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[AndrewisFTTW]

The thing is: Galz reversing his read on faust is pretty ballsy as scum if he did that. Which, Galz is a ballsy scum player, definitely, but still. You're making a lynch you really, really want to happen much harder and enabling a possible scum lynch.  Not to mention he did not hesitate to get on the RR wagon. That's pretty overwhelming... I'm willing to hear arguments that Galz is scum, but they'll need to be pretty damn convincing as far as I'm concerned.

I see what you mean but hesitating on a scum lynch would be pretty telling after the fact. I think his best option as scum would be to sheep the IC and bus his partner for cred. That said, maybe we should look elsewhere today but I don't think this clears him.

Not sure about the massclaim. What exactly do you hope to achieve with it besides satisfying your curiosity?

[Teproc]

Well, scum most likely knows everything there is to know already. Might as well force them to chose what they want to claim now rather than on their own terms.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Well, scum most likely knows everything there is to know already. Might as well force them to chose what they want to claim now rather than on their own terms.

I think they've probably figured out their fakeclaims already. How does a massclaim benefit town?

[Swowl]

I am not familiar with how a mass claim works in this context. You are asking for, in the order given, for people to claim their role? Does this include PRs?

[chairs]

I am not familiar with how a mass claim works in this context. You are asking for, in the order given, for people to claim their role? Does this include PRs?

That's.. pretty much the gameplan, yup.

[Swowl]

that is an unhelpful answer. Do PR roles go on the post?

[chairs]

that is an unhelpful answer. Do PR roles go on the post?

Yes.

You also claim your actions.

[Teproc]

Yes. You claim your role and actions.

[Teproc]

Please don't let this prevent you from doing the usual stuff: in this case rereading RR and looking at interactions between him and other people to find his partners.

[Teproc]

Well, scum most likely knows everything there is to know already. Might as well force them to chose what they want to claim now rather than on their own terms.

I think they've probably figured out their fakeclaims already. How does a massclaim benefit town?

It's information that scum already has (remember: they know the setup and have had 3 uses of flavor cop + 2 VT claims to PoE PRs) so we might as well get it out there... and yes, scum most likely knows what they want to claim, but they have to commit now.

[Swowl]

Well, scum most likely knows everything there is to know already. Might as well force them to chose what they want to claim now rather than on their own terms.

I think they've probably figured out their fakeclaims already. How does a massclaim benefit town?

It's information that scum already has (remember: they know the setup and have had 3 uses of flavor cop + 2 VT claims to PoE PRs) so we might as well get it out there... and yes, scum most likely knows what they want to claim, but they have to commit now.

Minus whatever was blocked by Faust of course. And since we have had deaths all nights....
 with the exception of last night, we know know it is likely he missed skum on the first two nights. Or I guess hit a skum not carrying out a kill and blocked a pr.
When I look at it I wanna say that he wouldn't of blocked me because in his head I was too obv of a choice.... so if I were skum who would Faust think my partner to be? Bc I feel like that is who he would of blocked and obv that person isn't skum if Faust is dead.

Going to re read tomorrow and let you know what I think

[Teproc]

Whoever faust blocked last night might still be scum, because there are still two scum around.

Also, the whole point of massclaiming is that we can discuss that with actual info, so let's postpone that. If you're looking for stuff to do, I'll redirect you to RR.

Not sure how no one has come up with a RR reread yet. That's, like, mafia 101: scum flips, you reread them and see what that brings you.

[Teproc]

I guess you said you would. Still worth noting.

[Teproc]

I've just realized the twinclaimers all have a V/LA, that explains the lack of activity here I suppose.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Whoever faust blocked last night might still be scum, because there are still two scum around.

Also, the whole point of massclaiming is that we can discuss that with actual info, so let's postpone that. If you're looking for stuff to do, I'll redirect you to RR.

Not sure how no one has come up with a RR reread yet. That's, like, mafia 101: scum flips, you reread them and see what that brings you.

I've been busy and this weekend will be busy too. I'll probably get around to it on Monday.

[Xxraptorslayer96]

Galz, datSwan and I should be move active today. On my way into work. Give me an hour to get settled and I'll type out clam and actions

[chairs]

Sorry about not posting yesterday, I couldn't log in. Will catch up shortly.

[chairs]

Okay, looks like I'm still waiting on raptor to claim before I'm supposed to. I'll check back later.

[Xxraptorslayer96]

Sorry i got caughtup guys. I am the Time Management Training.  I tracked DatSwan N1, he didn't go anywhere. I tracked Faust N2 and he visited Chairs. N3 i tracked Galz and he did not go anywhere.

[Galzria]

Faust targeted Me N1. He targeted Skumpy N2. Not Chairs.

Am I missing something?

[Galzria]

There's no redirecting role, so...

vote: Raptor

[Galzria]

Don't snap lynch.

Tep, we finishing claims?

[Galzria]

Can somebody not as lazy as me produce a short vote history for each player throughout the game (better yet if it includes "stated would vote but hasn't")? If not I'll get around to looking at the people I'm most interested in at some point today. Deadline is 3:00pm forum time tomorrow though.

Skumpy: The problem, as you've noted, is the lack of any sort of consensus amongst town players. I'll lynch anybody except Teproc, Me, or you. My preferred order is pretty clear by now (Chairs, RR, Raptor?, DatSwan, Andrew, Faust*) - and Faust is only not #1 based entirely on that single post (Teproc's read plays a small part. At the very least I know it's not disingenuous, even if it's not right).

Here's a question for those interested in considering it (easier for Faust and I)

Vote Count 1.4

faust (1): Roadrunner7671
Robz888 (3): Galzria, chairs, Xxraptorslayer96
JaketheBaseballGod22 (5): faust, Robz888, The_Wine_Merchant, Skumpy, gkrieg13
Skumpy (1): JaketheBaseballGod22

Not voting (3): DatSwan, Teproc, AndrewisFTTW

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends Sunday, August 6 at 1:00 pm forum time. I am VLA till tomorrow,
 so the twilight will be quite long, sorry for any inconvenience.

If I believe Skumpy (If he's scum, scum wins) and Faust to be town (or him to believe so of me): The game started with 10 town, 3 scum. Teproc is town and not voting above. Do you believe 8 of the 9 entire remaining town comprise the entirety of the Robz/Jake wagon above? That's a hell of a consensus for town D1.

This is the end of day vote:

Vote Count 1.final:

Robz888 (7): Galzria, chairs, Xxraptorslayer96, Skumpy, gkrieg13, Roadrunner7671, Teproc
JaketheBaseballGod22 (3): faust, Robz888, The_Wine_Merchant
Skumpy (1): JaketheBaseballGod22

Not voting (2): DatSwan, AndrewisFTTW

The only notable addition is Roadrunner, but now there are 11 voters so there MUST be at least one scum voting. If Faust is town, I think it's highly improbable that all 8 players in the first count were town. This leaves possible scum in {Raptor, Chairs}. With the same assumption regarding Faust in the bottom vote, there IS at least one scum in {Raptor, Chairs, RR} - and unless you believe that BOTH {Andrew, DatSwan} are scum,  then it means that there's probably 2 scum in {Raptor, Chairs, RR}, and at least one in {Raptor, Chairs}.

That logic for Faust should be exactly the same if he believes I'm town. For everybody not!Faust/Galzria, it's obviously a little different. But still worth looking at.

As an expanded note: If I am unsure on Faust, I still have one scum in {Raptor, Chairs, RR, Faust} guaranteed, with 2 likely (unless DatSwan and Andrew are both scum).

Based on ALL of that (much of which is, I admit, a rehash of thoughts from before), I would still be happiest lynching Chairs, but could do Raptor or RR about equally.

Gonna look through D2 counts later today.

<3

[Skumpy]

Kinda wish you hadn't said anything so we could see what he's up to the rest of the day.

I've got some comments two, but I'll hold off for now. I agree with Galzria, I motion that we suspend the massclaim until his Honor Teproc instructs otherwise.

[Galzria]

Kinda wish you hadn't said anything so we could see what he's up to the rest of the day.

I've got some comments two, but I'll hold off for now. I agree with Galzria, I motion that we suspend the massclaim until his Honor Teproc instructs otherwise.

While I get the sentiment, it wasn't going to go un-pointed out.