they didn't/couldn't send it. Without it I am probably the best mislynch we can have, since my power is fairly mundane otherwise. With the item, well, I'd suggest lynching elsewhere.

Why can't scum request items?

[faust]

Wow. Hey, since we're gunning for town (e, faust, now pps) could we kill ADK? Sadly I don't regain shots, but...

Or just Space/shraeye, that's good too.

... e wasn't town. But okay, non-Espheni, which is what we're hunting for.

Lynching ADK isn't the worst thing to do here. However it gives nothing of value to analyze, so I'd prefer a shraeye lynch.

[Glooble]

I could do shraeye.

There are four players who were on the MiX wagon and off the EFHW wagon- PPS, pubby, ADK and Shraeye. I think there's scum in that group. Everyone seems to have decided it's not pubby, and ADK is off the table at least for now. So I'm good with PPS or shraeye. I don't honestly see MiX's case for PPS being town.

[MiX]

That's a solid shraeye case.

Vote: shraeye

[SpaceAnemone]

Space and Glooble have both made unprovoked claims to support other players, and that is always a pretty darn townie thing to me. I also think the way Space voted for EFHW was townie; scum would have owned that vote and not gone "well no other wagon will succeed". I am less townie on Glooble now that I know (more or less) that MiX is town!skitter, but Space's role seems to clear Glooble somehow, so there's that.

No, it doesn't. I made it explicitly clear that I have no information directly supporting the idea that Glooble is town:

That's a lot of words for "I know Glooble is town", why even mention anything other than this?

Your logic is flawed. I want to make it clear that I'm not saying I can vouch for Glooble's towniness.

... should I have bolded the "not" for extra emphasis?

This is what I had originally said:

Nothing in my role PM suggests the existence of a second Skitter, nor does it make it seem particularly unlikely. Space’s arguments for scum!MiX are making a certain amount of sense to me.

There's something in my role that does allow for the existence of fully-town-aligned Skitters. I don't know whether all Skitters are town-aligned, but I do know that at least one of them can be. It also seems like there can be more than one Skitter.

I feel like that's not a million miles away from what you said back here:

Fine. I have information available to me that strongly implies that there is at least one town-aligned Skitter.

-- that even made me wonder whether we were coming at this from a similar angle at the time, though I'm not sure, given other stuff you've said.

Entirely independently of Skitter stuff, I just find Glooble towny for his behaviour on the EFHW wagon, because without his refusal to vote for his twin, I would have probably made the wrong call when it came to deadline.

PPE several.

[Glooble]

Okey Dokey.

vote: shraeye

[Galzria]

vote: Shraeye

I’ve been down for that for some time.

[SpaceAnemone]

@MiX, you've said/implied a bunch of times that a big upside you see from lynching me is wagon PoE. I'm really curious what you think you'll get out of me flipping, because I've coloured myself green on all my VCA lists and I'm still not hitting on anything that's particularly compelling, beyond my suspicion of that D1 Joth wagon. Could you give a couple of examples of where specifically having me flipped is good for your analysis? You can specify it either way if you like, but I can guarantee I'm flipping green.

[faust]

Space and Glooble have both made unprovoked claims to support other players, and that is always a pretty darn townie thing to me. I also think the way Space voted for EFHW was townie; scum would have owned that vote and not gone "well no other wagon will succeed". I am less townie on Glooble now that I know (more or less) that MiX is town!skitter, but Space's role seems to clear Glooble somehow, so there's that.

No, it doesn't. I made it explicitly clear that I have no information directly supporting the idea that Glooble is town:

Do you or do you not know that there is a town-aligned skitter?