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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #625 on: July 28, 2019, 01:45:27 pm »

In the show Paint Face gains power after Red Eye dies. MiX talking about gaining power after 3 days may be in reference to this.

Glooble, are you Red Eye?

Would you expect both players to be fully town aligned and not third party?

Pps, last I remember I was scum trying to "fix" something to win, yet you keep pushing the third-party angle. Pick one!

I think the Dornia would be a better third-party pick anyway, those guys sure look evil just from reading the wiki.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #626 on: July 28, 2019, 01:48:08 pm »

In the show Paint Face gains power after Red Eye dies. MiX talking about gaining power after 3 days may be in reference to this.

Glooble, are you Red Eye?

Would you expect both players to be fully town aligned and not third party?
Based on flavor, I think it's likely that their faction can change to be either town or scum. Apparently in the show they started out as evil and became good after a few seasons.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #627 on: July 28, 2019, 01:49:08 pm »

This of course relates to harnesses which the OP mentioned.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #628 on: July 28, 2019, 01:57:10 pm »

In the show Paint Face gains power after Red Eye dies. MiX talking about gaining power after 3 days may be in reference to this.

Glooble, are you Red Eye?

Would you expect both players to be fully town aligned and not third party?

Pps, last I remember I was scum trying to "fix" something to win, yet you keep pushing the third-party angle. Pick one!

I think the Dornia would be a better third-party pick anyway, those guys sure look evil just from reading the wiki.

Yeah, dude, scum is used as meaning not town. Scum can be Mafia, SK, etc. Etc. Third party is scum but there are degrees. Survivor is scum but he can share a town win condition. You emphatically stayed you were town, though, and that I find very hard to believe. If you lied then I believe it is because you either want to preserve the option to win with the favorable faction at the time it presents itself or because you actually have a wincon counter to town. According to what I am reading and seeing here I strongly suspect the former and mostly dismissed the latter.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #629 on: July 28, 2019, 02:11:34 pm »

Right, scum is just non-town. Fine then.

Why do you still think I'm scum?
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #630 on: July 28, 2019, 02:11:40 pm »

I have already said too much. There is additional information which will probably be safe to reveal on day two, I think we should hold off lynching MiX until then.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #631 on: July 28, 2019, 02:32:23 pm »

Right, scum is just non-town. Fine then.

Why do you still think I'm scum?

I just do it buy that bugs are fully aligned with humans. The rest of your play makes sense when viewed in a third party style. I think you were forced to claim and instead of risking getting lynched for not being 100% town you lied. The reasons for the lie range from probably okay to not get lynched to outright doomsday for town so I say why take the risk to town? If you had been forthcoming to begin with (assuming you are lying) I would not be so stuck on the issue.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #632 on: July 28, 2019, 02:41:05 pm »

I don't want to lynch mix (or glooble) today given that we can lynch mix day three if he doesn't deliver on his promise

I do find it interesting that EFHW attacks faust's logic but then votes for galz instead of faust

vote: efhw
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #633 on: July 28, 2019, 02:42:32 pm »

What part of REBELLION do you not understand? The 2 flavor names I could have actively fight the flavor that is the scum team: why on earth can't they be town? They're just as allies to humans as the Volm are: how many third-parties do you think exist?
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #634 on: July 28, 2019, 02:46:38 pm »

So.... Why are we lynching EFHW?
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #635 on: July 28, 2019, 03:00:53 pm »

vote: pps
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #636 on: July 28, 2019, 03:14:39 pm »

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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #637 on: July 28, 2019, 03:42:21 pm »

This is awkward, but my limited access is starting in like half an hour. I feel like faust's groupings of people is super arbitrary and everything he is saying about me applies to him just as well.

vote:Galzria
Well I'm not going to suggest that I am scum anytime soon if that's what you were hoping for.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #638 on: July 28, 2019, 03:44:31 pm »

So.... Why are we lynching EFHW?
For all the nice thank-you PMs of course.

For reals though, I have laid out my case, I'm not sure why you need to keep asking.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #639 on: July 28, 2019, 03:57:20 pm »

People who voted MiX or expressed intent to hammer over the course of the game.

Awaclus (130), pubby (132), faust (133), Galzria (218), ADK (248), Didds (249), Glooble (250), pubby (269), pps (275), Space (292), jotheonah (371), Awaclus (375), Glooble (384), Glazria (385), DatSwan (469), pps (486), ADK (502), shraeye (526), joth (546)

People who defended MiX or questioned votes on him:

Didds (134), faust (somewhere in there, sorry forgot to add), jotheonah (254), jotheonah (311), e (389)

Notable:
- the only player to consistently defend MiX is e.
- the only players who have not gone on the record regarding MiX are gkrieg and EFHW.

I think that it is very likely that there is scum in this group of 3. Probably even more than one.

Because PoE based on a random standard you created?

There are also three people whose username starts with the letter "g"

Pretty sure there is scum in gkrieg, Glooble, and galzria. We should lynch there
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #640 on: July 28, 2019, 03:58:04 pm »

I admit, your metric is slightly more persuading.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #641 on: July 28, 2019, 03:59:53 pm »

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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #642 on: July 28, 2019, 04:02:08 pm »

How about the intersection?

Vote: gkrieg

Fits your group, my group, plus the added benefit that I think gkrieg is more likely to do that sort of thing than EFHW
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #643 on: July 28, 2019, 04:09:05 pm »

Being honest here Faust, I prefer (think it’s more likely) Swan. EFHW has traditionally been difficult for me to ping correctly as scum (she’s very good at hiding as scum imho), but I agree with your general assessment in regards to her approach with the MiX wagon.

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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #644 on: July 28, 2019, 04:10:05 pm »

So I know I was being a little annoying earlier with how I characterized faust's case, but the longer I actually think about it I kind of do like it. But I also like gkrieg over EFHW
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #645 on: July 28, 2019, 04:12:32 pm »

But I also like gkrieg over EFHW

I'm around here as well. I'll be productive IRL tomorrow, hopefully metareading both of these, they're my favourite lynches by far.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #646 on: July 28, 2019, 04:20:25 pm »

pps is reacting in the scummiest way to the MiX claim IMO (assuming the MiX claim is true)
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #647 on: July 28, 2019, 04:24:53 pm »

pps is reacting in the scummiest way to the MiX claim IMO (assuming the MiX claim is true)

Pubby’s reaction is scummier imo.
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #648 on: July 28, 2019, 04:26:59 pm »

pps is reacting in the scummiest way to the MiX claim IMO (assuming the MiX claim is true)

It's not only the towniest way possible, it's also incredibly scummy if I AM scum, because it's putting preemptive holes in my claim for me to defend immediately in a controlled environment (assuming we're buddies).

PPE: It's close to towniest as well. Scum know what's scummy and purposedly avoid it (I know I do).
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Re: RMM48: Falling Skies Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #649 on: July 28, 2019, 04:46:21 pm »

pps is reacting in the scummiest way to the MiX claim IMO (assuming the MiX claim is true)

I think MiX is either truly claiming or using his fake claim seeing as his claim was forced. I maintain that he is probably lying about being town aligned. No one but MiX himself has even bothered to try to explain why that would not be the case. It seems everyone else is willing to believe he must be town due to his claim. I am the sole person questioning it, so this is patently untrue.
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