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[A Drowned Kernel]

Another thought. There was a very specific 2 hour twilight phase at the end of D1.

ADK- can you shoot during twilight?

The power specifies that I can't shoot during twilight. It doesn't specify anything about ending the day but I asked just to be sure.

[faust]

Okay, so do we shoot him or lynch him? I'm fine either way, but I guess lynching is better to wait for more information?

Vote: Eddie

Shooting is better.

Why is shooting better? If we want ADK to be out of a shot, can't we force them to shoot D3 instead?

PPE: Yeah that seems correct.

If we get more flips sooner, our PRs can make more informed decisions the next night.

[MiX]

I would rather have more informed lynches than more informed PR targetting.

[Uncleeurope]

Looked up to confirm what I was thinking

Lynching me results in three bad things and two good things. (I clarified this and day-vig counts as lynch here)

Vig ends day based on this.

That's different, Eddie probably has "if you die during the day" or just "not NKd" (or whatever is equivelent), he doesn't have access to ADK's role to know otherwise.

Oh, ok. I guess I should ask for clarification

The day wouldn’t end.

[Uncleeurope]

@eddie: Can you reveal the negative part of your role?

No.

[MiX]

Ah, you're here. I don't think anyone wants you alive. What do you think the downsides of claiming the two roles you know are?

[Uncleeurope]

*yawn* Okay let's process this claim:

- Knows two flavors that are town.

- When he dies, one of them gets a debuff whereas the other one gets a buff

- Has a random thing that could be good or bad and killing him stops it.

So first of all, the claim's a bunch of nothing. I mean, what do you even do at night? Second of all, why aren't you outing which flavors are confirmed town? Worst case scenario scum fakeclaims them and enters conflicts, right?

I'll need to input "ADK and Eddie is town" in my VCA, I think the logical conclusion is that at least one scum bussed, even if it was faust. But I'll have to double check that.

So are we shooting? Galz said "strongly in favor" of shooting, I said sure, I don't think anyone opposes (or can oppose, Galz is calling the shoots here, literally).

What are you waiting for? Further confirmation?

Uh, I oppose. And while I believe that you are totally town ceding your opinions to galzria is scummy.

He's the one that has a secret PR, I don't know how good it is to have ADK shoot without that information.


Where am I voting?

Vote: shraeye

The thing that happens later is good AND bad.

Now you know why I find it complicated what you can possibly inherit here.

And I would prefer to hide flavor names because there seems to be concern that they have power, and spilling those out late game could be more impactful. Of course this is all contingent on me being alive to make judgement calls later on, if I’m going to be dead I may as well dump my brain out.

[MiX]

And I would prefer to hide flavor names because there seems to be concern that they have power, and spilling those out late game could be more impactful. Of course this is all contingent on me being alive to make judgement calls later on, if I’m going to be dead I may as well dump my brain out.

I don't see much difference in outing them now or after everyone claims: sure, scum can't conflict in the latter scenario, but...that's it. Is conflicting really that bad for town at this stage?

[Uncleeurope]

It’s not about doing it after claims, it’s about postponing flavor name revealing:

That being said, Does town still want me dead? Would you people like me to claim my two names?

[Uncleeurope]

Yeah, I think I am still leaving towards lynching Eddie given all the claims, vote counts, and play

Vote: Uncleeurope

Your gut told you I was town, though.

This is a scummy vote.

[A Drowned Kernel]

It’s not about doing it after claims, it’s about postponing flavor name revealing:

That being said, Does town still want me dead? Would you people like me to claim my two names?

If you think that that's helpful, go for it

[MiX]

It’s not about doing it after claims, it’s about postponing flavor name revealing:

That being said, Does town still want me dead? Would you people like me to claim my two names?

I'm almost certain town will kill you today, yes. Unless you have a better alternative?

[Uncleeurope]

It’s not about doing it after claims, it’s about postponing flavor name revealing:

That being said, Does town still want me dead? Would you people like me to claim my two names?

I'm almost certain town will kill you today, yes. Unless you have a better alternative?

The best alternative I have is “You guys realize that most of you think I am town already and just lynch someone else”

We’ll see how that works.

[MiX]

It’s not about doing it after claims, it’s about postponing flavor name revealing:

That being said, Does town still want me dead? Would you people like me to claim my two names?

I'm almost certain town will kill you today, yes. Unless you have a better alternative?

The best alternative I have is “You guys realize that most of you think I am town already and just lynch someone else”

We’ll see how that works.

Who is this "someone else"? Last time I asked something like this you didn't really have a solid pick, do you have one now?

[Uncleeurope]

Nope.

[shraeye]

Yeah, I think I am still leaving towards lynching Eddie given all the claims, vote counts, and play

Vote: Uncleeurope

Your gut told you I was town, though.

This is a scummy vote.

I can't find the gut-read you're talking about

[Uncleeurope]

That is fair, I was thinking of PPS’s post.

Carry on, folks.

[Galzria]

ADK,

If you were picking between Shraeye, pubby & e, which would you choose and why?

MiX, which of those would you shoot here?

[MiX]

ADK,

If you were picking between Shraeye, pubby & e, which would you choose and why?

MiX, which of those would you shoot here?

None...it's an incredibly hard choice. I would shoot just about everyone else before those 3 (except Glooble).

Maybe.....shraeye? But I'm far from certain on this.

[A Drowned Kernel]

ADK,

If you were picking between Shraeye, pubby & e, which would you choose and why?

MiX, which of those would you shoot here?

I'm on my phone but based on what I remember from those three i would pick e over shraeye over pubby

Pubby's various claims and assumptions about the setup are too weird to come from scum

[Swowl]

Wow... so that claim is a lot. Idk what to do with that. It initially has me leaning towards town on Eddie now... i think

Why

Because the description of his role makes it too easy to just say screw it and shoot him. I don’t think skum is likely to manufacture a role in that way.

The flavor names he knows could easily just be his partner’s fake claims, and he’s told us essentially nothing else about his role.

When EFHW flipped they flipped “Masquerading” as Dan Weaver. I assumed that meant dan weaver was their fake claim.
If they all flip with their fake claims... it would be kind of dumb for him to use buddy fakes if he is skum.

And yeah it told us nothing. That is my point. In his spot, as skum, i feel like he would try harder to live by making himself more valuable. He pretty much did the opposite of that.

[Galzria]

Eddie, what is your flavor name?

[shraeye]

If you were picking between Shraeye, pubby & e, which would you choose and why?

MiX, which of those would you shoot here?

None...it's an incredibly hard choice. I would shoot just about everyone else before those 3 (except Glooble).

Maybe.....shraeye? But I'm far from certain on this.

You voted for me just 5 hours ago.  But now choosing me out of a list is incredibly hard?  I'm worth a lynch but not a vig-shot?

[Uncleeurope]

Eddie, what is your flavor name?

Can’t tell you. Which is a bummer.

I think I will announce my two names now, I am just going to stress that if I do nobody claims them if they can avoid it.

Is that fair?

[Galzria]

Eddie, what is your flavor name?

Can’t tell you. Which is a bummer.

I think I will announce my two names now, I am just going to stress that if I do nobody claims them if they can avoid it.

Is that fair?

If you don’t tell us your flavor name, ADK can shoot you and we’ll find out that way.