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[2.71828.....]

I am still alive because scum doesn't feel threatened by me because I have played a crappy game.

But mod lying is bastard, and the mod has me colored green, and I am town. Plus, roles are from actual games, scum IC doesn't exist

[iguanaiguana]

I am still alive because scum doesn't feel threatened by me because I have played a crappy game.

But mod lying is bastard, and the mod has me colored green, and I am town. Plus, roles are from actual games, scum IC doesn't exist

I got the IC to defend himself!

What do you think RE massclaim?

[2.71828.....]

I am still alive because scum doesn't feel threatened by me because I have played a crappy game.

But mod lying is bastard, and the mod has me colored green, and I am town. Plus, roles are from actual games, scum IC doesn't exist

I got the IC to defend himself!

What do you think RE massclaim?

I am not opposed to a mass claim

[2.71828.....]

I also want to know why people (WW) don't want to lynch Jake.

[2.71828.....]

 awaclus being around yet refusing to hammer... then awaclus flips scum. Protecting his partner?

We also need people to vote and figure out what was going on with the end of day vote count. Someone wasn't counting or some other shenanigans were happening.

[2.71828.....]

 Of course, awaclus and Jake parking on their partner gkrieg does seem unlikely, so there is that

[EFHW]

At this point I'm fairly certain I've been messed with at least once.  Gonna think about it more later, but right now I think the only possibility that is consistent with ALL my results is that there exist, now:

Either 0 or 1 scum (white)
and
2 yellows.

But then if we think PPS took up two colours, this makes the yellows either SKs or Survivors.  Which makes precisely no sense.

Assuming 4 scum, 2 independents, I can't get scum=white, blue or yellow to work out. There aren't enough wrong colors on the different nights.

Assuming 3 scum would mean we are looking for an SK now. An SK that didn't do any kills. I hope faust didn't give anyone that horrible SK role I had in Modern Community! I can't get 3 scum to work in any color on any night, anyway.

**5 yellow and 1 blue works for all the nights. 5 white and 5 blue don't work. This is just testing the wrong colors column.

[EFHW]

5 yellow (4 by then), 1 blue doesn't work N2. There should only be 1 wrong color.

Something does seem to be wrong.

[EFHW]

I always post too soon. Recalculating ...

[EFHW]

I still think there is something wrong.

iguana was talking about pairs. Are there any other roles that switched alignments like PPS? I feel like there are, but can't remember any specifically.

[chairs]

I'm okay with a mass claim.

I'm an odd night hider/commuter (If I target town I'm invulnerable to night actions even if the person I target dies from an NK, as opposed to standard Hider who IIRC dies to NK if the person they're Hiding behind gets killed), and an even-night JK.

I was unexpectedly VLA for N1 and didn't get to Hide, but on N2 I was around and JK'd DatSwan (hence my neutral feeling about him on D3 - had I prevented him from killing, or prevented him from getting killed?). On N3 I targetted Galzria.

I'm Robbie Valentino from RMM41.

Why did you target someone who said he was going to die at night?

Did you ever breadcrumb your hiding target in case you died behind scum?

Trusting him to be Town, I was confident it would save my butt if I myself was targeted (and I'm not a Weak Hider so hiding behind scum isn't like a Cop ability).

I did not breadcrumb my target, for the above reason.

[EFHW]

If anyone wants to check my work: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1icsuA1ms80DurUaE-yEDS2t_BtfzVHTT

[EFHW]

If anyone wants to check my work: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1icsuA1ms80DurUaE-yEDS2t_BtfzVHTT

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tYzVbV5W4ZMeakuCnQmEzXOR3O99IyDY

[Dylan32]

One of these flips is not like the other.

schadd has been modkilled for inactivity. They were Settlers of Catan (from RMM29), the Diverting Priest/Trading Traitor.

gkrieg13 has been killed! They were the Caitlyn Frost, also known as Killer Frost (from RMM45).

Yet somehow, EFHW seems to know something that wasn't actually flipped.

Still think WW looks scummy. Are we thinking 3 scum or 4 scum?

Like, I was the one behind lynching Gkrieg. It was other people that fought me on it.

gkrieg was traitor, so, unfortunately for me I guess as well as you two, voting him does not = towniness. [bold mine]

Vote: EFHW

[Witherweaver]

Still think WW looks scummy. Are we thinking 3 scum or 4 scum?

Like, I was the one behind lynching Gkrieg. It was other people that fought me on it.

gkrieg was traitor, so, unfortunately for me I guess as well as you two, voting him does not = towniness.

Oh, I did not realize that.

[Witherweaver]

I also want to know why people (WW) don't want to lynch Jake.

It's the right thing to do.

[Witherweaver]

I'm also highly suspicious of EFHW's little wobble:

I have to go any minute now. vote: Jake to be safe.

no, sorry, vote: gkrieg. I've lost my interest in voting Jake and I know I don't read gkrieg well, but I don't feel good about his posts today.

She did go back to Gkrieg, but the deliberation feels a bit fabricated to me.

What's my scum!motivation here?

Could just be to try to appear townie, or at least make people question why you would do it as scum. (I tend to do this latter thing.) Or maybe you just realized it's ultimately better off bussing Gkrieg.

[Witherweaver]

I also want to know why people (WW) don't want to lynch Jake.

It's the right thing to do.

Well, or to not do, as it were.

[Witherweaver]

I am still alive because scum doesn't feel threatened by me because I have played a crappy game.

But mod lying is bastard, and the mod has me colored green, and I am town. Plus, roles are from actual games, scum IC doesn't exist

The argument I think is that there have been RMMs with alignment changing mechanisms. Nothing guarantees you could not have had your alignment changed after being declared an IC, and this wouldn't be made public.

I think it's unlikely, but not unpossible.

[Witherweaver]

awaclus being around yet refusing to hammer... then awaclus flips scum. Protecting his partner?

We also need people to vote and figure out what was going on with the end of day vote count. Someone wasn't counting or some other shenanigans were happening.

Should we all vote someone and get a vote count? We can just have everyone vote for the next (not dead) person on the signup list.

[Witherweaver]

I'll start; skipping Silverspawn since he can't vote.

Vote: EFHW

[Witherweaver]

So this order:

1. LaLight replaced by EFHW
2. ashersky
3. Haddock
4. Awaclus
5. gkrieg13
6. SpaceAnemone
7. pingpongsam
8. schadd
9. chairs
10. 2.71828.....
11. DatSwan
12. JaketheBaseballGod22
13. Galzria
14. Dylan32
15. iguanaiguana
16. Witherweaver
17. silverspawn

So EFHW vote for Haddock, Haddock for Chairs, etc.

[EFHW]

One of these flips is not like the other.

schadd has been modkilled for inactivity. They were Settlers of Catan (from RMM29), the Diverting Priest/Trading Traitor.

gkrieg13 has been killed! They were the Caitlyn Frost, also known as Killer Frost (from RMM45).

Yet somehow, EFHW seems to know something that wasn't actually flipped.

Still think WW looks scummy. Are we thinking 3 scum or 4 scum?

Like, I was the one behind lynching Gkrieg. It was other people that fought me on it.

gkrieg was traitor, so, unfortunately for me I guess as well as you two, voting him does not = towniness. [bold mine]

Vote: EFHW

Did you read the role in the original game? It's a traitor role.

[EFHW]

I'll start; skipping Silverspawn since he can't vote.

Vote: EFHW

This looks like a wagon, after Dylan's vote, when it's just an experiment.

[Witherweaver]

I'll start; skipping Silverspawn since he can't vote.

Vote: EFHW

This looks like a wagon, after Dylan's vote, when it's just an experiment.

It's not a wagon; Dylan should vote for his correct person. Once we all do that we can go back to regular voting.