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[Galzria]

Sweet

[MiX]

So, e, claim to your heart's content! I'm waiting to see all the things you're omitting that I'll learn with my role...

[Swowl]

I wish i read all that backwards... would of been way faster.

I only get what is happening based on reading these convos so i wanna make sure i have everything straight...

1) Galz and Joth are ICs and Masons
2) Eddie is (assuming town) Maggie, and it seems that is a feasible thing based on Galz explanation when combined with ADK claim.
3) ADK is claimed survivor with a Vig shot
4) MiX is cleared by Galz as town barring some GF ability/item/etc.

I think that all checks out yes?

Ok here is the issue i am having with all this being true... keeping in mind i actually believe most of it, so if someone wants to throw some cents in that would be rad.

Here is Day 1 Final VC:

Day 1 Final Vote Count:

MiX (1): shraeye
EFHW (9): Galzria, WCD, Datswan, Awaclus, joth, Space, Glooble, MiX, 2.7
Galzria (1) EFHW
WCD (1): pubby
joth (3): ADK, faust, Uncle
faust (1): PPS

Not Voting (0):
With 16 alive, it took 9 to lynch.  Day 1 ended at 6:00 a.m. on July 31.

So what...  skum just wasn’t playing  wasn’t playing defense end of day 1?
If we assume ADK is survivor and Eddie is town, this essentially means that skum literally did nothing to create a viable defense for EFHW in the end. [Shraeye, Pubby, PPS, Faust] were the 4 off wagoners... and they were all on different wagons.

So if the town calls (or town/survivor calls i should say) are correct, we essentially have to choose between:

A) Skum being off wagon and not wanting to consolidate even at the expense of loosing EFHW.
- this theory pretty much means it would be exactly (assuming 4 skum) [1 on Joth, 1 bussing, 1 off, and EFHW].
-  So the busier and the off wagoner could of moved to the same wagon to swing it... but that would look super bad vca wise so i can see how this theory pans out.
- This would put the skum buckets as:
1 On Wagon [WCD, Swan, Awaclus, Space, Glooble]
1 Joth Wagon [Faust]
1 Off Wagons [Shraeye, Pubby, PPS]

B) Skum was double bussing Day 1 with another on Joth
- so the buckets would be:
2 in [WCD, Swan, Awaclus, Space, Glooble]
1 in [Faust]

C) Skum scattered, but none on Joth.
- Almost impossible IMO, would mean that skum did not try to play D at all. But it would assuredly be something like this for buckets:
2 in [WCD, Swan, Awaclus, Space, Glooble]
1 in [Shraeye, Pubby, PPS]


I am leaning pretty heavy on A.
So pretty much...
if ADK and Eddie are both telling the truth - Faust looks super suspicious... but then 1 of the other skum is still in the [Shraeye, Pubby, PPS] pool.
If one of them are lying, it could still be Faust, but more likely one in [Shraeye, Pubby, PPS].

As we are not going to have a super conclusive result on the town nature of ADK and Eddie right now... i think Shraeye, Pubby, PPS is a good place to look for now.

PPE E getting shot.

[Swowl]

You still want to lynch Eddie at this point?

I don't know why he's so trusted by Galzria. Sure, he guessed roles are in the game, but...

If Galz’s pm mentioned Maggie by name, I think that more or less clears Eddie.

I don’t believe this happened? If he thought ADK could of been the person back on day 1.

Galz - correct or no?

[Awaclus]

Vote: faust

[MiX]

I really don't like looking at the last vote count: it's missing votes prior to inevitability. There's a point where it's clear what the lynch is to scum, and from there on any votes are just for towncred. I would say that point was before/after Space's vote (before if you think they're scum, after if they're town), which is the part of the vote count I would look at.

I do understand how faust's scummy, it's why ADK voted faust at the start of D2, he clearly looks scummy by pushing non-EFHW wagon and sticking his vote to joth. This hasn't changed with all the IC business.

[pubby]

rooty tooty point and shoot e 

He's gonna flip before the day's over, right? I do not remember how day vigs work.

[Swowl]

I disagree completely regarding the assessment of the EOD VCA. It is not like skum thought they were getting lynched day 1, and Between Galz and Joth wagons it is a mystery to me how skum allowed one of their own to be lynched day 1... which probably means it caught them off guard. Because of that I think that info will be very important.

In regards to the town cred part, I agree with you in half sense - it is not because of the person that voted (Space) it’s because of the timing of their vote.
There were 150 posts, the Galz wagon, the continuing Joth wagon, and some attempts st other shit between the time Joth put EFHW at L-3 and Space put it to L-2. Also, during that time, it was 5-4 at multiple points. My “half agree” is because since we have not verified to 100% certainty that both the other wagons are town... i just don’t see any  of [Wcd, Swan, Awaclus] choosing not to push one of the other wagons as skum.

On the other hand i do totally agree with you that if Space is town there is probz skum for cred in Glooble, MiX, E!... so here’s to hoping E flips skum!

[Galzria]

rooty tooty point and shoot e 

+1,000,000,000,000

[SpaceAnemone]

I'm home and caught up. This game is moving fast, but I think we have Joth and Galz as ICs, with MiX and Eddie both as probable town.

The vague case I posted on Joth about 24 hours ago, which nobody commented on anyway also kind of works as a case on faust, regardless of e's alignment.

If e is town, there's quite a big early wagon on him where PPS is the only one whose alignment is unclaimed:
#465: 2.71828..... (5): Uncleeurope, Galzria, pingpongsam, A Drowned Kernel, jotheonah
EFHW does eventually move there, but then the wagon disintegrates as ADK moves to the big MiX wagon and Joth sheeps Galz on Swan.

Also if e is town, the Eddie wagon earlier in D2 makes it a bit likely that there's one scum in {faust, Awaclus}
#1084: Uncleeurope (5): faust, MiX, A Drowned Kernel, 2.71828....., Awaclus
Though if e is scum then under normal circumstances I'd say that Awaclus is less likely to be, though I'm not sure if Awaclus subscribes to normal circumstances as much as most.

I do think e has been sounding scummier in later posts, so him flipping scum would be great. I think that would make Awaclus and Glooble look more townie overall, though at least in the latter case, I think he looks pretty townie already.

PPE 2: I don't think Glooble is scum because without him EFHW really was unlikely to have been lynched. MiX seems to be playing townie at the moment.. which I hate to say with him voting me, but I can see why from a purely selfish "I want my wagons to tell me things" standpoint then having me green for sure is actually helpful to him. I'm much less convinced of Shraeye or PPS's excuses for being on there. Urgh.. I'm super-sleepy and rambling now. It must be morning in Mod-land by now, so hopefully there will be a flip soon...

[WestCoastDidds]

Holy cow! There’s like 8 pages of content...  e was shot? Does the day end now? I still have supper with fam and can’t catch up until tonight. Im used to the weekends being slow.

[ashersky]

A shot rang out, in broad daylight! Everyone dropped to the ground from instinct, heads covered.

A few moments later, they slowly stood up, cautious and surveying the situation. No one saw the origin of the shot, but eventually they found the destination.

2.7 has been shot in the face!  He was Alexis “Lexi” Glass-Mason, the Peace Bringer.

[A Drowned Kernel]

...okay?

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.15:

Not Voting (14): faust, Awaclus, joth, Galzria, WCD, PPS, Datswan, ADK, MiX, Space, Glooble, Uncleeurope, shraeye, pubby

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.  Day 2 ends at 10:00 p.m. on August 12.

[Glooble]

Two third parties?

[Swowl]

Seems that way - another Mason too.

She is like super human - rapid aging and like super strength/agility.
She blows up the bad guys in the show and then the bad guys clone her and send her to kill her dad.

So yeah - probably not the best death for us there.

[Uncleeurope]

Might not have 4 scum after all?

[jotheonah]

vote: faust

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.16:

faust (1): joth

Not Voting (13): faust, Awaclus, Galzria, WCD, PPS, Datswan, ADK, MiX, Space, Glooble, Uncleeurope, shraeye, pubby

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.  Day 2 ends at 10:00 p.m. on August 12.

[Swowl]

Might not have 4 scum after all?

Maybe? It sounds like a towny role though.

[Uncleeurope]

I dunno how I feel about Faust here.

Despite that wagon we have had Swowl and Space advocating for that mindset.

It feels weird.

That being said, he did fight for EFHW’s life...

[Uncleeurope]

Vote: PPS

[Glooble]

I'm happy to keep sheeping my IC brother and

vote: faust

You could sell me on pps or Space though.

[Uncleeurope]

Lynching me is also worth considering.

[pubby]

vote: faust