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[Galzria]

given the crew currently in space I could find a switch. Hour left I need to think for a minute.

Well, Town!Space & Scum!Swan is out the window.

See it’s things like this that make me think it neeeedddsss to be Galz. This is clearly a set up of Skum Galz!Space when Galz knows his guy is going down to further try and sell me tomorrow. Is no one really willing to consider this as a better lynch??

I mean if not whatever I will continue to think for like 10 minutes on my Space switxhand get back.

Logic does not parse.

If Space is town, and you are scum, then with the caveat that they could be poisoned you would've come in and hammered. No real reason not to as scum. But you didn't. You posted instead. That suggests that more likely than not the pairing of "Town!Space & Scum!Swan" is not accurate. There are 3 other options that are all still possible though: Scum!Space/Town!Swan, Town!Space/Town!Swan, and Scum!Space/Scum!Swan.

It was simply a comment on your lack of hammer - something others have noted (as they should) as well.

[Robz888]

Vote Count 4.7

faust (1): 2.71828
Galzria (2): DatSwan, SpaceAnemone
SpaceAnemone (5): O, Teproc, Galzria, Qvist, Eevee
DatSwan (2): faust, RoadRuner7671

Not Voting (0):

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day 4 ends on October 10 at 4:00 PM.

[SpaceAnemone]

given the crew currently in space I could find a switch. Hour left I need to think for a minute.

Well, Town!Space & Scum!Swan is out the window.

See it’s things like this that make me think it neeeedddsss to be Galz. This is clearly a set up of Skum Galz!Space when Galz knows his guy is going down to further try and sell me tomorrow. Is no one really willing to consider this as a better lynch??

I mean if not whatever I will continue to think for like 10 minutes on my Space switxhand get back.

Are you trying to use "his guy" to refer to me here? Not a guy, thanks! Also not scum, but that part you maybe know already :-(

[SpaceAnemone]

Argh.. still cooking. Please someone post a decent case on why I'm more likely to be scum than Galz or Eevee or e, rather than just saying that those are people who're less likely to have time for a lynch wagon to form :-(

[Teproc]

DatSwan has been referring to you with masculine pronouns yes, I forgot to correct him earlier (to DatSwan: Space prefers "they").

[Teproc]

Argh.. still cooking. Please someone post a decent case on why I'm more likely to be scum than Galz or Eevee or e, rather than just saying that those are people who're less likely to have time for a lynch wagon to form :-(

You're less likely to be town than e or Eevee because you're not townie (granted you're not explicitely scummy all that much).

You became less likely to be town than Galz with DatSwan not hammering. Well, you could be poisoned town still.

For me, the case on you is mostly PoE + you not being townie.

[Swowl]

given the crew currently in space I could find a switch. Hour left I need to think for a minute.

Well, Town!Space & Scum!Swan is out the window.

See it’s things like this that make me think it neeeedddsss to be Galz. This is clearly a set up of Skum Galz!Space when Galz knows his guy is going down to further try and sell me tomorrow. Is no one really willing to consider this as a better lynch??

I mean if not whatever I will continue to think for like 10 minutes on my Space switxhand get back.

Are you trying to use "his guy" to refer to me here? Not a guy, thanks! Also not scum, but that part you maybe know already :-(

Apologies. Force of habit.

[SpaceAnemone]

For me, the case on you is mostly PoE + you not being townie.

This is as townie as I get!! You've played in games with me before.. have you seen my mislynch stats for being too robotic or not engaged enough or too self-conscious or whatever else people accuse me of? I can't help it.. this is just how I play/type/talk/whatever :-(

[Galzria]

Argh.. still cooking. Please someone post a decent case on why I'm more likely to be scum than Galz or Eevee or e, rather than just saying that those are people who're less likely to have time for a lynch wagon to form :-(

If he's town, e is more valuable than you here, sorry. The ability to RB and definitively stop a NK is worth more than an incriminating result that creates a 50/50 choice in a mislynch and lose scenario.

Eevee is more scummy than you by miles and miles. Teproc and O won't vote there though, and they're required to lynch scum here (granting them town status). As I do believe that one of the two of you are scum, and Tep/O believe it to be you, here I am. I'll be the first to admit my own reads have been all gut with nothing to support them this game. Pure gut says Eevee/e/Faust. If you look back at my posts throughout the game you'll see that's supported since D1. But I very well may be wrong, so.... :-/

[Teproc]

For me, the case on you is mostly PoE + you not being townie.

This is as townie as I get!! You've played in games with me before.. have you seen my mislynch stats for being too robotic or not engaged enough or too self-conscious or whatever else people accuse me of? I can't help it.. this is just how I play/type/talk/whatever :-(

I think I've only played Smallville with you ? I did suspect you initially there, but you got much townier at the game went on and you got a lot of pressure.

I don't think you're robotic or self-conscious, nor do I think those traits would be scummy for you (though "robotic" would never have come tp mind really)... but I don't feel like you've really been trying to contribute to finding scum. You've done a lot of analysis (which I know is your thing) but it never feels like it's to a purpose other than seeming to be active.

And maybe I'm wrong about that, and if I am then I'm sorry. But that's what it looks like to me.

[SpaceAnemone]

You're less likely to be town than e or Eevee because you're not townie (granted you're not explicitely scummy all that much).

Good, let's start from here. You say I'm not townie. At best, you might grant me that my style is something that gets me mislynched a lot... so clearly since I'm town most of the time (as is everyone; though me in particular it seems!) it's in my best interest to correct that if possible, and its persistence is something that's unfortunate for my play, but not quite enough to make me give up in frustration. (Some of the people around here really are nice people... even faust).

Now look at the things people have actually done, rather than the elegance or not of how they've presented them, or how much of them they've had time to do. I can post a complete voting history of the game if you and O want to see, coloured up with whatever player colours you guys need to see the actual voting patterns. Would that help at all?

[SpaceAnemone]

Eevee is more scummy than you by miles and miles. Teproc and O won't vote there though, and they're required to lynch scum here (granting them town status).

Argh.. I wanted so much for you to be wrong on the mason block needing to be involved, but I guess you're mostly right. Though technically we only need one of them to agree, and then all of the actual-town people. It's very convenient for you to find a high-likelihood scummy player unvotable, though :-(

[Swowl]

I do not see this being a better lynch than Faust or Galz. If we are right that is just awesome but if we are wrong we kill a friendly PR and unless poisoned etc.... lose like on the spot.

I guess we could gain the info from a mislynch that Eevee would look skummy if Space flips Town, but that is just such a shitty reason to do it over Faust or Galz.

I am aware of the time left.

[Galzria]

Eevee is more scummy than you by miles and miles. Teproc and O won't vote there though, and they're required to lynch scum here (granting them town status).

Argh.. I wanted so much for you to be wrong on the mason block needing to be involved, but I guess you're mostly right. Though technically we only need one of them to agree, and then all of the actual-town people. It's very convenient for you to find a high-likelihood scummy player unvotable, though :-(

Sorry.

Unfortunately if I say Up, Teproc says down. I say black, he says white. I say Eevee is scummy, and he's certain not to vote there.

[Eevee]

I think we should lynch Space.

[2.71828.....]

Vote: Datswan

[2.71828.....]

I feel like DatSwan is the best lynch we can actually do

[Robz888]

Vote Count 4.8

Galzria (2): DatSwan, SpaceAnemone
SpaceAnemone (5): O, Teproc, Galzria, Qvist, Eevee
DatSwan (3): faust, RoadRuner7671, 2.71828

Not Voting (0):

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day 4 ends on October 10 at 4:00 PM.

[2.71828.....]

I will vote space in the next 20 minutes of nothing happens though

[Teproc]

Space, I'm not criticizing your overall playstyle Space, though if you're town I suppose I am, for this particular game anyway.

No, the voting thing doesn't help. Partly because I keep a vote count myself, but even then because that's just information that's readily available. It's helpful, but plenty of people can be helpful as scum (I sure can), and I believe scum!you would do this stuff, simply because collecting information is something you enjoy doing (I can sympathize).

I can't tell you how to be townie, by definition really, townie is just "doing stuff that makes me think you're town".

[Teproc]

Hey, we don't lose the game ! Wait no, could still be Galz/Eevee/faust/RR.

[Eevee]

It's not!

[Galzria]

It's not!

[Teproc]

Also, Space, it's on both the mislynchers and the mislynchee when a mislynch happen, so if that turns out to be the case, well, I'll try to recalibrate and try to understand why I got you wrong this time around. It's by this process that I've arrived at not lynching faust in this game... something I might well be wrong about, but you know, it's all just educated guesswork anyway.

PPE: Yeah, if one of you is town (and assume myself O and Qvist are town) you know we're getting another day regardless.

[2.71828.....]

A lynch hasn't happened yet....

Why does teproc act like one has?