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[Witherweaver]

If we believe that (3 scum, 2 something else, PPS) was the starting setup, then chairs is guaranteed town.

Also if we believe this then exactly one of WW/EFHW/Dylan is White.

Oh here we go. Cool.

I nearly forgot about this.
We are now guaranteed to be in this situation, and Efhw is Red.
Therefore WW is not town.

100% guaranteed. Everyone vote ww please.

You are wrong.

[iguanaiguana]

Haddock needs to get off his high horse lol

[Witherweaver]

Does anyone seriously doubt I have the role I claimed?  Go look at my hints dropped, my play, and my claim.

[Witherweaver]

If we believe that (3 scum, 2 something else, PPS) was the starting setup, then chairs is guaranteed town.

Also if we believe this then exactly one of WW/EFHW/Dylan is White.

Oh here we go. Cool.

I nearly forgot about this.
We are now guaranteed to be in this situation, and Efhw is Red.
Therefore WW is not town.

100% guaranteed. Everyone vote ww please.

I do not believe the setup is 3 scum 1 SK and 2 other faction. With 17 players, that's a very weak Mafia team.

[Witherweaver]

The lynch today should be Chairs or Dylan.

[Witherweaver]

Other things not taken into account: Switch (of investigation results), X-Shot Godfathers (would make for inconsistencies across nights).

[iguanaiguana]

Does anyone seriously doubt I have the role I claimed?  Go look at my hints dropped, my play, and my claim.

You could be a survivor cop.

[Witherweaver]

You'd have to find an example of one in RMM (I don't know of any), and then believe I can safely fakeclaim the role from the game that I have. (RMM 47)

[Witherweaver]

Sorry, RMM 31.

[iguanaiguana]

Yup

[iguanaiguana]

Not doing that homework until you seem like the best lynch.

[Witherweaver]

When did you discard the 5-2-pps theory?

Ironically, when WW pointed out the N3 thing:
Because there are no blues in the game any more (see earlier analysis), and Galz wasn't yellow, that means last night's 7 correct results can only be the exactly 7 people who I guessed were red and who haven't yet flipped scum.


Haddock: RED
e: RED
silver: RED
EFHW: RED
Galz: YELLOW
gkrieg: RED
Awaclus: RED
Swan: RED
Dylan: RED
chairs: RED
WW: BLUE
Iguana: BLUE
Jake: BLUE

(Ie since Galz, Awa and gkrieg were all wrong, and the blues are wrong, the remaining reds must be correct - I had 7 guesses correct in total)

That means there are at most 3 non town left, which voids the 5/2 theory.

I don't follow the last.  We've seen:

PPS (SK/Survivor alternate)
Schadd (Mafia)
Gkrieg (Mafia)
Awaclus (Mafia)

So there could be two Mafia and one Survivor/SK left, right?

[EFHW]

I agree with Haddock that 5/2/PPS means chairs is yellow=scum.

[EFHW]

If 5/2/PPS is right, there is also only ONE town in {Dylan, iguana, Jake, silver, WW}!

[EFHW]

If 5/2/PPS is right, there is also only ONE town in {Dylan, iguana, Jake, silver, WW}!

This is wrong, which is good.

[iguanaiguana]

If 5/2/PPS is right, there is also only ONE town in {Dylan, iguana, Jake, silver, WW}!

3 = awaclus, Gkrieg, schadd. 2/2 left.

If one must be chairs, 1/2 left.

So at most 3/5 of those are scum.

[iguanaiguana]

Don't forget to vote chairs once you realize that he must be scum ^^

[chairs]

Don't forget to vote iguana once I flip town.

I confirmed that hiding behind scum would make me die (and as such I now wish I'd been breadcrumbing my one hiding attempt), but my PM does not indicate hiding behind a Town who dies would make me die (it says I would be untargetable).

If I was going to fakeclaim don't you think I'd pick something that I'd be confident in claiming, rather than this "wait a second" bullshit I'm having to deal with from my actual goddamn role?

I hate this particular role, it's much better suited in the hands of someone who can do things like breadcrumbing etc better. I'd have much rather had a straight JK role, I particularly hate any sort of Hider variant.

Going to go reread the original role to see if there's any difference between my PM and the original.

[chairs]

Unfortunately the actual PM's wording is not shown anywhere in Gravity Falls (there's no Mod QT link that I found, and faust does not appear to have shared his QT) so I can't quote the Gravity Falls PM for you.

[Witherweaver]

Don't forget to vote iguana once I flip town.

I confirmed that hiding behind scum would make me die (and as such I now wish I'd been breadcrumbing my one hiding attempt), but my PM does not indicate hiding behind a Town who dies would make me die (it says I would be untargetable).

If I was going to fakeclaim don't you think I'd pick something that I'd be confident in claiming, rather than this "wait a second" bullshit I'm having to deal with from my actual goddamn role?

I hate this particular role, it's much better suited in the hands of someone who can do things like breadcrumbing etc better. I'd have much rather had a straight JK role, I particularly hate any sort of Hider variant.

Going to go reread the original role to see if there's any difference between my PM and the original.

Its not uncommon for scum to make their claims less neat and clean for this reason. Also, fakeclaims are provided, and you could just as easily misunderstand the details of the fakeclaim as your real claim.

[Witherweaver]

Iguana's play has been fairly townie, and he claims responsibility for two dead scum.  There are second faction and, I guess, SK possibilities.

[iguanaiguana]

Sorry for all the persecution chairs. I like you, just think you are scum and want to win. Hope there's no hard feelings.

[Witherweaver]

FYI, this is the original role Iguana is claiming, I believe:

Welcome to RMM43: Smallville Mafia!

You are Clark Kent, the Town Hero!

Only you can save the town (or so you think)! You have the following abilities:

Super Strength - You may target a player and kill them with your strength.

Super Speed (1-shot) - You may run away from Smallville for one night.

Each night, you may use any two abilities.

Also, if the town loses faith in you and lynches you, there will be very bad consequences! Smallville needs its heroes, and once they have lost faith in them, how will they ever rid their town of Villains!

Wincon
You win when The Villains have left Smallville for good!

[Witherweaver]

And his claim:

Realized that it's actually my turn to claim.

I am Clark Kent from Smallville Mafia (RMM 43).

I am an unlimited vigilante with a 1-shot commute. I can use any two abilities at night. In the original run of Smallville mafia, Clark Kent gained abilities as the game went on. However, I have not gotten any new abilities. Also, it also specifies that if I am lynched, there will be negative consequences for town.

N1 I didn't have strong enough scum reads to shoot - I had basically been focused all day on lynching PPS and had no other strong reads.

N2 I shot Galzria. My logic was that if he was town, he should be bulletproof and survive. Whereas if he was scum, he may not be bulletproof and I could kill him.

When he survived that kill shot and Space also confirmed that they had lost their item (and he said it was just the item he needed), it seemed that he must be the role he was claiming and I had a strong townread on him from that point on.

N3 I shot Gkrieg and redirected people targeting Haddock onto Datswan using my item. As a result, Awaclus died.

So I was responsble for both scum deaths last night.

My plan will be to both commute and shoot tonight. That way I can guarantee to get off at least two more shots before I die, unless we just win.

So I mean there is 0 chance Iguana is Mafia. The only thing he could be is SK, in which case he's claiming Vig as an SK, which is a bit iffy. It seems like it would be better to find partners first.

Also, we have not yet checked Awaclus interactions. Not sure there would be much to be found there.

[Witherweaver]

Iguana, why did you claim that you didn't use your Commute shot?