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Japanese Tournament raised a few issues
ConMan:
--- Quote from: Awaclus on July 19, 2017, 06:02:58 am ---Intentional draws are prohibited in Magic now?
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My reading, from one result of a very quick Google search, is that while it is legitimate to declare a game a draw, it is not allowed to do so as part of an agreement with your opponent so that both of you can advance.
Awaclus:
--- Quote from: ConMan on July 19, 2017, 07:01:05 pm ---
--- Quote from: Awaclus on July 19, 2017, 06:02:58 am ---Intentional draws are prohibited in Magic now?
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My reading, from one result of a very quick Google search, is that while it is legitimate to declare a game a draw, it is not allowed to do so as part of an agreement with your opponent so that both of you can advance.
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I just checked the most recent tournament rules from Wizards' site and it doesn't say you're not allowed to ID to ensure that you advance, it just prohibits bribery.
Here's the relevant part for the record:
--- Quote ---If a game or match is not completed, players may concede or mutually agree to a draw in that game or match. A
match is considered complete once the result slip is filled out or, if match slips are not being used, a player leaves
the table after game play is finished. Until that point, either player may concede to or draw with the other, though
if the conceding player won a game in the match, the match must be reported as 2-1. Intentional draws are always
reported as 0-0-3.
Players may not agree to a concession or draw in exchange for any reward or incentive. Doing so will be
considered Bribery (see section 5.2).
If a player refuses to play, it is assumed that he or she has conceded the match.
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dedicateddan:
--- Quote from: Awaclus on July 19, 2017, 06:02:58 am ---Intentional draws are prohibited in Magic now?
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Intentional draws are allowed and very common in the last 1-2 rounds
GendoIkari:
--- Quote from: Awaclus on July 20, 2017, 04:12:24 am ---
--- Quote from: ConMan on July 19, 2017, 07:01:05 pm ---
--- Quote from: Awaclus on July 19, 2017, 06:02:58 am ---Intentional draws are prohibited in Magic now?
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My reading, from one result of a very quick Google search, is that while it is legitimate to declare a game a draw, it is not allowed to do so as part of an agreement with your opponent so that both of you can advance.
--- End quote ---
I just checked the most recent tournament rules from Wizards' site and it doesn't say you're not allowed to ID to ensure that you advance, it just prohibits bribery.
Here's the relevant part for the record:
--- Quote ---If a game or match is not completed, players may concede or mutually agree to a draw in that game or match. A
match is considered complete once the result slip is filled out or, if match slips are not being used, a player leaves
the table after game play is finished. Until that point, either player may concede to or draw with the other, though
if the conceding player won a game in the match, the match must be reported as 2-1. Intentional draws are always
reported as 0-0-3.
Players may not agree to a concession or draw in exchange for any reward or incentive. Doing so will be
considered Bribery (see section 5.2).
If a player refuses to play, it is assumed that he or she has conceded the match.
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A better rules quote to support your point:
--- Quote ---27. Intentional Draw - The DCI Universal Tournament Rules
Players may mutually agree to accept an intentional draw at any time before the match results are submitted. This agreement should not be regarded as a violation of section 41.(41: Cheating - e.g. Collusion to alter the results of a game or match)
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ConMan:
--- Quote from: GendoIkari on July 20, 2017, 10:32:56 am ---A better rules quote to support your point:
--- Quote ---27. Intentional Draw - The DCI Universal Tournament Rules
Players may mutually agree to accept an intentional draw at any time before the match results are submitted. This agreement should not be regarded as a violation of section 41.(41: Cheating - e.g. Collusion to alter the results of a game or match)
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Ah. I must have misinterpreted that section on Collusion then.
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