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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1300 on: August 31, 2017, 04:22:34 am »

To clarify b): you might think Andrew's claim is townie because of its content, and that's fine, I happen to agree there. Not because the content is "right" but because you think it's not the claim scum!Andrew would make, or something. But it's not inherently more townie than a VT claim.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1301 on: August 31, 2017, 04:43:03 am »

So I'd like to now: Andrew, DatSwan, I get that you want to lynch chairs. Who do you NOT want to lynch though ? Who, among the three other people in your lynchpool, do you think is least likely to be scum ?

I'd advise rereading them before answering that. Make sure. Don't rely on whatever your feelings were during the game, because now (with RR and XRaptor flipping) we have hard data.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1302 on: August 31, 2017, 04:43:13 am »

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1303 on: August 31, 2017, 09:14:13 am »

Sorry, I know this is a critical game juncture but I don't know when I'm going to be able to make a post more meaningful than "Hi I haven't forgotten this". Possibly tonight, but if not it won't be until like Tuesday.

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1304 on: August 31, 2017, 03:20:24 pm »

I feel like the way RR pushes Galz is not really how I would picture RR talking to his partner. I also think it seems like chairs jumps on RR and xxraptor reluctantly and sheeps Teproc at one point, so significantly scummier to me. I'm pretty confident DatSwan is town based on his suspicions on RR and his "mistake" vote on Skumpy yesterday.

So I'm pretty sure we're looking at scum!chairs here. If he flips town then I'd really be stumped, considering psychotrooper is a thing. I guess I'd go with Galz though and just hope it wasn't used N2.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1305 on: August 31, 2017, 07:58:32 pm »

DatSwan, I think you're confusing certain elements here.

a) Andrew inherited Cop, not Tracker. He didn't claim you "didn't go anywhere" on N2, he claimed he got a Town result on you. Regardless... you claimed VT, remember ? Town knows exactly what you did each night because you told them in the thread.

b) All claims are safe claims for scum. VT, Universal Backup, Watcher. Those are all safe claims, because scum knows exacly what the setup is. One is not more suspicious than the other

Which leads me to

c) Have you reread chairs ? Because what you get from that is about five thousand times more important than him claiming VT, or your general impressions on the game so far. WHen someone flips scum, reset, look at the game as if you hadn't been in it since know you have crucial new information.

I'm not entirely sure who I want to lynch yet. I've figured out one person I don't want to, but I'm not sure beyond that. Going into the night, I though "well we lynch chairs tomorrow and we probably win, easy peasy" but I'm a little wary now, and it doesn't seem to me like the you (Andrew and DatSwan) are making sure this is what we want to do. I mean, chairs hasn't even posted yet.

Rereading is annoying, and I'm sure you're annoyed at me because I'm bossing people around (something I tend to do anyway but being an IC makes it worse). I'm sorry about that. But I think rereading everyone alive (well, everyone who could be scum at least, you can probably skip me) should be a prerequisite before voting at this point in the game.

No problem man. I mean I agree with the re reading idea. I did give everyone a glance. I actually went back and re read through some other late mafia games that ya'll have participated in on the forums. But, as we are in game time mode now, I will take the advice and give chairs another read. I don't think it is annoying, it is kind of the part that makes it fun :P

To elaborate on the first points:
1) Was reading XXR while typing out Andrew thing. I just mixed up. I understand the differences.
2) I would like to point out that they are not actually exactly the same in value of claim. I mean in a situation where skum actually knows literally 100% of which roles are on and off and who belongs to who (meaning 0% of false results, or never missing at night, and just everything) THENNNNN, yes it is the same. It was more of just to point out the differences between Andrew claim and his claim. Andrew claimed a PR and IMO gave sound reasoning I think is at least mostly accurate if not entirely. I do not think Galz is skum. I know you (IC) are not skum. and I know I am not skum. So I voted for chairs.

Answering your next post in this one too. As mentioned above, I will give chairs another re read. I am off the rest of the day so I will post later this evening on it. unvote
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1306 on: August 31, 2017, 08:00:16 pm »

So I'd like to now: Andrew, DatSwan, I get that you want to lynch chairs. Who do you NOT want to lynch though ? Who, among the three other people in your lynchpool, do you think is least likely to be scum ?

I'd advise rereading them before answering that. Make sure. Don't rely on whatever your feelings were during the game, because now (with RR and XRaptor flipping) we have hard data.

Fair enough question. Skummiest to Towniest:
Chairs
Andrew
Galz
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (N0!)
« Reply #1307 on: September 01, 2017, 02:20:39 am »

Vote Count 5.1

chairs (1): AndrewisFTTW,
Not voting (4): Galzria, chairs, Teproc, DatSwan

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Day 5 ends Wednesday, 6th of September at 4.30am.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1308 on: September 01, 2017, 08:29:45 am »

Alright, so the plan is:

chairs is going to do his whole rereading and saying where that gets him on Tuesday. In the meantime, Galz should do the same, and we can discuss where we want to go from there. But we're not lynching anyone before Tuesday.

People should feel free to vote, I just don't want a hammer before chairs gets a chance to give his thoughts.   

If people could try and be around on Tuesday so that we can make sure we don't miss the deadline either.

Actually: given that a player is going to be V/LA for most of the day, can we get an extension of 24 hours ?
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1309 on: September 01, 2017, 08:33:37 am »

Alright, so the plan is:

chairs is going to do his whole rereading and saying where that gets him on Tuesday. In the meantime, Galz should do the same, and we can discuss where we want to go from there. But we're not lynching anyone before Tuesday.

People should feel free to vote, I just don't want a hammer before chairs gets a chance to give his thoughts.   

If people could try and be around on Tuesday so that we can make sure we don't miss the deadline either.

Actually: given that a player is going to be V/LA for most of the day, can we get an extension of 24 hours ?

Sure.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (N0!)
« Reply #1310 on: September 01, 2017, 08:33:58 am »

Vote Count 5.2

chairs (1): AndrewisFTTW
Not voting (4): Galzria, chairs, Teproc, DatSwan

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Day 5 ends Thursday, 7th of September at 4.30am.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1311 on: September 01, 2017, 09:19:05 am »

Thanks. We'll still lynch on Tuesday, ideally, but that way we won't have to be too worried about the deadline.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1312 on: September 03, 2017, 04:03:41 am »

I know we're waiting for chairs but we're still allowed to post. Galz, I want to hear from you: have you reread yet ? Who do you think is most/least likely to be scum in your lynchpool ?
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1313 on: September 03, 2017, 12:11:09 pm »

I know we're waiting for chairs but we're still allowed to post. Galz, I want to hear from you: have you reread yet ? Who do you think is most/least likely to be scum in your lynchpool ?

Yes, I've reread. But I'll wait to hear from Chairs before posting (also, like every weekend, nearly 0 availability until Monday).
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1314 on: September 03, 2017, 01:47:16 pm »

I know we're waiting for chairs but we're still allowed to post. Galz, I want to hear from you: have you reread yet ? Who do you think is most/least likely to be scum in your lynchpool ?

Yes, I've reread. But I'll wait to hear from Chairs before posting (also, like every weekend, nearly 0 availability until Monday).

Fine.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1315 on: September 03, 2017, 09:21:31 pm »

Look fam, I'm going to be honest here, I don't think I win this one regardless and my availability is going to continue to be an issue all week. It's been fun but I think I really pooched it D2 (even though holy shit I felt good about things on D1).

I'm scum.

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1316 on: September 03, 2017, 10:10:04 pm »

This was so much fun and I hope to play again!
vote: chairs
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1317 on: September 03, 2017, 10:10:42 pm »

Look fam, I'm going to be honest here, I don't think I win this one regardless and my availability is going to continue to be an issue all week. It's been fun but I think I really pooched it D2 (even though holy shit I felt good about things on D1).

I'm scum.

vote: chairs

Aww, wish you hadn't thrown it in. I mean, you were probably the lynch today (it's where I was going) - but still.

I really came around on the scum team D3. My flip to town!Faust really solved the game for me.

vote: chairs

Make it official.
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SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1318 on: September 03, 2017, 10:16:42 pm »

Lol flip town for no reason and give me a cool story pleaseeeee
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D3)
« Reply #1319 on: September 03, 2017, 10:42:00 pm »

Here's a question for those interested in considering it (easier for Faust and I)

Vote Count 1.4

faust (1): Roadrunner7671
Robz888 (3): Galzria, chairs, Xxraptorslayer96
JaketheBaseballGod22 (5): faust, Robz888, The_Wine_Merchant, Skumpy, gkrieg13
Skumpy (1): JaketheBaseballGod22

Not voting (3): DatSwan, Teproc, AndrewisFTTW

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends Sunday, August 6 at 1:00 pm forum time. I am VLA till tomorrow,
 so the twilight will be quite long, sorry for any inconvenience.


If I believe Skumpy (If he's scum, scum wins) and Faust to be town (or him to believe so of me): The game started with 10 town, 3 scum. Teproc is town and not voting above. Do you believe 8 of the 9 entire remaining town comprise the entirety of the Robz/Jake wagon above? That's a hell of a consensus for town D1.

This is the end of day vote:

Vote Count 1.final:

Robz888 (7): Galzria, chairs, Xxraptorslayer96, Skumpy, gkrieg13, Roadrunner7671, Teproc
JaketheBaseballGod22 (3): faust, Robz888, The_Wine_Merchant
Skumpy (1): JaketheBaseballGod22

Not voting (2): DatSwan, AndrewisFTTW

The only notable addition is Roadrunner, but now there are 11 voters so there MUST be at least one scum voting. If Faust is town, I think it's highly improbable that all 8 players in the first count were town. This leaves possible scum in {Raptor, Chairs}. With the same assumption regarding Faust in the bottom vote, there IS at least one scum in {Raptor, Chairs, RR} - and unless you believe that BOTH {Andrew, DatSwan} are scum,  then it means that there's probably 2 scum in {Raptor, Chairs, RR}, and at least one in {Raptor, Chairs}.

I wasn't considering all 3 as the leading theory at the time, but still.

Faust, still gonna argue my methods? :)
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1320 on: September 03, 2017, 10:43:51 pm »

((Tongue-in-cheek)). That post only came around because I became convinced you were town.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1321 on: September 03, 2017, 10:50:55 pm »

LaLiiiiight.... lock and unlock the thread....
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1322 on: September 03, 2017, 10:53:12 pm »

Robz... I'm sorry for lynching you D1!
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1323 on: September 03, 2017, 10:53:38 pm »

 And Jake.... man.... town gotta stop self voting.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D5)
« Reply #1324 on: September 03, 2017, 11:00:10 pm »

Can we see the mafia thread for the 5 mins following the XXR claim
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