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[Eevee]

I'm pretty clueless about everything. Iguana seems towny.

Other scum faction having an extra vote makes some sense. The wagon was so quick, there is a good chance there is something going on, this being RMM.

[Teproc]

vote: Eevee

[iguanaiguana]

What about the double hated claim?

[Roadrunner7671]

What about the double hated claim?

Looks like Teproc wants to test it 

[Witherweaver]

I have reason to believe that I thought Iguana was town.

Gkrieg I'm slightly town on.  LaLight and Jake slightly as well. Not really sure on anyone else.  The thing in Puk could be circumstantial.  I guess that would be my default right now.

[Teproc]

What about the double hated claim?

What about it ? It doesn't make him town. We know about it and can be careful with an Eevee wagon (loudly announcing L-2 if it comes to it), but I don't see why Eevee would be out of my lynchpool.

[Witherweaver]

He claimed double hated? Or double as in, another hated?

[iguanaiguana]

What about the double hated claim?

What about it ? It doesn't make him town. We know about it and can be careful with an Eevee wagon (loudly announcing L-2 if it comes to it), but I don't see why Eevee would be out of my lynchpool.

Maybe L-3 since we think hidden votes can r be in play.

Eevee is on my shortlist for likely towns. I am very interested to hear why you find him scum.

[iguanaiguana]

L-4 even?  Goodnight world

[Archetype]

Vote Count 2.5

gkrieg13 (1): LaLight
ashersky (1): gkrieg13
Roadrunner7671 (1): Puk
Puk (2): ashersky, JaketheBaseballGod22
Witherweaver (3):  iguanaiguana, LaLight, pingpongsam
Eevee (1): Teproc

Not Voting (4): silverspawn, Eevee, Witherweaver, Roadrunner7671

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 2 will end on October 16th at 7:30 PM

[ashersky]

I'm pretty clueless about everything. Iguana seems towny.

Other scum faction having an extra vote makes some sense. The wagon was so quick, there is a good chance there is something going on, this being RMM.

Possible scumslip bolded.

It is explained away, of course, but non-schadd scum would of course call him the “other” scum faction.

And we have incontrovertible proof that scumslips exist now, so stop with the eye rolling.

[ashersky]

If Eevee is double-Hated, could it be related to schadd or Faust dying?  Any flavor sense to that?

[LaLight]

If Eevee is double-Hated, could it be related to schadd or Faust dying?  Any flavor sense to that?

Not that i can think of

[Puk]

I'm actually surprised only one person died last night. If there are (at least?) two scum factions, you would think there's more killing going on during the night.

[Eevee]

He claimed double hated? Or double as in, another hated?

I'm single-hated today, but double hated tomorrow unless I'm cured during the night.

[Teproc]

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day 1 will end on October 14th at 12:20 PM

I was wondering whether this was supposed to say took instead of takes.... and what that could mean... since only 7 lynched. Hidden vote?

There is stuff happening with the votes, and maybe people should vote more carefully. I'm double hated for instance (meaning i require two less votes to be lynched). I can be cured of this, but it has to do with flavor names and I don't know if it's going to be risky to claim whose help I'd need for that.

I'll point out that Eevee first claimed to be double hated, no mention of it evolving at first, and even when he mentions it:

Flavor does seem to matter here.

I can get cured of being being hated by being targeted by Skyler White. Revealing this information might be dangerous, but so would be being double-hated tomorrow, so I guess I'll just risk it.

it's not clear that he'd only be "normal" hated today.

I'm not sure it's scummy, really I'm voting Eevee for his post right above my vote which is just posting to say "Hi, I'm Eevee and I'm totally contributing", but worth discussing.

[Teproc]

Also ash, I don't think that's a scumslip at all, I was thinking in similar terms.

[Teproc]

If Eevee is double-Hated, could it be related to schadd or Faust dying?  Any flavor sense to that?

Interesting. Maybe. Probably not a good thing to speculate on in the thread I'd think.

[Eevee]

I'm not sure it's scummy, really I'm voting Eevee for his post right above my vote which is just posting to say "Hi, I'm Eevee and I'm totally contributing", but worth discussing.

My post said "Hi I'm Eevee and I'm not contributing, still trying to form opinion here I'm sorry!"

@ash

The hated mechanics are just a part of my role, doesn't have anything to do with anyone dying.

[Witherweaver]

Also ash, I don't think that's a scumslip at all, I was thinking in similar terms.

So you're both scum!

[iguanaiguana]

Teproc is unusual to me so far this game. I have not seen such a mediocre play from Teproc in any game of his that I've read (mostly games I've been in with him). I've been thinking about it, and it's hard for me to attach a scum narrative to it. I can see town!Teproc having an actual hard time forming reads or getting into a game that is basically dominated by me and WW, where he doesn't have a strong read on either of us. I can't really see scum!Teproc not having more to say than this so far. You'd think he would just make up something and then eloquence it to death.

So I'm mild town on Teproc right now.

[iguanaiguana]

Eevee modifying his claim is... not ideal. I still think the original claim is towny, but I need to think about why would anyone not just claim the reality (hated today, double hated tomorrow) from the outset. Mostly I just don't understand why anyone would do that, so then it doesn't seem like an alignment tell.

[iguanaiguana]

I'm actually surprised only one person died last night. If there are (at least?) two scum factions, you would think there's more killing going on during the night.

Why ignore everything everyone has said about you or asked you and just post this?

[Eevee]

Eevee modifying his claim is... not ideal. I still think the original claim is towny, but I need to think about why would anyone not just claim the reality (hated today, double hated tomorrow) from the outset. Mostly I just don't understand why anyone would do that, so then it doesn't seem like an alignment tell.

I just thought I wouldn't give scum any extra information, but when people started speculating, I thought I might just as well.

I'm not told if I'm cured or not by the way, so tomorrow only Skyler (I guess even they won't know if they were blocked) will know if I'm double-hated or not.

I guess Teproc also seems towny, as far as reads go.

[ashersky]

@eevee

Were you hated on D1?

@ii

A potentially towny reason to lie about double Hated would be to try and draw a quick hammer.  It’s probably mildly effective late in the game, and not so much now, and definitely not if you modify your claim downward.  So a possible towny reason exists, but doesn’t apply.  It’s also not really an Eevee style play.