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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1675 on: August 11, 2019, 12:50:04 pm »

By the way, if I was scum I would have just said they were guaranteed to be the same alignment.

That is if I would have come up with this garbage as scum.

Why the heck to I leave it this vague when it complicates my desired outcome.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1676 on: August 11, 2019, 12:52:03 pm »

Okay here's a real question: the things that happen when you die, do they affect these 2 flavors specifically?

Yes, is why I am almost positive they are the same alignment, so randomness doesn’t shift balance based on a 50/50.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1677 on: August 11, 2019, 12:53:27 pm »

But at that point I create a second IC. (A real one this time)

So at least you will have a replacement.

It still doesn’t create a second IC. Just because one name is town doesn’t mean both are.

It would be just as much an IC as MiX is. There is an odd chance for a GF, just like there is an insanely off chance of a disjoint in alignment for these names.

Then assume one is mine and accept that: A) I know. B) You cannot make any more of an additional IC than I could. C) Without you claiming, my death will do what you’re trying to do but better and more concretely.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1678 on: August 11, 2019, 12:53:47 pm »

By the way, if I was scum I would have just said they were guaranteed to be the same alignment.

That is if I would have come up with this garbage as scum.

Why the heck to I leave it this vague when it complicates my desired outcome.

Reading EoD3 of RMM53 where you made a weird claim and stuck with it to the every end IIRC. Although the circunstances are different (there you were 100% scum, here you're far from it) they look similar, at least from what I remember it.

Okay here's a real question: the things that happen when you die, do they affect these 2 flavors specifically?

Yes, is why I am almost positive they are the same alignment, so randomness doesn’t shift balance based on a 50/50.

Would they know they're being affected?
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1679 on: August 11, 2019, 12:54:56 pm »

Then assume neither are you and I create two MICs that are two people we are unsure on.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1680 on: August 11, 2019, 12:56:38 pm »

Remember, though, MiX: I did that in that game because I knew it is how I would behave if I was town.

As exemplified here.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1681 on: August 11, 2019, 12:56:48 pm »

Then assume neither are you and I create two MICs that are two people we are unsure on.

Don’t buy it - and it could do far more harm than good if one (or both) are scum and people are treating them like IC’s.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1682 on: August 11, 2019, 12:59:08 pm »

ADK, you should shoot sooner rather than later so we can decide to follow with a lynch (if we hit town) or no-lynch (if we hit scum).
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1683 on: August 11, 2019, 12:59:21 pm »

Still don't like using the day vig. Much prefer a lynch
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1684 on: August 11, 2019, 01:00:10 pm »

All you have to do is treat them as the same alignment.

It’s a free cop result traded for scum knowing two flavors in a pool, I can’t see a downside.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1685 on: August 11, 2019, 01:01:22 pm »

Still don't like using the day vig. Much prefer a lynch

That's why you Believe The Ic and the mystical Ic Role Powers and pray it's a better move than not.

All you have to do is treat them as the same alignment.

It’s a free cop result traded for scum knowing two flavors in a pool, I can’t see a downside.

If you share why you think they absolutely must coexist in this game...then you have to reveal the flavor, which Galzria doesn't want.

Can you reveal your own flavor?
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1686 on: August 11, 2019, 01:01:27 pm »

Galz, do you actually think I am scum here?

And I really just want to announce the stinking names, I think you are wrong and it will be helpful.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1687 on: August 11, 2019, 01:02:49 pm »

Still don't like using the day vig. Much prefer a lynch

That's why you Believe The Ic and the mystical Ic Role Powers and pray it's a better move than not.

Oh, ok. Carry on then
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1688 on: August 11, 2019, 01:02:51 pm »

Galz, do you actually think I am scum here?

And I really just want to announce the stinking names, I think you are wrong and it will be helpful.

If you gave us your own flavor name I would encourage ADK to shoot his choice between e, Shraeye & pubby.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1689 on: August 11, 2019, 01:03:18 pm »

Galz, do you actually think I am scum here?

And I really just want to announce the stinking names, I think you are wrong and it will be helpful.

Part of me says "you have more information about your own role than Galzria", the other part says "Galzria knows more about their own role than you" so you should probably not do it???

Okay here's a real question: the things that happen when you die, do they affect these 2 flavors specifically?

Yes, is why I am almost positive they are the same alignment, so randomness doesn’t shift balance based on a 50/50.

Would they know they're being affected?
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1690 on: August 11, 2019, 01:05:01 pm »

Galz, do you actually think I am scum here?

And I really just want to announce the stinking names, I think you are wrong and it will be helpful.

If you gave us your own flavor name I would encourage ADK to shoot his choice between e, Shraeye & pubby.

Hey now, that is random.

Why am I on this list?
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1691 on: August 11, 2019, 01:05:36 pm »

If I reveal my own flavor you have to shoot me.

And it will inadvertently reveal the other two, I think.

I don’t know.

I have no idea what the flavor of this show is, and it is making this hard for me to gauge.

The good and bad things that happen later on are guaranteed to happen to the a different of my 2 names.

And it is random, so basically, it will drastically alter the power levels of the game if it happens based on random chance.

Unless they are both on he same team.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1692 on: August 11, 2019, 01:06:15 pm »

Yes they will know.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1693 on: August 11, 2019, 01:08:55 pm »

Galz, do you actually think I am scum here?

And I really just want to announce the stinking names, I think you are wrong and it will be helpful.

If you gave us your own flavor name I would encourage ADK to shoot his choice between e, Shraeye & pubby.

Hey now, that is random.

Why am I on this list?

You have been on a number of my questions to others since the Vig claim came up. There are townie people who have considered you scummy, and I’ve taken their reads into consideration. I also think that the way you’ve been pushing against the Vig Shot isn’t done in a way that you’re afraid it might hit scum, but more so that you can be “Oh, look, I told you it was bad...” if we hit town, which with the leading candidate Eddie there’s a decent chance. You just feel disingenuous.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1694 on: August 11, 2019, 01:09:57 pm »

Yes they will know.

So you shouldn't claim, whoever knows they were tampered with are town.

If your flip PoEs the other 2 then you should just claim your own and leave the other ones semi-revealed.

There's random things in this game (Awaclus, my one role) so I believe it.

Can you claim your flavor now?
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1695 on: August 11, 2019, 01:11:04 pm »

If I reveal my own flavor you have to shoot me.

And it will inadvertently reveal the other two, I think.

I don’t know.

I have no idea what the flavor of this show is, and it is making this hard for me to gauge.

The good and bad things that happen later on are guaranteed to happen to the a different of my 2 names.

And it is random, so basically, it will drastically alter the power levels of the game if it happens based on random chance.

Unless they are both on he same team.

We’ve had two Skitters claim & not be killed, and a 3rd party claimed & not be killed.

Try me.

Look, either you claim, it satisfies belief and we shoot elsewhere, or you don’t claim and we shoot you. If you’re town your ONLY chance at survival is to claim your flavor name.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1696 on: August 11, 2019, 01:13:10 pm »

Yes they will know.

So you shouldn't claim, whoever knows they were tampered with are town.

If your flip PoEs the other 2 then you should just claim your own and leave the other ones semi-revealed.

There's random things in this game (Awaclus, my one role) so I believe it.

Can you claim your flavor now?

They won’t both know thy were tampered with.

I also would be much more cooperative as scum, like what the heck.
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« Reply #1697 on: August 11, 2019, 01:14:19 pm »

If I reveal my own flavor you have to shoot me.

And it will inadvertently reveal the other two, I think.

I don’t know.

I have no idea what the flavor of this show is, and it is making this hard for me to gauge.

The good and bad things that happen later on are guaranteed to happen to the a different of my 2 names.

And it is random, so basically, it will drastically alter the power levels of the game if it happens based on random chance.

Unless they are both on he same team.

We’ve had two Skitters claim & not be killed, and a 3rd party claimed & not be killed.

Try me.

Look, either you claim, it satisfies belief and we shoot elsewhere, or you don’t claim and we shoot you. If you’re town your ONLY chance at survival is to claim your flavor name.

What if I don’t want to survive after my flavor is out?
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« Reply #1698 on: August 11, 2019, 01:15:25 pm »

If I reveal my own flavor you have to shoot me.

And it will inadvertently reveal the other two, I think.

I don’t know.

I have no idea what the flavor of this show is, and it is making this hard for me to gauge.

The good and bad things that happen later on are guaranteed to happen to the a different of my 2 names.

And it is random, so basically, it will drastically alter the power levels of the game if it happens based on random chance.

Unless they are both on he same team.

We’ve had two Skitters claim & not be killed, and a 3rd party claimed & not be killed.

Try me.

Look, either you claim, it satisfies belief and we shoot elsewhere, or you don’t claim and we shoot you. If you’re town your ONLY chance at survival is to claim your flavor name.

What if I don’t want to survive after my flavor is out?

If you’re town, that’s ridiculous.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1699 on: August 11, 2019, 01:15:32 pm »

Yes they will know.

So you shouldn't claim, whoever knows they were tampered with are town.

If your flip PoEs the other 2 then you should just claim your own and leave the other ones semi-revealed.

There's random things in this game (Awaclus, my one role) so I believe it.

Can you claim your flavor now?

They won’t both know thy were tampered with.

What does this even meeeeean???

You're just delaying your death, that is all. Scum would do it.
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