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[SpaceAnemone]

I got very behind! Sorry :-( I'm not at all up to date right now because things got busy. I'll work on catching up in any breaks I get tomorrow, because I have to get to bed right now.

Space:

Very simply, MiX went out of his way to say “This is my case on Joth for tomorrow”.

Just so I don't become the annoying one leaving things hanging, yes, thanks for emphasizing that. I can see that if we focus on the "for tomorrow" part, then MiX leaving something "for tomorrow" seems townie. However, I was more focusing on the fact that at the point in time where EFHW wasn't at all a certain lynch, MiX was busy piecing together a case on Joth without even being on the EFHW wagon, and at the time he was working to make the case, it wasn't at all clear that the EFHW wagon would be the one to grow, rather than the Joth one. I feel like the "for tomorrow" line could easily have been edited in with the PPE, and that before reading the two EFHW votes from me and Glooble, he could have been seriously planning to post it as a reason for people to move from EFHW onto Joth.

However the "tomorrow" part does definitely explain MiX's thing about his case being useless, if he means only that posting the case wasn't useful as a "for tomorrow" thing, instead of that the content of the case itself was useless, which was how I read it. So I was missing something after all.

Not sure where my vote should be going at the moment. I'll see how I feel when I'm caught up.

[pingpongsam]

I am caught up and basically we just confirmed my suspicions all around. My vote stands.

[Uncleeurope]

Vote: Space

Sure.

[Swowl]

Catching up... off the top the head question:

@ Galz - i get (now) why you asked MiX start of day... why did you ask pubby?

[faust]

I think faust should throw a party for us since he was in our first game and we're still around and playing.

If by party you mean a new RMM, then sure, that can be arranged.

[faust]

was there a case beyond "vote here for a thank you PM"?

Yes.

[MiX]

I feel like the "for tomorrow" line could easily have been edited in with the PPE, and that before reading the two EFHW votes from me and Glooble, he could have been seriously planning to post it as a reason for people to move from EFHW onto Joth.

Well at least that's accurate: that's precisely what happened. Truthful things like these is what's making me not vote Space, but I don't know their scum meta.

[faust]

Hey Eddie, do you want to share some of your more controversial townreads?

[Uncleeurope]

Yeah, I think there’s a good chance you are town.

I also thought MiX was town before it was cool.

[faust]

Yeah, I think there’s a good chance you are town.

So what was this?

Seriously, who do you think is scum and why is it ADK?

Space/e/ADK/Faust

[Uncleeurope]

That’s so yesterday, bro.

[faust]

That’s so yesterday, bro.

What changed?

[Uncleeurope]

Mood, mainly. Around lunchtime I might vote for you again.

[faust]

Vote: Eddie

It's already past lunchtime here.

[Uncleeurope]

Well I’ll wait the expected allotment of time before responding, if I feel so inclined.

[Uncleeurope]

Vote: Eddie

It's already past lunchtime here.

Quick question, actually: Have you mustered up a case about me separate from my voting pattern that is heavily circumstantial and disconnected entirely from the reality that my previous gameplay suggests?

Because it feels an awfully lot like you are being wrong and stubborn about your wrongness.

There isn’t a real case on me. Galz’s case is crap and nobody else has one.

[faust]

Vote: Eddie

It's already past lunchtime here.

Quick question, actually: Have you mustered up a case about me separate from my voting pattern that is heavily circumstantial and disconnected entirely from the reality that my previous gameplay suggests?

Because it feels an awfully lot like you are being wrong and stubborn about your wrongness.

There isn’t a real case on me. Galz’s case is crap and nobody else has one.

Do you have a case for why you are town?

[Uncleeurope]

Yeah, my wagon is a scum soup with IC seasoning.

Other than that, no. Just cases that suggest I am not the scummiest player here.

Do you think I am the best case for catching a baddie today?

[shraeye]

Vote: Eddie

It's already past lunchtime here.

Quick question, actually: Have you mustered up a case about me separate from my voting pattern that is heavily circumstantial and disconnected entirely from the reality that my previous gameplay suggests?

Because it feels an awfully lot like you are being wrong and stubborn about your wrongness.

There isn’t a real case on me. Galz’s case is crap and nobody else has one.

Do you have a case for why you are town?

If it counts for anything, I believe Uncle is town.  Even if you don't count that for anything, I still believe it.

[faust]

Yeah, my wagon is a scum soup with IC seasoning.

That might even count for something if it wasn't coming from someone who thinks everyone is scum.

Do you think I am the best case for catching a baddie today?

I am voting for you. The rest is left to your imagination.

[Uncleeurope]

Yeah, my wagon is a scum soup with IC seasoning.

That might even count for something if it wasn't coming from someone who thinks everyone is scum.

Do you think I am the best case for catching a baddie today?

I am voting for you. The rest is left to your imagination.

Fine, then tell me that you trust ADK/e.

[faust]

Fine, then tell me that you trust ADK/e.

I think you are confused about how this works. I can vote for you whenever I want, and I don't have to justify my vote, least of all to you. If you want to convince me not to vote for, for instance because you think ADK/e are scummier, then it is your prerogative to build a case and convince me that this is so.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.12:

faust (3): joth, pubby, Glooble
ADK (3): WCD, Datswan, MiX
Uncle (5): ADK, 2.7, Awaclus, Galzria, Faust
MiX (1): Space
Space (3): shraeye, PPS, Uncle

Not Voting (0):

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.  Day 2 ends at 10:00 p.m. on August 12.

[Uncleeurope]

Fine, then tell me that you trust ADK/e.

I think you are confused about how this works. I can vote for you whenever I want, and I don't have to justify my vote, least of all to you. If you want to convince me not to vote for, for instance because you think ADK/e are scummier, then it is your prerogative to build a case and convince me that this is so.

Okay, then don’t justify your vote. But it’s wrong, and being unwilling to talk through your poor arguments inevitably results in an unchangable mind.

And me not knowing your preconceptions about a topic limit my ability to convince you of anything.

If I don’t know where you stand on anything I can’t convince you of anything.

But feel free to stand up there on your high horse looking down on a man not given the ability to have a legitimate discussion.

[jotheonah]

Yeah, my wagon is a scum soup with IC seasoning.

Other than that, no. Just cases that suggest I am not the scummiest player here.

Do you think I am the best case for catching a baddie today?

As I've said before, scum is bussing hard today. They have to. I don't think I want to give these sorts of arguments any weight at all today. In fact, people who are voting for each other today are MORE LIKELY to be partners.