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[pingpongsam]

Quotes take forever and I'm tired of them

GLOOBLE: Yes, you never lynch me day 1, it's proof I've improved since my first game.

GALZRIA: You talk about PRs a lot: I'm pretty sure flavor roles are much more than indicators of what powers they have. You know who would like to hide that information? Scum.

DIDDS: What's your shraeye case? I wanna hear it.

I’ve spoken almost nothing of PR’s. I’ve spoken exactly nothing about flavor names. The only thing related to which I’ve spoken is flavor scores - and in relation to how effective knowing them MIGHT help guide our PR’s to be most effective at night. A post made only because it was asked directly of me to elucidate on possible upsides after I stated that I hadn’t really had the time to think about it one way or another. That is the only post on any part of the subject that I have made thus far. Your characterization that I’m highly focused on this subject, or talk about it a lot, is simply untrue. Much like your mid-characterizations of a number of people thus far. Hence why I’m more than happy to lynch you.

All of this. Mix does seem to be trying spread scumFUD as wide as possible.

More to the point Vote: Mix

[WestCoastDidds]

DIDDS: What's your shraeye case? I wanna hear it.

I don't have a case, just an inclination.  And I have no reason to believe he isn't feeling well (what he said yesterday, I think). But at some point, he will go from being not around because life to not around because he's scum laying low. So, no case, he's just on my radar in the same way that Awaclus is.

PPE: Galz's response to this post is awesome. 

[jotheonah]

another somewhat lurker I'd like to take a look at is gkreig.

I think in a town this big, scum is laying low. But I also think it's probably true there's at least one scum on the MiX wagon by now.

We have enough content now to make a reread meaningful. I just wish I had time to do one.

[Awaclus]

And I have no reason to believe he isn't feeling well (what he said yesterday, I think)

You don't believe him?

[faust]

another somewhat lurker I'd like to take a look at is gkreig.

I think in a town this big, scum is laying low. But I also think it's probably true there's at least one scum on the MiX wagon by now.

We have enough content now to make a reread meaningful. I just wish I had time to do one.

This is such an empty comment. Vaguely pointing at lurkers. (where, whether or not scum is laying low has nothing to do with the size of town and everything to do with who the scum are), vaguely pointing at a large wagon saying there is scum on it, which is almost the most generic statement I can imagine.

[pingpongsam]

The Swan/Mix interaction could easily be partner distancing. I think Swan just came in with a lot of thoughts suddenly without regard for overall context and that is very easy to misconstrue. Mix's angst toward faust for casing Swan, though, doesn't seem quite right. It's one thing to counter the argument much like I just did in sentence #2 above it's a whole other thing to FOS over it.

[pingpongsam]

The Swan/Mix interaction could easily be partner distancing. I think Swan just came in with a lot of thoughts suddenly without regard for overall context and that is very easy to misconstrue. Mix's angst toward faust for casing Swan, though, doesn't seem quite right. It's one thing to counter the argument much like I just did in sentence #2 above it's a whole other thing to FOS over it.

I mean, by the same token, faust/swan interaction could ostensibly be distancing; I'd have to study closer. Even in that scenario, Mix is the overt scum monger.

[MiX]

The Swan/Mix interaction could easily be partner distancing. I think Swan just came in with a lot of thoughts suddenly without regard for overall context and that is very easy to misconstrue. Mix's angst toward faust for casing Swan, though, doesn't seem quite right. It's one thing to counter the argument much like I just did in sentence #2 above it's a whole other thing to FOS over it.

I mean, by the same token, faust/swan interaction could ostensibly be distancing; I'd have to study closer. Even in that scenario, Mix is the overt scum monger.

Is it distancing if I defend Swan so much that I scumread faust for it?

[WestCoastDidds]

And I have no reason to believe he isn't feeling well (what he said yesterday, I think)

You don't believe him?

I believe him. No reason not to.

[faust]

It hurts my feelings how you respond to every little thing people post but ignore my question, MiX.

[faust]

And I have no reason to believe he isn't feeling well (what he said yesterday, I think)

You don't believe him?

I believe him. No reason not to.

Another double negation? Have you learned nothing from Awaclus's confusion?!

[WestCoastDidds]

And I have no reason to believe he isn't feeling well (what he said yesterday, I think)

You don't believe him?

I believe him. No reason not to.

I don’t think people are untruthful about VLA, illness, or life. I didn’t mean to imply otherwise.

[MiX]

It hurts my feelings how you respond to every little thing people post but ignore my question, MiX.

I don't read everything. What's your question?

[MiX]

Oh I found it.

I don't like faust's Swan case, and I think it makes him scum

Can you expand?

I don't think this is scum!Swan behavior and I think I can read him well. As for your case, I don't think heavy-setup-related-no-scumhunting posts are scumtells for Swan at all, if not the contrary.

So does it make me scum for a reason other than you disagree with me?

No, I just think you're doing faust things, and my recollection of your scum game is faust things, so I matched the two. That plus the disagreement part.

[jotheonah]

another somewhat lurker I'd like to take a look at is gkreig.

I think in a town this big, scum is laying low. But I also think it's probably true there's at least one scum on the MiX wagon by now.

We have enough content now to make a reread meaningful. I just wish I had time to do one.

This is such an empty comment. Vaguely pointing at lurkers. (where, whether or not scum is laying low has nothing to do with the size of town and everything to do with who the scum are), vaguely pointing at a large wagon saying there is scum on it, which is almost the most generic statement I can imagine.

they can't all be winners

[SpaceAnemone]

I also do not at all agree that Ash just "randomly put the number component in for people that do not know the flavor". Ash made it crystal clear in the OP that if you don't know the show you will be at a disadvantage.

I honestly think the number is just there to give those of us who know zilch about the flavour a helping hand in gauging how townie we'd sound if we came out with our flavour name, given that he's made it explicit that name has to be considered part of the role. I really don't think there's a further secret to the numbers, and I'm saying that as someone who loves playing with numbers...

I'm not sure there's any value in a townperson claiming their number if they're about to get lynched or in twilight, as long as we don't expect that number to sway the lynch away from them in any way. After all, they have other stuff about their role that they can presumably say if they really need to sway people. That's also why it's useful to know ahead of time which players have an independent sense of the towniness of different claimed names and stuff.. obviously we need to know a set of players who'll be able to offer opinions on those, since we never know exactly whom to trust.

[SpaceAnemone]

The Swan/Mix interaction could easily be partner distancing. I think Swan just came in with a lot of thoughts suddenly without regard for overall context and that is very easy to misconstrue. Mix's angst toward faust for casing Swan, though, doesn't seem quite right. It's one thing to counter the argument much like I just did in sentence #2 above it's a whole other thing to FOS over it.

I think the Swan-MiX interaction is mostly just two people being noisy and generating content. I don't particularly agree with the directions Swan's trying to go with things, but also I agree with Galz's MiX put-down. Actually I think an Ash-RMM setup easily has the potential for both of them to have anti-town wincons without necessarily even being partners. I'm not sure that helps me at all with the question of where to put my vote.

[SpaceAnemone]

Actually, let's go with vote: MiX, now that I've looked at the count and subsequent votes, and reassured myself it's not an early derphammer.

[jotheonah]

I think I want to vote: Space

They feel off this game. And they’re exhibiting a sometimes-valid scumtell: over-explaining/defending all their actions.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.5:

MiX (6): Awaclus, WCD, Glooble, pubby, PPS, Space
pubby (1): 2.7
Galzria (2): MiX, faust
WCD (1): ADK
faust (1): Galzria
Space (1): joth

Not Voting (4): Datswan, EFHW, gkrieg, shraeye

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.  Day 1 ends at 6:00 a.m. on July 31.

[pubby]

I think I want to vote: Space

They feel off this game. And they’re exhibiting a sometimes-valid scumtell: over-explaining/defending all their actions.

I actually agree but I want to know what you think of MiX.

[faust]

I think I want to vote: Space

They feel off this game. And they’re exhibiting a sometimes-valid scumtell: over-explaining/defending all their actions.

That is just a Space tell.

[Swowl]

I think I want to vote: Space

They feel off this game. And they’re exhibiting a sometimes-valid scumtell: over-explaining/defending all their actions.

I actually agree but I want to know what you think of MiX.

Have you played many games with space, Pubby?

[Swowl]

General note - if the number was ONLY there to help players that know nothing about the flavor - ashes would of flipped the number when players flip to keep it fair for unknowing players. As that is the the case, i doubt it is only for “unknowing players” purposes.

[Swowl]

Edit: as that is NOT the case...