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[Uncleeurope]

If I reveal my own flavor you have to shoot me.

And it will inadvertently reveal the other two, I think.

I don’t know.

I have no idea what the flavor of this show is, and it is making this hard for me to gauge.

The good and bad things that happen later on are guaranteed to happen to the a different of my 2 names.

And it is random, so basically, it will drastically alter the power levels of the game if it happens based on random chance.

Unless they are both on he same team.

We’ve had two Skitters claim & not be killed, and a 3rd party claimed & not be killed.

Try me.

Look, either you claim, it satisfies belief and we shoot elsewhere, or you don’t claim and we shoot you. If you’re town your ONLY chance at survival is to claim your flavor name.

What if I don’t want to survive after my flavor is out?

If you’re town, that’s ridiculous.

Yup.

If I do a full claim I can guarantee my recommendation would be to shoot me.

My flavor is tied to my full claim.

Therefor I had to guard my claim’s contents and withhold my flavor name.

[Uncleeurope]

Yes they will know.

So you shouldn't claim, whoever knows they were tampered with are town.

If your flip PoEs the other 2 then you should just claim your own and leave the other ones semi-revealed.

There's random things in this game (Awaclus, my one role) so I believe it.

Can you claim your flavor now?

They won’t both know thy were tampered with.

What does this even meeeeean???

You're just delaying your death, that is all. Scum would do it.

One will know and one will not.

[Galzria]

If I reveal my own flavor you have to shoot me.

And it will inadvertently reveal the other two, I think.

I don’t know.

I have no idea what the flavor of this show is, and it is making this hard for me to gauge.

The good and bad things that happen later on are guaranteed to happen to the a different of my 2 names.

And it is random, so basically, it will drastically alter the power levels of the game if it happens based on random chance.

Unless they are both on he same team.

We’ve had two Skitters claim & not be killed, and a 3rd party claimed & not be killed.

Try me.

Look, either you claim, it satisfies belief and we shoot elsewhere, or you don’t claim and we shoot you. If you’re town your ONLY chance at survival is to claim your flavor name.

What if I don’t want to survive after my flavor is out?

If you’re town, that’s ridiculous.

Yup.

If I do a full claim I can guarantee my recommendation would be to shoot me.

My flavor is tied to my full claim.

Therefor I had to guard my claim’s contents and withhold my flavor name.

Then you’re dead.

I’ve got work to do. ADK, please vig Eddie when you get here.

[MiX]

Yes they will know.

So you shouldn't claim, whoever knows they were tampered with are town.

If your flip PoEs the other 2 then you should just claim your own and leave the other ones semi-revealed.

There's random things in this game (Awaclus, my one role) so I believe it.

Can you claim your flavor now?

They won’t both know thy were tampered with.

What does this even meeeeean???

You're just delaying your death, that is all. Scum would do it.

One will know and one will not.

Do you know which is the one that knows, or is it random? Is the unknown effect the positive or negative one?

[Uncleeurope]

I know which one will know. For the me dying part of my role, yes.

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Unvote

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Just because

[MiX]

I know which one will know. For the me dying part of my role, yes.

Then I think you should claim the flavor of the role that doesn't know something is happening to them. Galzria, do you approve this?

Does something always happen, or can nothing happen?

[Uncleeurope]

The e vig is the correct play here, I believe.

Sorry if I played that poorly.

I just figured the order of events I prefer is: not being lynched > me being lynched > me actually giving a helpful claim.

[Uncleeurope]

I know which one will know. For the me dying part of my role, yes.

Then I think you should claim the flavor of the role that doesn't know something is happening to them. Galzria, do you approve this?

Does something always happen, or can nothing happen?

Something always will happen.

[MiX]

The e vig is the correct play here, I believe.

Why?

[Uncleeurope]

The e vig is the correct play here, I believe.

Why?

He has a much higher chance of being scum than me.

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Galz, do you actually think I am scum here?

And I really just want to announce the stinking names, I think you are wrong and it will be helpful.

If you gave us your own flavor name I would encourage ADK to shoot his choice between e, Shraeye & pubby.

Hey now, that is random.

Why am I on this list?

You have been on a number of my questions to others since the Vig claim came up. There are townie people who have considered you scummy, and I’ve taken their reads into consideration. I also think that the way you’ve been pushing against the Vig Shot isn’t done in a way that you’re afraid it might hit scum, but more so that you can be “Oh, look, I told you it was bad...” if we hit town, which with the leading candidate Eddie there’s a decent chance. You just feel disingenuous.

So you think there is now a high chance that Eddie is town?

I am so confused

[Uncleeurope]

I think he is just shooting me for not claiming despite him thinking I am town.

I would have claimed as scum here, though.

One key difference, MiX, is last game when I had a fakeclaim, if asked a question, I answered it.

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I mean, Galzria just admitted he thinks that Eddie might be town.

Again, I ask.  Why the rush to use the vig shot?

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I think he is just shooting me for not claiming despite him thinking I am town.

I would have claimed as scum here, though.

One key difference, MiX, is last game when I had a fakeclaim, if asked a question, I answered it.

Yeah, you are starting to win me over to think you are town.  I am almost back to saying let's just lynch ADK.  solves a lot of problems.

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Vote: ADK

YOLO

[2.71828.....]

Nah, unvote

I actually have an idea for how we can use the day vig shot with my PR, but it will have to wait until tomorrow.  I wasn't hoping to say anything until my plan had worked/didn't work (no guarantees). 

[MiX]

I have no idea how to read Eddie anymore.

Are we shooting? Are we deciding if we should shoot? I have no idea.

Anyway I suggest lynching Space if Eddie is good, it would blow my VCA wide open if they flip town, that's for sure.

[MiX]

Vote: Space if I hadn't already done this.

[Galzria]

I mean, Galzria just admitted he thinks that Eddie might be town.

Again, I ask.  Why the rush to use the vig shot?

And again, you’ve already been answered, so stop asking just to appear townie.

I believe there are plenty of worlds where scum refuses to claim - even given a fake claim opportunity, if they believe there’s any chance they don’t die.

There is no logical reason for Town not to claim, and even less when told their claim would prevent their own death and potentially find scum instead. Eddie literally claimed that he would be a better kill than killing scum. That’s beyond ridiculous. The entire thing is either a massive AtE play, or Eddie has massively misplayed.

If Eddie is town, I don’t want to shoot him (obviously). But the ONE thing he can do to redirect the shot to potential scum he refuses to do. And I can’t help but be left feeling like he’s trying to be saved by a “feel bad for the guy no way he’s scum here” argument. Sorry, that’s not gonna work. If he wants to live, if he wants to kill scum, he needs to flavor claim. He refuses, so he dies.

[Uncleeurope]

What is AtE?

[MiX]

What is AtE?

Appeal to Emotion: the foundation of your playstyle when under suspicion.

[Uncleeurope]

Ah.

[Uncleeurope]

Galz, treat it like this, me claiming is like two town dies, or roughly equivalent. Me dying today is like one town dies, me not claiming and not dying is like no town dies.