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[WestCoastDidds]

Stop being scummy & tell me who is scum & why. I’ll make a cocktail (later, when it’s not before 8:00am) in your honor.

Deal! I wasn’t trying to be scummy....when I stated reading to get caught up that was the first post I came to and it obvi deserved three hearts right away.

The next post that deserves hearts is your takedown of MiX’s assessment of his PR, which was AMAZING.

Gushing now out of the way....now to your question
My short list is ADK/Eddie/e/Space, and I’d vote for any of them over people not on my list. My leaning scummish are shraeye and faust. I’m less enthusiastic about voting for them, but if they are scum I’d expect them to play well and be further back on the list.

Eddie’s defense doesn’t have much to it, despite the sheer quantity of posts, but it has a heap of righteous indignation. He seems super annoyed that anyone is voting for him, and especially faust. It could be a bus and he’s just selling it. It feels a bit over the top for how far is is from getting lynched at this point, but Joth’s point about scum being in trouble is well taken. If he’s scum, there’d be reason to freak out some.

ADK is under the radar and playing with more reserve than I am accustomed to. I didn’t find the D1 number/name claims to have cleared them at all. I have e in a similar under the radar canoe. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they weren’t paddling it together in a “hang back and let’s just see” kind of way.

I think Shraeye has done a good job of identifying some of the unease with Space. They are generating quite a bit of content, but not in a way that moves us forward. When I contrast them with pubby, whose scummteam narrative was really interesting and led to good info about MiX, I’m even more struck by the lack of forward momentum.

Other folks seem to be having big aha! moments in regard to who is town and why based on the various reveals of information, and that is not happening for me beyond the most obvious. Partly because I have been otherwise engaged and partly because I have a hard time with the big picture unless I started getting things down on paper with arrows, circles, and Venn diagram ish. Anyway, I feel like I am behind the folks who have had the lightbulb go off and those of us still mostly in the dark.

PPE:4

[MiX]

A note to everyone: you don't need to make it a big deal everytime I say something that isn't 100% true and it's clearly hyperbole. Thank you.

Pubby and Glooble are still the towniest non-ICs.

@Uncle, why do you think you're getting lynched today?

[SpaceAnemone]

Just read the bit where MiX is IC.

I clearly don't know what's going on at all :-/

Unvote

[Uncleeurope]

Didds went from townreading me to scumreading me, which is unfortunate.

[Glooble]

Vote Count 1.8:

MiX (8): WCD, pubby, Space, Awaclus, Glooble, PPS, ADK, shraeye
Awaclus (1): MiX
2.7 (3): gkrieg, joth, EFHW
joth (1): faust
Datswan (1): Galzria

Not Voting (2): 2.7, Datswan

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.  Day 1 ends at 6:00 a.m. on July 31.

quote author=ashersky link=topic=17915.msg806905#msg806905 date=1564567305]
Day 1 Final Vote Count:

MiX (1): shraeye
EFHW (9): Galzria, WCD, Datswan, Awaclus, joth, Space, Glooble, MiX, 2.7
Galzria (1) EFHW
WCD (1): pubby
joth (3): ADK, faust, Uncle
faust (1): PPS

Not Voting (0):

With 16 alive, it took 9 to lynch.  Day 1 ended at 6:00 a.m. on July 31.
[/quote]

On MiX/ Off EFHW: pubby, PPS, ADK, shraeye
On MiX/ On EFHW: WCD, Space, Awaclus, Glooble
Off MiX/ On EFHW: MiX, joth, Galzria, 2.7, DatSwan
Off MiX/ Off EFHW: gkrieg/Uncle, EFHW, faust,


Now that MiX is essentially IC (barring Godfather, which I doubt ashersky puts in) we should be looking at those four at the top, right? A lot of us have kind of cleared pubby for now, and ADK and shraeye certainly have some heat on them. But did I miss some reason we're giving PPS a pass?

Also is this the ADK case? That he's one of the few on the town wagon but off the scum wagon? I feel like I haven't seen anyone articulate this case, and it makes me slightly more inclined to vote for him, especially because I just reread the MiX wagon and its left me a little more skeptical about the scum!faust theory.

But alas, my lunch break is over, so I have to wait a few hours before following this line of thought any further.

[Glooble]

Dammit, I missed a bracket.

[A Drowned Kernel]

A note to everyone: you don't need to make it a big deal everytime I say something that isn't 100% true and it's clearly hyperbole. Thank you.

Pubby and Glooble are still the towniest non-ICs.

@Uncle, why do you think you're getting lynched today?

I promise to never take anything you say seriously ever again

[A Drowned Kernel]

Eddie, what's your position on space?

[MiX]

A note to everyone: you don't need to make it a big deal everytime I say something that isn't 100% true and it's clearly hyperbole. Thank you.

Pubby and Glooble are still the towniest non-ICs.

@Uncle, why do you think you're getting lynched today?

I promise to never take anything you say seriously ever again

That's all I ever wanted.

[Uncleeurope]

Fair chance of bad.

In my top 3ish

Probably.

But not more than you.

Im voting for Space currently, though. Soooo, yeah.

[Uncleeurope]

A note to everyone: you don't need to make it a big deal everytime I say something that isn't 100% true and it's clearly hyperbole. Thank you.

Pubby and Glooble are still the towniest non-ICs.

@Uncle, why do you think you're getting lynched today?

Because I am the leading wagon and many people not currently voting for me have mentioned wanting to/being okay with voting for me.

[jotheonah]

Fair chance of bad.

In my top 3ish

Probably.

But not more than you.

Im voting for Space currently, though. Soooo, yeah.

Does "Fair chance of bad" mean a baddie (i.e. scum) or a bad lynch (i.e. town). Kind of confusing.

[jotheonah]

A note to everyone: you don't need to make it a big deal everytime I say something that isn't 100% true and it's clearly hyperbole. Thank you.

Pubby and Glooble are still the towniest non-ICs.

@Uncle, why do you think you're getting lynched today?

Because I am the leading wagon and many people not currently voting for me have mentioned wanting to/being okay with voting for me.

General advice: I find this tends to be a self-fulfilling prophecy once you get yourself in that mindset. I choose to always believe I'll never be lynched, and I never have been*.

*Citation needed.

[MiX]

A note to everyone: you don't need to make it a big deal everytime I say something that isn't 100% true and it's clearly hyperbole. Thank you.

Pubby and Glooble are still the towniest non-ICs.

@Uncle, why do you think you're getting lynched today?

Because I am the leading wagon and many people not currently voting for me have mentioned wanting to/being okay with voting for me.

General advice: I find this tends to be a self-fulfilling prophecy once you get yourself in that mindset. I choose to always believe I'll never be lynched, and I never have been*.

I'm living proof the opposite is true.

[Uncleeurope]

Fair chance of bad.

In my top 3ish

Probably.

But not more than you.

Im voting for Space currently, though. Soooo, yeah.

Does "Fair chance of bad" mean a baddie (i.e. scum) or a bad lynch (i.e. town). Kind of confusing.

Baddie.

I’m voting for Space, though, so I feel like that was a confusing question.


And I have been mislynched enough times to warrant some doom and gloom speech. Optimism can’t win all my battles.

And it’s not like I have given up, I just think it is fair to recognize I am the current favorite.

[jotheonah]

I thought you maybe meant "I'm voting here but there's a fair chance I'm wrong" which is a relatable sentiment.

[Uncleeurope]

Vote: ADK

[Swowl]

Who do you think is town?

Space, pubby

To a lesser extent: Glooble, Didds, ADK

What makes adk a town lean for you?

[WestCoastDidds]

Didds went from townreading me to scumreading me, which is unfortunate.

Don't despair! I didn't feel it so fully that I voted for you. But, but, but...the last time you had this level of indignation was in the last lynchpool Less Pressure game and you were scum with ADK (where he was similarly low key). So, it feels familiar.

[Uncleeurope]

Well, I’ll help you lynch ADK if you wanna go that route.

[MiX]

Doing minor very-likely-to-be-wrong VCAs, incredibly annoyed how Eddie is immune to it. Can I call it "The gkrieg curse"? I'll do it anyway.

Otherwise Eddie is voting everywhere EFHW voted, which makes sense considering they were both off me and both on Galzria, but I don't think that matters that much.

What's the case for Eddie-is-scum?

[Galzria]

Doing minor very-likely-to-be-wrong VCAs, incredibly annoyed how Eddie is immune to it. Can I call it "The gkrieg curse"? I'll do it anyway.

Otherwise Eddie is voting everywhere EFHW voted, which makes sense considering they were both off me and both on Galzria, but I don't think that matters that much.

What's the case for Eddie-is-scum?

He said he would vote for EFHW, didn’t, and instead voted for every other potentially viable lynch at the end of the day - literally voting for me to “make my wagon as viable as EFHW’s”, and then for Joth once I was no longer possibly viable.

[2.71828.....]

I need to reread all the leading wagons. Will do that tomorrow morning.

Until then,

Unvote

[2.71828.....]

So faust, ADK, uncle, and space

[MiX]

Doing minor very-likely-to-be-wrong VCAs, incredibly annoyed how Eddie is immune to it. Can I call it "The gkrieg curse"? I'll do it anyway.

Otherwise Eddie is voting everywhere EFHW voted, which makes sense considering they were both off me and both on Galzria, but I don't think that matters that much.

What's the case for Eddie-is-scum?

He said he would vote for EFHW, didn’t, and instead voted for every other potentially viable lynch at the end of the day - literally voting for me to “make my wagon as viable as EFHW’s”, and then for Joth once I was no longer possibly viable.

Scum!Eddie knows that EFHW can flip D1 and that behavior will get him lynched D2, which is completely unacceptable. I would treat that as slightly towny from Eddie, he's capable of doing it as scum but I think he would have a very good reason not to and IMO he wouldn't do it.