Both faust's and EFHW's early behavior was to prevent a MiX lynch. faust started the EFHW wagon to pull votes off of MiX, thinking there was no chance EFHW would actually die. When he realized the wagon was working, he panicked.
Why would faust deflect a scum wagon onto scum?
EFHW had no intention of lynching MiX d1 and never voted for him once. She defended him. So why did she, a member of scum, ask for a vote count? It sounds like she was concerned about her Queen.
Emulating her townmeta. This more or less describes scum!EFHW, actually; asking for vote counts after votes is a towny thing (that scum do more, but alas).
This comment is key - it's a partner tell between the two. But EFHW denies him because it would make the two of them look bad.
Denying still looks bad.
MiX tries to jump on EFHW just how he tried to jump on faust - two people that are defending him. He's nervous and trying to make himself look better by voting for his partners.
I literally unvoted next, this is meaningless. The official story is that EFHW was the only scummy person no one had considered, so I wanted to point that out. Why would I do that as scumbuddies with EFHW?
MiX listens to buddy faust and immediately unvotes 2 minutes later. Remember when MiX was suspicious of faust only a few pages earlier? Why is he doing what faust says?
Something I think EFHW said: faust is essencially bound to do towny things regardless of alignment. This makes him an excellent buddy target regardless of my read on him. Besides he was correct.
* Eventually, MiX claims:
Alright. Let's go...
Claim: I am the best role in the game. I have a plan that will inevitably IC me. I am a "Leader". We need to lynch today. My flip will tell you everything you need to know about my role except this: I do it 2 or 3 times. Everything else is pointless if I die now.
* Only 2 minutes later, coach faust replies fast with this comment:
Can you specify whether you are a Skitter?
How did he realize "Leader" = "Skitter" so quickly?? Remember: faust claimed he was not familiar with the flavor. Did he really notice MiX's post, jump on the wiki, search, think about what to ask, and then ask it in 108 seconds? Or did he already know MiX's fake claim?? What's more likely here?
BTW, note that Googling "Falling Skies Leader" does NOT return results for Skitters.
Such a good point. faust, any chance you can explain this now? However, it makes no sense that scum!faust would say this to a partner: he would be forcing more claims from his buddy.
Keep in mind that Glooble - an actual skitter leader - has no QT knowledge of other Skitters. So why would faust? It's laughable. faust should have just said, yeah man, I got it from the "leader" part.
He should, right? So why didn't he? Could it be there's another reason? Like, oh I don't know, his town role? Scum absolutely says they know the skitter flavor here, it's much easier and ties less to their fakeclaim.
Note that e was being wagoned for the very same reason, with EFHW voting for him. If faust was town and believed in his own argument, he'd hop on the e wagon too.
Sure, but EFHW flipped scum, whereas E's a bit towny. Notice how everyone jumped on E after his defense of me.
faust becomes increasingly panicked and has several posts trying to convince others to abandon ship. But when he changes his vote, there's no case behind it. He doesn't talk about joth. It's just an empty post.
Good point.
Great wagons all around. Realistical wagons: Galzria/EFHW/joth. Wagons I'm willing to support: EFHW/joth. Vote untill I wake up:
Vote: EFHW
I do understand faust's theory, but what can scum do about EFHW? Maybe they thought it would die down or something, any movement is scummy when she flips scum.
Yes, any movement off EFHW appears scummy when she flips scum. That's what he was thinking when he threw EFHW back under the bus. But how did he know EFHW was going to flip scum?
Like WHAT?? Why did he say EFHW was going to flip scum?? Read his post. He said EFHW will flip scum.
I was countering faust's EFHW-is-town case, by saying that she can be scum. It was all hypothetical, essencially pointing out that scum can't do much more than bus in that scenario. Which was inevitably true.
Well, we're lynching town. Thus is D1.
Vote: Galz, EFHW's not really diverging from her town meta.
This post makes no sense. He said earlier EFHW would flip scum, but now he's voting for someone he thinks is town?
I had just reread EFHW and came out an EFHW-null, which is to say towny. Well clearly I can't read EFHW, but who can?
Well that was disappointing. shraeye, PPS and pubby have played terribly.
It's always the town that are the most dissappointing.
What a strange thing for both of them to say. Shouldn't they be suspicious of us 3? Why are they acting like we're all town?
I was already pretty sure pubby and pps were town, I was disagreeing with faust's FoS on those 3.
There's absolutely nothing hinting towards Paint Face being a universal backup on the Falling Skies wiki. If anything, he'd be some type of investigative role. Or just a backup to Glooble's ability, but he claims that's not the case and neither him nor Glooble know about each other.
Well I think it makes perfect sense for Paint Face to be a Back-Up...an universal one's just the mafia implementation.
MiX's plan from the start was to copy someone's ability, then use this to "IC" himself. He said it in the beginning: he needs a lynch d1 to show he's town and is willing to lynch a townie to make it happen. But why? Why would a townie be so insistant on proving themself? To me, only scum plays that way.
Weird, I always want to be an IC, it lets me get NKd, which is the best reward in this game.
UnvotePPE a bunch, I guess we both replied to pubby's case.
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