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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #575 on: August 10, 2017, 09:39:55 pm »

Ehhh....

TWM has moved down my "want to lynch" list for now I think. I'm not convinced he's not scum... but i'm even less convinced scum!TWM sells himself this hard to get Jake lynched. If Jake is town TWM isn't fucked... but damn that's pretty awful. And if Jake is scum... Well, MAYBE this makes sense as partners... but it feels highly unnecessary.
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #576 on: August 10, 2017, 10:23:54 pm »

Anyone else feel like Galz and TWM are teamed?
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #577 on: August 10, 2017, 10:26:32 pm »

Anyone else feel like Galz and TWM are teamed?

Nope, just you.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #578 on: August 10, 2017, 10:37:45 pm »

Anyone else feel like Galz and TWM are teamed?
I feel like TWM is town.
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Town Wins (4-11) 26.7% M88L, M89L, NM9L, M91L, M95L, M97L,NM10W, RMM41L, M100L, M103L, M105W, M107W, RMM45W, M109L, RMM46L

Scum Wins (2-3) 40% M87L, M94W, ZM23L, M99L, ZM24W

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #579 on: August 10, 2017, 10:49:16 pm »

Anyone else feel like Galz and TWM are teamed?
Team town! (I hope)
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (N0!)
« Reply #580 on: August 11, 2017, 01:55:33 am »

About Jake. This is his wagon at peak:

JaketheBaseballGod22 (5): faust, Robz888, The_Wine_Merchant, Skumpy, gkrieg13

Both players who since flipped town are on there. I am town, of course you don't know that, and I have town reads on TWM and Skumpy. So it is very much possible that this is an all-town wagon. Which is definitely interesting for an easy mislynch like Jake.

It also was not a quick wagon, but happened over the course of a hundred posts, plenty of time for scum to join in unsuspiciously.

So yeah, combined with the 1-shot Commuter thing (which I remember at the beginning of the game and then forgot) that I think makes Galzria more likely to be town, I am ready to vote: Jake again.
Only problem is that gkrieg later voted robz and robz didn't really have a choice of where to vote because it was me or him.
It wasn't at the time he first placed his vote.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #581 on: August 11, 2017, 01:56:59 am »

More though, I think he was coached to play it quiet.
Why would this be something scum does?
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #582 on: August 11, 2017, 01:58:09 am »

Right. Let's just let totally scummy behavior get a complete pass and instead. Let's lynch the townies that are actually scum hunting and playing the game. Cause that is totally going to work.

Look at what Jake has done today and yesterday. Answer=nothing. Teproc, are you ok with Jake completely ignoring my questions to him? Is that something you are ok with letting pass? Instead, let's lynch Galz or faust or me, who even if they (I am not) are scum, are at least doing townie things. Right? I mean, the Robz lynch yesterday was flat out bad. He hadn't done anything scummy and was playing, but some how became the default lynch because, well, I don't really know why.

It is too bad. Too damn bad.
This drunk speaks the truth.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #583 on: August 11, 2017, 02:02:29 am »

More though, I think he was coached to play it quiet.
Why would this be something scum does?

What? It's been done in countless games before. Are you intentionally asking ignorant questions? Why would scum coach to lurk...? LOL
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #584 on: August 11, 2017, 02:03:49 am »

A little confused as to why Andrew votes Galz over Jake when he says he likes faust's case. If you're not voting Jake, clearly there's something you don't like it.

My only hesitation is Jake is doing anything I wouldn't expect Jake to do. Galz's VT claim on the other hand is silly and weird and I think scum!Galz could just be trying to throw us off.
I just disagree with basically everything Galzria says. But it may just be that way; I mean, I feel the same about Teproc, and the guy confirmed town.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #585 on: August 11, 2017, 02:06:18 am »

More though, I think he was coached to play it quiet.
Why would this be something scum does?

What? It's been done in countless games before. Are you intentionally asking ignorant questions? Why would scum coach to lurk...? LOL
Yes, that is what I am asking. Instead of trying to ridicule me, you could just try to answer my questions for a change. It might help keep this civil, unless it is your plan to intentionally rile people up.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #586 on: August 11, 2017, 02:09:29 am »

More though, I think he was coached to play it quiet.
Why would this be something scum does?

What? It's been done in countless games before. Are you intentionally asking ignorant questions? Why would scum coach to lurk...? LOL
Yes, that is what I am asking. Instead of trying to ridicule me, you could just try to answer my questions for a change. It might help keep this civil, unless it is your plan to intentionally rile people up.

I just... sorry. I don't understand. You're both smarter than your question leads to believe, and you've been around long enough to know the answer already... so coming from you feels intentionally ignorant - and I don't mean that uncivillaly (not actually a word)... just that your question feels forced to feign ignorance as to why scum might do that. From Skumpy, or DatSwan, or XxRaptor, sure. But not you.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #587 on: August 11, 2017, 02:20:57 am »

Still no answer...
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #588 on: August 11, 2017, 02:33:03 am »

Anyone else feel like Galz and TWM are teamed?

Yes.
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Losses: M40, M43, M45, BM17 (?), RMM13, RMM17, RMM20, NM7, ZM18, M100, M109
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #589 on: August 11, 2017, 02:34:05 am »

Well I do think TWM is acting towny, but if Galz flips scum I'll be looking at TWM.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #590 on: August 11, 2017, 02:34:20 am »

Anyone else feel like Galz and TWM are teamed?

Nope, just you.

So scummy.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #591 on: August 11, 2017, 02:42:19 am »

Still no answer...

Actually, I did answer. The first time. You just choose to ignore it. But fine, let me spell it out for you in more detail:

A) It's far easier to slip up when talking than when not.
B) f.ds doesn't usually actually lynch lurkers.
C) Playing quiet as newbie scum has been a tried and proven method

Would you like more?
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #592 on: August 11, 2017, 02:47:02 am »

Well I do think TWM is acting towny, but if Galz flips scum I'll be looking at TWM.

I won't flip scum. But you know that already.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #593 on: August 11, 2017, 02:48:02 am »

Anyone else feel like Galz and TWM are teamed?

Yes.

News at 11! Andrew and DatSwan match reads!
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #594 on: August 11, 2017, 03:06:16 am »

And scum!you has a history of premature fakeclaims.

This has been bothering me as well. Because you stated it as fact to a group of players that are relatively new (and even many of the non-new haven't played with me) - and it's categorically false. It's based on a single game where the timing and use of the claim single handily carried me throughout the game to a victory for my faction. It was perfectly placed, and perfectly executed. It worked, and we won.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #595 on: August 11, 2017, 03:23:35 am »

Still no answer...

Actually, I did answer. The first time. You just choose to ignore it. But fine, let me spell it out for you in more detail:

A) It's far easier to slip up when talking than when not.
B) f.ds doesn't usually actually lynch lurkers.
C) Playing quiet as newbie scum has been a tried and proven method

Would you like more?
Well, I disagree and would never advise a partner like that, but I guess it's not necessary for us to agree on this particular topic.
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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #596 on: August 11, 2017, 03:24:44 am »

And scum!you has a history of premature fakeclaims.

This has been bothering me as well. Because you stated it as fact to a group of players that are relatively new (and even many of the non-new haven't played with me) - and it's categorically false. It's based on a single game where the timing and use of the claim single handily carried me throughout the game to a victory for my faction. It was perfectly placed, and perfectly executed. It worked, and we won.
I'm not sure what the point of this is, or how it shows that M100 was different from now.
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« Reply #597 on: August 11, 2017, 03:27:03 am »

Still no answer...

Actually, I did answer. The first time. You just choose to ignore it. But fine, let me spell it out for you in more detail:

A) It's far easier to slip up when talking than when not.
B) f.ds doesn't usually actually lynch lurkers.
C) Playing quiet as newbie scum has been a tried and proven method

Would you like more?
Well, I disagree and would never advise a partner like that, but I guess it's not necessary for us to agree on this particular topic.

No, it's not. But I'm curious which of the 3 points you disagree with (not why you think it's good vs bad) - which is what you stated.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #598 on: August 11, 2017, 03:30:04 am »

And scum!you has a history of premature fakeclaims.

This has been bothering me as well. Because you stated it as fact to a group of players that are relatively new (and even many of the non-new haven't played with me) - and it's categorically false. It's based on a single game where the timing and use of the claim single handily carried me throughout the game to a victory for my faction. It was perfectly placed, and perfectly executed. It worked, and we won.
I'm not sure what the point of this is, or how it shows that M100 was different from now.

The point was more that you used an example erroneously to portray me in a scummy light - by giving a false representation of a claim made in a different game where I WAS scum and comparing it to here where I'm not.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M105: Time Management Mafia (D2)
« Reply #599 on: August 11, 2017, 03:32:37 am »

Still no answer...

Actually, I did answer. The first time. You just choose to ignore it. But fine, let me spell it out for you in more detail:

A) It's far easier to slip up when talking than when not.
B) f.ds doesn't usually actually lynch lurkers.
C) Playing quiet as newbie scum has been a tried and proven method

Would you like more?
Well, I disagree and would never advise a partner like that, but I guess it's not necessary for us to agree on this particular topic.

No, it's not. But I'm curious which of the 3 points you disagree with (not why you think it's good vs bad) - which is what you stated.

All, more or less.

A) I don't think slip ups are a thing that happens on a statistically significant level.
B) It's true that we lynch them less than we should, but especially on later days lurkers usually have a hard time unless other crazy stuff happens.
C) I think experience shows that active scum newbies do better than lurky ones.
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